Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4
Mario
I understand that running JAWS from the systray uses less RAM and is a
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tad quicker to respond to commands. and I guess it's mostely a matter of preference.
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From: James Bentley [mailto:bentleyj1952@att.net] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Thursday, April 18, 2019, 3:34 AM Subject: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 I hate Jaws in the task bar too. And, I'm still curious as to where Jaws runs best. James B -----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 12:29 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 If this is the case I wonder why "Run from system tray" is not checked by default if you install Jaws on a new system. It is always one of the first things I do either manually or in the setup wizard since I hate having Jaws in the taskbar. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 6:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Greetings, Now, you got me curious. FS use to always tell users of Jaws that they will have a better experience if they run Jaws from the system tray. What kind of problems do you run in to if it is run from the system tray. Naturally, we all want Jaws to be as effective and problem free as possible. So, Any advice will be appreciated. Cheers, James B -----Original Message----- From: Dan Longmore Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 5:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Hi, JAWS in the system tray does not always respond well. Best practice in my thought is to quit JAWS with JAWS key and F4. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 9:11 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Are you not running Jaws from the system tray? If doing an insert/jaws key plus J doesn't put you in to the Jaws options, that is telling you that all you need to do is put Jaws in to the system tray. Then, insert/Jaws F4 will work the way you want it to. If you can alt tab to the Jaws options menu, then go in to basics and tab to run Jaws in the system tray and check that check box. Good luck, James B -----Original Message----- From: Rick Mladek Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 6:07 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Hi, I am using latest 2019 JAWS and Windows 10. Working for me... surely must be a setting. Has all been accomplished with obtaining authorization? I am not sure if this works with laptop setting Vs desktop. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of surendra KUMAR GUPTA Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 6:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Yes, I have already tested this one and it works as expected. I just wanted Insert+F4 command to somehow work, but no success so far. On 4/17/19, Rick Mladek <hmladek@neo.rr.com> wrote: Hi Surendra, When you alt tab to the JAWS screen/application, try alt F4 and see if you get the shut down command. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of surendra KUMAR GUPTA Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 5:00 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Hi all, I hope this Email finds you all in good spirit. My friend has recently purchased a laptop equipped with Windows10. Since he is not that tech savvy, he wanted me to install his prefered apps and do all the necessary settings according to his liking. I installed JAWS and NVDA successfully; however, I was unable to perform the Insert+F4 command to quit JAWS by any means, even when setting keyboard layout to laptop. As I hit Caps lock+F4, JAWS speaks "Windows+P" and opens a projection listbox with 4 options like, "Computer only," "Extend" etc. I tried the same via an external USB keyboard, but to no avail. Besides, Application key for bringing up a context menu is non-functional, I can easily launch the same with Shift+F10 though. Now, it really makes me wonder why such a strange is happening. Your tips and tricks will be highly appreciated. -- Regards, Surendra Kumar Gupta Accessibility Testing Engineer, QA InfoTech, http://www.qainfotech.com – An Independent Software Testing and Quality Assurance Company Skype Id: surendrathegreat24 -- Regards, Surendra Kumar Gupta Accessibility Testing Trainee, QA InfoTech, http://www.qainfotech.com – An Independent Software Testing and Quality Assurance Company 100 Best Companies to work for in 2010 and 2011 & 50 Best Companies to work for in 2012 Skype Id: surendrathegreat24 M: 91-8010648093 QA InfoTech is an ISO 9001:2008, CMMi Level 3, ISO 20000-1:2011 and ISO 27001:2005 Compliant Company .
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Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4
Dave Durber
Hello surendra:
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As far as I know, the only way to change the behaviour of the function keys for an HP Laptop, is to have someone with vision go into the BIOS and make the change. If your friend bought the laptop from a local supplier, he/she could take the laptop there and ask them to make the change for them. Sincerely: Dave Durber
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From: "surendra KUMAR GUPTA" <skg.dhanbad@gmail.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 12:45 PM Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 I don't know the exact model number, but he told me that he purchased an HP laptop. On 4/17/19, david <davidmac1957@gmail.com> wrote: Hello; I forgot to mention, if you tell us which model of computer your -- Regards, Surendra Kumar Gupta Accessibility Testing Trainee, QA InfoTech, http://www.qainfotech.com – An Independent Software Testing and Quality Assurance Company 100 Best Companies to work for in 2010 and 2011 & 50 Best Companies to work for in 2012 Skype Id: surendrathegreat24 M: 91-8010648093 QA InfoTech is an ISO 9001:2008, CMMi Level 3, ISO 20000-1:2011 and ISO 27001:2005 Compliant Company
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Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4
David & his pack of dogs
I am using a converted Mac Book pro and have the JAWS settings to function as a desktop computer.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: April 17, 2019 10:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 A wireless keyboard won't solve the issue if your laptop uses the function keys as media keys. If that is the case by default then the function keys on the wireless keyboard will mimic this behaviour. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 8:43 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 I do it the old fashion way. Use a wireless keyboard This way I have the 6 pack of keys and just use the insert or JAWS key with Alt. F4, to close JAWS -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io Sent: April 17, 2019 8:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 The problem is that the laptop has function keys set to be media keys by default. So, you need to press the FN key with the JAWS key and F4. I do this on my personal laptop. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of surendra KUMAR GUPTA Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 4:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Yes, I have already tested this one and it works as expected. I just wanted Insert+F4 command to somehow work, but no success so far. On 4/17/19, Rick Mladek <hmladek@neo.rr.com> wrote: Hi Surendra, -- Regards, Surendra Kumar Gupta Accessibility Testing Trainee, QA InfoTech, http://www.qainfotech.com – An Independent Software Testing and Quality Assurance Company 100 Best Companies to work for in 2010 and 2011 & 50 Best Companies to work for in 2012 Skype Id: surendrathegreat24 M: 91-8010648093 QA InfoTech is an ISO 9001:2008, CMMi Level 3, ISO 20000-1:2011 and ISO 27001:2005 Compliant Company This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to mailto:DNERequests@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4
David & his pack of dogs
The insert key has also been called the JAWS key or NVDA key. Thus we are talking about the same key strokes here. Smile.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david Sent: April 18, 2019 5:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 why do you need to use, jaws/insert key+alt+f4, you should be able to use insert+f4 to unload jaws. this is true whether you use a wireless or not. The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a dream. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 11:43 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 I do it the old fashion way. Use a wireless keyboard This way I have the 6 pack of keys and just use the insert or JAWS key with Alt. F4, to close JAWS -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io Sent: April 17, 2019 8:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 The problem is that the laptop has function keys set to be media keys by default. So, you need to press the FN key with the JAWS key and F4. I do this on my personal laptop. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of surendra KUMAR GUPTA Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 4:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Yes, I have already tested this one and it works as expected. I just wanted Insert+F4 command to somehow work, but no success so far. On 4/17/19, Rick Mladek <hmladek@neo.rr.com> wrote: Hi Surendra, -- Regards, Surendra Kumar Gupta Accessibility Testing Trainee, QA InfoTech, http://www.qainfotech.com – An Independent Software Testing and Quality Assurance Company 100 Best Companies to work for in 2010 and 2011 & 50 Best Companies to work for in 2012 Skype Id: surendrathegreat24 M: 91-8010648093 QA InfoTech is an ISO 9001:2008, CMMi Level 3, ISO 20000-1:2011 and ISO 27001:2005 Compliant Company This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to mailto:DNERequests@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: links not being read in chrome, but being read fine in IE
Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
One other thought. I would mention to the author of the web site they should follow ARIA: Accessible Rich Internet Applications and look at w3.org which Provides information on making sites accessible to the visually impaired as well as other disabilities. The url has information about ARIA and other ways to help make their site accessible. You could even mention that there are about 19 million people in this country with a disability. Not a small market.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of paul lemm
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 7:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: links not being read in chrome, but being read fine in IE
Hi Kevin,
Huge thanks for the reply, that’s actually really helpful to have an understanding of why it’s not working, I can now go back to the author of the site and see if he is able to make the appropriate changes.
Thanks again for the help
Paul
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
I finally took a look at the html on the site. One of the things a developer should do is test their web site on more than one browser. Plus they should have individuals with different disabilities test the site. They probably didn’t think of how a screen reader picks up on text or graphics. The site is using what I think is an attribute I never saw before. I think the internet explorer recognize it and the other browsers do not. I would suggest to them to use the alt attribute. The code uses the alt attribute in other locations. Yet it sets the alt attribute associated value to blank. A screen reader needs the alt attribute to have text.
For example:
Alt=”Facebook”
I hop;e this helps.
Kevin From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
You will hear the following in IE but not Edge, Chrome or Firefox:
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Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4
david
why do you need to use, jaws/insert key+alt+f4,
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you should be able to use insert+f4 to unload jaws. this is true whether you use a wireless or not. The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a dream.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 11:43 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 I do it the old fashion way. Use a wireless keyboard This way I have the 6 pack of keys and just use the insert or JAWS key with Alt. F4, to close JAWS -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io Sent: April 17, 2019 8:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 The problem is that the laptop has function keys set to be media keys by default. So, you need to press the FN key with the JAWS key and F4. I do this on my personal laptop. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of surendra KUMAR GUPTA Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 4:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Yes, I have already tested this one and it works as expected. I just wanted Insert+F4 command to somehow work, but no success so far. On 4/17/19, Rick Mladek <hmladek@neo.rr.com> wrote: Hi Surendra, -- Regards, Surendra Kumar Gupta Accessibility Testing Trainee, QA InfoTech, http://www.qainfotech.com – An Independent Software Testing and Quality Assurance Company 100 Best Companies to work for in 2010 and 2011 & 50 Best Companies to work for in 2012 Skype Id: surendrathegreat24 M: 91-8010648093 QA InfoTech is an ISO 9001:2008, CMMi Level 3, ISO 20000-1:2011 and ISO 27001:2005 Compliant Company This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to mailto:DNERequests@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: links not being read in chrome, but being read fine in IE
paul lemm
Hi Kevin,
Huge thanks for the reply, that’s actually really helpful to have an understanding of why it’s not working, I can now go back to the author of the site and see if he is able to make the appropriate changes.
Thanks again for the help
Paul
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 3:29 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: links not being read in chrome, but being read fine in IE
I finally took a look at the html on the site. One of the things a developer should do is test their web site on more than one browser. Plus they should have individuals with different disabilities test the site. They probably didn’t think of how a screen reader picks up on text or graphics. The site is using what I think is an attribute I never saw before. I think the internet explorer recognize it and the other browsers do not. I would suggest to them to use the alt attribute. The code uses the alt attribute in other locations. Yet it sets the alt attribute associated value to blank. A screen reader needs the alt attribute to have text.
For example:
Alt=”Facebook”
I hop;e this helps.
Kevin From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
You will hear the following in IE but not Edge, Chrome or Firefox:
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JAWS Freezes When Hyperlinking in Word
Rahul Bajaj
Hi,
I use JAWS 2018. I have Word 10 as well as 16. JAWS simply freezes whenever I press control+k and start hyperlinking. In word 16, it still manages to remain afloat and you can turn it back on, but in 2010, it simply stops working completely. NVDA does slightly better, but it freezes a bit as well. Any ideas? Best, RahulJ -- -- Rahul Bajaj Candidate for the BCL Rhodes Scholar (India and Linacre 2018) University of Oxford
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Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4
James Bentley
I hate Jaws in the task bar too. And, I'm still curious as to where Jaws runs best.
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James B
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From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 12:29 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 If this is the case I wonder why "Run from system tray" is not checked by default if you install Jaws on a new system. It is always one of the first things I do either manually or in the setup wizard since I hate having Jaws in the taskbar. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 6:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Greetings, Now, you got me curious. FS use to always tell users of Jaws that they will have a better experience if they run Jaws from the system tray. What kind of problems do you run in to if it is run from the system tray. Naturally, we all want Jaws to be as effective and problem free as possible. So, Any advice will be appreciated. Cheers, James B -----Original Message----- From: Dan Longmore Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 5:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Hi, JAWS in the system tray does not always respond well. Best practice in my thought is to quit JAWS with JAWS key and F4. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 9:11 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Are you not running Jaws from the system tray? If doing an insert/jaws key plus J doesn't put you in to the Jaws options, that is telling you that all you need to do is put Jaws in to the system tray. Then, insert/Jaws F4 will work the way you want it to. If you can alt tab to the Jaws options menu, then go in to basics and tab to run Jaws in the system tray and check that check box. Good luck, James B -----Original Message----- From: Rick Mladek Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 6:07 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Hi, I am using latest 2019 JAWS and Windows 10. Working for me... surely must be a setting. Has all been accomplished with obtaining authorization? I am not sure if this works with laptop setting Vs desktop. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of surendra KUMAR GUPTA Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 6:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Yes, I have already tested this one and it works as expected. I just wanted Insert+F4 command to somehow work, but no success so far. On 4/17/19, Rick Mladek <hmladek@neo.rr.com> wrote: Hi Surendra, -- Regards, Surendra Kumar Gupta Accessibility Testing Trainee, QA InfoTech, http://www.qainfotech.com – An Independent Software Testing and Quality Assurance Company 100 Best Companies to work for in 2010 and 2011 & 50 Best Companies to work for in 2012 Skype Id: surendrathegreat24 M: 91-8010648093 QA InfoTech is an ISO 9001:2008, CMMi Level 3, ISO 20000-1:2011 and ISO 27001:2005 Compliant Company
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Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section
Steve Nutt
Yes, that’s right too.
All the best
Steve
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 17 April 2019 03:12 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws not talking when tabing through the network section
Yes, enter may give you these two options, but selecting the “left double click” option let’s you easily choose a Wi-Fi network if you are at a hotel or somewhere else without ever having to open Network Settings.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Hi,
Again, working for me. I went to the JFW system tray list with JAWS Key and F11, then selected my network, pressed enter, and got Troubleshooting, or Open Network Sharing etc. Everything speaks fine.
All the best
Steve
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Go over to your system tray then arrow to where jaws says your network name and press enter and try to tab around the screen. Jaws 2018 will not say anything unless I turn narrator
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Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4
A wireless keyboard won't solve the issue if your laptop uses the function keys as media keys. If that is the case by default then the function keys on the wireless keyboard will mimic this behaviour.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 8:43 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 I do it the old fashion way. Use a wireless keyboard This way I have the 6 pack of keys and just use the insert or JAWS key with Alt. F4, to close JAWS -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io Sent: April 17, 2019 8:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 The problem is that the laptop has function keys set to be media keys by default. So, you need to press the FN key with the JAWS key and F4. I do this on my personal laptop. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of surendra KUMAR GUPTA Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 4:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Yes, I have already tested this one and it works as expected. I just wanted Insert+F4 command to somehow work, but no success so far. On 4/17/19, Rick Mladek <hmladek@neo.rr.com> wrote: Hi Surendra, -- Regards, Surendra Kumar Gupta Accessibility Testing Trainee, QA InfoTech, http://www.qainfotech.com – An Independent Software Testing and Quality Assurance Company 100 Best Companies to work for in 2010 and 2011 & 50 Best Companies to work for in 2012 Skype Id: surendrathegreat24 M: 91-8010648093 QA InfoTech is an ISO 9001:2008, CMMi Level 3, ISO 20000-1:2011 and ISO 27001:2005 Compliant Company This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to mailto:DNERequests@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4
If this is the case I wonder why "Run from system tray" is not checked by default if you install Jaws on a new system.
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It is always one of the first things I do either manually or in the setup wizard since I hate having Jaws in the taskbar.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 6:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Greetings, Now, you got me curious. FS use to always tell users of Jaws that they will have a better experience if they run Jaws from the system tray. What kind of problems do you run in to if it is run from the system tray. Naturally, we all want Jaws to be as effective and problem free as possible. So, Any advice will be appreciated. Cheers, James B -----Original Message----- From: Dan Longmore Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 5:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Hi, JAWS in the system tray does not always respond well. Best practice in my thought is to quit JAWS with JAWS key and F4. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 9:11 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Are you not running Jaws from the system tray? If doing an insert/jaws key plus J doesn't put you in to the Jaws options, that is telling you that all you need to do is put Jaws in to the system tray. Then, insert/Jaws F4 will work the way you want it to. If you can alt tab to the Jaws options menu, then go in to basics and tab to run Jaws in the system tray and check that check box. Good luck, James B -----Original Message----- From: Rick Mladek Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 6:07 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Hi, I am using latest 2019 JAWS and Windows 10. Working for me... surely must be a setting. Has all been accomplished with obtaining authorization? I am not sure if this works with laptop setting Vs desktop. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of surendra KUMAR GUPTA Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 6:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Yes, I have already tested this one and it works as expected. I just wanted Insert+F4 command to somehow work, but no success so far. On 4/17/19, Rick Mladek <hmladek@neo.rr.com> wrote: Hi Surendra, -- Regards, Surendra Kumar Gupta Accessibility Testing Trainee, QA InfoTech, http://www.qainfotech.com – An Independent Software Testing and Quality Assurance Company 100 Best Companies to work for in 2010 and 2011 & 50 Best Companies to work for in 2012 Skype Id: surendrathegreat24 M: 91-8010648093 QA InfoTech is an ISO 9001:2008, CMMi Level 3, ISO 20000-1:2011 and ISO 27001:2005 Compliant Company
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Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4
David & his pack of dogs
I do it the old fashion way. Use a wireless keyboard This way I have the 6 pack of keys and just use the insert or JAWS key with Alt. F4, to close JAWS
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io Sent: April 17, 2019 8:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 The problem is that the laptop has function keys set to be media keys by default. So, you need to press the FN key with the JAWS key and F4. I do this on my personal laptop. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of surendra KUMAR GUPTA Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 4:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Yes, I have already tested this one and it works as expected. I just wanted Insert+F4 command to somehow work, but no success so far. On 4/17/19, Rick Mladek <hmladek@neo.rr.com> wrote: Hi Surendra, -- Regards, Surendra Kumar Gupta Accessibility Testing Trainee, QA InfoTech, http://www.qainfotech.com – An Independent Software Testing and Quality Assurance Company 100 Best Companies to work for in 2010 and 2011 & 50 Best Companies to work for in 2012 Skype Id: surendrathegreat24 M: 91-8010648093 QA InfoTech is an ISO 9001:2008, CMMi Level 3, ISO 20000-1:2011 and ISO 27001:2005 Compliant Company This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to mailto:DNERequests@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: links not being read in chrome, but being read fine in IE
Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
I finally took a look at the html on the site. One of the things a developer should do is test their web site on more than one browser. Plus they should have individuals with different disabilities test the site. They probably didn’t think of how a screen reader picks up on text or graphics. The site is using what I think is an attribute I never saw before. I think the internet explorer recognize it and the other browsers do not. I would suggest to them to use the alt attribute. The code uses the alt attribute in other locations. Yet it sets the alt attribute associated value to blank. A screen reader needs the alt attribute to have text.
For example:
Alt=”Facebook”
I hop;e this helps.
Kevin
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 8:14 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: links not being read in chrome, but being read fine in IE
You will hear the following in IE but not Edge, Chrome or Firefox:
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Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4
James Bentley
Greetings,
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Now, you got me curious. FS use to always tell users of Jaws that they will have a better experience if they run Jaws from the system tray. What kind of problems do you run in to if it is run from the system tray. Naturally, we all want Jaws to be as effective and problem free as possible. So, Any advice will be appreciated. Cheers, James B
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From: Dan Longmore Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 5:21 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Hi, JAWS in the system tray does not always respond well. Best practice in my thought is to quit JAWS with JAWS key and F4. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 9:11 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Are you not running Jaws from the system tray? If doing an insert/jaws key plus J doesn't put you in to the Jaws options, that is telling you that all you need to do is put Jaws in to the system tray. Then, insert/Jaws F4 will work the way you want it to. If you can alt tab to the Jaws options menu, then go in to basics and tab to run Jaws in the system tray and check that check box. Good luck, James B -----Original Message----- From: Rick Mladek Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 6:07 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Hi, I am using latest 2019 JAWS and Windows 10. Working for me... surely must be a setting. Has all been accomplished with obtaining authorization? I am not sure if this works with laptop setting Vs desktop. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of surendra KUMAR GUPTA Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 6:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Yes, I have already tested this one and it works as expected. I just wanted Insert+F4 command to somehow work, but no success so far. On 4/17/19, Rick Mladek <hmladek@neo.rr.com> wrote: Hi Surendra, -- Regards, Surendra Kumar Gupta Accessibility Testing Trainee, QA InfoTech, http://www.qainfotech.com – An Independent Software Testing and Quality Assurance Company 100 Best Companies to work for in 2010 and 2011 & 50 Best Companies to work for in 2012 Skype Id: surendrathegreat24 M: 91-8010648093 QA InfoTech is an ISO 9001:2008, CMMi Level 3, ISO 20000-1:2011 and ISO 27001:2005 Compliant Company
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Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4
Dan Longmore
Hi,
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JAWS in the system tray does not always respond well. Best practice in my thought is to quit JAWS with JAWS key and F4.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Bentley Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 9:11 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Are you not running Jaws from the system tray? If doing an insert/jaws key plus J doesn't put you in to the Jaws options, that is telling you that all you need to do is put Jaws in to the system tray. Then, insert/Jaws F4 will work the way you want it to. If you can alt tab to the Jaws options menu, then go in to basics and tab to run Jaws in the system tray and check that check box. Good luck, James B -----Original Message----- From: Rick Mladek Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 6:07 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Hi, I am using latest 2019 JAWS and Windows 10. Working for me... surely must be a setting. Has all been accomplished with obtaining authorization? I am not sure if this works with laptop setting Vs desktop. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of surendra KUMAR GUPTA Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 6:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Yes, I have already tested this one and it works as expected. I just wanted Insert+F4 command to somehow work, but no success so far. On 4/17/19, Rick Mladek <hmladek@neo.rr.com> wrote: Hi Surendra, -- Regards, Surendra Kumar Gupta Accessibility Testing Trainee, QA InfoTech, http://www.qainfotech.com – An Independent Software Testing and Quality Assurance Company 100 Best Companies to work for in 2010 and 2011 & 50 Best Companies to work for in 2012 Skype Id: surendrathegreat24 M: 91-8010648093 QA InfoTech is an ISO 9001:2008, CMMi Level 3, ISO 20000-1:2011 and ISO 27001:2005 Compliant Company
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Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4
Van Lant, Robin
I have an HP laptop at home and it can be really odd as to when you have to push the FN key and when you don't. I really need to take note of it to figure out the pattern, but I am positive that this is the person's issue.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 11:08 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Not sure if the function keys acting as media keys is the problem since the original poster said Shift + F10 works to bring up the context menu. If the function keys didn't work, then it should be necessary to also press FN + Shift + f10. Anyhow, it's easy to try this, just press FN + Jaws Key + F4 and see if that works, if it does then the issue is definitely in the function keys. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 8:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 The problem is that the laptop has function keys set to be media keys by default. So, you need to press the FN key with the JAWS key and F4. I do this on my personal laptop. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of surendra KUMAR GUPTA Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 4:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Yes, I have already tested this one and it works as expected. I just wanted Insert+F4 command to somehow work, but no success so far. On 4/17/19, Rick Mladek <hmladek@neo.rr.com> wrote: Hi Surendra, -- Regards, Surendra Kumar Gupta Accessibility Testing Trainee, QA InfoTech, http://www.qainfotech.com – An Independent Software Testing and Quality Assurance Company 100 Best Companies to work for in 2010 and 2011 & 50 Best Companies to work for in 2012 Skype Id: surendrathegreat24 M: 91-8010648093 QA InfoTech is an ISO 9001:2008, CMMi Level 3, ISO 20000-1:2011 and ISO 27001:2005 Compliant Company This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to mailto:DNERequests@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: zipping files
JM Casey
There can be some advantages to using a third-party programme, even though Windows now natively supports compressed archives in the zip format at least.
Some of the third party programmes provide more context menu/shell options. These can tell the programme how to extract the files and where to place them, etc, without having to actually use that programme’s interface. Winrar, and, I guess, 7zip too, offers a lot of flexibility when it comes to archiving. You can compress as much or as little as you want (or at least as much as the compression algorithms allows). I don’t know what Windows uses by default, but just for Zip archives, I am offered four different levels, from greatest to least compression. You can also set passwords for the archive, which is not something that Windows allows, or if it does, it’s not immediately apparent.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: April 16, 2019 10:13 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: zipping files
Perhaps not anymore. I just have always used it and besides if you need advanced features this will do them.
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Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4
Not sure if the function keys acting as media keys is the problem since the original poster said Shift + F10 works to bring up the context menu. If the function keys didn't work, then it should be necessary to also press FN + Shift + f10. Anyhow, it's easy to try this, just press FN + Jaws Key + F4 and see if that works, if it does then the issue is definitely in the function keys.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 8:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 The problem is that the laptop has function keys set to be media keys by default. So, you need to press the FN key with the JAWS key and F4. I do this on my personal laptop. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of surendra KUMAR GUPTA Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 4:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Unable to quit JAWS using Insert+F4 Yes, I have already tested this one and it works as expected. I just wanted Insert+F4 command to somehow work, but no success so far. On 4/17/19, Rick Mladek <hmladek@neo.rr.com> wrote: Hi Surendra, -- Regards, Surendra Kumar Gupta Accessibility Testing Trainee, QA InfoTech, http://www.qainfotech.com – An Independent Software Testing and Quality Assurance Company 100 Best Companies to work for in 2010 and 2011 & 50 Best Companies to work for in 2012 Skype Id: surendrathegreat24 M: 91-8010648093 QA InfoTech is an ISO 9001:2008, CMMi Level 3, ISO 20000-1:2011 and ISO 27001:2005 Compliant Company This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to mailto:DNERequests@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: Major problem
Tyler Wood
Hi,
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This is a jaws issue and has been for quite a while. Hit alt, shift, windows, capslock all at once and that should clear things up for quite a while.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: April 17, 2019 12:05 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Major problem Try a new keyboard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 8:10 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Major problem Yes, I thought I was accidentally hitting caps lock somehow, but maybe that's not the case. I'm also seeing where JAWS says that I have control and/or alt held down. I just had this happen and tried someone's idea of hitting the left and right Alt keys repeateadly back and forth and surprisingly, that cleared it. I then did it with the control key and, again, it seemed to clear the issue. ItCertainly is an odd issue. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Zel Iscel Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 9:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Major problem Hi there, Yes I have the same problem now and again and find that I have to restart the computer in order to resolve it. Cheers Zel -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Lockwood Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2019 9:53 AM To: Jaws JFW <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Major problem I am running windows 10 and have jaws 2018 and 2019 most up-to-date version. I have an Alienware R17 laptop. I am having a problem where Jaws is acting like the shift key is held down. However it is physically not held down. Is anyone else experienced this problem? This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to mailto:DNERequests@key.com with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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