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moderated Re: How to use external hard drive

David & his pack of dogs
 

I go into this computer then usually hit ctr. Then, the end key. That takes
me to the bottom of the list where generally external devices are. Then as
mentioned after opening it, paste the contents from the other source into
the ext. drive. As with computers, there are many ways to do things, some
are complicated and some are easy. I watched a video on something pertaining
to computers and the way the person showed how to do it was very complicated
and round about. I figured out a quicker and much less complicated. In
other words, a straighter route rather then going around the bush to get
there.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: July 4, 2019 8:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to use external hard drive

Yes it would.
Think of the hard drive as a mammoth thumb drive.
PatAt 09:59 AM 7/4/2019, you wrote:
When I place a thumb drive into my computer I have to go to file
explorer and find that drive (drive d) ...... Would this be the same
route to find the external hard drive?

Laura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to use external hard drive

What I've done is to paste my files or folders from wherever they live
to the new external drive. When you open the drive there will probably
be nothing listed unless there is some software from the drive
manufacturer.
So move what you want and you will have copies of what you transferred.
Hope this helps.
Pat Byrne
P S The new drive will appear under the "c" and "d" drives and
whatever else is listed and will have the next available letter
designator.At 09:42 AM 7/4/2019, you wrote:
Hello,

I have a new external hard drive that I would like to put some
folders and files on. I've never used an external hard drive and
have no clue what to do to accomplish this once I've plugged it into my
computer.

I'm using Windows 10, Jaws 18 and Word 2016.

Could somebody please advise? .. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Laura







moderated Re: How to use external hard drive

Laura Richardson
 

Thank you so much ...... I'll give this a try this afternoon.

Laura

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 10:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to use external hard drive

Yes it would.
Think of the hard drive as a mammoth thumb drive.
PatAt 09:59 AM 7/4/2019, you wrote:
When I place a thumb drive into my computer I have to go to file
explorer and find that drive (drive d) ...... Would this be the same
route to find the external hard drive?

Laura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to use external hard drive

What I've done is to paste my files or folders from wherever they live
to the new external drive. When you open the drive there will probably
be nothing listed unless there is some software from the drive
manufacturer.
So move what you want and you will have copies of what you transferred.
Hope this helps.
Pat Byrne
P S The new drive will appear under the "c" and "d" drives and
whatever else is listed and will have the next available letter
designator.At 09:42 AM 7/4/2019, you wrote:
Hello,

I have a new external hard drive that I would like to put some
folders and files on. I've never used an external hard drive and
have no clue what to do to accomplish this once I've plugged it into my
computer.

I'm using Windows 10, Jaws 18 and Word 2016.

Could somebody please advise? .. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Laura







moderated Re: How to use external hard drive

Maria Campbell
 

That works as well.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/4/2019 10:59 AM, Laura Richardson wrote:
When I place a thumb drive into my computer I have to go to file explorer
and find that drive (drive d) ...... Would this be the same route to find
the external hard drive?

Laura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to use external hard drive

What I've done is to paste my files or folders from wherever they live to
the new external drive. When you open the drive there will probably be
nothing listed unless there is some software from the drive manufacturer.
So move what you want and you will have copies of what you transferred.
Hope this helps.
Pat Byrne
P S The new drive will appear under the "c" and "d" drives and whatever
else is listed and will have the next available letter designator.At 09:42
AM 7/4/2019, you wrote:
Hello,

I have a new external hard drive that I would like to put some folders
and files on. I've never used an external hard drive and have no clue
what to do to accomplish this once I've plugged it into my computer.

I'm using Windows 10, Jaws 18 and Word 2016.

Could somebody please advise? .. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Laura






moderated Re: How to use external hard drive

Pat Byrne
 

Yes it would.
Think of the hard drive as a mammoth thumb drive.
PatAt 09:59 AM 7/4/2019, you wrote:

When I place a thumb drive into my computer I have to go to file explorer
and find that drive (drive d) ...... Would this be the same route to find
the external hard drive?

Laura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to use external hard drive

What I've done is to paste my files or folders from wherever they live to
the new external drive. When you open the drive there will probably be
nothing listed unless there is some software from the drive manufacturer.
So move what you want and you will have copies of what you transferred.
Hope this helps.
Pat Byrne
P S The new drive will appear under the "c" and "d" drives and whatever
else is listed and will have the next available letter designator.At 09:42
AM 7/4/2019, you wrote:
Hello,

I have a new external hard drive that I would like to put some folders
and files on. I've never used an external hard drive and have no clue
what to do to accomplish this once I've plugged it into my computer.

I'm using Windows 10, Jaws 18 and Word 2016.

Could somebody please advise? .. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Laura







moderated Re: How to use external hard drive

Laura Richardson
 

When I place a thumb drive into my computer I have to go to file explorer
and find that drive (drive d) ...... Would this be the same route to find
the external hard drive?

Laura

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pat Byrne
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How to use external hard drive

What I've done is to paste my files or folders from wherever they live to
the new external drive. When you open the drive there will probably be
nothing listed unless there is some software from the drive manufacturer.
So move what you want and you will have copies of what you transferred.
Hope this helps.
Pat Byrne
P S The new drive will appear under the "c" and "d" drives and whatever
else is listed and will have the next available letter designator.At 09:42
AM 7/4/2019, you wrote:
Hello,

I have a new external hard drive that I would like to put some folders
and files on. I've never used an external hard drive and have no clue
what to do to accomplish this once I've plugged it into my computer.

I'm using Windows 10, Jaws 18 and Word 2016.

Could somebody please advise? .. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Laura


moderated Re: How to use external hard drive

Pat Byrne
 

What I've done is to paste my files or folders from wherever they live to the new external drive. When you open the drive there will probably be nothing listed unless there is some software from the drive manufacturer. So move what you want and you will have copies of what you transferred.
Hope this helps.
Pat Byrne
P S The new drive will appear under the "c" and "d" drives and whatever else is listed and will have the next available letter designator.At 09:42 AM 7/4/2019, you wrote:

Hello,

I have a new external hard drive that I would like to put some folders and files on. I’ve never used an external hard drive and have no clue what to do to accomplish this once I’ve plugged it into my computer.

I’m using Windows 10, Jaws 18 and Word 2016.

Could somebody please advise? …… Any help is greatly appreciated.

Laura


moderated Re: How to use external hard drive

Maria Campbell
 

Find your drive within the this pc icon.  Then you can copy, or send files directly from pc to drive via the send-to application.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

On 7/4/2019 10:42 AM, Laura Richardson wrote:

Hello,

 

I have a new external hard drive that I would like to put some folders and files on.  I’ve never used an external hard drive and have no clue what to do to accomplish this once I’ve plugged it into my computer.

 

I’m using Windows 10, Jaws 18 and Word 2016.

 

Could somebody please advise? …… Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Laura

 


moderated JAWS compatibility with Microsoft server 2019

Rick Mladek
 

Hi all,

 

Happy 4th...

 

I have a NAS device within my network. I am needing to update the Operating System and within the present, MS Server 2003, this is not able to be used with Jaws. Using JAWS Pro, is it possible to administrate a storage server using the latest, Microsoft Server 2019 or anything regarding Microsoft Storage Server 3.0?

 

All help and comments greatly appreciated,

 

Rick

 


moderated How to use external hard drive

Laura Richardson
 

Hello,

 

I have a new external hard drive that I would like to put some folders and files on.  I’ve never used an external hard drive and have no clue what to do to accomplish this once I’ve plugged it into my computer.

 

I’m using Windows 10, Jaws 18 and Word 2016.

 

Could somebody please advise? …… Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Laura

 


moderated work around for anyone having trouble with windows mail closing

marvin kotler
 

Good morning listers; happy fourth.  If anyone is having trouble with jaws closing windows mail, a work around until the next jaws update is to stick with windows ten 1809; I was told this by tech support.

Marv

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: IE 11 browser problem

Gerald Levy
 


Chrome will not work with JAWS 15.?? The earliest version of JAWS that works with Chrome is JAWS 18.?? Same for the latest version of Firefox.?? It will not work with JAWS 15, either.?? I think the latest version of Firefox that works with JAWS 15 is Firefox 52 ESR, which is obsolete, although Webvisum still works with it.?? Therefore, in order to use the latest versions of Chrome and Firefox with JAWS, the best solution would be to purchase a one year license for JAWS 2019 for $90, or else switch to NVDA.?? Chrome is probably the best browser to use in most situations, although some web sites may still be more accessible with IE.?? Many users now avoid Firefox altogether, because it no longer allows third party extensions, and has become a bloated, screwed-up mess that is slow and prone to crashes and freezes.


Gerald


??

On 7/4/2019 12:16 AM, Jacob wrote:
There's no newer version of IE. So even if your Firefox or Chrome is older then use them if it works.

OZ0TE Jacob

On 2019-07-04 02:25 Jerry hathaway wrote:
I am using Jaws 15 on windows 7 and IE 11. Lately when I go to some websites I get a message that my browser is invalid and they want me to choose a updated browser. I want to know if there is a fix so I can still use IE 11 or a higher upgrade to IE. I have Chrome and Firefox on my computer but they may be older versions of their programs. Any solutions to this issue will be appreciated.
??
Jerry
??


moderated Re: JAWS and NVDA

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

you might want to look for the e-mail address of Jim Fettgather on this. he is a technologist at Alphapointe, and he knows more about that. I’ll help you out with the e-mail he most often uses, though. jimfettgather@gmial.com

On Jul 1, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Anna Givens <annajee82@gmail.com> wrote:

Good evening,

I’m wondering if someone could tell me about the differences between JAWS and NVDA. I know NVDA is free and JAWS is not. I’m wondering why people choose JAWS, and what NVDA is good for. Commonalities, differences, preferences, etc.

Thanks so much,
Anna E


moderated Re: IE 11 brouser problem

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

i’m not sure about the issue. I would call Visparo and tell them about it.


On Jul 3, 2019, at 11:03 PM, Jerry hathaway <jerry.hathaway2@...> wrote:

I am using Jaws 15 on windows 7 and IE 11. Lately when I go to some websites I get a message that my browser is invalid and they want me to choose a updated browser. I want to know if there is a fix so I can still use IE 11 or a higher upgrade to IE. I have Chrome and Firefox on my computer but they may be older versions of their programs. Any solutions to this issue will be appreciated.
 
Jerry
 


moderated Re: IE 11 browser problem

Jacob
 

There's no newer version of IE. So even if your Firefox or Chrome is older then use them if it works.

OZ0TE Jacob

On 2019-07-04 02:25 Jerry hathaway wrote:
I am using Jaws 15 on windows 7 and IE 11. Lately when I go to some websites I get a message that my browser is invalid and they want me to choose a updated browser. I want to know if there is a fix so I can still use IE 11 or a higher upgrade to IE. I have Chrome and Firefox on my computer but they may be older versions of their programs. Any solutions to this issue will be appreciated.
 
Jerry
 


moderated IE 11 brouser problem

Jerry hathaway
 

I am using Jaws 15 on windows 7 and IE 11. Lately when I go to some websites I get a message that my browser is invalid and they want me to choose a updated browser. I want to know if there is a fix so I can still use IE 11 or a higher upgrade to IE. I have Chrome and Firefox on my computer but they may be older versions of their programs. Any solutions to this issue will be appreciated.
 
Jerry
 


moderated Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

Hi, if this doesn’t work you can also try running Josh 17 or 16 I found that a lot of times they’ll still work on their windows 10 with the older programs were the newer jaws versions don’t see anything.

Randy Barnett owner of soundtique

On Jul 2, 2019, at 12:33 AM, l. radical <ksteo2009@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello dear listers. For a long time i use a programm in order to
trader in a exchange platform. The programm run under windows 7 who
was the operating system using the jaws 15 version. Before few days
ago i upgrade to windows 10 32 bit using the jaws 2019 version. How
ever when i load the same programm in the new operating system the
jaws does not read any content in the screen using the jaws cursor. I
am able to read only the top and the bottom of the window. Any
recomentation for a solution is wellcome and thanks for any
assistance.
regards,
--Kostas--


moderated Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

Mike B.
 


Hi All,
 
This feature has only been in Jaws since Jaws 2018.  Not to create an argument, but only to save people using Jaws versions older than J2018 time or the hassle of searching for this feature in J18, J17... 
 
Steps for creating a toggle keystroke for this feature are below.
To make a keystroke to toggle the, Use Accessibility Driver for Screen Capture, setting on and off try the following:
1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the list of Jaws managers, navigate to Keyboard Manager and press enter.
2. Press the letter, D, until Jaws reports, Default.
3. Tab 1 time into the list of default keystrokes and find the, Toggle Screen Capture Method none, entry.
4. Press, Alt + A, to open the Action menu, you are on, Add Keystroke..., so press enter.  The hotkey to go directly to the, add Keystroke, option is,
Control + A,.
5. You are in a edit field so enter the keystroke you would like to assign to toggle this feature on and off.  Only type the keystroke, example:  Alt,
Control + K.  Hold down the Alt & Control keys and press the letter, K, and don't type anything else but the keystroke you want to use.
6. Tab 1 time and there's a checkbox to assign this keystroke to desktop keystrokes only, that's up to you, but it's checked by default.  Tab to, Okay
and press the spacebar, you'll get a dialogue asking if you're sure that you want to modify the,, Default.JKM, press the spacebar on, Yes, and you're done. 
Now check the keystroke to make sure it works.  You should hear, Using Accessibility Driver On or, Using Accessibility Driver Off, when invoking your keystroke.
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

This functionality has been there for several versions of Jaws. Vispero is not making a big deal of this because for most users Jaws currently works equally well with or without the accessibility display driver. I pushed quite hard for a layered shortcut key, but instead they made it optional for a shortcut to be created in keyboard manager. The script is called ToggleScreenCapture and of course you need to have the default keyboard manager loaded..

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 1:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

 

David, have you suggested this to Vispero directly or in the JAWS users list where Eric Damery lurks?

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
 
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
 

On 7/3/2019 3:39 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

It would be helpful if FS could assign a script to this function, along with an associated keyboard shortcut. By default they could have it unassigned to prevent a user from accidentally disabling the display driver. However, this would give users who need to disable and enable the driver the option of going into Keyboard Manager and assigning a key of their choosing as a toggle.

 

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 7/3/2019 1:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Costas,
 
Well, I'm glad it was such an easy solution and this worked for you.
It's not always so easy, I switch back and forth many times a day between using the accessibility display driver and not using it because even inside one application, my accounting software, some screens don't read at all when it is checked but do when it is not and vice versa.
.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 2:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.
 
 Dear Sieghard. I don't find words to thank you very much. Your solution works very fine. Thanks again for your breaf explanation.
regards,
--Kostas--
 
 
2019-07-02 21:07 GMT+03:00, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>:
As much as  you may not like this answer, there may not be a good 
solution for this.
The Jaws cursor under Windows 10 has not nearly as much access to 
information as it did under Windows 7 simply because of how Microsoft 
allows screenreaders to get access to what is on the screen. I use a 
couple of applications at my store for accounting and my point of sale 
where I have similar issues.
Vispero is working on this and you could try and see what happens if 
you turn off the accessibility display driver which is what Jaws has 
been using for a long time to get information. Do the following and 
then open your program and see if it helped:
 
1. Open Jaws Settings Center with Jaws Key + 6 on the number row 2. 
Make sure you have the default settings loaded by pressing Control + 
Shift + D 3. Type "acc" (the first 3 letters of accessibility) in the 
search box, then tab once and you should have the following two 
results:
Speak Access Keys Within Web Pages  checked, Reading
Use Accessibility
Driver for Screen Capture  checked, Miscellaneous  not checked 4. 
Press the spacebar on the second option, Use Accessibility Display 
Driver" to clear the checkbox 5. Tab twice to OK and activate it.
6. Make sure you remember or keep these steps because you may find 
that some applications work better with the old accessibility display 
driver checked and some may work better when it is unchecked.
And there is a bit of good news, Vispero is working on restoring more 
of the old Jaws cursor functionality with the new so-called GDI 
hooking method which is basically what Jaws uses to get information 
when the accessibility display driver is unchecked.
Lastly, you may want to try the touch cursor with your program and see 
if you get anything with that, you can activate it by pressing Shift + 
PC Cursor (Numpad +), press the PC cursor twice quickly to deactivate 
the touch cursor again. You can read more about it here:
Jaws Help > Help topics > Using Jaws > About cursors > Using the Touch 
cursor
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 12:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.
 
Hello dear listers. For a long time i use a programm in order to 
trader in a exchange platform. The programm run under windows 7 who 
was the operating system using the jaws 15 version. Before few days 
ago i upgrade to windows
10 32 bit using the jaws 2019 version. How ever when i load the same 
programm in the new operating system the jaws does not read any 
content in the screen using the jaws cursor. I am able to read only 
the top and the bottom of the window. Any recomentation for a solution 
is wellcome and thanks for any assistance.
regards,
--Kostas--
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


moderated Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

That is an extremely useful piece of information, not readily available, which might help me in these situations of no JAWS cursor. I just figured it was hopeless!

 

Dean

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 5:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

 

This functionality has been there for several versions of Jaws. Vispero is not making a big deal of this because for most users Jaws currently works equally well with or without the accessibility display driver. I pushed quite hard for a layered shortcut key, but instead they made it optional for a shortcut to be created in keyboard manager. The script is called ToggleScreenCapture and of course you need to have the default keyboard manager loaded..

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 1:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

 

David, have you suggested this to Vispero directly or in the JAWS users list where Eric Damery lurks?

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
 
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
 

On 7/3/2019 3:39 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

It would be helpful if FS could assign a script to this function, along with an associated keyboard shortcut. By default they could have it unassigned to prevent a user from accidentally disabling the display driver. However, this would give users who need to disable and enable the driver the option of going into Keyboard Manager and assigning a key of their choosing as a toggle.

 

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 7/3/2019 1:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Costas,
 
Well, I'm glad it was such an easy solution and this worked for you.
It's not always so easy, I switch back and forth many times a day between using the accessibility display driver and not using it because even inside one application, my accounting software, some screens don't read at all when it is checked but do when it is not and vice versa.
.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 2:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.
 
 Dear Sieghard. I don't find words to thank you very much. Your solution works very fine. Thanks again for your breaf explanation.
regards,
--Kostas--
 
 
2019-07-02 21:07 GMT+03:00, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>:
As much as  you may not like this answer, there may not be a good 
solution for this.
The Jaws cursor under Windows 10 has not nearly as much access to 
information as it did under Windows 7 simply because of how Microsoft 
allows screenreaders to get access to what is on the screen. I use a 
couple of applications at my store for accounting and my point of sale 
where I have similar issues.
Vispero is working on this and you could try and see what happens if 
you turn off the accessibility display driver which is what Jaws has 
been using for a long time to get information. Do the following and 
then open your program and see if it helped:
 
1. Open Jaws Settings Center with Jaws Key + 6 on the number row 2. 
Make sure you have the default settings loaded by pressing Control + 
Shift + D 3. Type "acc" (the first 3 letters of accessibility) in the 
search box, then tab once and you should have the following two 
results:
Speak Access Keys Within Web Pages  checked, Reading
Use Accessibility
Driver for Screen Capture  checked, Miscellaneous  not checked 4. 
Press the spacebar on the second option, Use Accessibility Display 
Driver" to clear the checkbox 5. Tab twice to OK and activate it.
6. Make sure you remember or keep these steps because you may find 
that some applications work better with the old accessibility display 
driver checked and some may work better when it is unchecked.
And there is a bit of good news, Vispero is working on restoring more 
of the old Jaws cursor functionality with the new so-called GDI 
hooking method which is basically what Jaws uses to get information 
when the accessibility display driver is unchecked.
Lastly, you may want to try the touch cursor with your program and see 
if you get anything with that, you can activate it by pressing Shift + 
PC Cursor (Numpad +), press the PC cursor twice quickly to deactivate 
the touch cursor again. You can read more about it here:
Jaws Help > Help topics > Using Jaws > About cursors > Using the Touch 
cursor
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 12:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.
 
Hello dear listers. For a long time i use a programm in order to 
trader in a exchange platform. The programm run under windows 7 who 
was the operating system using the jaws 15 version. Before few days 
ago i upgrade to windows
10 32 bit using the jaws 2019 version. How ever when i load the same 
programm in the new operating system the jaws does not read any 
content in the screen using the jaws cursor. I am able to read only 
the top and the bottom of the window. Any recomentation for a solution 
is wellcome and thanks for any assistance.
regards,
--Kostas--
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


moderated Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Yes, the accessibility driver is the one.
If you don't want to run a repair then maybe a Jaws reinstall is in order or a call to FS tech support so they can take a look why this may not be there for you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

i understand what you said. but its not there.
just above the use virtual cursor.
you mentioned the video driver in the apps and features for the video driver and i wasn't sure where this was.
i don't know if i have the driver installed or not for windows 10.
in windows 7 there is one called freedom scientific video intercept driver.
but in windows 10 this is not there. but there is one called freedom scientific video accessibility driver. is this the same thing?
maybe the driver has been missing for the last year i have been useing jaws?
original message
Did you by any chance uninstall the video display driver under Apps and Features? I assume maybe then you may not have this setting since there is no accessibility driver which can be toggled on or off.


moderated Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

This functionality has been there for several versions of Jaws. Vispero is not making a big deal of this because for most users Jaws currently works equally well with or without the accessibility display driver. I pushed quite hard for a layered shortcut key, but instead they made it optional for a shortcut to be created in keyboard manager. The script is called ToggleScreenCapture and of course you need to have the default keyboard manager loaded..

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 1:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

 

David, have you suggested this to Vispero directly or in the JAWS users list where Eric Damery lurks?

 

Maria Campbell
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All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
 

On 7/3/2019 3:39 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

It would be helpful if FS could assign a script to this function, along with an associated keyboard shortcut. By default they could have it unassigned to prevent a user from accidentally disabling the display driver. However, this would give users who need to disable and enable the driver the option of going into Keyboard Manager and assigning a key of their choosing as a toggle.

 

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 7/3/2019 1:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Costas,
 
Well, I'm glad it was such an easy solution and this worked for you.
It's not always so easy, I switch back and forth many times a day between using the accessibility display driver and not using it because even inside one application, my accounting software, some screens don't read at all when it is checked but do when it is not and vice versa.
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 2:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.
 
 Dear Sieghard. I don't find words to thank you very much. Your solution works very fine. Thanks again for your breaf explanation.
regards,
--Kostas--
 
 
2019-07-02 21:07 GMT+03:00, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>:
As much as  you may not like this answer, there may not be a good 
solution for this.
The Jaws cursor under Windows 10 has not nearly as much access to 
information as it did under Windows 7 simply because of how Microsoft 
allows screenreaders to get access to what is on the screen. I use a 
couple of applications at my store for accounting and my point of sale 
where I have similar issues.
Vispero is working on this and you could try and see what happens if 
you turn off the accessibility display driver which is what Jaws has 
been using for a long time to get information. Do the following and 
then open your program and see if it helped:
 
1. Open Jaws Settings Center with Jaws Key + 6 on the number row 2. 
Make sure you have the default settings loaded by pressing Control + 
Shift + D 3. Type "acc" (the first 3 letters of accessibility) in the 
search box, then tab once and you should have the following two 
results:
Speak Access Keys Within Web Pages  checked, Reading
Use Accessibility
Driver for Screen Capture  checked, Miscellaneous  not checked 4. 
Press the spacebar on the second option, Use Accessibility Display 
Driver" to clear the checkbox 5. Tab twice to OK and activate it.
6. Make sure you remember or keep these steps because you may find 
that some applications work better with the old accessibility display 
driver checked and some may work better when it is unchecked.
And there is a bit of good news, Vispero is working on restoring more 
of the old Jaws cursor functionality with the new so-called GDI 
hooking method which is basically what Jaws uses to get information 
when the accessibility display driver is unchecked.
Lastly, you may want to try the touch cursor with your program and see 
if you get anything with that, you can activate it by pressing Shift + 
PC Cursor (Numpad +), press the PC cursor twice quickly to deactivate 
the touch cursor again. You can read more about it here:
Jaws Help > Help topics > Using Jaws > About cursors > Using the Touch 
cursor
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 12:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.
 
Hello dear listers. For a long time i use a programm in order to 
trader in a exchange platform. The programm run under windows 7 who 
was the operating system using the jaws 15 version. Before few days 
ago i upgrade to windows
10 32 bit using the jaws 2019 version. How ever when i load the same 
programm in the new operating system the jaws does not read any 
content in the screen using the jaws cursor. I am able to read only 
the top and the bottom of the window. Any recomentation for a solution 
is wellcome and thanks for any assistance.
regards,
--Kostas--