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Re: Keyboard Malfunction

Chris Hill
 

I can't think of any setting that could explain your problem.  Sounds to me like the keyboard is failing.  Plug in an external keyboard instead.



On 2/14/2019 10:00, Ed Culpepper wrote:

Hi –

I have a totally perplexing problem with my Acer Aspire netbook. The keyboard is malfunctioning. For example, the keys down the left side of the keyboard (Escape, tilde, Tab, Caps-lock) all say “Escape” when pressed. Keys d, f, c say “5.” Keys k, l, I say “dash.” Arrow up says “F10,” and other arrow keys say “Home.” I assume that I inadvertently clicked some option while exploring settings, but I have no idea what or where that option might be. The touch pad allows my sighted wife to navigate the computer, but her tech skills are very limited. Anybody have a suggestion for returning standard keyboard functionality? Do I need to start in safe mode to get where I need to go to make a change? I hope to avoid having to take the dated netbook to a repair shop, given the typical cost of a repair call and the market value of the netbook.

I will be delighted to take conversation about this problem off the list if you have info to share and don’t want to clutter more Jaws-specific list space.

Many thanks – Ed Culpepper


Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Dave Durber
 

Hello Mike:
 
When I close Dropbox, I do not seem to be able to access Dropbox to change the location of the Dropbox folder.
 
Sincerely:
 
Dave Durber
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Hi Dave,
 
To close Dropbox, press enter on the Dropbox icon in the system tray.  If you hear, Edit, press enter again, arrow up 1 time to, Exit, and press enter.  This will close Dropbox.
Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Hi,

You don't do it that way, first you need to change the location in Dropbox
settings.  Then Dropbox will move the stuff for you.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 11 February 2019 12:30
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Hello everyone:

I would like to move the dropbox folder from drive C to Drive f on my
system.

However, when I open the Task Tray and highlight the Dropbox icon and press
ENTER, to open the Dropbox item, then press the SPACEBAR, to open the "GEAR"

menue item, I cannot find the "Exit" button to close Dropbox, so I can then
move the Dropbox folder to the new location.

I am running Windows 7 Professional and I am using JFW 2018.

Any suggestions will be very helpful.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber









Using Waterfox

Dave Durber
 

Hello everyone:

Using Windows 7 and JAWS Version 2018, I installed WaterFox on one of my computers this morning.

So far, I have found one irritating thing, that is, When I press CTRL+F, JAWS now says, "Search in page", followed by the word edit.

How can I apply the keystroke, INSERT+CTRL+F, which is the JAWS search command to CTRL+F, instead.

So far, with the limited use I have had using this browser, I am liking its speed and accessing the web pages I have visited.

Thank you in anticipation for any suggestions.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber


Keyboard Malfunction

Ed Culpepper
 

Hi –

I have a totally perplexing problem with my Acer Aspire netbook. The keyboard is malfunctioning. For example, the keys down the left side of the keyboard (Escape, tilde, Tab, Caps-lock) all say “Escape” when pressed. Keys d, f, c say “5.” Keys k, l, I say “dash.” Arrow up says “F10,” and other arrow keys say “Home.” I assume that I inadvertently clicked some option while exploring settings, but I have no idea what or where that option might be. The touch pad allows my sighted wife to navigate the computer, but her tech skills are very limited. Anybody have a suggestion for returning standard keyboard functionality? Do I need to start in safe mode to get where I need to go to make a change? I hope to avoid having to take the dated netbook to a repair shop, given the typical cost of a repair call and the market value of the netbook.

I will be delighted to take conversation about this problem off the list if you have info to share and don’t want to clutter more Jaws-specific list space.

Many thanks – Ed Culpepper


Re: What happened to Doug Geoffray,

Tom Lange
 

Hi,
I’d heard that He’s now at Microsoft but I wasn’t sure in what capacity. I wonder if he’s somehow responsible for the progress made with Narrator. With Doug at the helm, good things are surely in store. I wish him all the best.

On Feb 14, 2019, at 7:11 AM, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:

I have found that he is now a Senior Program Manager at Microsoft

On 2/14/2019 9:10 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
No.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: 14 February 2019 14:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What happened to Doug Geoffray,
After the demise of Window Eyes what happen to Doug Geoffray? Is he still part of VFO



Re: What happened to Doug Geoffray,

Don H
 

I have found that he is now a Senior Program Manager at Microsoft

On 2/14/2019 9:10 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
No.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: 14 February 2019 14:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What happened to Doug Geoffray,
After the demise of Window Eyes what happen to Doug Geoffray? Is he still part of VFO


Re: What happened to Doug Geoffray,

Steve Nutt
 

No.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: 14 February 2019 14:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What happened to Doug Geoffray,

After the demise of Window Eyes what happen to Doug Geoffray? Is he still part of VFO


What happened to Doug Geoffray,

Don H
 

After the demise of Window Eyes what happen to Doug Geoffray? Is he still part of VFO


Jaws Scripts for Skype

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi All,
 
Ran across this in Top Tech Tidbits.

12. Skype 8 Electron.  Here are JAWS scripts and an NVDA add-on for Skype:
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.


Re: Is Adobe Photo premier accessible with Jaws?

Mich Verrier
 

Hi I wouldn't think it would be since it is photos and vidiows and I am not
shure of any video or photo softwair except say goldwave but that is only
for audio I think maybe video to that is accessible with jaws. Hth. From
Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Reyes
Sent: February 13, 2019 11:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Is Adobe Photo premier accessible with Jaws?

Hi all
I am taking a broadcasting class and they use Adobe Photo Premier for video
editing. Is this accessible with Jaws?
Thanks.

Sent from my Sprint iPhone X!!!
see: tech4theblind+subscribe@groups.io if you want to talk blind
technology!!


Is Adobe Photo premier accessible with Jaws?

Maria Reyes
 

Hi all
I am taking a broadcasting class and they use Adobe Photo Premier for video editing. Is this accessible with Jaws?
Thanks.

Sent from my Sprint iPhone X!!!
see: tech4theblind+subscribe@groups.io if you want to talk blind technology!!


Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

Barbara Black
 

Thanks everyone – I’m all set – this was my first time asking this list a question and you were all terrific!

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of William Hersh
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 6:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi Barbara

 

Via windows:

 

windows key

default apps

tab to set default by app

tab to list box

arrow to Adobe Acrobat reader

tab to manage button press enter

tab to .pdf

press enter

tab to Adobe and press enter

close window

 

alternatively:

 

Open Adobe Reader, then select “Edit” > “Preferences“.

Select “General“

Choose the “Select as Default PDF Handler” button.

Select “Continue“, then follow the steps provided.

Let Windows do its thing, then restart the computer.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 5:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Dan – thanks for checking it out – I think that you are right, somehow Edge was over-ridding Adobe.  But, in the meantime, Bill White  gave me his phone # and walked me through another way to change it – we went to a PDF document in Explorer and went through an  “open with” dialogue which  allowed me to change it for all PDF documents.

 

Again, thanks for helping me figure this out.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 5:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi,

  Not sure you are doing anything wrong.  I just tried this and here were my steps:

Hit space bar

Tab button to cycle through choices

Hit enter once my choice was announced.

Closed settings.

  If this is your way then I am wondering if Edge has a setting that is overriding Adobe?

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Thanks Dan – I am using Windows 10 (JAWS 18) and I pressed space bar and then enter, closed it and then tried opening a PDF document and it still opened with Edge.  I’m not sure what I am doing wrong.

 

In the meantime, I realized that, instead of just hitting enter on the file I want to open (from explorer file list), I can choose “open with” from shift F12 and that seems to get around the problem.  Thoughts on this? o

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi,, If you are using Windows 10 and you hit enter on Adobe you are good to go.  There is no “save” button just close your settings center.

 

Dan   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:39 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi all-

My computer had been set  to open all PDFs in Adobe  But when I changed my default browser from IE to Chrome, my computer changed my PDF reader from Adobe to Edge which I cannot get JAWS to read.  .

 

I tried going to applications/settings, change defaults and gone to list of applications.  I pressed enter on Adobe but  can’t figure out how to complete the process.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

Barbara

 


Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

William Hersh
 

Hi Barbara

 

Via windows:

 

windows key

default apps

tab to set default by app

tab to list box

arrow to Adobe Acrobat reader

tab to manage button press enter

tab to .pdf

press enter

tab to Adobe and press enter

close window

 

alternatively:

 

Open Adobe Reader, then select “Edit” > “Preferences“.

Select “General“

Choose the “Select as Default PDF Handler” button.

Select “Continue“, then follow the steps provided.

Let Windows do its thing, then restart the computer.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 5:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Dan – thanks for checking it out – I think that you are right, somehow Edge was over-ridding Adobe.  But, in the meantime, Bill White  gave me his phone # and walked me through another way to change it – we went to a PDF document in Explorer and went through an  “open with” dialogue which  allowed me to change it for all PDF documents.

 

Again, thanks for helping me figure this out.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 5:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi,

  Not sure you are doing anything wrong.  I just tried this and here were my steps:

Hit space bar

Tab button to cycle through choices

Hit enter once my choice was announced.

Closed settings.

  If this is your way then I am wondering if Edge has a setting that is overriding Adobe?

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Thanks Dan – I am using Windows 10 (JAWS 18) and I pressed space bar and then enter, closed it and then tried opening a PDF document and it still opened with Edge.  I’m not sure what I am doing wrong.

 

In the meantime, I realized that, instead of just hitting enter on the file I want to open (from explorer file list), I can choose “open with” from shift F12 and that seems to get around the problem.  Thoughts on this? o

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi,, If you are using Windows 10 and you hit enter on Adobe you are good to go.  There is no “save” button just close your settings center.

 

Dan   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:39 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi all-

My computer had been set  to open all PDFs in Adobe  But when I changed my default browser from IE to Chrome, my computer changed my PDF reader from Adobe to Edge which I cannot get JAWS to read.  .

 

I tried going to applications/settings, change defaults and gone to list of applications.  I pressed enter on Adobe but  can’t figure out how to complete the process.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

Barbara

 


Re: virtual cursor activating automatically when replying to an Outlook email message

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

I don’t see it, but make sure the correct Outlook script file is loaded by pressing JAWS Key+Q.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow Hilliker
Sent: 13 February 2019 22:15
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: virtual cursor activating automatically when replying to an Outlook email message

 

Hello Amy,
Yes. I experience the same issue. What does freedom scientific and technical support have to say about it?
Thanks,
Darrell

 


On Feb 13, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Amy Bower <abower@...> wrote:

I posted this problem once before, but it’s getting worse and I still don’t have a solution. I do have more information though. This  happens when I use control+r or control+shift+r to reply to an open email message in Outlook 2016 (this happens with both Jaws 2018 and Jaws 2019, but inconsistently in both cases). When I start to type my reply, Jaws acts as if the virtual cursor is enabled, and I tested recently and discovered that in fact the virtual cursor *has* been enabled without me activating it. So naturally, when I start typing, Jaws acts as if the virtual cursor is on because it is on. But how does it get turned on when I didn’t turn it on? Any ideas? Thanks.

-Amy

 


Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Just go to a PDF file in File Explorer, press Alt + Enter for Properties and then Shift + tab which should put you on the “Change” button. Activate it and select Adobe Acrobat Reader DC then make sure to always use this app, tab to OK and activate it, tab to OK for the file properties and activate it and that’s it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Thanks Dan – I am using Windows 10 (JAWS 18) and I pressed space bar and then enter, closed it and then tried opening a PDF document and it still opened with Edge.  I’m not sure what I am doing wrong.

 

In the meantime, I realized that, instead of just hitting enter on the file I want to open (from explorer file list), I can choose “open with” from shift F12 and that seems to get around the problem.  Thoughts on this? o

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi,, If you are using Windows 10 and you hit enter on Adobe you are good to go.  There is no “save” button just close your settings center.

 

Dan   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:39 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi all-

My computer had been set  to open all PDFs in Adobe  But when I changed my default browser from IE to Chrome, my computer changed my PDF reader from Adobe to Edge which I cannot get JAWS to read.  .

 

I tried going to applications/settings, change defaults and gone to list of applications.  I pressed enter on Adobe but  can’t figure out how to complete the process.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

Barbara

 


Re: msoutlook 2016 compact database?

 

I don’t think archiving is the same thing and I assume that it is just not something you have to worry about any more.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: msoutlook 2016 compact database?

 

I recall that option from the past.  Looks like it’s call archiving now.  I found my mailbox size on the Account Info and it says to decrease your mailbox size by deleting messages and archiving.  The auto archiving settings are under File > Options .  Go to the Advanced tab of the Options dialog and a archive button is there to select your settings.  Not as straight forward as the compact function from the past, but probably more customizable.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 9:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: msoutlook 2016 compact database?

 

Hello:

I have two questions

Where is the compact option in Out 2016?

 

Thank you.

 

 



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Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

James Homuth
 

does Waterfox still use the old extension API? I know a few people who've switched away from other FF forks when that API was security patched, but wasn't sure if Waterfox was one of them.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: February-13-19 6:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

Yes, I know about all that and jumped through a few hoops just so I could Use FS quantum.

It might be a resource hog. It does not run that fast on my 3500 MHZ AMD machine with 8 gb of ram. It works well enough, though, for the most part, and I still use it more often than I do Chrome. I recently jumped aboard the Waterfox train, out of curiosity, and I have to admit it does run faster and looks exactly like Firefox.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: February 13, 2019 5:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

A lot of people steered away from firefox when they switched over to the Quantum versions. Or kept with some older ESR version of firefox. Mostly because, and I hear rumors it may have improved slightly, Firefox Quantum is kind of a resource hog. Chrome is actually easier on a system than that, from what I hear. I can't say for sure because I'm on JAWS 18 and latest firefox hates that, but that's the word on the street anyway.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: February-13-19 5:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

No, it wasn't at all, no need to apologise.

That's all quite interesting.
However I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't the only developer perspective.
I know a few for example who stay away from Google for precisely the reason you mentioned. If they use Google products, they do so through services that hide their personal info.

I actually thought Firefox was the most popular browser among developers because of its open-source nature. Maybe that has changed in the last few years?



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of thomas f dinkel
Sent: February 13, 2019 3:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

JM,
The vast majority of developers that I am in contact with see Chrome as the “only browser that matters“ and the browser that everyone should be using.

They came for the built-in development tools, they stayed for the convenience of having google store all of their information in one place (and they think that’s a feature).

I hear “Firefox is an edge-case” and “Firefox is disappearing“ so do we really need to make it work in Firefox?

Now that MS Edge is going to be running Chrome (Chromium) under the hood, there are even less browser options for us.

So, to people I care about, I encourage them to do this one small thing to help protect their personal information: make Firefox your default browser.

Google makes pretty good stuff, but it isn’t free; we pay by giving them our information.

Sorry, that was more than you asked for.

Take care,
Thomas

On Feb 13, 2019, at 1:37 PM, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:

What sort of grief do you get?

When did firefox fall out of favour with developers?
Or certain developers at least...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of thomas f
dinkel
Sent: February 13, 2019 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

Richard,
Different browsers work better for different sites sometimes.

I highly recommend Firefox as a person’s default and then Chrome if one needs to fall back to another option.

I get grief from my developer friends, but my feeling is that Firefox is made for the benefit of people, Chrome is made for the benefit of Google.

Just some thoughts.

Take care,
Thomas


On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:56 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:

I use Firefox latest version with Jaws 2018 and have no issues.
Some folks like Chrome.
The best browser is the one you can use and feel comfortable with.
Does the training organization have a preference?

Other than IE, of course.

Later,
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Liz and
Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 11:44 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.
Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope
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FACEBOOK.COM%2FELIZABETH.ULRICH.1&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cad4b7964ad484
4eccc0b08d68ec6e44b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6368
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Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

JM Casey
 

Yes, I know about all that and jumped through a few hoops just so I could Use FS quantum.

It might be a resource hog. It does not run that fast on my 3500 MHZ AMD machine with 8 gb of ram. It works well enough, though, for the most part, and I still use it more often than I do Chrome. I recently jumped aboard the Waterfox train, out of curiosity, and I have to admit it does run faster and looks exactly like Firefox.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: February 13, 2019 5:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

A lot of people steered away from firefox when they switched over to the Quantum versions. Or kept with some older ESR version of firefox. Mostly because, and I hear rumors it may have improved slightly, Firefox Quantum is kind of a resource hog. Chrome is actually easier on a system than that, from what I hear. I can't say for sure because I'm on JAWS 18 and latest firefox hates that, but that's the word on the street anyway.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: February-13-19 5:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

No, it wasn't at all, no need to apologise.

That's all quite interesting.
However I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't the only developer perspective.
I know a few for example who stay away from Google for precisely the reason you mentioned. If they use Google products, they do so through services that hide their personal info.

I actually thought Firefox was the most popular browser among developers because of its open-source nature. Maybe that has changed in the last few years?



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of thomas f dinkel
Sent: February 13, 2019 3:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

JM,
The vast majority of developers that I am in contact with see Chrome as the “only browser that matters“ and the browser that everyone should be using.

They came for the built-in development tools, they stayed for the convenience of having google store all of their information in one place (and they think that’s a feature).

I hear “Firefox is an edge-case” and “Firefox is disappearing“ so do we really need to make it work in Firefox?

Now that MS Edge is going to be running Chrome (Chromium) under the hood, there are even less browser options for us.

So, to people I care about, I encourage them to do this one small thing to help protect their personal information: make Firefox your default browser.

Google makes pretty good stuff, but it isn’t free; we pay by giving them our information.

Sorry, that was more than you asked for.

Take care,
Thomas

On Feb 13, 2019, at 1:37 PM, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:

What sort of grief do you get?

When did firefox fall out of favour with developers?
Or certain developers at least...



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of thomas f
dinkel
Sent: February 13, 2019 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

Richard,
Different browsers work better for different sites sometimes.

I highly recommend Firefox as a person’s default and then Chrome if one needs to fall back to another option.

I get grief from my developer friends, but my feeling is that Firefox is made for the benefit of people, Chrome is made for the benefit of Google.

Just some thoughts.

Take care,
Thomas


On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:56 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:

I use Firefox latest version with Jaws 2018 and have no issues.
Some folks like Chrome.
The best browser is the one you can use and feel comfortable with.
Does the training organization have a preference?

Other than IE, of course.

Later,
Richard


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I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.
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Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

Barbara Black
 

Dan – thanks for checking it out – I think that you are right, somehow Edge was over-ridding Adobe.  But, in the meantime, Bill White  gave me his phone # and walked me through another way to change it – we went to a PDF document in Explorer and went through an  “open with” dialogue which  allowed me to change it for all PDF documents.

 

Again, thanks for helping me figure this out.

 

Barbara

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 5:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi,

  Not sure you are doing anything wrong.  I just tried this and here were my steps:

Hit space bar

Tab button to cycle through choices

Hit enter once my choice was announced.

Closed settings.

  If this is your way then I am wondering if Edge has a setting that is overriding Adobe?

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Thanks Dan – I am using Windows 10 (JAWS 18) and I pressed space bar and then enter, closed it and then tried opening a PDF document and it still opened with Edge.  I’m not sure what I am doing wrong.

 

In the meantime, I realized that, instead of just hitting enter on the file I want to open (from explorer file list), I can choose “open with” from shift F12 and that seems to get around the problem.  Thoughts on this? o

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi,, If you are using Windows 10 and you hit enter on Adobe you are good to go.  There is no “save” button just close your settings center.

 

Dan   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Black
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:39 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: setting Adobe as default PDF reader

 

Hi all-

My computer had been set  to open all PDFs in Adobe  But when I changed my default browser from IE to Chrome, my computer changed my PDF reader from Adobe to Edge which I cannot get JAWS to read.  .

 

I tried going to applications/settings, change defaults and gone to list of applications.  I pressed enter on Adobe but  can’t figure out how to complete the process.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

Barbara

 


Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

James Homuth
 

A lot of people steered away from firefox when they switched over to the Quantum versions. Or kept with some older ESR version of firefox. Mostly because, and I hear rumors it may have improved slightly, Firefox Quantum is kind of a resource hog. Chrome is actually easier on a system than that, from what I hear. I can't say for sure because I'm on JAWS 18 and latest firefox hates that, but that's the word on the street anyway.

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Sent: February-13-19 5:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

No, it wasn't at all, no need to apologise.

That's all quite interesting.
However I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't the only developer perspective.
I know a few for example who stay away from Google for precisely the reason you mentioned. If they use Google products, they do so through services that hide their personal info.

I actually thought Firefox was the most popular browser among developers because of its open-source nature. Maybe that has changed in the last few years?



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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of thomas f dinkel
Sent: February 13, 2019 3:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

JM,
The vast majority of developers that I am in contact with see Chrome as the “only browser that matters“ and the browser that everyone should be using.

They came for the built-in development tools, they stayed for the convenience of having google store all of their information in one place (and they think that’s a feature).

I hear “Firefox is an edge-case” and “Firefox is disappearing“ so do we really need to make it work in Firefox?

Now that MS Edge is going to be running Chrome (Chromium) under the hood, there are even less browser options for us.

So, to people I care about, I encourage them to do this one small thing to help protect their personal information: make Firefox your default browser.

Google makes pretty good stuff, but it isn’t free; we pay by giving them our information.

Sorry, that was more than you asked for.

Take care,
Thomas

On Feb 13, 2019, at 1:37 PM, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:

What sort of grief do you get?

When did firefox fall out of favour with developers?
Or certain developers at least...



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dinkel
Sent: February 13, 2019 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

Richard,
Different browsers work better for different sites sometimes.

I highly recommend Firefox as a person’s default and then Chrome if one needs to fall back to another option.

I get grief from my developer friends, but my feeling is that Firefox is made for the benefit of people, Chrome is made for the benefit of Google.

Just some thoughts.

Take care,
Thomas


On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:56 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:

I use Firefox latest version with Jaws 2018 and have no issues.
Some folks like Chrome.
The best browser is the one you can use and feel comfortable with.
Does the training organization have a preference?

Other than IE, of course.

Later,
Richard


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Liz and
Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 11:44 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.
Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope
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FACEBOOK.COM%2FELIZABETH.ULRICH.1&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cad4b7964ad484
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