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Re: using capslock with the desktop layout.

Van Lant, Robin
 

But when I used caps lock in desktop mode, it seemed that the insert key not longer acted as a JAWS key. I want both to be a JAWS key, since it's sometimes easier to hit one over the other for certain commands. That's why I ended up switching to the laptop layout.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 2:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: useing capslock with the desktop layout.

Ah yes, good thinking.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: February 14, 2019 4:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: useing capslock with the desktop layout.

you can use the capslock for the jaws key without haveing to change to the laptop layout.
on the other hand if you do this you have to use alt capslock when you really need to turn capslock on or off in this mode.
***
open the jaws settings center. then tab to the applications list and move to default all.
then , in the search box type desktop layout.
click on jaws desktop layout. you will find the option use insert. press the space bar on it to change it to capslock, . and save the changes.
then you can use capslock control f.
to use the capslock for your applications you have to press alt capslock to turn the actual capslock on or off.
-----Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 12:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox

Or you could try the laptop layout. Then you wouldn't have to use that right hand little finger.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Rogers
Sent: February 14, 2019 2:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox

There is a "sticky key" function with Jaws that allows you to press insert, then another key using one hand.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 19:07:24 -0000
"Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello there:

Due to an injury to the little finger on my right hand, I find
pressing
keystrokes such as INSERT+CTRL a problem. Not only that, when you press
CTRL+F and type a search term on a page, I find that when you press
CTRL+ENTER,
to activate the search function, it does not appear to take you to the result, if it finds it!

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "JM Casey" <jmcasey@teksavvy.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox


Yeah, ctrl-f activates the browser's find function and not JAWS's, I
noticed that as well. That's actually ok I think as that's the way
browsers are meant to function. Is it that much of a pain for you to
use insert-ctrl-f instead? You already have to do this in for
examplea dobe reader...

That said I'm sure you could remap the keystroke somehow. I don't
think jAWS has separate keyboard/script files for waterfox, and
that's why the virtual find doesn't work the same. You could
probably create one if you watned to.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave
Durber
Sent: February 14, 2019 11:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using Waterfox

Hello everyone:

Using Windows 7 and JAWS Version 2018, I installed WaterFox on one
of my computers this morning.

So far, I have found one irritating thing, that is, When I press
CTRL+F, JAWS now says, "Search in page", followed by the word edit.

How can I apply the keystroke, INSERT+CTRL+F, which is the JAWS
search command to CTRL+F, instead.

So far, with the limited use I have had using this browser, I am
liking its speed and accessing the web pages I have visited.

Thank you in anticipation for any suggestions.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber





















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Re: What happened to Doug Geoffray,

Jason White
 

Does anyone else remember that he wrote WordTalk (Computer Aids Corporation, mid 1980s, word processor for Apple II systems)?

 

From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
Reply-To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 12:12
To: "main@jfw.groups.io" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: What happened to Doug Geoffray,

 

 

Doug is a program manager with the Narrator team at Microsoft and will be at CSUN.

Here is a link to the Microsoft Accessibility blog:

 

 

Richard

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker

 


On Feb 14, 2019, at 7:30 AM, Tom Lange <lange85@...> wrote:

Hi,
I’d heard that He’s now at Microsoft but I wasn’t sure in what capacity. I wonder if he’s somehow responsible for the progress made with Narrator. With Doug at the helm, good things are surely in store. I wish him all the best.



On Feb 14, 2019, at 7:11 AM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

 

I have found that he is now a Senior Program Manager at Microsoft

 

On 2/14/2019 9:10 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

No.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H

Sent: 14 February 2019 14:52

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: What happened to Doug Geoffray,

After the demise of Window Eyes what happen to Doug Geoffray?  Is he still part of VFO

 

 

 

 
Re: useing capslock with the desktop layout.

JM Casey
 

Ah yes, good thinking.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: February 14, 2019 4:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: useing capslock with the desktop layout.

you can use the capslock for the jaws key without haveing to change to the laptop layout.
on the other hand if you do this you have to use alt capslock when you really need to turn capslock on or off in this mode.
***
open the jaws settings center. then tab to the applications list and move to default all.
then , in the search box type desktop layout.
click on jaws desktop layout. you will find the option use insert. press the space bar on it to change it to capslock, . and save the changes.
then you can use capslock control f.
to use the capslock for your applications you have to press alt capslock to turn the actual capslock on or off.
-----Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 12:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox

Or you could try the laptop layout. Then you wouldn't have to use that right hand little finger.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Rogers
Sent: February 14, 2019 2:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox

There is a "sticky key" function with Jaws that allows you to press insert, then another key using one hand.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 19:07:24 -0000
"Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello there:

Due to an injury to the little finger on my right hand, I find
pressing
keystrokes such as INSERT+CTRL a problem. Not only that, when you press
CTRL+F and type a search term on a page, I find that when you press
CTRL+ENTER,
to activate the search function, it does not appear to take you to the result, if it finds it!

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "JM Casey" <jmcasey@teksavvy.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox


Yeah, ctrl-f activates the browser's find function and not JAWS's, I
noticed that as well. That's actually ok I think as that's the way
browsers are meant to function. Is it that much of a pain for you to
use insert-ctrl-f instead? You already have to do this in for
examplea dobe reader...

That said I'm sure you could remap the keystroke somehow. I don't
think jAWS has separate keyboard/script files for waterfox, and
that's why the virtual find doesn't work the same. You could
probably create one if you watned to.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave
Durber
Sent: February 14, 2019 11:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using Waterfox

Hello everyone:

Using Windows 7 and JAWS Version 2018, I installed WaterFox on one
of my computers this morning.

So far, I have found one irritating thing, that is, When I press
CTRL+F, JAWS now says, "Search in page", followed by the word edit.

How can I apply the keystroke, INSERT+CTRL+F, which is the JAWS
search command to CTRL+F, instead.

So far, with the limited use I have had using this browser, I am
liking its speed and accessing the web pages I have visited.

Thank you in anticipation for any suggestions.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber
useing capslock with the desktop layout.

netbat66
 

you can use the capslock for the jaws key without haveing to change to the
laptop layout.
on the other hand if you do this you have to use alt capslock when you really
need to turn capslock on or off in this mode.
***
open the jaws settings center. then tab to the applications list and move to
default all.
then , in the search box type desktop layout.
click on jaws desktop layout. you will find the option use insert. press the
space bar on it to change it to capslock, . and save the changes.
then you can use capslock control f.
to use the capslock for your applications you have to press alt capslock to
turn the actual capslock on or off.

-----Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 12:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox

Or you could try the laptop layout. Then you wouldn't have to use that right
hand little finger.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Rogers
Sent: February 14, 2019 2:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox

There is a "sticky key" function with Jaws that allows you to press insert,
then another key using one hand.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 19:07:24 -0000
"Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello there:

Due to an injury to the little finger on my right hand, I find pressing
keystrokes such as INSERT+CTRL a problem. Not only that, when you press
CTRL+F and type a search term on a page, I find that when you press ENTER,
to activate the search function, it does not appear to take you to the
result, if it finds it!

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "JM Casey" <jmcasey@teksavvy.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox


Yeah, ctrl-f activates the browser's find function and not JAWS's, I
noticed that as well. That's actually ok I think as that's the way
browsers are meant to function. Is it that much of a pain for you to
use insert-ctrl-f instead? You already have to do this in for
examplea dobe reader...

That said I'm sure you could remap the keystroke somehow. I don't
think jAWS has separate keyboard/script files for waterfox, and
that's why the virtual find doesn't work the same. You could
probably create one if you watned to.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave
Durber
Sent: February 14, 2019 11:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using Waterfox

Hello everyone:

Using Windows 7 and JAWS Version 2018, I installed WaterFox on one
of my computers this morning.

So far, I have found one irritating thing, that is, When I press
CTRL+F, JAWS now says, "Search in page", followed by the word edit.

How can I apply the keystroke, INSERT+CTRL+F, which is the JAWS
search command to CTRL+F, instead.

So far, with the limited use I have had using this browser, I am
liking its speed and accessing the web pages I have visited.

Thank you in anticipation for any suggestions.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber
Re: Using Waterfox

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi Dave,
 
Windows has the sticky key mode but, Jaws has Insert key mode and how to use it is explained below:
Insert Key Mode:
Try the following to turn the Insert Key Mode on / off.  This only works in
the Settings Center Default All Applications.
1. Open the Settings Center in either of these 2 ways.
A. Press, Insert / Jaws Key + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard.
B. Press, Insert / Jaws Key + F2, to open the, Jaws Manager, arrow down,
Settings Center, & press enter.
With the Settings Center open press, control, shift , + D, to open the
Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Users, right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Insert Key Mode, to check or uncheck this box.  Here's the
explanation of this option:
When selected, the INSERT key functions as a sticky key. Any key pressed
immediately after pressing the INSERT key is treated as if it were pressed
in combination with the INSERT key. This check box is cleared by default.

Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox

Hello Mike:

Unless Vispero have added a Sticky Keys function to JAWS which I have not
heard about, The Sticky Keys function you mention, is a function in Windows,
it is not a JAWS function.

Thank you for the suggestion.

HTH

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Rogers" <harpman9@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox


> There is a "sticky key" function with Jaws that allows you to press
> insert, then another key using one hand.
>
> ********************************
>
> www.harmonicaworkshops.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 19:07:24 -0000
> "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...> wrote:
>
>> Hello there:
>>
>> Due to an injury to the little finger on my right hand, I find pressing
>> keystrokes such as INSERT+CTRL a problem. Not only that, when you press
>> CTRL+F and type a search term on a page, I find that when you press
>> ENTER, to activate the search function, it does not appear to take you to
>> the result, if it finds it!
>>
>> Dave Durber
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "JM Casey" <jmcasey@...>
>> To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 6:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: Using Waterfox
>>
>>
>> > Yeah, ctrl-f activates the browser's find function and not JAWS's, I
>> > noticed
>> > that as well. That's actually ok I think as that's the way browsers are
>> > meant to function. Is it that much of a pain for you to use
>> > insert-ctrl-f
>> > instead? You already have to do this in for examplea dobe reader...
>> >
>> > That said I'm sure you could remap the keystroke somehow. I don't think
>> > jAWS
>> > has separate keyboard/script files for waterfox, and that's why the
>> > virtual
>> > find doesn't work the same. You could probably create one if you watned
>> > to.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
>> > Sent: February 14, 2019 11:22 AM
>> > To: jfw@groups.io
>> > Subject: Using Waterfox
>> >
>> > Hello everyone:
>> >
>> > Using Windows 7 and JAWS Version 2018, I installed WaterFox on one of
>> > my
>> > computers this morning.
>> >
>> > So far, I have found one irritating thing, that is, When I press
>> > CTRL+F,
>> > JAWS now says, "Search in page", followed by the word edit.
>> >
>> > How can I apply the keystroke, INSERT+CTRL+F, which is the JAWS search
>> > command to CTRL+F, instead.
>> >
>> > So far, with the limited use I have had using this browser, I am liking
>> > its
>> > speed and accessing the web pages I have visited.
>> >
>> > Thank you in anticipation for any suggestions.
>> >
>> > Sincerely:
>> >
>> > Dave Durber
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
>




Re: Using Waterfox

Dave Durber
 

Hello Mike:

Unless Vispero have added a Sticky Keys function to JAWS which I have not heard about, The Sticky Keys function you mention, is a function in Windows, it is not a JAWS function.

Thank you for the suggestion.

HTH

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Rogers" <harpman9@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox


There is a "sticky key" function with Jaws that allows you to press insert, then another key using one hand.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 19:07:24 -0000
"Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello there:

Due to an injury to the little finger on my right hand, I find pressing keystrokes such as INSERT+CTRL a problem. Not only that, when you press CTRL+F and type a search term on a page, I find that when you press ENTER, to activate the search function, it does not appear to take you to the result, if it finds it!

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "JM Casey" <jmcasey@teksavvy.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox


Yeah, ctrl-f activates the browser's find function and not JAWS's, I
noticed
that as well. That's actually ok I think as that's the way browsers are
meant to function. Is it that much of a pain for you to use insert-ctrl-f
instead? You already have to do this in for examplea dobe reader...

That said I'm sure you could remap the keystroke somehow. I don't think
jAWS
has separate keyboard/script files for waterfox, and that's why the
virtual
find doesn't work the same. You could probably create one if you watned
to.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: February 14, 2019 11:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using Waterfox

Hello everyone:

Using Windows 7 and JAWS Version 2018, I installed WaterFox on one of my
computers this morning.

So far, I have found one irritating thing, that is, When I press CTRL+F,
JAWS now says, "Search in page", followed by the word edit.

How can I apply the keystroke, INSERT+CTRL+F, which is the JAWS search
command to CTRL+F, instead.

So far, with the limited use I have had using this browser, I am liking
its
speed and accessing the web pages I have visited.

Thank you in anticipation for any suggestions.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber
Re: Using Waterfox

JM Casey
 

I don't have a JAWS-related solution for you, but if you press escape when
using the ctrl-f find function, you will find your cursor in the right
position and the find dialog box will close. As was already said, pressing
f3 should get you to the next occurrence of the search.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: February 14, 2019 2:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox

Hello there:

Due to an injury to the little finger on my right hand, I find pressing
keystrokes such as INSERT+CTRL a problem. Not only that, when you press
CTRL+F and type a search term on a page, I find that when you press
CTRL+ENTER,
to activate the search function, it does not appear to take you to the
result, if it finds it!

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "JM Casey" <jmcasey@teksavvy.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox


Yeah, ctrl-f activates the browser's find function and not JAWS's, I
noticed
that as well. That's actually ok I think as that's the way browsers are
meant to function. Is it that much of a pain for you to use insert-ctrl-f
instead? You already have to do this in for examplea dobe reader...

That said I'm sure you could remap the keystroke somehow. I don't think
jAWS
has separate keyboard/script files for waterfox, and that's why the
virtual
find doesn't work the same. You could probably create one if you watned
to.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: February 14, 2019 11:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using Waterfox

Hello everyone:

Using Windows 7 and JAWS Version 2018, I installed WaterFox on one of my
computers this morning.

So far, I have found one irritating thing, that is, When I press CTRL+F,
JAWS now says, "Search in page", followed by the word edit.

How can I apply the keystroke, INSERT+CTRL+F, which is the JAWS search
command to CTRL+F, instead.

So far, with the limited use I have had using this browser, I am liking
its
speed and accessing the web pages I have visited.

Thank you in anticipation for any suggestions.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber
Re: Using Waterfox

JM Casey
 

Or you could try the laptop layout. Then you wouldn't have to use that right
hand little finger.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Rogers
Sent: February 14, 2019 2:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox

There is a "sticky key" function with Jaws that allows you to press insert,
then another key using one hand.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 19:07:24 -0000
"Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello there:

Due to an injury to the little finger on my right hand, I find pressing
keystrokes such as INSERT+CTRL a problem. Not only that, when you press
CTRL+F and type a search term on a page, I find that when you press ENTER,
to activate the search function, it does not appear to take you to the
result, if it finds it!

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "JM Casey" <jmcasey@teksavvy.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox


Yeah, ctrl-f activates the browser's find function and not JAWS's, I
noticed that as well. That's actually ok I think as that's the way
browsers are meant to function. Is it that much of a pain for you to
use insert-ctrl-f instead? You already have to do this in for
examplea dobe reader...

That said I'm sure you could remap the keystroke somehow. I don't
think jAWS has separate keyboard/script files for waterfox, and
that's why the virtual find doesn't work the same. You could
probably create one if you watned to.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave
Durber
Sent: February 14, 2019 11:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using Waterfox

Hello everyone:

Using Windows 7 and JAWS Version 2018, I installed WaterFox on one
of my computers this morning.

So far, I have found one irritating thing, that is, When I press
CTRL+F, JAWS now says, "Search in page", followed by the word edit.

How can I apply the keystroke, INSERT+CTRL+F, which is the JAWS
search command to CTRL+F, instead.

So far, with the limited use I have had using this browser, I am
liking its speed and accessing the web pages I have visited.

Thank you in anticipation for any suggestions.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber
Re: Using Waterfox

netbat66
 

contrrol f is the windows search function. it does go to the item. but you have to close the find dialog box before you know where you are on the page. if you want to continue the same search you press f3.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox

Hello there:

Due to an injury to the little finger on my right hand, I find pressing
keystrokes such as INSERT+CTRL a problem. Not only that, when you press
CTRL+F and type a search term on a page, I find that when you press ENTER,
to activate the search function, it does not appear to take you to the
result, if it finds it!

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "JM Casey" <jmcasey@teksavvy.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox


Yeah, ctrl-f activates the browser's find function and not JAWS's, I noticed
that as well. That's actually ok I think as that's the way browsers are
meant to function. Is it that much of a pain for you to use insert-ctrl-f
instead? You already have to do this in for examplea dobe reader...

That said I'm sure you could remap the keystroke somehow. I don't think jAWS
has separate keyboard/script files for waterfox, and that's why the virtual
find doesn't work the same. You could probably create one if you watned to.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: February 14, 2019 11:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using Waterfox

Hello everyone:

Using Windows 7 and JAWS Version 2018, I installed WaterFox on one of my
computers this morning.

So far, I have found one irritating thing, that is, When I press CTRL+F,
JAWS now says, "Search in page", followed by the word edit.

How can I apply the keystroke, INSERT+CTRL+F, which is the JAWS search
command to CTRL+F, instead.

So far, with the limited use I have had using this browser, I am liking its
speed and accessing the web pages I have visited.

Thank you in anticipation for any suggestions.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber
Re: Using Waterfox

Mike Rogers
 

There is a "sticky key" function with Jaws that allows you to press insert, then another key using one hand.

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 19:07:24 -0000
"Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello there:

Due to an injury to the little finger on my right hand, I find pressing keystrokes such as INSERT+CTRL a problem. Not only that, when you press CTRL+F and type a search term on a page, I find that when you press ENTER, to activate the search function, it does not appear to take you to the result, if it finds it!

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "JM Casey" <jmcasey@teksavvy.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox


Yeah, ctrl-f activates the browser's find function and not JAWS's, I
noticed
that as well. That's actually ok I think as that's the way browsers are
meant to function. Is it that much of a pain for you to use insert-ctrl-f
instead? You already have to do this in for examplea dobe reader...

That said I'm sure you could remap the keystroke somehow. I don't think
jAWS
has separate keyboard/script files for waterfox, and that's why the
virtual
find doesn't work the same. You could probably create one if you watned
to.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: February 14, 2019 11:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using Waterfox

Hello everyone:

Using Windows 7 and JAWS Version 2018, I installed WaterFox on one of my
computers this morning.

So far, I have found one irritating thing, that is, When I press CTRL+F,
JAWS now says, "Search in page", followed by the word edit.

How can I apply the keystroke, INSERT+CTRL+F, which is the JAWS search
command to CTRL+F, instead.

So far, with the limited use I have had using this browser, I am liking
its
speed and accessing the web pages I have visited.

Thank you in anticipation for any suggestions.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber
Re: Using Waterfox

Dave Durber
 

Hello there:

Due to an injury to the little finger on my right hand, I find pressing keystrokes such as INSERT+CTRL a problem. Not only that, when you press CTRL+F and type a search term on a page, I find that when you press ENTER, to activate the search function, it does not appear to take you to the result, if it finds it!

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "JM Casey" <jmcasey@teksavvy.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Using Waterfox


Yeah, ctrl-f activates the browser's find function and not JAWS's, I noticed
that as well. That's actually ok I think as that's the way browsers are
meant to function. Is it that much of a pain for you to use insert-ctrl-f
instead? You already have to do this in for examplea dobe reader...

That said I'm sure you could remap the keystroke somehow. I don't think jAWS
has separate keyboard/script files for waterfox, and that's why the virtual
find doesn't work the same. You could probably create one if you watned to.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: February 14, 2019 11:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using Waterfox

Hello everyone:

Using Windows 7 and JAWS Version 2018, I installed WaterFox on one of my
computers this morning.

So far, I have found one irritating thing, that is, When I press CTRL+F,
JAWS now says, "Search in page", followed by the word edit.

How can I apply the keystroke, INSERT+CTRL+F, which is the JAWS search
command to CTRL+F, instead.

So far, with the limited use I have had using this browser, I am liking its
speed and accessing the web pages I have visited.

Thank you in anticipation for any suggestions.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber
Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

JM Casey
 

I think it does, but I'm not absolutely certain.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: February 13, 2019 6:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

does Waterfox still use the old extension API? I know a few people who've switched away from other FF forks when that API was security patched, but wasn't sure if Waterfox was one of them.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: February-13-19 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

Yes, I know about all that and jumped through a few hoops just so I could Use FS quantum.

It might be a resource hog. It does not run that fast on my 3500 MHZ AMD machine with 8 gb of ram. It works well enough, though, for the most part, and I still use it more often than I do Chrome. I recently jumped aboard the Waterfox train, out of curiosity, and I have to admit it does run faster and looks exactly like Firefox.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: February 13, 2019 5:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

A lot of people steered away from firefox when they switched over to the Quantum versions. Or kept with some older ESR version of firefox. Mostly because, and I hear rumors it may have improved slightly, Firefox Quantum is kind of a resource hog. Chrome is actually easier on a system than that, from what I hear. I can't say for sure because I'm on JAWS 18 and latest firefox hates that, but that's the word on the street anyway.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: February-13-19 5:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

No, it wasn't at all, no need to apologise.

That's all quite interesting.
However I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't the only developer perspective.
I know a few for example who stay away from Google for precisely the reason you mentioned. If they use Google products, they do so through services that hide their personal info.

I actually thought Firefox was the most popular browser among developers because of its open-source nature. Maybe that has changed in the last few years?



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of thomas f dinkel
Sent: February 13, 2019 3:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

JM,
The vast majority of developers that I am in contact with see Chrome as the “only browser that matters“ and the browser that everyone should be using.

They came for the built-in development tools, they stayed for the convenience of having google store all of their information in one place (and they think that’s a feature).

I hear “Firefox is an edge-case” and “Firefox is disappearing“ so do we really need to make it work in Firefox?

Now that MS Edge is going to be running Chrome (Chromium) under the hood, there are even less browser options for us.

So, to people I care about, I encourage them to do this one small thing to help protect their personal information: make Firefox your default browser.

Google makes pretty good stuff, but it isn’t free; we pay by giving them our information.

Sorry, that was more than you asked for.

Take care,
Thomas

On Feb 13, 2019, at 1:37 PM, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:

What sort of grief do you get?

When did firefox fall out of favour with developers?
Or certain developers at least...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of thomas f
dinkel
Sent: February 13, 2019 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

Richard,
Different browsers work better for different sites sometimes.

I highly recommend Firefox as a person’s default and then Chrome if one needs to fall back to another option.

I get grief from my developer friends, but my feeling is that Firefox is made for the benefit of people, Chrome is made for the benefit of Google.

Just some thoughts.

Take care,
Thomas


On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:56 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:

I use Firefox latest version with Jaws 2018 and have no issues.
Some folks like Chrome.
The best browser is the one you can use and feel comfortable with.
Does the training organization have a preference?

Other than IE, of course.

Later,
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Liz and
Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 11:44 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.
Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope
https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=HTTP%3A%2F%2FWWW.
FACEBOOK.COM%2FELIZABETH.ULRICH.1&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cad4b7964ad484
4eccc0b08d68ec6e44b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6368
53382208725746&amp;sdata=v1MtQQDyyF025DL1dcmIcVLKDg5GCQHxV0AwuyMdJbg%
3D&amp;reserved=0
Re: Is Adobe Photo premier accessible with Jaws?

JM Casey
 

I don't know about that particular programme. However there was a discussion
on another list recently about video editing software. Of course a totally
blind person will never be able to use all of the features of such a product
to their best advantage, but there's no reason why some of the functions
can't be accessible.

Goldwave is an audio editor. It can extract audio from some video file
containers, but it will not work with video content at all.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mich Verrier
Sent: February 14, 2019 7:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is Adobe Photo premier accessible with Jaws?

Hi I wouldn't think it would be since it is photos and vidiows and I am not
shure of any video or photo softwair except say goldwave but that is only
for audio I think maybe video to that is accessible with jaws. Hth. From
Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: February 13, 2019 11:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is Adobe Photo premier accessible with Jaws?

Hi all
I am taking a broadcasting class and they use Adobe Photo Premier for video
editing. Is this accessible with Jaws?
Thanks.

Sent from my Sprint iPhone X!!!
see: tech4theblind+subscribe@groups.io if you want to talk blind
technology!!
Re: Keyboard Malfunction

JM Casey
 

It sounds like a physical malfunction to me, too. I have had this happen with a built-in keyboard before.

 

Better plug in an external.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed Culpepper
Sent: February 14, 2019 11:01 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Keyboard Malfunction

 

Hi –

I have a totally perplexing problem with my Acer Aspire netbook. The keyboard is malfunctioning. For example, the keys down the left side of the keyboard (Escape, tilde, Tab, Caps-lock) all say “Escape” when pressed. Keys d, f, c say “5.” Keys k, l, I say “dash.” Arrow up says “F10,” and other arrow keys say “Home.” I assume that I inadvertently clicked some option while exploring settings, but I have no idea what or where that option might be. The touch pad allows my sighted wife to navigate the computer, but her tech skills are very limited. Anybody have a suggestion for returning standard keyboard functionality? Do I need to start in safe mode to get where I need to go to make a change? I hope to avoid having to take the dated netbook to a repair shop, given the typical cost of a repair call and the market value of the netbook.

I will be delighted to take conversation about this problem off the list if you have info to share and don’t want to clutter more Jaws-specific list space.

Many thanks – Ed Culpepper

Re: Using Waterfox

JM Casey
 

Yeah, ctrl-f activates the browser's find function and not JAWS's, I noticed
that as well. That's actually ok I think as that's the way browsers are
meant to function. Is it that much of a pain for you to use insert-ctrl-f
instead? You already have to do this in for examplea dobe reader...

That said I'm sure you could remap the keystroke somehow. I don't think jAWS
has separate keyboard/script files for waterfox, and that's why the virtual
find doesn't work the same. You could probably create one if you watned to.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: February 14, 2019 11:22 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using Waterfox

Hello everyone:

Using Windows 7 and JAWS Version 2018, I installed WaterFox on one of my
computers this morning.

So far, I have found one irritating thing, that is, When I press CTRL+F,
JAWS now says, "Search in page", followed by the word edit.

How can I apply the keystroke, INSERT+CTRL+F, which is the JAWS search
command to CTRL+F, instead.

So far, with the limited use I have had using this browser, I am liking its
speed and accessing the web pages I have visited.

Thank you in anticipation for any suggestions.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber
Re: waterfox with jaws

netbat66
 

try the portible version. then you can find out for yourself without installing it or messing up firefox if you have it installed.
with the full version, if you uninstall it it will delete files the firefox version uses and it probibly won't run after the full version of waterfox has been uninstalled.
this does not apply to the portible version.
with this you only have to delete the waterfox folder.


Does Waterfox work with 32 bit. That's what my computer is. I've
downloaded it but don't want to install unless this is the case.

Mike

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 10:24:38 -0500
"JM Casey" <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:

I've only been using it for a few hours, but it seems virtually identical to Firefox to me.

You don't have to use anything you don't want to. I was a little skeptical about Waterfox myself, not being certain if it really was receiving proper updates for security and bugfixes as often as a major project like Firefox. It seems to be on the level, though, and so far it's working pretty damn well. It's not really just for you to call something a worthless piece of junk when you spent, what, all of five minutes with it?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: February 11, 2019 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


I downloaded the portable version of Waterfox, but when I ranit, the interface contained a list of items which made no sense. There was nothing resembling a home page with a search edit field. So I chucked it into the Recycle bin. This worthless piece of junk isn't remotely similar to Firefox. No wonder hardly anyone uses it.


Gerald



On 2/11/2019 3:00 AM, netbat66 wrote:
the problem is if i switch to another screen reader (n v d a) when
waterfox is running then go back to jaws it looks like the virtual
pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this
has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working
again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang wheni open the
bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it
will not hang.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,

I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws
16. When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.
Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List
Box. Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various
tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each
tab.

You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with,
Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option. Now, tab 1 time
to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of
Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc.
don't work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it
works tons better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is
very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and
read the article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of
Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer,
because you do not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you
keep the portable version on the computer, you can create a short cut
on the desktop just like you can with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



Sent from Mail
for Windows 10





From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in
preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer
is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS
friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have
heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
Re: waterfox with jaws

Gerald Levy
 

Well, I don't care what the Waterfox site says.  It does not work on my 32 bit Windows 7 desktop.


Gerald

On 2/14/2019 11:44 AM, Dave Durber wrote:
Hello Mike:

When I went to the Waterfox download site this morning, it did say, that Waterfox is for 64 and 32 BIT systems.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Rogers" <harpman9@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Does Waterfox  work with 32 bit.  That's what my computer is. I've downloaded it but don't want to install unless this is the case.

Mike

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 10:24:38 -0500
"JM Casey" <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:

I've only been using it for a few hours, but it seems virtually identical to Firefox to me.

You don't have to use anything you don't want to. I was a little skeptical about Waterfox myself, not being certain if it really was receiving proper updates for security and bugfixes as often as a major project like Firefox. It seems to be on the level, though, and so far it's working pretty damn well. It's not really just for you to call something a worthless piece of junk when you spent, what, all of five minutes with it?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: February 11, 2019 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


I downloaded the portable version of Waterfox, but when I ranit, the interface contained a list of items which made no sense. There was nothing resembling a home page with a search edit field.  So I chucked it into the Recycle bin.  This worthless piece of junk isn't remotely similar to Firefox.  No wonder hardly anyone uses it.


Gerald



On 2/11/2019 3:00 AM, netbat66 wrote:
the problem is if i switch to another screen reader  (n v d a) when
waterfox is running  then go back to jaws  it looks like the virtual
pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this
has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working
again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang  wheni open the
bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it
will not hang.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun    day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,

I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws
16. When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.
Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List
Box.  Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various
tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each
tab.

You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with,
Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option.  Now, tab 1 time
to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of
Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work
as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc.
don't work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options  going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it
works tons better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is
very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and
read the article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of
Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer,
because you do not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you
keep the portable version on the computer, you can create a short cut
on the desktop just like you can with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



Sent from Mail
for Windows 10





From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in
preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer
is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS
friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have
heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
Re: What happened to Doug Geoffray,

Richard Turner
 


Doug is a program manager with the Narrator team at Microsoft and will be at CSUN.
Here is a link to the Microsoft Accessibility blog:


Richard

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker



On Feb 14, 2019, at 7:30 AM, Tom Lange <lange85@...> wrote:

Hi,
I’d heard that He’s now at Microsoft but I wasn’t sure in what capacity. I wonder if he’s somehow responsible for the progress made with Narrator. With Doug at the helm, good things are surely in store. I wish him all the best.


On Feb 14, 2019, at 7:11 AM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

I have found that he is now a Senior Program Manager at Microsoft

On 2/14/2019 9:10 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
No.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: 14 February 2019 14:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What happened to Doug Geoffray,
After the demise of Window Eyes what happen to Doug Geoffray?  Is he still part of VFO
Re: waterfox with jaws

Dave Durber
 

Hello Mike:

When I went to the Waterfox download site this morning, it did say, that Waterfox is for 64 and 32 BIT systems.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Rogers" <harpman9@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Does Waterfox work with 32 bit. That's what my computer is. I've downloaded it but don't want to install unless this is the case.

Mike

********************************

www.harmonicaworkshops.com



On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 10:24:38 -0500
"JM Casey" <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:

I've only been using it for a few hours, but it seems virtually identical to Firefox to me.

You don't have to use anything you don't want to. I was a little skeptical about Waterfox myself, not being certain if it really was receiving proper updates for security and bugfixes as often as a major project like Firefox. It seems to be on the level, though, and so far it's working pretty damn well. It's not really just for you to call something a worthless piece of junk when you spent, what, all of five minutes with it?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: February 11, 2019 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


I downloaded the portable version of Waterfox, but when I ranit, the interface contained a list of items which made no sense. There was nothing resembling a home page with a search edit field. So I chucked it into the Recycle bin. This worthless piece of junk isn't remotely similar to Firefox. No wonder hardly anyone uses it.


Gerald



On 2/11/2019 3:00 AM, netbat66 wrote:
the problem is if i switch to another screen reader (n v d a) when
waterfox is running then go back to jaws it looks like the virtual
pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this
has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working
again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang wheni open the
bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it
will not hang.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,

I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws
16. When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.
Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List
Box. Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various
tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each
tab.

You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with,
Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option. Now, tab 1 time
to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of
Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc.
don't work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it
works tons better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is
very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and
read the article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of
Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer,
because you do not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you
keep the portable version on the computer, you can create a short cut
on the desktop just like you can with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



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From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in
preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer
is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS
friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have
heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

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Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Dave Durber
 

Hello Sieghard:

Thank you for your very precice instructions. My Dropbox file folder, has been moved from the system drive, to the f drive, using the same path structure.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@live.ca>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox


Here is what I do, I am telling you what I press and include what Jaws said from speech history:

Press Jaws Key + F11 to bring up the system tray and arrow to Dropbox:
Dropbox 66.4.84 up to date, 5 of 14
Press enter and you should hear:
tray-window - press enter again on that and you hear:
Context Menu
Open Dropbox folder - I now down arrow through all the options:
Launch Dropbox website
Launch Dropbox Paper
Recently changed files sub menu
48.7% of 11.2GB used Unavailable
Get more space
Up to date Unavailable
Pause syncing
Snooze notifications sub menu
Preferences...
Help center
Exit
I suggest you definitely don't try to move the Dropbox folder because I doubt Dropbox would then work, you need to go into Preferences and tell Dropbox where you want the folder to be. So, arrow to Preferences and press enter.
Now use Control + Tab to find the "Sync" tab:
Dropbox Preferences
Account Tab
Import Tab
Bandwidth Tab
Proxies Tab
Notifications Tab
Sync Tab - press tab now, the first couple of times you won't hear anything, then you hear the following:
OK Enter Button - continue to press tab
Cancel Enter Button
Apply Enter Button
Selective Sync... Enter Select which folders sync to this computer: Select which folders you want to see on this computer. Any folders you unselect won't be shown on this computer, but you can still access them on dropbox.com.
Move... Enter Dropbox folder location Choose where your Dropbox is located on your computer. All your Dropbox files will be saved in this folder.
Press enter on that and you should be able to specify the new location.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Hello everyone:

I would like to move the dropbox folder from drive C to Drive f on my system.

However, when I open the Task Tray and highlight the Dropbox icon and press ENTER, to open the Dropbox item, then press the SPACEBAR, to open the "GEAR"
menue item, I cannot find the "Exit" button to close Dropbox, so I can then move the Dropbox folder to the new location.

I am running Windows 7 Professional and I am using JFW 2018.

Any suggestions will be very helpful.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber
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