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moderated Re: How can I get information about a graphic on a webpage?

 

Exactly, if a graphic contains text only Jaws Convenient OCR may work, but if the graphic is a picture you may get much more information with Picture Smart.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 12:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How can I get information about a graphic on a webpage?

No, you can use picture smart. It's just that it'll depend entirely on what you're trying to use it on. It's very hit or miss.
The layered command is insert+spacebar then P then C.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 12:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How can I get information about a graphic on a webpage?

i think you have to use the jaws ocr on web pages not picture smart.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shankar C
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How can I get information about a graphic on a webpage?

as for as my concern, if its just a image/graphic, you may use the picture smart to read the information provided in the graphics.
but, if the graphic contains the link, you may expand and perform the picture smart.


On 7/1/19, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:
Hi!



I am using JAWS 2019, Windows 7 and Firefox. Suppose I have the
virtual cursor on a graphic on a webpage. Is there some JAWS
keystroke I can press that will tell me some basic information about
the graphic, such as its dimensions?



Thanks,

Richard





--
----------"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point."
----------
email: harshalgips@...
msn: harshalgips@...
skype: shankar.a
mobile:+919945860671
thanks and regards
shankar


moderated Re: picture smart has never worked.

 

Does the same scanner work with Jaws Convenient OCr?
I currently only have two Fujitsu Scansnap scanners at my business and they don't support TWAIN so I don't think I can use them with Openbook or Jaws Convenient OCR, but I am pretty sure you first have to somehow set up or select your scanner for it to work with Jaws Convenient OCR or Picture Smart.
Also, here is some information about Picture Smart in case others have problems with it:

To use Picture Smart, the "submit annonymous usage data" option must be enabled in Settings Center. This sends encrypted information to Freedom Scientific. The images from Picture Smart are then submitted to the various services (such as Microsoft and Google) which analyze the images and returns the descriptions back to us. These descriptions are then displayed in the Results Viewer. If you attempt to use Picture Smart and this setting is off, a message displays prompting you to turn it on.
Note: Picture Smart is currently only available while in the English Language UI of JAWS and Fusion as the services that perform the image analysis do not currently support international languages for descriptions of images. For users of localized versions of JAWS running in versions of Windows other than English, you must switch the JAWS UI language to English to try out this feature. We plan to make Picture Smart available in more languages in the future as these services continue to expand to include additional languages.

If you actually have physical photos I guess you can always scan and save a picture as a PDF or JPG file and then use Picture Smart to recognize the image file.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: picture smart has never worked.

it fails when i try to use the del all in one scanner to detect pictures.
it works on picture files.
all it does is say it failed to detect text. but the scanner doesn't even move.
the same scanner works with openbook and the windows paint program.


-----Original Message-----
From: Munawar Bijani
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: picture smart has never worked.

What error message do you get?
On 7/1/2019 1:42 PM, netbat66 wrote:
in my case the picture smart fails every time i tried to use it. not
very smart.
i gave up trying to figure out how to get it to work.

-----Original Message----- From: Shankar C
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How can I get information about a graphic on a webpage?

as for as my concern, if its just a image/graphic, you may use the
picture smart to read the information provided in the graphics.
but, if the graphic contains the link, you may expand and perform the
picture smart.


On 7/1/19, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:
Hi!



I am using JAWS 2019, Windows 7 and Firefox. Suppose I have the
virtual cursor on a graphic on a webpage. Is there some JAWS
keystroke I can press that will tell me some basic information about
the graphic, such as its dimensions?



Thanks,

Richard





moderated Re: picture smart has never worked.

Munawar Bijani <munawarb@...>
 

Hi,

I wouldn't depend on JAWS to properly be able to control your scanner if I were you since it's not specifically made for such things. Sure the option is there but I'd wager it doesn't work nearly as well as a specialized program. Just scan it using a program that's really meant to scan stuff and you can then run Picture Smart on the file by activating the context menu on it in File Explorer.

On 7/1/2019 3:32 PM, netbat66 wrote:
it fails when i try to use the del all in one scanner to detect pictures.
it works on picture files.
all it does is say it failed to detect text. but the scanner doesn't even move. the same scanner works with openbook and the windows paint program.


-----Original Message----- From: Munawar Bijani
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: picture smart has never worked.

What error message do you get?
On 7/1/2019 1:42 PM, netbat66 wrote:
in my case the picture smart fails every time i tried to use it. not very smart.
i gave up trying to figure out how to get it to work.

-----Original Message----- From: Shankar C
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How can I get information about a graphic on a webpage?

as for as my concern, if its just a image/graphic, you may use the
picture smart to read the information provided in the graphics.
but, if the graphic contains the link, you may expand and perform the
picture smart.


On 7/1/19, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:
Hi!



I am using JAWS 2019, Windows 7 and Firefox.  Suppose I have the virtual
cursor on a graphic on a webpage.  Is there some JAWS keystroke I can press
that will tell me some basic information about the graphic, such as its
dimensions?



Thanks,

Richard








moderated Re: How can I get information about a graphic on a webpage?

Cristóbal
 

No, you can use picture smart. It's just that it'll depend entirely on what you're trying to use it on. It's very hit or miss.
The layered command is insert+spacebar then P then C.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 12:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How can I get information about a graphic on a webpage?

i think you have to use the jaws ocr on web pages not picture smart.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shankar C
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How can I get information about a graphic on a webpage?

as for as my concern, if its just a image/graphic, you may use the picture smart to read the information provided in the graphics.
but, if the graphic contains the link, you may expand and perform the picture smart.


On 7/1/19, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:
Hi!



I am using JAWS 2019, Windows 7 and Firefox. Suppose I have the
virtual cursor on a graphic on a webpage. Is there some JAWS
keystroke I can press that will tell me some basic information about
the graphic, such as its dimensions?



Thanks,

Richard





--
----------"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point."
----------
email: harshalgips@...
msn: harshalgips@...
skype: shankar.a
mobile:+919945860671
thanks and regards
shankar


moderated Re: How can I get information about a graphic on a webpage?

netbat66
 

i think you have to use the jaws ocr on web pages not picture smart.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shankar C
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How can I get information about a graphic on a webpage?

as for as my concern, if its just a image/graphic, you may use the
picture smart to read the information provided in the graphics.
but, if the graphic contains the link, you may expand and perform the
picture smart.


On 7/1/19, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:
Hi!



I am using JAWS 2019, Windows 7 and Firefox. Suppose I have the virtual
cursor on a graphic on a webpage. Is there some JAWS keystroke I can press
that will tell me some basic information about the graphic, such as its
dimensions?



Thanks,

Richard





--
----------"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point."
----------
email: harshalgips@...
msn: harshalgips@...
skype: shankar.a
mobile:+919945860671
thanks and regards
shankar


moderated Re: picture smart has never worked.

netbat66
 

it fails when i try to use the del all in one scanner to detect pictures.
it works on picture files.
all it does is say it failed to detect text. but the scanner doesn't even move. the same scanner works with openbook and the windows paint program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Munawar Bijani
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: picture smart has never worked.

What error message do you get?
On 7/1/2019 1:42 PM, netbat66 wrote:
in my case the picture smart fails every time i tried to use it. not very smart.
i gave up trying to figure out how to get it to work.

-----Original Message----- From: Shankar C
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How can I get information about a graphic on a webpage?

as for as my concern, if its just a image/graphic, you may use the
picture smart to read the information provided in the graphics.
but, if the graphic contains the link, you may expand and perform the
picture smart.


On 7/1/19, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:
Hi!



I am using JAWS 2019, Windows 7 and Firefox. Suppose I have the virtual
cursor on a graphic on a webpage. Is there some JAWS keystroke I can press
that will tell me some basic information about the graphic, such as its
dimensions?



Thanks,

Richard





moderated Re: Posting a comment to FB

The Iowa Gal <iowagal728@...>
 

Oh Dean, thank you so much, that worked. Looking forward to the book! Feeling sheepish in Iowa, Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 1:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Posting a comment to FB

 

Try just hitting Enter after writing the comment. That may post it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Posting a comment to FB

 

Hi group,

 

Using current Jaws with Firefox, Brave and I.E. I received a message saying I was mentioned in a comment. I use the link to go to FB but after I write my comment, I am unable to find a button to post. I see buttons for inserting an emoji, attaching a photo, posting a GIF or sticker only. I couldn’t even find the string on the mobile site. What am I missing here? Looking forward to someone ending my struggle…

 

Thanks,

Norma


moderated Re: Posting a comment to FB

JM Casey
 

It used to, but I (and I hope) other complained about this because we like to leave long comments with paragraph/line breaks in them, and the advertised shift-enter or something that was supposed to leave a line break in a comment never worked.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: July 1, 2019 2:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Posting a comment to FB

 

Try just hitting Enter after writing the comment. That may post it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Posting a comment to FB

 

Hi group,

 

Using current Jaws with Firefox, Brave and I.E. I received a message saying I was mentioned in a comment. I use the link to go to FB but after I write my comment, I am unable to find a button to post. I see buttons for inserting an emoji, attaching a photo, posting a GIF or sticker only. I couldn’t even find the string on the mobile site. What am I missing here? Looking forward to someone ending my struggle…

 

Thanks,

Norma


moderated Re: Posting a comment to FB

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Try just hitting Enter after writing the comment. That may post it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Posting a comment to FB

 

Hi group,

 

Using current Jaws with Firefox, Brave and I.E. I received a message saying I was mentioned in a comment. I use the link to go to FB but after I write my comment, I am unable to find a button to post. I see buttons for inserting an emoji, attaching a photo, posting a GIF or sticker only. I couldn’t even find the string on the mobile site. What am I missing here? Looking forward to someone ending my struggle…

 

Thanks,

Norma


moderated Re: Posting a comment to FB

JM Casey
 

Hi.

Not sure, the post  button is right there for me, though it’s labelled “comment button”. Perhaps facebook is temporarily broken for you. They have a number of servers and they’re not all always fully functional at the same time. If you tab once from the field you type into m.facebook.com though to leave a comment, you should normally find that button immediately using firefox.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: July 1, 2019 2:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Posting a comment to FB

 

Hi group,

 

Using current Jaws with Firefox, Brave and I.E. I received a message saying I was mentioned in a comment. I use the link to go to FB but after I write my comment, I am unable to find a button to post. I see buttons for inserting an emoji, attaching a photo, posting a GIF or sticker only. I couldn’t even find the string on the mobile site. What am I missing here? Looking forward to someone ending my struggle…

 

Thanks,

Norma


moderated Posting a comment to FB

The Iowa Gal <iowagal728@...>
 

Hi group,

 

Using current Jaws with Firefox, Brave and I.E. I received a message saying I was mentioned in a comment. I use the link to go to FB but after I write my comment, I am unable to find a button to post. I see buttons for inserting an emoji, attaching a photo, posting a GIF or sticker only. I couldn’t even find the string on the mobile site. What am I missing here? Looking forward to someone ending my struggle…

 

Thanks,

Norma


moderated Re: picture smart has never worked.

Munawar Bijani <munawarb@...>
 

What error message do you get?

On 7/1/2019 1:42 PM, netbat66 wrote:
in my case the picture smart fails every time i tried to use it. not very smart.
i gave up trying to figure out how to get it to work.

-----Original Message----- From: Shankar C
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How can I get information about a graphic on a webpage?

as for as my concern, if its just a image/graphic, you may use the
picture smart to read the information provided in the graphics.
but, if the graphic contains the link, you may expand and perform the
picture smart.


On 7/1/19, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:
Hi!



I am using JAWS 2019, Windows 7 and Firefox.  Suppose I have the virtual
cursor on a graphic on a webpage.  Is there some JAWS keystroke I can press
that will tell me some basic information about the graphic, such as its
dimensions?



Thanks,

Richard





moderated picture smart has never worked.

netbat66
 

in my case the picture smart fails every time i tried to use it. not very smart.
i gave up trying to figure out how to get it to work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shankar C
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2019 10:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How can I get information about a graphic on a webpage?

as for as my concern, if its just a image/graphic, you may use the
picture smart to read the information provided in the graphics.
but, if the graphic contains the link, you may expand and perform the
picture smart.


On 7/1/19, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:
Hi!



I am using JAWS 2019, Windows 7 and Firefox. Suppose I have the virtual
cursor on a graphic on a webpage. Is there some JAWS keystroke I can press
that will tell me some basic information about the graphic, such as its
dimensions?



Thanks,

Richard





--
----------"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point."
----------
email: harshalgips@...
msn: harshalgips@...
skype: shankar.a
mobile:+919945860671
thanks and regards
shankar


moderated Re: How can I get information about a graphic on a webpage?

Shankar C
 

as for as my concern, if its just a image/graphic, you may use the
picture smart to read the information provided in the graphics.
but, if the graphic contains the link, you may expand and perform the
picture smart.

On 7/1/19, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:
Hi!



I am using JAWS 2019, Windows 7 and Firefox. Suppose I have the virtual
cursor on a graphic on a webpage. Is there some JAWS keystroke I can press
that will tell me some basic information about the graphic, such as its
dimensions?



Thanks,

Richard




--
----------"Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point."
----------
email: harshalgips@...
msn: harshalgips@...
skype: shankar.a
mobile:+919945860671
thanks and regards
shankar


moderated How can I get information about a graphic on a webpage?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019, Windows 7 and Firefox.  Suppose I have the virtual cursor on a graphic on a webpage.  Is there some JAWS keystroke I can press that will tell me some basic information about the graphic, such as its dimensions?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated List Rules - Mon, 07/01/2019 #cal-notice

main@jfw.groups.io Calendar <noreply@...>
 

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moderated Re: Code For Accessibility Features

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi Annabelle.  If you create a native win32 or console application with c++, No special accessibility code is needed as screen readers in general are able to interpret native windows applications quite well.  There are, however accessible enhancing libraries you could use to enhance your program's accessibility if you so wish.  Tolk is a good example.  Search for it's github page on Google for more info. Cheers!

On 6/30/2019 7:46 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:
Hi, it's Annabelle.
I'm beginning to create a project in C++ with Codeblocks, and I wonder, are there specific C++ codes for creating accessibility features in a program? Also, does anybody know if there are C++ codes for creating things like buttons, checkboxes, combo boxes, hotkeys, header bars (which I think might be the same as title bars), list boxes, list views, password edits, radio buttons, sliders, text areas, text boxes, tree views, and the like? If so, where would I find them?
-- 
Pictures paint a thousand words;
Melodies paint a thousand dreams;
Music paints a thousand worlds;
Movies light up fantasy screens.


moderated Re: Code For Accessibility Features

Munawar Bijani <munawarb@...>
 

Hi,
You can check the QT framework. I've used it in python for GUIs and in V++ for console applications. The GUI framework that definitely does render accessible content is WS. QT, although the most popular, was a hit or miss for me.

On Jun 29, 2019, at 7:54 PM, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:

That's cool with me. I wasn't sure where to send it, so I thought some of you might know something about what I asked.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 4:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Code For Accessibility Features

Hi,
I’m going to forward this question to a more appropriate list that deals with programming.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 4:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Code For Accessibility Features

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

I'm beginning to create a project in C++ with Codeblocks, and I wonder, are there specific C++ codes for creating accessibility features in a program? Also, does anybody know if there are C++ codes for creating things like buttons, checkboxes, combo boxes, hotkeys, header bars (which I think might be the same as title bars), list boxes, list views, password edits, radio buttons, sliders, text areas, text boxes, tree views, and the like? If so, where would I find them?


moderated Re: Code For Accessibility Features

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

That's cool with me. I wasn't sure where to send it, so I thought some of you might know something about what I asked.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 4:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Code For Accessibility Features

Hi,
I’m going to forward this question to a more appropriate list that deals with programming.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 4:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Code For Accessibility Features

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

I'm beginning to create a project in C++ with Codeblocks, and I wonder, are there specific C++ codes for creating accessibility features in a program? Also, does anybody know if there are C++ codes for creating things like buttons, checkboxes, combo boxes, hotkeys, header bars (which I think might be the same as title bars), list boxes, list views, password edits, radio buttons, sliders, text areas, text boxes, tree views, and the like? If so, where would I find them?


moderated Re: Code For Accessibility Features

 

Hi,
I’m going to forward this question to a more appropriate list that deals with programming.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 4:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Code For Accessibility Features

 

Hi, it's Annabelle.

I'm beginning to create a project in C++ with Codeblocks, and I wonder, are there specific C++ codes for creating accessibility features in a program? Also, does anybody know if there are C++ codes for creating things like buttons, checkboxes, combo boxes, hotkeys, header bars (which I think might be the same as title bars), list boxes, list views, password edits, radio buttons, sliders, text areas, text boxes, tree views, and the like? If so, where would I find them?