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Re: Jaws speech rate.

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

thanks just wondering.

On 5/7/2019 2:30 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Yes, that's what I hear with most punctuation turned on.



On 5/7/2019 13:16, Randy Barnett wrote:
I am just curious. When setting the speech rate is the number words per minute then the percent of the possible range? Example: 90 then 42% Never even thought about it before but it seems right.




Re: Jaws speech rate.

Chris Hill
 

Yes, that's what I hear with most punctuation turned on.

On 5/7/2019 13:16, Randy Barnett wrote:
I am just curious. When setting the speech rate is the number words per minute then the percent of the possible range? Example: 90 then 42% Never even thought about it before but it seems right.



Re: G mail and JAWS

Ann Byrne
 

First, be sure email is in HTML view, not basic. To skip quickly through the items in a mailbox, press the letter 'x'. If you want to make your student's life easier and it's available, set up Outlook or another program to handle GMail. It's tricky, but I personally prefer it. GMail is certainly useable, but it's clunky.

Good luck.

Friends I have a client using gmail without Outlook. Does anyone have a tutorial or some helpful commands for getting around with gmail and JAWS
Thank you
Palmer


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Re: Online services like Dropbox, which are more accessible to screen readers

Curtis Delzer
 

I use to think so about send space, have had an account with them for 11 years or so, maybe longer actually, but now if I connect with the wizard once a day, it if fortunate. I don't know where the inconsistency lies, but I do know it is my equipment nor the internet connection which is stable according to all other services I use through Spectrum, so if you use Spectrum, you may find a way to see if SS works from your area and if it does, right on, it is a great service, but not for me, now, unfortunately.

Curtis Delzer
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA

On 5/6/2019 10:47 AM, Mich Verrier wrote:
For a year I think it is around 95 usd but as others have said it is well
werth the price. From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis Brown
Sent: May 6, 2019 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Online services like Dropbox, which are more accessible to
screen readers

What is the price for a paid account?

-----Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 12:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Online services like Dropbox, which are more accessible to
screen readers

I have a paid sendspace account. The wizard is terrific. Not sure if they
have phone apps 9I think they might) but I don't use such things generally
so it doesn't matter much. I have the option in my context menu in File
Explorer to upload files to sendspace and I use it all the time to exchange
stuff with bandmates and people in my film group and others, as well as
having a repository of a bunch of useful stuff on file remotely for when I
need it. The wizard can be downloaded onto any computer (though it only
works for those who have accounts and maybe only paid accounts at that) and
you can easily upload and download files with a single keystroke. Pretty
good.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: May 6, 2019 11:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Online services like Dropbox, which are more accessible to
screen readers

Hello there:

I also use SendSpace. The problem with SendSpace, unless you sign up for a
paid account, the largest file you can upload is 300 MB.

With my Dropbox free account, I have 2 GB, without any upload or download
limit, except for the 2 GB maximum.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "cédric Paulet via Groups.Io" <cedric.paulet=yahoo.fr@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: Online services like Dropbox, which are more accessible to
screen readers


Good morning,



I use Sendspace. It's accessible with screen readers. But it's very
expensive.

I use Pcloud, accessible with Jaws and other screen readers.



De : main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> De la part de Dave Durber
Envoyé : lundi 6 mai 2019 11:41 À : main@jfw.groups.io Objet : Online
services like Dropbox, which are more accessible to screen readers



Hello everyone:



What other online services like Dropbox, are users on the list using?



I am not interested in services such as, Google Drive and Microsoft's
OneDrive!



Sincerely:



Dave Durber



















G mail and JAWS

Palmer Loux
 

Friends I have a client using gmail without Outlook. Does anyone have a tutorial or some helpful commands for getting around with gmail and JAWS
Thank you
Palmer


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Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

Van Lant, Robin
 

Tom,

You can specify conversation mode by folder.  For example, I have all my JAWS list emails come into one folder which is set to conversation mode so that I can more quickly sift through topics I am interested in.   If I am in my inbox, the view ribbon shows conversation mode as unchecked.  If I am in my JAWS folder, the view ribbon shows conversation mode as checked.  Even in my JAWS folder, I do not get the same experience that Sieghard mentioned; if I send n email to the JAWS list, such as this one, I will see it come through on the list, but I do not see the copy that went into my sent mail.

 

I really do think you’ll have to have Microsoft look at what is going on if you continue to have this problem.  I’ve used Outlook for years and just not seen what you are experiencing.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 11:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Bill:

 

You’re right. …  I absolutely don’t want my messages in conversational view, and it seems that conversational view does not happen in my inbox.  In other words, I can delete individual messages from the inbox with no problem.

 

In fact, as I just replied, “show as conversations” is un-checked, which is the way I want things to be.

 

This is why I don’t understand why carbon copies of my messages in my inbox also get deleted from my sent file when I delete them from the inbox.

 

This has just started to happen relatively recently, so something in Outlook has changed.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 1:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi, Tom. Have you considered not having your messages grouped into conversations at all? This is the way I use Outlook, and I never have messages deleted unintentionally due to complete conversations being deleted.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 9:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Sieghard:

 

This does not seem to work for me here.

 

I’m using Outlook 2016 in Office 365, Windows 10 version 1809, and the latest build of Jaws 2019.

 

Can you give me step-by-step directions for configuring Outlook to delete individual messages, rather than the entire conversation?

 

Once again, my problem is that when I delete my copy of a message I sent from the inbox, it gets deleted from my sent file as well.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi Tom,

 

As soon as you reply to a message it should be treated as a conversation and of course the same applies if the other person sends another reply or message. If I reply to a message and then right arrow I can then up arrow and even though I am in the Inbox I then see the message I sent which is located in the Sent Items folder.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 6:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Sieghard:

 

I think you are correct here.

 

My question is when and how do I use the right arrow key to expand the conversation?

 

I haven’t been able to find this option, at least so far.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 12:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi Tom,

 

I think what is happening here is that when you delete the message which you sent to yourself you are basically deleting the conversation and the conversation includes the message in your Sent Items folder.

Next time try to press the right arrow first to expand the conversation and then only delete the message you received and see if the sent message remains in the Sent Items folder.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2019 8:57 AM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hello, everyone.

 

Occasionally, I will copy myself on an Outlook e-mail message, because the message is very important, and I want to be sure it has been sent.

 

Recently, I have noticed that if I delete the received message copy from my inbox, it is also deleted from my sent file.

 

Is there a way I can configure Outlook so that the message remains in my sent file, even though it has been deleted from my inbox?

 

I’m using the Office 365 version of Outlook 2016 with Windows 10 and the latest build of Jaws 2019.

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 



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Re: Issue with recent Jaws 2019 update and Outlook 2016 spellcheck

Cristóbal
 

Already did.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 11:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Issue with recent Jaws 2019 update and Outlook 2016 spellcheck

 

You should inform FS about this.

On 5/7/2019 9:56 AM, Cristóbal wrote:

Hello list,

So to the point, After updating Jaws 2019 with the recent April release, I’m noticing that when I try using the spellcheck function of listing all misspellings/typos with the shift+alt+L command, Outlook straight up just crashes.

This is with a retail license Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.11601.20144.

F7 is fine and so are other features like text analyzer, but for whatever reason, when I do this particular shift+alt+L command, Bye bye Outlook.

I’ve tried copying text to the clipboard before invoking this keyboard command and it seems that after the crash the text isn’t saved to paste later. This crashing behavior isn’t something that happens every single time, but enough that I’ve noticed it.

Anyone else dealing with this?

Thanks,

Cristobal

 


Re: Issue with recent Jaws 2019 update and Outlook 2016 spellcheck

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

You should inform FS about this.

On 5/7/2019 9:56 AM, Cristóbal wrote:

Hello list,

So to the point, After updating Jaws 2019 with the recent April release, I’m noticing that when I try using the spellcheck function of listing all misspellings/typos with the shift+alt+L command, Outlook straight up just crashes.

This is with a retail license Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.11601.20144.

F7 is fine and so are other features like text analyzer, but for whatever reason, when I do this particular shift+alt+L command, Bye bye Outlook.

I’ve tried copying text to the clipboard before invoking this keyboard command and it seems that after the crash the text isn’t saved to paste later. This crashing behavior isn’t something that happens every single time, but enough that I’ve noticed it.

Anyone else dealing with this?

Thanks,

Cristobal



Re: Online services like Dropbox, which are more accessible to screen readers

Mich Verrier
 

For a year I think it is around 95 usd but as others have said it is well
werth the price. From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis Brown
Sent: May 6, 2019 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Online services like Dropbox, which are more accessible to
screen readers

What is the price for a paid account?

-----Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 12:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Online services like Dropbox, which are more accessible to
screen readers

I have a paid sendspace account. The wizard is terrific. Not sure if they
have phone apps 9I think they might) but I don't use such things generally
so it doesn't matter much. I have the option in my context menu in File
Explorer to upload files to sendspace and I use it all the time to exchange
stuff with bandmates and people in my film group and others, as well as
having a repository of a bunch of useful stuff on file remotely for when I
need it. The wizard can be downloaded onto any computer (though it only
works for those who have accounts and maybe only paid accounts at that) and
you can easily upload and download files with a single keystroke. Pretty
good.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: May 6, 2019 11:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Online services like Dropbox, which are more accessible to
screen readers

Hello there:

I also use SendSpace. The problem with SendSpace, unless you sign up for a
paid account, the largest file you can upload is 300 MB.

With my Dropbox free account, I have 2 GB, without any upload or download
limit, except for the 2 GB maximum.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "cédric Paulet via Groups.Io" <cedric.paulet=yahoo.fr@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: Online services like Dropbox, which are more accessible to
screen readers


Good morning,



I use Sendspace. It's accessible with screen readers. But it's very
expensive.

I use Pcloud, accessible with Jaws and other screen readers.



De : main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> De la part de Dave Durber
Envoyé : lundi 6 mai 2019 11:41 À : main@jfw.groups.io Objet : Online
services like Dropbox, which are more accessible to screen readers



Hello everyone:



What other online services like Dropbox, are users on the list using?



I am not interested in services such as, Google Drive and Microsoft's
OneDrive!



Sincerely:



Dave Durber


Jaws speech rate.

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>
 

I am just curious. When setting the speech rate is the number words per minute then the percent of the possible range? Example: 90 then 42% Never even thought about it before but it seems right.


Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

Tom Behler
 

Yes, I agree.

 

I may have to call MS Accessibility on this one if we can’t come up with a solution.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 1:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Tom,

I just tried this in my version of Outlook 2016 and did not get the same issue you did.  I sent myself a message from my work account to my home account and copied myself here at work.  I then deleted the carbon copied message in my inbox and still see the original message in my sent mail.  I cannot see anything in the Mail settings that lead me to understand  why this might be occurring for you.  I think this is a case where you might want to call Microsoft Accessibility, especially if you can do so with the Be My Eyes app or let someone remote into your computer to see what is happening. 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 10:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Sieghard:

 

This does not seem to work for me here.

 

I’m using Outlook 2016 in Office 365, Windows 10 version 1809, and the latest build of Jaws 2019.

 

Can you give me step-by-step directions for configuring Outlook to delete individual messages, rather than the entire conversation?

 

Once again, my problem is that when I delete my copy of a message I sent from the inbox, it gets deleted from my sent file as well.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi Tom,

 

As soon as you reply to a message it should be treated as a conversation and of course the same applies if the other person sends another reply or message. If I reply to a message and then right arrow I can then up arrow and even though I am in the Inbox I then see the message I sent which is located in the Sent Items folder.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 6:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Sieghard:

 

I think you are correct here.

 

My question is when and how do I use the right arrow key to expand the conversation?

 

I haven’t been able to find this option, at least so far.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 12:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi Tom,

 

I think what is happening here is that when you delete the message which you sent to yourself you are basically deleting the conversation and the conversation includes the message in your Sent Items folder.

Next time try to press the right arrow first to expand the conversation and then only delete the message you received and see if the sent message remains in the Sent Items folder.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2019 8:57 AM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hello, everyone.

 

Occasionally, I will copy myself on an Outlook e-mail message, because the message is very important, and I want to be sure it has been sent.

 

Recently, I have noticed that if I delete the received message copy from my inbox, it is also deleted from my sent file.

 

Is there a way I can configure Outlook so that the message remains in my sent file, even though it has been deleted from my inbox?

 

I’m using the Office 365 version of Outlook 2016 with Windows 10 and the latest build of Jaws 2019.

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 



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Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

Tom Behler
 

Bill:

 

You’re right. …  I absolutely don’t want my messages in conversational view, and it seems that conversational view does not happen in my inbox.  In other words, I can delete individual messages from the inbox with no problem.

 

In fact, as I just replied, “show as conversations” is un-checked, which is the way I want things to be.

 

This is why I don’t understand why carbon copies of my messages in my inbox also get deleted from my sent file when I delete them from the inbox.

 

This has just started to happen relatively recently, so something in Outlook has changed.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 1:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi, Tom. Have you considered not having your messages grouped into conversations at all? This is the way I use Outlook, and I never have messages deleted unintentionally due to complete conversations being deleted.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 9:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Sieghard:

 

This does not seem to work for me here.

 

I’m using Outlook 2016 in Office 365, Windows 10 version 1809, and the latest build of Jaws 2019.

 

Can you give me step-by-step directions for configuring Outlook to delete individual messages, rather than the entire conversation?

 

Once again, my problem is that when I delete my copy of a message I sent from the inbox, it gets deleted from my sent file as well.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi Tom,

 

As soon as you reply to a message it should be treated as a conversation and of course the same applies if the other person sends another reply or message. If I reply to a message and then right arrow I can then up arrow and even though I am in the Inbox I then see the message I sent which is located in the Sent Items folder.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 6:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Sieghard:

 

I think you are correct here.

 

My question is when and how do I use the right arrow key to expand the conversation?

 

I haven’t been able to find this option, at least so far.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 12:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi Tom,

 

I think what is happening here is that when you delete the message which you sent to yourself you are basically deleting the conversation and the conversation includes the message in your Sent Items folder.

Next time try to press the right arrow first to expand the conversation and then only delete the message you received and see if the sent message remains in the Sent Items folder.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2019 8:57 AM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hello, everyone.

 

Occasionally, I will copy myself on an Outlook e-mail message, because the message is very important, and I want to be sure it has been sent.

 

Recently, I have noticed that if I delete the received message copy from my inbox, it is also deleted from my sent file.

 

Is there a way I can configure Outlook so that the message remains in my sent file, even though it has been deleted from my inbox?

 

I’m using the Office 365 version of Outlook 2016 with Windows 10 and the latest build of Jaws 2019.

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

Tom Behler
 

Robin:

 

I just checked, and “show as conversation view” is not checked.

 

So, now I’m thinking conversation view is not the problem, unless you can specify this by folder.

 

If so, I’m not sure how to do that.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 12:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

I think this assumes Tom is using Conversation view.  I only use this view in some folders and definitely not in my inbox.   

Tom, you can check if this is your case by looking on the View ribbon.  Tab over to the checkbox that says Conversation view and see if it is checked or unchecked.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 10:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Sieghard:

 

This does not seem to work for me here.

 

I’m using Outlook 2016 in Office 365, Windows 10 version 1809, and the latest build of Jaws 2019.

 

Can you give me step-by-step directions for configuring Outlook to delete individual messages, rather than the entire conversation?

 

Once again, my problem is that when I delete my copy of a message I sent from the inbox, it gets deleted from my sent file as well.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi Tom,

 

As soon as you reply to a message it should be treated as a conversation and of course the same applies if the other person sends another reply or message. If I reply to a message and then right arrow I can then up arrow and even though I am in the Inbox I then see the message I sent which is located in the Sent Items folder.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 6:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Sieghard:

 

I think you are correct here.

 

My question is when and how do I use the right arrow key to expand the conversation?

 

I haven’t been able to find this option, at least so far.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 12:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi Tom,

 

I think what is happening here is that when you delete the message which you sent to yourself you are basically deleting the conversation and the conversation includes the message in your Sent Items folder.

Next time try to press the right arrow first to expand the conversation and then only delete the message you received and see if the sent message remains in the Sent Items folder.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2019 8:57 AM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hello, everyone.

 

Occasionally, I will copy myself on an Outlook e-mail message, because the message is very important, and I want to be sure it has been sent.

 

Recently, I have noticed that if I delete the received message copy from my inbox, it is also deleted from my sent file.

 

Is there a way I can configure Outlook so that the message remains in my sent file, even though it has been deleted from my inbox?

 

I’m using the Office 365 version of Outlook 2016 with Windows 10 and the latest build of Jaws 2019.

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 



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Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

Van Lant, Robin
 

Tom,

I just tried this in my version of Outlook 2016 and did not get the same issue you did.  I sent myself a message from my work account to my home account and copied myself here at work.  I then deleted the carbon copied message in my inbox and still see the original message in my sent mail.  I cannot see anything in the Mail settings that lead me to understand  why this might be occurring for you.  I think this is a case where you might want to call Microsoft Accessibility, especially if you can do so with the Be My Eyes app or let someone remote into your computer to see what is happening. 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 10:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Sieghard:

 

This does not seem to work for me here.

 

I’m using Outlook 2016 in Office 365, Windows 10 version 1809, and the latest build of Jaws 2019.

 

Can you give me step-by-step directions for configuring Outlook to delete individual messages, rather than the entire conversation?

 

Once again, my problem is that when I delete my copy of a message I sent from the inbox, it gets deleted from my sent file as well.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi Tom,

 

As soon as you reply to a message it should be treated as a conversation and of course the same applies if the other person sends another reply or message. If I reply to a message and then right arrow I can then up arrow and even though I am in the Inbox I then see the message I sent which is located in the Sent Items folder.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 6:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Sieghard:

 

I think you are correct here.

 

My question is when and how do I use the right arrow key to expand the conversation?

 

I haven’t been able to find this option, at least so far.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 12:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi Tom,

 

I think what is happening here is that when you delete the message which you sent to yourself you are basically deleting the conversation and the conversation includes the message in your Sent Items folder.

Next time try to press the right arrow first to expand the conversation and then only delete the message you received and see if the sent message remains in the Sent Items folder.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2019 8:57 AM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hello, everyone.

 

Occasionally, I will copy myself on an Outlook e-mail message, because the message is very important, and I want to be sure it has been sent.

 

Recently, I have noticed that if I delete the received message copy from my inbox, it is also deleted from my sent file.

 

Is there a way I can configure Outlook so that the message remains in my sent file, even though it has been deleted from my inbox?

 

I’m using the Office 365 version of Outlook 2016 with Windows 10 and the latest build of Jaws 2019.

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 



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Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Tom. Have you considered not having your messages grouped into conversations at all? This is the way I use Outlook, and I never have messages deleted unintentionally due to complete conversations being deleted.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 9:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Sieghard:

 

This does not seem to work for me here.

 

I’m using Outlook 2016 in Office 365, Windows 10 version 1809, and the latest build of Jaws 2019.

 

Can you give me step-by-step directions for configuring Outlook to delete individual messages, rather than the entire conversation?

 

Once again, my problem is that when I delete my copy of a message I sent from the inbox, it gets deleted from my sent file as well.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi Tom,

 

As soon as you reply to a message it should be treated as a conversation and of course the same applies if the other person sends another reply or message. If I reply to a message and then right arrow I can then up arrow and even though I am in the Inbox I then see the message I sent which is located in the Sent Items folder.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 6:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Sieghard:

 

I think you are correct here.

 

My question is when and how do I use the right arrow key to expand the conversation?

 

I haven’t been able to find this option, at least so far.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 12:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi Tom,

 

I think what is happening here is that when you delete the message which you sent to yourself you are basically deleting the conversation and the conversation includes the message in your Sent Items folder.

Next time try to press the right arrow first to expand the conversation and then only delete the message you received and see if the sent message remains in the Sent Items folder.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2019 8:57 AM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hello, everyone.

 

Occasionally, I will copy myself on an Outlook e-mail message, because the message is very important, and I want to be sure it has been sent.

 

Recently, I have noticed that if I delete the received message copy from my inbox, it is also deleted from my sent file.

 

Is there a way I can configure Outlook so that the message remains in my sent file, even though it has been deleted from my inbox?

 

I’m using the Office 365 version of Outlook 2016 with Windows 10 and the latest build of Jaws 2019.

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Issue with recent Jaws 2019 update and Outlook 2016 spellcheck

Cristóbal
 

Hello list,

So to the point, After updating Jaws 2019 with the recent April release, I’m noticing that when I try using the spellcheck function of listing all misspellings/typos with the shift+alt+L command, Outlook straight up just crashes.

This is with a retail license Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.11601.20144.

F7 is fine and so are other features like text analyzer, but for whatever reason, when I do this particular shift+alt+L command, Bye bye Outlook.

I’ve tried copying text to the clipboard before invoking this keyboard command and it seems that after the crash the text isn’t saved to paste later. This crashing behavior isn’t something that happens every single time, but enough that I’ve noticed it.

Anyone else dealing with this?

Thanks,

Cristobal


Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

Van Lant, Robin
 

I think this assumes Tom is using Conversation view.  I only use this view in some folders and definitely not in my inbox.   

Tom, you can check if this is your case by looking on the View ribbon.  Tab over to the checkbox that says Conversation view and see if it is checked or unchecked.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 10:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Sieghard:

 

This does not seem to work for me here.

 

I’m using Outlook 2016 in Office 365, Windows 10 version 1809, and the latest build of Jaws 2019.

 

Can you give me step-by-step directions for configuring Outlook to delete individual messages, rather than the entire conversation?

 

Once again, my problem is that when I delete my copy of a message I sent from the inbox, it gets deleted from my sent file as well.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi Tom,

 

As soon as you reply to a message it should be treated as a conversation and of course the same applies if the other person sends another reply or message. If I reply to a message and then right arrow I can then up arrow and even though I am in the Inbox I then see the message I sent which is located in the Sent Items folder.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 6:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Sieghard:

 

I think you are correct here.

 

My question is when and how do I use the right arrow key to expand the conversation?

 

I haven’t been able to find this option, at least so far.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 12:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi Tom,

 

I think what is happening here is that when you delete the message which you sent to yourself you are basically deleting the conversation and the conversation includes the message in your Sent Items folder.

Next time try to press the right arrow first to expand the conversation and then only delete the message you received and see if the sent message remains in the Sent Items folder.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2019 8:57 AM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hello, everyone.

 

Occasionally, I will copy myself on an Outlook e-mail message, because the message is very important, and I want to be sure it has been sent.

 

Recently, I have noticed that if I delete the received message copy from my inbox, it is also deleted from my sent file.

 

Is there a way I can configure Outlook so that the message remains in my sent file, even though it has been deleted from my inbox?

 

I’m using the Office 365 version of Outlook 2016 with Windows 10 and the latest build of Jaws 2019.

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 



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Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

Tom Behler
 

Sieghard:

 

This does not seem to work for me here.

 

I’m using Outlook 2016 in Office 365, Windows 10 version 1809, and the latest build of Jaws 2019.

 

Can you give me step-by-step directions for configuring Outlook to delete individual messages, rather than the entire conversation?

 

Once again, my problem is that when I delete my copy of a message I sent from the inbox, it gets deleted from my sent file as well.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 12:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi Tom,

 

As soon as you reply to a message it should be treated as a conversation and of course the same applies if the other person sends another reply or message. If I reply to a message and then right arrow I can then up arrow and even though I am in the Inbox I then see the message I sent which is located in the Sent Items folder.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 6:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Sieghard:

 

I think you are correct here.

 

My question is when and how do I use the right arrow key to expand the conversation?

 

I haven’t been able to find this option, at least so far.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 12:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi Tom,

 

I think what is happening here is that when you delete the message which you sent to yourself you are basically deleting the conversation and the conversation includes the message in your Sent Items folder.

Next time try to press the right arrow first to expand the conversation and then only delete the message you received and see if the sent message remains in the Sent Items folder.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2019 8:57 AM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hello, everyone.

 

Occasionally, I will copy myself on an Outlook e-mail message, because the message is very important, and I want to be sure it has been sent.

 

Recently, I have noticed that if I delete the received message copy from my inbox, it is also deleted from my sent file.

 

Is there a way I can configure Outlook so that the message remains in my sent file, even though it has been deleted from my inbox?

 

I’m using the Office 365 version of Outlook 2016 with Windows 10 and the latest build of Jaws 2019.

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi Tom,

 

As soon as you reply to a message it should be treated as a conversation and of course the same applies if the other person sends another reply or message. If I reply to a message and then right arrow I can then up arrow and even though I am in the Inbox I then see the message I sent which is located in the Sent Items folder.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 6:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Sieghard:

 

I think you are correct here.

 

My question is when and how do I use the right arrow key to expand the conversation?

 

I haven’t been able to find this option, at least so far.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 12:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hi Tom,

 

I think what is happening here is that when you delete the message which you sent to yourself you are basically deleting the conversation and the conversation includes the message in your Sent Items folder.

Next time try to press the right arrow first to expand the conversation and then only delete the message you received and see if the sent message remains in the Sent Items folder.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2019 8:57 AM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Question On Outlook Message Deletion

 

Hello, everyone.

 

Occasionally, I will copy myself on an Outlook e-mail message, because the message is very important, and I want to be sure it has been sent.

 

Recently, I have noticed that if I delete the received message copy from my inbox, it is also deleted from my sent file.

 

Is there a way I can configure Outlook so that the message remains in my sent file, even though it has been deleted from my inbox?

 

I’m using the Office 365 version of Outlook 2016 with Windows 10 and the latest build of Jaws 2019.

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: Office 365 and Word

Van Lant, Robin
 

Justin,

What version of Word were you using last? That last person who replied to you may well be right that you need to be sure you’ve installed the Word app to your computer, but also know that the interface for Word’s spell checker changed.  In Word 2016, F7 now opens a pane on the right side where you interact.  There has definitely been some chatter on these JAWS lists over various methods for spell checking.  There are some JAWS webinars on using Word 365 that you may find helpful and I’m sure they cover this topic.  The Outlook spell check window is still the old style.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Mcdevitt
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 6:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Office 365 and Word

 

Hello List-members,

 

I just purchased a one-device annual subscription to Office 365 and I notice the Spell-check works differently in Word than is typical of how it operates with Word in the traditional Microsoft Office Suite. In Microsoft Office, after activating Spell-check, any spelling errors were presented immediately and were easily correctable, as is also the case with Outlook.  

Office 365 appears to be busier, where different spelling variations of the word are presented and the real error is not presented right away. There is also more tabbing to find the place to select the correct spelling of the word. I’m not explaining this issue very clearly. Have others using 365 noticed this issue?

 

Best, Justin



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