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Re: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Whatever it ends up being called, I'm sure it will be more bloated with bells and whistles, run a little slower, etc. :)


Re: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Alex Stone <alex.stone@...>
 

Dorothy, Yes I'm sure I read somewhere last year that there wasn't going to
be a Jaws 13, which just goes to show you should never listen to rumours.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dorothy
Sent: 12 July 2011 23:17
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Getting phone numbers read is hell,in Uk to ring USA you remove the first
number then add 001 and like as not finish up speaking to a stranger, and
the brackets are a nuisance a friend now using Jaws once worked as a
telephonist years ago he said he could memorise long numbers spoken as no
computers then, anddid not make mistakes, why I can only just remember next
version of jaws is number13, and was told it was going to skip toJaws14
sender said in Hotels they never have a floor that is13,but jump to14 from
12 I have never noticed that in the UK butvcounting is a gift I do not have,
never trust people who say there are ten stairs, they always miscount and I
have injuries to prove that! Sorry about that!
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: 12 July 2011 21:16
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Ann, thanks actually with keyboard echo set to Words I actually had to turn
OFF smart reading. Sounds weird but it worked.
Thanks
Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

turn on smart reading. That's supposed to treat a phone number as a single
unit.
At 07:19 AM 7/12/2011, you wrote:
The hyphens tell JAWS to separate the three sets of numbers. You would
need to write all ten digits without any separators, including spaces.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Hi all can anyone tell me what number processing options need to be set
to have JFW read a phone number as one word. For example if I type
617-222-2345 I don't want JFW to speak at all until after I typed the
5.
Hope that makes snese.
Frank


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Re: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

Getting phone numbers read is hell,in Uk to ring USA you remove the first
number then add 001 and like as not finish up speaking to a stranger, and
the brackets are a nuisance a friend now using Jaws once worked as a
telephonist years ago he said he could memorise long numbers spoken as no
computers then, anddid not make mistakes, why I can only just remember next
version of jaws is number13, and was told it was going to skip toJaws14
sender said in Hotels they never have a floor that is13,but jump to14 from
12 I have never noticed that in the UK butvcounting is a gift I do not have,
never trust people who say there are ten stairs, they always miscount and I
have injuries to prove that! Sorry about that!

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: 12 July 2011 21:16
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Ann, thanks actually with keyboard echo set to Words I actually had to
turn OFF smart reading. Sounds weird but it worked.
Thanks
Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

turn on smart reading. That's supposed to treat a phone number as a
single unit.
At 07:19 AM 7/12/2011, you wrote:
The hyphens tell JAWS to separate the three sets of numbers. You would
need to write all ten digits without any separators, including spaces.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Hi all can anyone tell me what number processing options need to be set
to have JFW read a phone number as one word. For example if I type
617-222-2345 I don't want JFW to speak at all until after I typed the
5.
Hope that makes snese.
Frank


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CRM applications

Bruce MacKenzie <bruce@...>
 

I looking for feedback in regards to CRM (Client/Customer Relationship
Management) software programs that work well with JAWS (with or without
scripts).

Bruce



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Re: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Frank Ventura
 

Ann, thanks actually with keyboard echo set to Words I actually had to
turn OFF smart reading. Sounds weird but it worked.
Thanks
Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

turn on smart reading. That's supposed to treat a phone number as a
single unit.
At 07:19 AM 7/12/2011, you wrote:
The hyphens tell JAWS to separate the three sets of numbers. You would
need to write all ten digits without any separators, including spaces.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Hi all can anyone tell me what number processing options need to be set
to have JFW read a phone number as one word. For example if I type
617-222-2345 I don't want JFW to speak at all until after I typed the
5.
Hope that makes snese.
Frank


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Re: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

julie <memphis.magnolia@...>
 

Thank you, tracked it down and it was on by default.
Smiles,
Julie


Re: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Mike & Barbara In Arcadia <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Julie,

This was posted earlier from David.

From: David
Hello there;

I believe the
Smart word reading is on by default,
You find this setting by pressing,
Insert+v=adjust jaws options,
Now press the letter "s", until you hear,
Smart word reading,
It's probably set to on. Press the spacebar to turn it off.
David

To do this in the default configuration manager do the following;

1. Press Insert / Jaws key + 6 on the number row or press Insert / Jaws key
+ F2 key, arrow down to Settings Center & press enter.
2. Press control, shift, + D, for default settings center.
3. Arrow down to Text Processing & press right arrow to open.
4. Arrow down 1 time to General & right arrow to open.
5. Arrow down to smart word reading, if this box is unchecked, press the
spacebar to check it, & tab to okay, press enter to save the changes &
close.

Hope this helps. Take care.
mike

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To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word


Where do you find this checkbox in jfw12 to enable the smart word command?
Thank you.


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Re: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

julie <memphis.magnolia@...>
 

This is very helpful. Thank you so much.


Re: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

To adjust smart word reading a little more globally (and permanently), go to settings center (one way is with insert plus F-2 and then "S" until you hear "Settings Center")
In the Settings Center search box, type "SMART"
It was on by default.
I just checked.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:47 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Hello there;

I believe the
Smart word reading is on by default,
You find this setting by pressing,
Insert+v=adjust jaws options,
Now press the letter "s", until you hear,
Smart word reading,
It's probably set to on.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Ann byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

turn on smart reading. That's supposed to treat a phone number as a
single unit.
At 07:19 AM 7/12/2011, you wrote:
The hyphens tell JAWS to separate the three sets of numbers. You would need
to write all ten digits without any separators, including spaces.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Hi all can anyone tell me what number processing options need to be set
to have JFW read a phone number as one word. For example if I type
617-222-2345 I don't want JFW to speak at all until after I typed the 5.
Hope that makes snese.
Frank


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Smart Word Reading Explained

Mike & Barbara In Arcadia <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi all,

Thank you Ann for mentioning this little known option . Below is what
Jaws10 & Jaws12 says about Smart Word Reading. I included both because
Jaws10 explains it much better & there might be some list members who don't
have Jaws10 installed

Jaws10;
In previous JAWS releases, when issuing the Say Word command, JAWS would
only read the current word or character when the cursor was positioned on a
text

unit,

such as a compound word, telephone number, date, time, or math equation.
With Smart Word Reading enabled, JAWS now reads the entire text

unit when the Say Word command is issued.



Note: Cursor movement is controlled by the application. So, if Microsoft
Word's cursor normally navigates the entire

text unit as one word or number, then JAWS will read it the same way.
Likewise, if an application, such as WordPad,

navigates through each component of the text unit, then JAWS will read it
the same way.



For example, in the sentence, "She is my sister-in-law," if the cursor is
placed anywhere on the word "sister," JAWS would say "sister." However,

with Smart Word Reading, JAWS will now say the entire compound word,
"sister-in-law."



Likewise, in the sentence, "The appointment was at 2:00 P.M.," JAWS would
say "colon" if the cursor was placed between the digit 2 and the colon.

Now with Smart Word Reading enabled, JAWS will say the entire text unit as
two o'clock.



As a final example, let's look at how JAWS reads a telephone number. If the
cursor is placed between the dash and the 444 in the telephone number
1-800-444-4443,

previous JAWS versions would say, "444." With Smart Word Reading enabled,
JAWS reads the entire telephone number as, "1-800-444-4443."



Jaws12;


Select this check box to have JAWS read the entire text unit, such as a
compound word, telephone number, date, time, or math equation, when using
the Say
Word command. Note: Cursor movement is controlled by the application. So,
if Microsoft Word's cursor normally navigates the entire text unit as one
word
or number, then the text is read in the same way. Likewise, if an
application, such as WordPad, navigates through each component of the text
unit, then
JAWS will read it the same way. This check box is selected by default.

Hope this helps. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Ann byrne
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:41 AM
Subject: RE: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word


turn on smart reading. That's supposed to treat a phone number as a
single unit.
At 07:19 AM 7/12/2011, you wrote:
>The hyphens tell JAWS to separate the three sets of numbers. You would
need
>to write all ten digits without any separators, including spaces.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
>On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:44 AM
>To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>Subject: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word
>
>Hi all can anyone tell me what number processing options need to be set
>to have JFW read a phone number as one word. For example if I type
>617-222-2345 I don't want JFW to speak at all until after I typed the 5.
>Hope that makes snese.
>Frank
>
>
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Article on Screen Reader Reading Speeds

Mike & Barbara In Arcadia <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,

I found the information below interesting & thought the list might as well,
since this topic was recently discussed.

This just came across my desk as things do from time to time and it's
something that a few of you might just find interesting as I did after
reading it.




David Ferrin
http://www.jaws-users.com



***



Listening Speeds Approximation with Window-Eyes and JAWS Screen Reader
Practice Text Documents




Listening Speeds Approximation with Window-Eyes and JAWS




Methodology







In order to determine an approximate words-per-minute test for a screen
reader, we used this process:




1. The screen reader's speed was set to a chosen percentage.




2. A long document was selected of sufficient length for the "Read All"



command to be invoked without running out of text in a two-minute reading
session.




3. A timer was set for two minutes.




4. The timer and the "Read All" command were invoked at the same time.




5. The "Read All" command was stopped when the timer expired.




6. The rest of the document was selected and deleted.




7. The Microsoft Word "Word Count" command was invoked.




8. The number of characters without spaces were found.




9. This number was placed into Windows Calculator.




10. The number was divided by 5 to obtain an approximate average length of
five characters. (Five characters is the average word length in American



English.)




11. The result of this was divided by two to obtain average words per
minute.




12. The deleted text was restored and the process repeated for another speed
rate.




Known factors which influence speed outcomes:




1. By default, the screen reader pauses for a fraction of a second at
sentence punctuation marks, such as commas and periods, in order to give a
better reading experience. This would tend to give a slightly slower average
speed for each percentage.




2. In calculating the number of characters, punctuation of all kinds,
including quotation marks, dashes, and sentence punctuation and other
printable characters were included (spaces were excluded). This would tend
to give a higher character count, and therefore, a higher average speed.



Though this has not been tested, the assumption is that the two variables
tend to cancel out one another.




3. Different versions of the Eloquence synthesizer have yielded different
results. Both Window-Eyes and JAWS have included a proprietary version of
Eloquence within their screen reader in recent releases. These versions have
yielded higher rates from the nonproprietary versions.




4. Probably related to the previous point, we found that current versions
of these two screen readers produced markedly different reading rates at the
same percentages.




The test was performed for Window-Eyes 7 and JAWS 11 with their own
proprietary version of Eloquence.




Comparison Tables




Percent



Window-Eyes 7



JAWS 11




60%



346.3



524.7




50%



251.6



437.4




40%



196.5



344.5




30%



135.3



284.1




20%



107.8



224








Percent



NVDA




95%



400




58%



300




27%



200



NVDA: Non-Visual Desktop Access



Hope you enjoyed this article. Take care.

Mike








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Re: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello there;

I believe the
Smart word reading is on by default,
You find this setting by pressing,
Insert+v=adjust jaws options,
Now press the letter "s", until you hear,
Smart word reading,
It's probably set to on.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Ann byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

turn on smart reading. That's supposed to treat a phone number as a
single unit.
At 07:19 AM 7/12/2011, you wrote:
The hyphens tell JAWS to separate the three sets of numbers. You would need
to write all ten digits without any separators, including spaces.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Hi all can anyone tell me what number processing options need to be set
to have JFW read a phone number as one word. For example if I type
617-222-2345 I don't want JFW to speak at all until after I typed the 5.
Hope that makes snese.
Frank


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Re: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

julie <memphis.magnolia@...>
 

Where do you find this checkbox in jfw12 to enable the smart word command? Thank you.


Virtualize Current Control

Mike & Barbara In Arcadia <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,

I understand what virtualizing the current window means but, what does
virtualizing the current control mean? All advice will get pounded into my
thick skull! Thanks much, take care.
Mike
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Re: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Mike & Barbara In Arcadia <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi all,

Thank you Ann for mentioning this little known option . Below is what
Jaws10 & Jaws12 says about Smart Word Reading. I included both because
Jaws10 explains it much better & there might be some list members who don't
have Jaws10 installed

Jaws10;
In previous JAWS releases, when issuing the Say Word command, JAWS would
only read the current word or character when the cursor was positioned on a
text

unit,

such as a compound word, telephone number, date, time, or math equation.
With Smart Word Reading enabled, JAWS now reads the entire text

unit when the Say Word command is issued.



Note: Cursor movement is controlled by the application. So, if Microsoft
Word's cursor normally navigates the entire

text unit as one word or number, then JAWS will read it the same way.
Likewise, if an application, such as WordPad,

navigates through each component of the text unit, then JAWS will read it
the same way.



For example, in the sentence, "She is my sister-in-law," if the cursor is
placed anywhere on the word "sister," JAWS would say "sister." However,

with Smart Word Reading, JAWS will now say the entire compound word,
"sister-in-law."



Likewise, in the sentence, "The appointment was at 2:00 P.M.," JAWS would
say "colon" if the cursor was placed between the digit 2 and the colon.

Now with Smart Word Reading enabled, JAWS will say the entire text unit as
two o'clock.



As a final example, let's look at how JAWS reads a telephone number. If the
cursor is placed between the dash and the 444 in the telephone number
1-800-444-4443,

previous JAWS versions would say, "444." With Smart Word Reading enabled,
JAWS reads the entire telephone number as, "1-800-444-4443."



Jaws12;


Select this check box to have JAWS read the entire text unit, such as a
compound word, telephone number, date, time, or math equation, when using
the Say
Word command. Note: Cursor movement is controlled by the application. So,
if Microsoft Word's cursor normally navigates the entire text unit as one
word
or number, then the text is read in the same way. Likewise, if an
application, such as WordPad, navigates through each component of the text
unit, then
JAWS will read it the same way. This check box is selected by default.

Hope this helps. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Ann byrne
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:41 AM
Subject: RE: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word


turn on smart reading. That's supposed to treat a phone number as a
single unit.
At 07:19 AM 7/12/2011, you wrote:
>The hyphens tell JAWS to separate the three sets of numbers. You would
need
>to write all ten digits without any separators, including spaces.
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Hi all can anyone tell me what number processing options need to be set
>to have JFW read a phone number as one word. For example if I type
>617-222-2345 I don't want JFW to speak at all until after I typed the 5.
>Hope that makes snese.
>Frank
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Re: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Ann Byrne
 

turn on smart reading. That's supposed to treat a phone number as a single unit.

At 07:19 AM 7/12/2011, you wrote:
The hyphens tell JAWS to separate the three sets of numbers. You would need
to write all ten digits without any separators, including spaces.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Hi all can anyone tell me what number processing options need to be set
to have JFW read a phone number as one word. For example if I type
617-222-2345 I don't want JFW to speak at all until after I typed the 5.
Hope that makes snese.
Frank


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Re: [Bulk] IE 9

Rose Combs <rosecombs@...>
 

I installed IE 9 Sunday and so far have had good luck, but, I have not
really used it much so far.


Rose Combs
rosecombs@Q.com

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 7:38 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] IE 9

I've been finding IE9 has been crashing a lot lately but I never put it down
to JAWS. Not sure when it started, perhaps it was after the most recent JAWS
update but I'm not sure.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:22 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] IE 9

Hi Peter

Since installing the latest JFW, IE9 would hang, and sometimes crash.

Edit fields such as may be found on m.facebook.com wouldn't work in some
cases.

When in forms mode, it was not possible to review the contents of these
fields using the arrow keys.

Also, in certain cases, combo boxes would not read whilst in forms mode.

Jaws would sit mute as the combo box was scrolled, yet exiting forms mode
and reviewing the combo box would reveal the selection made.

On certain occasions, JAWS would refuse to read the IE8 window in its
entirety, stubbornly saying blank.

Finally, I'd get an out of memory error after a browsing session when
opening windows explorer in certain situations, strange as I have 8GB of RAM
on board.

I've given up, and having reverted back to IE8, all seems fine again.

It could be my machine of course, but I do all the investigative stuff at
work in the week, I simply can't be bothered to take it up at home too.

I'm mindful that I may be doing JAWS a disservice.

T

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: 10 July 2011 10:09
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] IE 9

Is that with the latest version of JAWS? What problems are you having? I
have noticed since the latest jaws update that the download manager doesn't
seem to be working the same.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 7:45 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] IE 9

I've just kicked it in to touch, on my 64 bit machine at least, JFW and IE9
appears to be a work in progress.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: 09 July 2011 18:55
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] IE 9

Babysit it? I'm not aware of anyone who has had any problems with any
websites and IE9.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Rose Combs
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 6:29 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] IE 9

I have refused it partly because I don't have the time to babysit it at this
moment.


Rose Combs
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 2:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] IE 9

Dave, just curious why you would 'definately continue to refuse it'?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:14 PM
To: 'Farfar on Laptop' ; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: [Bulk] IE 9

Thanks, I forgot about that setting, I know I had it set in an earlier
version years ago.


Rose Combs
rosecombs@Q.com

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 10:33 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] IE 9

Rose,

I would definitely continue to refuse it.

You can turn this off in Internet Explorer ... Tools/Options. Then Advanced
Page. In the list look for Browsing. Then right under that, turn off the
option to automatically check for IE updates.

Then OK to close.

Dave Carlson
Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio
Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@q.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 10:22
Subject: [Bulk] IE 9


Update keeps bugging me to install IE 9. for those of you who have done so,
should I keep ignoring the message. Using Windows 7, 64.bit latest update
of Jaws, with their quirky number system I won't even try to say which
number, just the latest available last week should help anyone who really
wants to know. I keep unchecking this but it refuses to leave me alone, and
I am not sure I want the 9 version at this point.


Rose Combs
rosecombs@Q.com


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Crystal French
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Is there anyone out there?

Yes, John. I'm here, and I'm sure the world is still turning. <smile>

And, now, I'm off to install the latest Jaws 12.

So, let's hope that doesn't blow things up.

Crystal

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Martyn" <johnrobertmartyn@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 1:41 PM
Subject: Is there anyone out there?


Is the list still active or just very few people subscribed to it? I
haven't seen it this quiet in a... well, never.
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Re: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Adrian Spratt
 

The hyphens tell JAWS to separate the three sets of numbers. You would need
to write all ten digits without any separators, including spaces.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:44 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Hi all can anyone tell me what number processing options need to be set
to have JFW read a phone number as one word. For example if I type
617-222-2345 I don't want JFW to speak at all until after I typed the 5.
Hope that makes snese.
Frank


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Having JFW 12 read a phone number as one word

Frank Ventura
 

Hi all can anyone tell me what number processing options need to be set
to have JFW read a phone number as one word. For example if I type
617-222-2345 I don't want JFW to speak at all until after I typed the 5.
Hope that makes snese.
Frank


Re: accessible sip client

Brandon McGinty
 

I've found NCH Talk rather usable. Dialing * and # aren't supported from
the keyboard, but scripting can be used to click those buttons, if I recall.

Brandon McGinty-Carroll

On 7/11/2011 4:41 PM, Kristoffer Gustafsson wrote:
Hi.
I'm thinking of buying ip telephony.
What programs is accesible with jaws when using the sip protocol?
/Kristoffer
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