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moderated Re: Excel rows and columns

Gudrun Brunot
 

Hi gang: As often is the case for me since I filter my list messages, I may be late in the game to offer my suggestion, but here it is based on a spreadsheet I made up for bank info where I wanted to be able to update the spreadsheet as I was getting the info over the phone.

I had 15 columns, a-o. I figure that, to start with, it will take me a long time to fill up 100 rows, so that is what I decided I needed.

Place cursor on first column title. Alt to upper ribbon. Right arrow to Formulas. tab to Define name split btn. Enter. Enter again, type exactly minus the brackets: [TitleRegion1..o100 which means I estimate that O will be the last column needed, and row 100 the last row needed for this spreadsheet.
So, if you add another column after the 15th column plus another 50 rows, just change what you type: [TitleRegion1..p150 which means I estimate that P will be the last column needed, and row 150 the last row needed for this spreadsheet.

Now, Jaws will read the column titles correctly as you tab from row to row.

Hope this helps.
Gudrun

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2019 8:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel rows and columns

First I have to get it to work in the first place. For some reason I can’t get automatic readings of row and column headings to work using this method at all.

I already have a template of this workbook set up and I usually just open it each time a new month starts and then use F12 to save it but giving it the name of the month.

For example, my template is Sales Summary and I then save it, for example, as Sales Summary June 2019.

I wouldn’t mind setting up the row and column title reading on each sheet separately if I could just get it to work.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 7:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel rows and columns



Hi Sieghard,



I’m not able to set this up by defining a name on a worksheet and then copying that sheet multiple times. Even if I set the scope to the worksheet rather than the workbook, Jaws doesn’t read column or row headings on the next sheets.



What you want can be done easily manually by first creating copies of your first sheet 31 times, one sheet for each day of the month. Then, place your cursor in the cell of the first sheet where you want to define the name, press the applications key, up arrow to “Define name…” and press enter. Type “Title” if you wish both column and row headings to be read by Jaws and press enter. Now, move to sheet two and do the same, except this time type “Title2” as the name. Continue doing this on subsequent sheets, each time increasing the number after “Title”. Note that there is no space between “Title” and the number.



Not sure if this helps or if you wanted a more automatic method, but I can’t seem to do it any other way. I even tried grouping the sheets and then defining a name, but this doesn’t work.



Cheers,



Russell



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 12:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Excel rows and columns



Hi Brian,



I attached a little sample spreadsheet I made. I thought I followed your steps to set it up so Jaws will read the column and row titles, but I can’t get it to work, what am I doing wrong?



Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2019 8:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Excel rows and columns



Pardon my error, that last technique is the "when I only want it during this session" method with JAWS. This is how to set them in the spreadsheet itself such that JAWS will recognize their existence and announce them whenever you open a specific spreadsheet:

Assigning a Title Row (Column Titles) and/or Title Column (Row Titles) in Excel

You can assign column and row titles in Excel. These are nice because they always work with Excel and are saved to the workbook. There's no risk of losing a setting in your screen reader.

To add column and row title names:

a. Focus on the first cell in the row or column or at the first cell where the title row and title column intersect
b. Open the Name dialog:

i. Open the Formula ribbon (ALT-M)

ii. Activate the “Define Name” command (M)

iii. Within the drop-down list, activate “Define Name”

iv. The “New Name” dialog opens



Focus is placed in the name field. Within the name field, you can name the focused cell or selected range of cells. In this case, we’re naming the column or row title:

a. Name the cell using the following rules

i. Start the range name with the label that tells Excel you’re creating a title range

1. Title – This tells Excel the column and row that intersect at the active cell are a title row and column
2. ColumnTitle – This tells Excel the focused column contains the titles for the rows within the range
3. RowTitle – this tells Excel the focused row contains titles for the columns in the range

ii. Add a name for the range

1. Title_WidgetSales
2. ColumnTitle_WidgetSales
3. RowTitle_WidgetSales

iii. Optional - Add the last cell in the range preceded by two periods

1. Use this when you have multiple regions in a worksheet
2. Title_WidgetSales..J25
3. ColumTitle_WidgetSales..h32
4. RowTitle_WidgetSales..r12
5. Remember the cell address referenced is the last cell in the range for which you are creating titles

The next field in the dialog sets the scope for the name. this is a combo box. Use UP and DOWN ARROW to choose from between:

* Workbook - the title Is unique and can’t be used elsewhere in a workbook
* A Specific Worksheet - the name can be used elsewhere in a workbook

You can add a comment for the named cell or region, this is strictly for your personal reference and doesn’t affect the echo of the column or row title name

The last field references the cell name or range of selected cells you’re naming. You can leave this field alone.

Activate the OK button to save the name and close the dialog.

Save the workbook and the titles are permanently saved and will work on any computer.

If you have titles set to echo in JAWS, the titles will echo and you won’t lose the settings.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

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moderated Re: Jaws and Express Scribe

Gudrun Brunot
 

David: I use Express Scribe also, though I'm a translator rather than a
medical transcriptionist. I occasionally get videos to translate.

So, you open the file in Express scribe, and I believe you can either work
directly in that program or use ES for playback only and work in your
favorite word processor. Here is the keyboard reference guide--not too long.

Keyboard reference


F1 Display Help
F2 Play Slow Speed
F3 Play Fast Speed
F4 Stop
F7 Rewind
F8 Fast Forward
F9 Play
F10 Play Real Speed
F11 Play Slow Speed
Ctrl+Num7 Go to start
Ctrl+Num1 Go to End
Ctrl+Del Delete File
Ctrl+A Copy All (Notes Field)
Ctrl+B Set Bookmark
Ctrl+C Copy (Notes Field)
Ctrl+D Dispatch File
Ctrl+H Attach a file
Ctrl+L Load File
Ctrl+Shift+L Load and Delete File
Ctrl+M Show Express Scribe Mini Control
Ctrl+N Done
Ctrl+O Recover File
Ctrl+T Insert Audio Time
Ctrl+V Paste (Notes Field)
Ctrl+W Open Word Processor
Ctrl+X Cut from Notes Field
Alt+F4 Exit Express Scribe
NumPad 2 Select next recording
NumPad 8 Select previous recording
Default System-Wide Hot Keys
(can be changed using Settings / Control)
F2 Play Slow Speed
F3 Play Fast Speed
F4 Stop
F5 Open Express Scribe
F6 Minimize Express Scribe
F7 Rewind
F8 Fast Forward
F9 Play
F10 Play Real Speed
F11 Play Slow Speed
F12 Play Slow Pausing
See also:
Contents
Hot Key Control





Gudrun

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David F.
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws and Express Scribe

Hello,



I'm new here but joined expressly so that I might ask if anyone on this list
does transcription. It can be medical, legal, or other. If so, what
transcription software do you use? Do you use Express Scribe or another
software package?



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moderated Re: : Transitioning back from Mac to PC: Why not both environments?

John Covici
 

This is what I do, the Mac works very well with the iphone, and Safari
does work pretty well, as well as the Windows browsers, although there
are some sites which workon windows better and some sites which work
on Mac better. Its good to have choices, so if you have a Mac, I
would keep it and just add a Windows machine if you have things you
need to do there.

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 17:04:56 -0400,
Peter Donahue wrote:

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Good afternoon everyone,



We currently have a Windows desktop and my wife's work laptop along with another Windows laptop we use for specific purposes. In addition we have the iPhone and an iPad Air2. We expect to add another iPad which will be
the iPad Pro in the next month.



I'm seriously considering getting a Mac for my next desktop. As long as they're still running we'll keep our current Windows machines along with the Apple machines allowing us to take advantage of the strengths of both
environments. Why not hold onto the Mac and raise the needed funds to buy a new Windows desktop allowing you to use both types of desktop machines? We're doing that here.



Peter Donahue





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How do
you spend it?

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covici@...

moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

John Covici
 

Outlook is not built-in, you have to buy office 365 and outlook will
install automatically on your computer and it will keep updated, which
can have up and down sides.

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 14:22:58 -0400,
Kendra Schaber wrote:

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[2 <text/html; Windows-1252 (quoted-printable)>]
Hi Astrid and all! I'm not sure if Outlook is built in because the Oregon Commission for the Blind got it for me for college. I do know that it's accessible with JAWS because I use it for my school email during homework sessions and
emailed documents for classes.

Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Redwing731@...
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Kschaber@...
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
SE.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Hi Kendra,
Thanks so much. Is Outlook built in with Windows 10 or do you have to have Office for that? I don’t do a lot of word processing or spreadsheets. Most often I use my computer for blogging, E-mail and other online stuff.

Astrid
http://bloggingastrid.com/
http://astridetal.wordpress.com/

Op 21 jun. 2019 om 19:46 heeft Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Astrid and all! I have a Dell laptop computer with JAWS, NVDA and Windows 10. I also have an Iphone. I also have Dropbox and Google Drive. Google Drive and Dropbox both sync up to both my computer and my Iphone. It's awesome!!!
I'm a college student and I wouldn't survive college without that ability. I also have Outlook which is a a new vversion of the old Outlook Express for your email. I on't know if Windows Mail is accessible because I don't don't use
it. If I use Firefox the most on my computer. I use Microsoft Word and Google Dox for word prossessors. I use JAWS 2018 because I don’t care for JAWS 2019, thanks to bugs. NVDA has improved a lot and competes with JAWS. Even with
JAWS, it’s still worth having NVDA as well so you can either swap between them as needed or as a back up for whenever JAWS refuses to behave. NVDA is still free but you pay for any add one. Both screen readers work with Windows 10
and the apps I mentioned. I don’t recamend Microsoft Edge because it’s not currently fully accessible. Chrome is a lot better and Internet Explorer has passed its prime. Firefox is my go to browser because you can do a lot more with
it than you can with Internet Explorer. Also, if you can’t work a Mac, then stick with your PC instead. Besides, you have more power with word prosessors and spreadsheets on a PC.

Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Redwing731@...
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Kschaber@...
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
SE.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Hi all,
I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a
new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over
my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari
works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you
get your apps?

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.

Astrid
http://bloggingastrid.com/
http://astridetal.wordpress.com/

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...

moderated Re: Facebook posting

Donna
 

Using the FB app..go to settings, type notifications, you will be presented with several ways one can receive notifications. Tap on each notification preference to change your current settings. 

Donna

On Jun 21, 2019, at 10:28 AM, Gudrun Brunot <brunotgudrun@...> wrote:

Hello all: I frequently get email messages with Facebook as the sender and a subject like: “[friend so-and-so] shared a link” or a photo, or updated his/her status. So how is that kind of message created—that is, what procedure will trigger that message to be sent as emails to your Facebook friends? There are times when I’d like to do that. I know you can post something by finding “What’s on your mind, [name]?” Then, find “Share” and make sure it’s the “share” button, not just the text somewhere. That, however, doesn’t seem to generate any message via email to your Facebook friends. They will see what you posted only if they decide to go to Facebook and cruise around. I’m not even sure how they find your post.

 

Yes, even if there isn’t a course on Facebook, it would be great to have some pointers on how to know how your stuff is treated if you place some thing on Facebook. I can use Facebook on my iPhone or my PC, but the conundrum is present whichever method I use.

 

All best,

 

 

 

Gudrun

 

Find my resume, listen to samples, and read about my services: vocal instruction, voiceover production, translation, phone interpreting, sound design, and hear clips from my CD, J-Walking by visiting

 

http://www.gudrunbrunot.com

 

New Email Address:  brunotgudrun@...

 

moderated : Transitioning back from Mac to PC: Why not both environments?

Peter Donahue
 

Good afternoon everyone,

 

                We currently have a Windows desktop and my wife's work laptop along with another Windows laptop we use for specific purposes. In addition we have the iPhone and an iPad Air2. We expect to add another iPad which will be the iPad Pro in the next month.

 

                I'm seriously considering getting a Mac for my next desktop. As long as they're still running we'll keep our current Windows machines along with the Apple machines allowing us to take advantage of the strengths of both environments. Why not hold onto the Mac and raise the needed funds to buy a new Windows desktop allowing you to use both types of desktop machines? We're doing that here.

 

Peter Donahue

 

 

moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Astrid van Woerkom
 

Thanks for explaining. I asked about getting apps becaus eon Mac, if something isn’t in the app store, it’s a pain to install. I know with Windows 8 it was very easy to install programs you got off the Internet, but I wasn’t sure this still works in Windows 10.


Op 21 jun. 2019 om 21:22 heeft JM Casey <jmcasey@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hello  Astrid.

 

The Windows app store seems quite accessible, but really, I do not use it for much. I can say though that you can successfully find and install apps from this place if you want to.

Where do we get our apps? That depends on what they are. I generally try to go to the source on the internet for whatever programme I am interested in.

 

I use Microsoft office, so outlook is my mail client of choice. You can get a recycled office license really cheaply nowadays.

 

As for browsers, Chrome and Firefox combination should serve you well. You will probably need to use both to have the best/smoothest experience.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Astrid van Woerkom
Sent: June 21, 2019 12:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

 

Hi all,

I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

 

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?

 

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

 

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.

moderated Re: images embeddedd in email messages?

Shannon
 

Ok, I didn’t realize that newer versions of Office were so inexpensive these days. I thought that you had to have a monthly subscription to these newer versions and that seamed silly when I don’t need a lot of the bells and wistles.

Some of the new stuff is just more, and not all that.

 

Where would I go to look for the newer versions. Do you really think that a newer version of the email client would be able to get to these embedded graphics?

I did find a setting in Jaws 2019 that does at least acknowledge that there is a graphic and it says it is in the local temp bla bla bla but I can’t seam to grab it, or coppy or save it at all.

The attachments save in office 2010 does not  scoup this sort of thing up in the save options.

I am using Jaws 2019 because I had to. I honestly am not as happy with it as I was with Window Eyes. IMO WE was a better product but… since it is gone I had to do something.

I am using windows 10 not because it is better but like you said it is what is being supported now. I think it is full of fluffy stuff but… mostly it works fine. Sometimes they just seam to change stuff for the sake of changing something, not to make it actually better but to make it different.

 

Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: images embeddedd in email messages?

 

Yes, but there comes a time when software which is way past any update and support period simply will cause too many headaches, it will become insecure and you will ask questions about some issue which others have a hard time answering because you are using software which most others left behind 5 or 6 years ago.

I have multiple computers at work and my laptop at home as well as my iPhone and I use Outlook.com for my personal email. I stopped using Office 2010 as soon as Office 2013 offered native support for Exchange Active Sync accounts without me having to install the old Hotmail connector program first.

If it turns out that the Save attachments feature does not exist in Office 2010 and that Shannon could access all or even most embedded images and files using it if she used Office 365 and, as she said, she is missing important information by not being able to access them then I would say the statement “Why buy a new one when mostly this does the job?” is not such a good one because apparently it does not do an important part of her job. Keep in mind that I am just hypothesizing because I haven’t seen her emails with these embedded images, for all I know they are also not accessible in Outlook through Office 365. But in general my statement stands, at some point you have to move on and get away from older software. Shannon says she is using Jaws 2019 and I’m not sure if she is on Windows 10 or still on Windows 7, but the statement she made could also be applied to Windows and Jaws, I mean, if she is using Office 2010, why not use Windows 10 with Jaws 13 or even earlier, imaging all the money you could have saved not upgrading Jaws. Of course the same applies, eventually you have to get a new computer which nowadays means you get a Windows 10 computer and especially with version 1903 and what is coming this fall and next spring you really need Jaws 2019.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 7:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: images embeddedd in email messages?

 

Right on, Shannon. I’m also using Office 2010. I think we all should remember that each one of us uses their tech in different ways under different circumstances and for different purposes. HTH Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: images embeddedd in email messages?

 

Because I own it. Why buy a new one when mostly this does the job?

I’ll try to see if there is a save atachments that will work on these embedded images.

Thanks for the idea.

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: images embeddedd in email messages?

 

Is there a specific reason why you still use Outlook 2010? Usually I still hear that the email includes attachments if it has embedded images, maybe it’s not always the case, but when it does tell me I can save them with File > Save attachments.

Keep in mind that I use the most current version of Outlook via Office 365 and it’s been so many years since I have used Office 2010 that I have no idea if Save Attachments which saves all attachments whether attached or embedded exists in 2010.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 7:09 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: images embeddedd in email messages?

 

Hello,

 

It has come to my attention that I am missing important   information in emails because they are actually including this information in an image format imbedded into the email body.

With Jaws 2019 and Outlook 2010 I am getting no indication that there are any images at all.

Is there at the least a setting that I can/need to change to be notified that there is more in these messages beyond the body text and the typical signature junk?

Once I find these images, is there a way to get to them and save them so I can possibly use OCR on them?

 

Thanks

Shannon

moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Astrid van Woerkom
 

Thanks so much for answering my questions so eloquently.


Op 21 jun. 2019 om 20:45 heeft Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...> het volgende geschreven:

Q: As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how usable JAWS is these
days?

A: Hi,As you found out VO on the Mac is way different than VO on the I Phone. As you have many years of Windows and Jaws experience you would be better off with a PC running Jaws or NVDA. I use Jaws since I am a long time user of it.

Q:  Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS.

A: Fire Fox, Chrome and IE are still the main options for browsers and each has it's use's. The new Chromium based Edge is great so far and I am using it as my default browser and it seems to do most everything I need it too. There will always be times when a second or third browser is needed. That is just life. But it is better than it used to be.

Q: What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?
A: Some use windows mail or Outlook, I really prefer Thunderbird. It is accessible and easy to use. The app store is somewhat accessible but you can still install programs just as you always have so I don't use it.

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it all the time.

Q: Yes, One drive, Dropbox and Google drive are all  available on both the PC and I Phone. I use One Drive and like it.

Q: What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)?
A: Not sure...

Q:  Just some random questions. Will ask more if
I think of any.

A: Of course we are here to help. :) smiley face



moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...>
 

Hi all! Good to know. Thank you! 



Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Redwing731@...
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Kschaber@...
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
SE.
Sent from my Gmail Email







 


From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Outlook is part of Office and you have to pay for it.
On 6/21/2019 11:22 AM, Kendra Schaber wrote:
Hi Astrid and all! I'm not sure if Outlook is built in because the Oregon Commission for the Blind got it for me for college. I do know that it's accessible with JAWS because I use it for my school email during homework sessions and emailed documents for classes. 




Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi Kendra,
Thanks so much. Is Outlook built in with Windows 10 or do you have to have Office for that? I don’t do a lot of word processing or spreadsheets. Most often I use my computer for blogging, E-mail and other online stuff.


Op 21 jun. 2019 om 19:46 heeft Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Astrid and all! I have a Dell laptop computer with JAWS, NVDA and Windows 10. I also have an Iphone. I also have Dropbox and Google Drive. Google Drive and Dropbox both sync up to both my computer and my Iphone. It's awesome!!! I'm a college student and I wouldn't survive college without that ability. I also have Outlook which is a a new vversion of the old Outlook  Express for your email. I on't know if Windows Mail is accessible because I don't don't use it. If I use Firefox the most on my computer. I use Microsoft Word and Google Dox for word prossessors. I use JAWS 2018 because I don’t care for JAWS 2019, thanks to bugs. NVDA has improved a lot and competes with JAWS. Even with JAWS, it’s still worth having NVDA as well so you can either swap between them as needed or as a back up for whenever JAWS refuses to behave. NVDA is still free but you pay for any add one. Both screen readers work with Windows 10 and the apps I mentioned. I don’t recamend Microsoft Edge because it’s not currently fully accessible. Chrome is a lot better and Internet Explorer has passed its prime. Firefox is my go to browser because you can do a lot more with it than you can with Internet Explorer. Also, if you can’t work a Mac, then stick with your PC instead. Besides, you have more power with word prosessors and spreadsheets on a PC.  


Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
SE.
Sent from my Gmail Email



































































































































 

From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi all,
I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.


moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

JM Casey
 

Hello  Astrid.

 

The Windows app store seems quite accessible, but really, I do not use it for much. I can say though that you can successfully find and install apps from this place if you want to.

Where do we get our apps? That depends on what they are. I generally try to go to the source on the internet for whatever programme I am interested in.

 

I use Microsoft office, so outlook is my mail client of choice. You can get a recycled office license really cheaply nowadays.

 

As for browsers, Chrome and Firefox combination should serve you well. You will probably need to use both to have the best/smoothest experience.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Astrid van Woerkom
Sent: June 21, 2019 12:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

 

Hi all,

I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

 

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?

 

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

 

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.

moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Randy Barnett
 

Outlook is part of Office and you have to pay for it.

On 6/21/2019 11:22 AM, Kendra Schaber wrote:
Hi Astrid and all! I'm not sure if Outlook is built in because the Oregon Commission for the Blind got it for me for college. I do know that it's accessible with JAWS because I use it for my school email during homework sessions and emailed documents for classes. 




Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
SE.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi Kendra,
Thanks so much. Is Outlook built in with Windows 10 or do you have to have Office for that? I don’t do a lot of word processing or spreadsheets. Most often I use my computer for blogging, E-mail and other online stuff.


Op 21 jun. 2019 om 19:46 heeft Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Astrid and all! I have a Dell laptop computer with JAWS, NVDA and Windows 10. I also have an Iphone. I also have Dropbox and Google Drive. Google Drive and Dropbox both sync up to both my computer and my Iphone. It's awesome!!! I'm a college student and I wouldn't survive college without that ability. I also have Outlook which is a a new vversion of the old Outlook  Express for your email. I on't know if Windows Mail is accessible because I don't don't use it. If I use Firefox the most on my computer. I use Microsoft Word and Google Dox for word prossessors. I use JAWS 2018 because I don’t care for JAWS 2019, thanks to bugs. NVDA has improved a lot and competes with JAWS. Even with JAWS, it’s still worth having NVDA as well so you can either swap between them as needed or as a back up for whenever JAWS refuses to behave. NVDA is still free but you pay for any add one. Both screen readers work with Windows 10 and the apps I mentioned. I don’t recamend Microsoft Edge because it’s not currently fully accessible. Chrome is a lot better and Internet Explorer has passed its prime. Firefox is my go to browser because you can do a lot more with it than you can with Internet Explorer. Also, if you can’t work a Mac, then stick with your PC instead. Besides, you have more power with word prosessors and spreadsheets on a PC.  


Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
SE.
Sent from my Gmail Email



































































































































 

From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi all,
I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.


moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Randy Barnett
 

Q: As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how usable JAWS is these
days?

A: Hi,As you found out VO on the Mac is way different than VO on the I Phone. As you have many years of Windows and Jaws experience you would be better off with a PC running Jaws or NVDA. I use Jaws since I am a long time user of it.

Q:  Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS.

A: Fire Fox, Chrome and IE are still the main options for browsers and each has it's use's. The new Chromium based Edge is great so far and I am using it as my default browser and it seems to do most everything I need it too. There will always be times when a second or third browser is needed. That is just life. But it is better than it used to be.

Q: What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?
A: Some use windows mail or Outlook, I really prefer Thunderbird. It is accessible and easy to use. The app store is somewhat accessible but you can still install programs just as you always have so I don't use it.

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it all the time.

Q: Yes, One drive, Dropbox and Google drive are all  available on both the PC and I Phone. I use One Drive and like it.

Q: What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)?
A: Not sure...

Q:  Just some random questions. Will ask more if
I think of any.

A: Of course we are here to help. :) smiley face

moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Kendra Schaber <kschaber@...>
 

Hi Astrid and all! I'm not sure if Outlook is built in because the Oregon Commission for the Blind got it for me for college. I do know that it's accessible with JAWS because I use it for my school email during homework sessions and emailed documents for classes. 




Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Redwing731@...
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Kschaber@...
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
SE.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 11:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi Kendra,
Thanks so much. Is Outlook built in with Windows 10 or do you have to have Office for that? I don’t do a lot of word processing or spreadsheets. Most often I use my computer for blogging, E-mail and other online stuff.


Op 21 jun. 2019 om 19:46 heeft Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Astrid and all! I have a Dell laptop computer with JAWS, NVDA and Windows 10. I also have an Iphone. I also have Dropbox and Google Drive. Google Drive and Dropbox both sync up to both my computer and my Iphone. It's awesome!!! I'm a college student and I wouldn't survive college without that ability. I also have Outlook which is a a new vversion of the old Outlook  Express for your email. I on't know if Windows Mail is accessible because I don't don't use it. If I use Firefox the most on my computer. I use Microsoft Word and Google Dox for word prossessors. I use JAWS 2018 because I don’t care for JAWS 2019, thanks to bugs. NVDA has improved a lot and competes with JAWS. Even with JAWS, it’s still worth having NVDA as well so you can either swap between them as needed or as a back up for whenever JAWS refuses to behave. NVDA is still free but you pay for any add one. Both screen readers work with Windows 10 and the apps I mentioned. I don’t recamend Microsoft Edge because it’s not currently fully accessible. Chrome is a lot better and Internet Explorer has passed its prime. Firefox is my go to browser because you can do a lot more with it than you can with Internet Explorer. Also, if you can’t work a Mac, then stick with your PC instead. Besides, you have more power with word prosessors and spreadsheets on a PC.  


Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
SE.
Sent from my Gmail Email



































































































































 

From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi all,
I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.

moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Astrid van Woerkom
 

Thanks so much. I have experience with Thunderbird but it stopped working with my old JAWS. Glad it works with current versions.


Op 21 jun. 2019 om 20:28 heeft Chris Hill <hillco@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hello.

Yes, kindle for pc is still accessible, and I’d sayh better than it used to be.  I prefer to use the Chromium type browsers like Chrome or Brave(good when you really want all ads blocked).  Both seem to work about the same.  I use thunderbird for email, windows mail is basically a dumpster fire in my opinion.  Thunderbird is free, and while it isn’t perfect, I’ve been using it for a good ten years without trouble.  Firefox used to have the best rss capabilities, but it quit doing that.  Thunderbird can work with rss feeds, it is not much fun to get them set up because you have to switch back and forth to the browser to find and save the url’s, but once set up, thunderbird has a built in browser that reads the feed pretty well.

Hope this helps.

CH



On Jun 21, 2019, at 13:16, Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...> wrote:

Hi Kendra,
Thanks so much. Is Outlook built in with Windows 10 or do you have to have Office for that? I don’t do a lot of word processing or spreadsheets. Most often I use my computer for blogging, E-mail and other online stuff.


Op 21 jun. 2019 om 19:46 heeft Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Astrid and all! I have a Dell laptop computer with JAWS, NVDA and Windows 10. I also have an Iphone. I also have Dropbox and Google Drive. Google Drive and Dropbox both sync up to both my computer and my Iphone. It's awesome!!! I'm a college student and I wouldn't survive college without that ability. I also have Outlook which is a a new vversion of the old Outlook  Express for your email. I on't know if Windows Mail is accessible because I don't don't use it. If I use Firefox the most on my computer. I use Microsoft Word and Google Dox for word prossessors. I use JAWS 2018 because I don’t care for JAWS 2019, thanks to bugs. NVDA has improved a lot and competes with JAWS. Even with JAWS, it’s still worth having NVDA as well so you can either swap between them as needed or as a back up for whenever JAWS refuses to behave. NVDA is still free but you pay for any add one. Both screen readers work with Windows 10 and the apps I mentioned. I don’t recamend Microsoft Edge because it’s not currently fully accessible. Chrome is a lot better and Internet Explorer has passed its prime. Firefox is my go to browser because you can do a lot more with it than you can with Internet Explorer. Also, if you can’t work a Mac, then stick with your PC instead. Besides, you have more power with word prosessors and spreadsheets on a PC.  


Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
SE.
Sent from my Gmail Email



































































































































 

From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi all,
I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.

moderated Re: downloading PDFs in Google Chrome

 

Scratch reading that PDF in my last response.  Things have changed, at least slightly. 

Adobe actually presents a link to this webpage, https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/display-pdf-in-browser.html, in its internet preferences now.  This page explains how to toggle display with a web browser on or off (meaning use Reader instead) in a variety of contemporary browsers.

If a given browser is currently displaying in browser, then wherever they have you go to turn that on is where you'll go to turn that off.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

       ~ Lauren Bacall

moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Chris Hill
 

Hello.

Yes, kindle for pc is still accessible, and I’d sayh better than it used to be.  I prefer to use the Chromium type browsers like Chrome or Brave(good when you really want all ads blocked).  Both seem to work about the same.  I use thunderbird for email, windows mail is basically a dumpster fire in my opinion.  Thunderbird is free, and while it isn’t perfect, I’ve been using it for a good ten years without trouble.  Firefox used to have the best rss capabilities, but it quit doing that.  Thunderbird can work with rss feeds, it is not much fun to get them set up because you have to switch back and forth to the browser to find and save the url’s, but once set up, thunderbird has a built in browser that reads the feed pretty well.

Hope this helps.

CH



On Jun 21, 2019, at 13:16, Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...> wrote:

Hi Kendra,
Thanks so much. Is Outlook built in with Windows 10 or do you have to have Office for that? I don’t do a lot of word processing or spreadsheets. Most often I use my computer for blogging, E-mail and other online stuff.


Op 21 jun. 2019 om 19:46 heeft Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Astrid and all! I have a Dell laptop computer with JAWS, NVDA and Windows 10. I also have an Iphone. I also have Dropbox and Google Drive. Google Drive and Dropbox both sync up to both my computer and my Iphone. It's awesome!!! I'm a college student and I wouldn't survive college without that ability. I also have Outlook which is a a new vversion of the old Outlook  Express for your email. I on't know if Windows Mail is accessible because I don't don't use it. If I use Firefox the most on my computer. I use Microsoft Word and Google Dox for word prossessors. I use JAWS 2018 because I don’t care for JAWS 2019, thanks to bugs. NVDA has improved a lot and competes with JAWS. Even with JAWS, it’s still worth having NVDA as well so you can either swap between them as needed or as a back up for whenever JAWS refuses to behave. NVDA is still free but you pay for any add one. Both screen readers work with Windows 10 and the apps I mentioned. I don’t recamend Microsoft Edge because it’s not currently fully accessible. Chrome is a lot better and Internet Explorer has passed its prime. Firefox is my go to browser because you can do a lot more with it than you can with Internet Explorer. Also, if you can’t work a Mac, then stick with your PC instead. Besides, you have more power with word prosessors and spreadsheets on a PC.  


Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
SE.
Sent from my Gmail Email



































































































































 

From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi all,
I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.

moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Astrid van Woerkom
 

Hi Kendra,
Thanks so much. Is Outlook built in with Windows 10 or do you have to have Office for that? I don’t do a lot of word processing or spreadsheets. Most often I use my computer for blogging, E-mail and other online stuff.


Op 21 jun. 2019 om 19:46 heeft Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Astrid and all! I have a Dell laptop computer with JAWS, NVDA and Windows 10. I also have an Iphone. I also have Dropbox and Google Drive. Google Drive and Dropbox both sync up to both my computer and my Iphone. It's awesome!!! I'm a college student and I wouldn't survive college without that ability. I also have Outlook which is a a new vversion of the old Outlook  Express for your email. I on't know if Windows Mail is accessible because I don't don't use it. If I use Firefox the most on my computer. I use Microsoft Word and Google Dox for word prossessors. I use JAWS 2018 because I don’t care for JAWS 2019, thanks to bugs. NVDA has improved a lot and competes with JAWS. Even with JAWS, it’s still worth having NVDA as well so you can either swap between them as needed or as a back up for whenever JAWS refuses to behave. NVDA is still free but you pay for any add one. Both screen readers work with Windows 10 and the apps I mentioned. I don’t recamend Microsoft Edge because it’s not currently fully accessible. Chrome is a lot better and Internet Explorer has passed its prime. Firefox is my go to browser because you can do a lot more with it than you can with Internet Explorer. Also, if you can’t work a Mac, then stick with your PC instead. Besides, you have more power with word prosessors and spreadsheets on a PC.  


Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
Chemeketa Community College,
350 Org,
Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
Home Email:
Chemeketa Community College Email:
Phone:
971-599-9991
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author unknown.
SE.
Sent from my Gmail Email



































































































































 

From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi all,
I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.

moderated Re: downloading PDFs in Google Chrome

 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:36 PM, Cynthia Bruce wrote:
Is there a way for me to be able to open in Adobe rather than in the built-in PDF reader?
Yes.   Read the following PDF for instructions.  It dates from 2016, and I haven't been using Adobe Reader for quite some time, so it may not be current.  If it turns out not to work with Reader DC then please let me know and I'll actually install Reader DC to take a look at how it's working now.

Configuring your web browsers to open PDF files in Adobe Reader - Done from within Adobe Reader's settings
 
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moderated Re: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions

Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...>
 

Hi Astrid and all! I have a Dell laptop computer with JAWS, NVDA and Windows 10. I also have an Iphone. I also have Dropbox and Google Drive. Google Drive and Dropbox both sync up to both my computer and my Iphone. It's awesome!!! I'm a college student and I wouldn't survive college without that ability. I also have Outlook which is a a new vversion of the old Outlook  Express for your email. I on't know if Windows Mail is accessible because I don't don't use it. If I use Firefox the most on my computer. I use Microsoft Word and Google Dox for word prossessors. I use JAWS 2018 because I don’t care for JAWS 2019, thanks to bugs. NVDA has improved a lot and competes with JAWS. Even with JAWS, it’s still worth having NVDA as well so you can either swap between them as needed or as a back up for whenever JAWS refuses to behave. NVDA is still free but you pay for any add one. Both screen readers work with Windows 10 and the apps I mentioned. I don’t recamend Microsoft Edge because it’s not currently fully accessible. Chrome is a lot better and Internet Explorer has passed its prime. Firefox is my go to browser because you can do a lot more with it than you can with Internet Explorer. Also, if you can’t work a Mac, then stick with your PC instead. Besides, you have more power with word prosessors and spreadsheets on a PC.  


Thank you for taking the time to read this Email!
Blessed be!!!
Kendra Schaber
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Citizen’s Climate Lobby,
National Federation of the Blind of Oregon,
Capitol Chapter,
Salem, Oregon.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of Astrid van Woerkom <astrid@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Transitioning back from Mac to PC? Lots of questions
 
Hi all,
I have some questions. I need to make the choice between a Mac with VoiceOve ror a PC with Windows 10 and JAWS. Background: hav eused PCs with JAWS ever since 2002, but had been waiting for approval from my health insurance to get a new JAWS version ever since late 2017. In the meantime, last January, I bought a Mac, which I can’t get used to. Long story short, I was finally approved for JAWS and now my husband is willing to get me a Windows PC and to take over my Mac. Keeping both the Mac and PC is not an option for practical reasons.

As the purchase of the Mac was quite a desperate action and I don’t want to repeat it, I want to get opinions from people as to how useable JAWS is these days? Is there a browser that works well? I cannot get used to the way Safari works on the Mac, but I don’t want to have to have three different browsers on my PC like I did with my last Windows PC and way old JAWS. What about Windows Mail? Is the Windows app store accessible nowadays, and if not, where do you get your apps?

Is there a way to keep files synchronized between PC and iPhone? I like my iPhone and really use it ll the time.

What feed reader(s) is/are accessible with JAWS? Is Kindle for PC still accessible (Kindle for Mac isn’t)? Just some random questions. Will ask more if I think of any.