Date   
Re: Here is the braille display users group subscription info for those that wanted.

Milton Ota <mota1252@...>
 

The e-mail address you provided still doesn't work. I'm still getting a message "undeliverable mail".

I'll have to check groups.io.

Original message:

braille-display-users+subscribe@groups.io

Re: some basic chrome naviagation questions

David Goldfield
 

Hi.

1. Yes, pressing ctrl-T does open a new tab in Chrome.

2. To get to your bookmarks, open the Chrome menu. There are several ways to do this but I usually press alt-F, just as if you were opening the file menu. From there, either press the letter B or press down arrow until you get to Bookmarks.

Generally, I rarely use bookmarks as I prefer to type in a partial name of the site that I want to visit and, if I've visited it before, I can browse through a list of possible names.

As an example, suppose that I've visited Freedom Scientific's Web site in the past and I now want to visit it again. Regardless of whether I've bookmarked the site or not I can easily find it by doing the following.


1. Press either alt-D or ctrl-L to move to Chrome's address bar.

2. Begin by typing in the name or title of the site, such as FR or free.  Chrome will attempt to fill in the name and, more often than not, it will have filled in the correct name of the site, which I can verify by reading the current line by pressing insert-up arrow. If it has filled in the correct address press enter.

3. If Chrome doesn't get the name correctly just press down arrow and you will very likely find the site that you wanted. Keep pressing down arrow to navigate through a list of choices. Press enter and you should be taken to that site.


David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 2/11/2019 6:37 PM, Palmer Loux wrote:
I will be very interested to see what you think if JAWS and chrome...
On Feb 11, 2019, at 6:19 AM, Jed Barton <jed@...> wrote:

Hey guys,

So i just downloaded Chrome.  Wow, this thing is fast.  A few
navigation questions.   What's the best way to open a new tab, i think
it's control T but it didn't seem to say anything.  Also, what's the
best way to get to my bookmarks?  I did an import from firefox.  I'm
gonna take chrome for atest drive to see how i like it.  Any other
suggestions for setup?

Thanks,
Jed




Re: some basic chrome naviagation questions

Palmer Loux
 

I will be very interested to see what you think if JAWS and chrome...

On Feb 11, 2019, at 6:19 AM, Jed Barton <jed@...> wrote:

Hey guys,

So i just downloaded Chrome. Wow, this thing is fast. A few
navigation questions. What's the best way to open a new tab, i think
it's control T but it didn't seem to say anything. Also, what's the
best way to get to my bookmarks? I did an import from firefox. I'm
gonna take chrome for atest drive to see how i like it. Any other
suggestions for setup?

Thanks,
Jed


--
Palmer from CBVI

Re: Two Firefox Questions - Sounds Upon Download Completion and Activating Message

Bill White
 

Yes, there is a plugin for Firefox to give a sound after download completion. Press CONTROL plus SHIFT plus A for AddOns manager. Then TAB to the search field and type in download sound, and press ENTER.

 

Once you find download sound, TAB to the link which says add to firefox. It will come up and tell you that you need to give permission. To give permission, press ALT plus A.

 

To save a password when it asks you, press ALT plus S. If it asks you if you want to save the password, and you don’t want to save it, press ALT plus D. You must do this quickly, or you will lose your chance to save the password on that login.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 3:10 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Two Firefox Questions - Sounds Upon Download Completion and Activating Message

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 and Firefox, all the latest builds, under Windows 7.  In Firefox, how do you make it play a sound upon download completion?  Is there a plug-in for this or some setting within Firefox itself?  Also, sometimes Firefox speaks a message telling me  that some sort of action is required; like “Do you want to save the password for this website?”  How do you get to the message’s buttons (e.g., yes, no, etc.) to address the message?

 

Thanks,

Richard

Two Firefox Questions - Sounds Upon Download Completion and Activating Message

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 and Firefox, all the latest builds, under Windows 7.  In Firefox, how do you make it play a sound upon download completion?  Is there a plug-in for this or some setting within Firefox itself?  Also, sometimes Firefox speaks a message telling me  that some sort of action is required; like “Do you want to save the password for this website?”  How do you get to the message’s buttons (e.g., yes, no, etc.) to address the message?

 

Thanks,

Richard

JAWS accessible Order Management Software

Amanda Berkley
 

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for software that can track orders for a B2B wholesaler.
It at least needs to be able to have users see if orders have been
fulfilled or are still pending from multiple devices.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Amanda

Here is the braille display users group subscription info for those that wanted.

Joseph Hudson
 

braille-display-users+subscribe@groups.io

Re: Focus Blue 40 Braille display users group?

Joseph Hudson
 

Hi Raymond, you're welcome. I don't know if you saw but somebody else trying to write that email address and they apparently got bounced back. I posted to his Apple list and asked for the info. So if I get it I will send it back this way. Or if you get at an email from him go ahead and posted.

On Feb 11, 2019, at 1:22 PM, Raymond Bishup <rtbishop@...> wrote:

Joseph:

Thanks! I will email him and see about the list. I appreciate your effort
in getting the info to me.




Raymond Bishop, NV9B
Philippians 4:6-7


**** Be kind to your email friends. If you forward this, please remove all
previous addresses before you send it on and use the BCC area when
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Hudson
Sent: February 9, 2019 7:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Focus Blue 40 Braille display users group?

Hello Raymond, I know there's what exist. But I don't have the subscription
info. But I do know the owner's email address. His name is Kliff and he
should be able to get you their info that you need. His email address will
be below for you.

KliphnSharrie Miller <millerkru.inc@...>
On Feb 9, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Raymond Bishup <rtbishop@...> wrote:

Does a Braille display group exist and if so, what is its signup email
address? Thanks!




Raymond Bishop, NV9B
Philippians 4:6-7


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Re: Focus Blue 40 Braille display users group?

Raymond Bishup
 

Joseph:

Thanks! I will email him and see about the list. I appreciate your effort
in getting the info to me.




Raymond Bishop, NV9B
Philippians 4:6-7


**** Be kind to your email friends. If you forward this, please remove all
previous addresses before you send it on and use the BCC area when
forwarding to several friends. ****

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Hudson
Sent: February 9, 2019 7:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Focus Blue 40 Braille display users group?

Hello Raymond, I know there's what exist. But I don't have the subscription
info. But I do know the owner's email address. His name is Kliff and he
should be able to get you their info that you need. His email address will
be below for you.

KliphnSharrie Miller <millerkru.inc@...>
On Feb 9, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Raymond Bishup <rtbishop@...> wrote:

Does a Braille display group exist and if so, what is its signup email
address? Thanks!




Raymond Bishop, NV9B
Philippians 4:6-7


**** Be kind to your email friends. If you forward this, please remove all
previous addresses before you send it on and use the BCC area when
forwarding to several friends. ****




Re: file path to Chrome bookmarks?

Chris Hill
 

Bookmarks in chrome appeared to be stored in a file that only makes sense to chrome.  This is typical with most browsers these days.



On 2/11/2019 11:54, Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io wrote:

In Internet Explorer, I appreciated being able to create a desktop icon with the filepath to the Favorite folder for a variety of reasons.  Is there such a way with Google Chrome?  I cannot find anything in the User App data section that looks relevant.    

 

 

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2019, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

 

 



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file path to Chrome bookmarks?

Van Lant, Robin
 

In Internet Explorer, I appreciated being able to create a desktop icon with the filepath to the Favorite folder for a variety of reasons.  Is there such a way with Google Chrome?  I cannot find anything in the User App data section that looks relevant.    

 

 

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2019, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

 

 



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setting voices for outlook

Mario
 

someone I know who is using JAWS 18 with Outlook 2016 wants to have a
female voice when reading an email and a male voice when composing a new
or replying/forwarding an email.

the male voice can be the same as the default voice.

how can this be done? I'm going to be helping him since he is not savvy
to do this himself. but I need help to tell him the steps needed to do this.

it also sounds like the theme is not classic or may be set to classic
but has been mucked up with different voices by someone else trying to
straighten his mess out.
how do I check and/or reset his speech theme?

Re: waterfox with jaws

Gerald Levy
 


Well,Waterfox portable does not work at all on my 32 bit Windows 7 desktop.  When I open it, I get an interface with the following items: app, beta, other, help and waterfox 56.exe.  But when I click on the last item, it just lists these same five items again. There is no home page or anything resembling a search edit field.   Obviously, something is really screwed up.


Gerald



On 2/11/2019 12:12 PM, dennis wrote:

same here.

On 2/11/2019 10:55 AM, JM Casey wrote:

Good man.

So far I’m finding it slightly faster than firefox is currently.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: February 11, 2019 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws

 

yes i just found that. that worked. everything looks great so far.

On 2/11/2019 10:30 AM, JM Casey wrote:

I see.

 

I think I had to click a button that said “extra install options” or something like that. Then I could grab the 64-bit desktop version; the setup file downloaded right away.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: February 11, 2019 11:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws

 

nothing. the page wouldn't change

On 2/11/2019 9:49 AM, JM Casey wrote:

What happened when you tried to download?

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: February 11, 2019 10:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws

 

i can't even get it to download. i spent about 30 minutes trying everything last night and never could get it to download.

On 2/11/2019 9:24 AM, JM Casey wrote:

I've only been using it for a few hours, but it seems virtually identical to Firefox to me.
 
You don't have to use anything you don't want to. I was a little skeptical about Waterfox myself, not being certain if it really was receiving proper updates for security and bugfixes as often as a major project like Firefox. It seems to be on the level, though, and so far it's working pretty damn well. It's not really just for you to call something a worthless piece of junk when you spent, what, all of five minutes with it? 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: February 11, 2019 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws
 
 
I downloaded the portable version of Waterfox, but when I ranit, the interface contained a list of items which made no sense. There was nothing resembling a home page with a search edit field.  So I chucked it into the Recycle bin.  This worthless piece of junk isn't remotely similar to Firefox.  No wonder hardly anyone uses it.
 
 
Gerald
 
 
 
On 2/11/2019 3:00 AM, netbat66 wrote:
the problem is if i switch to another screen reader  (n v d a) when
waterfox is running  then go back to jaws  it looks like the virtual 
pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this 
has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working 
again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang  wheni open the 
bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it 
will not hang.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun    day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws
 
 
Hi Net bat,
 
I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws 
16. When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.
Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List 
Box.  Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various 
tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each 
tab.
 
You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with, 
Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option.  Now, tab 1 time 
to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of 
Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.
 
Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws
 
do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc. 
don’t work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options  going to the firefox web page?
 
 
 
Hi Liz!
 
The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:
 
Waterfox.
 
It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it 
works tons better.
 
It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.
 
JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is 
very secure.
A new update just came out.
 
Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.
 
It has a spell check built in and everything.
 
It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and 
read the article.
 
The reading mode is built in.
 
You just press:
 
Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.
 
With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.
 
You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.
 
What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of 
Waterfox.
 
I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer, 
because you do not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you 
keep the portable version on the computer, you can create a short cut 
on the desktop just like you can with installed programs.
 
I hope this helps.
 
Take care, Liz.
 
David Moore
 
 
 
Sent from Mail
for Windows 10
 
 
 
 
 
From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.
 
 
 
 
 
I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in 
preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer 
is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS 
friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have 
heard mixed views about fire fox.
 
Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope
 
HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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Re: question on cut and paste with jaws

Shirley Tracy
 

That has happened to me recently as well. I just go back and do it again. Usually, the second try works. Not sure what’s happening.

I am using Windows 10 and JAWS 2018.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: trinh martin
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 4:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: question on cut and paste with jaws

 

Hi

 

I have a question.  Lately when I cut or copy something from the

internet and try to paste it over to wordpad, it doesn't seem to take it

at all.  I think my jaws is jaws 18 and often I am using internet

explorer.  Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

Re: waterfox with jaws

dennis
 

same here.

On 2/11/2019 10:55 AM, JM Casey wrote:

Good man.

So far I’m finding it slightly faster than firefox is currently.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: February 11, 2019 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws

 

yes i just found that. that worked. everything looks great so far.

On 2/11/2019 10:30 AM, JM Casey wrote:

I see.

 

I think I had to click a button that said “extra install options” or something like that. Then I could grab the 64-bit desktop version; the setup file downloaded right away.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: February 11, 2019 11:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws

 

nothing. the page wouldn't change

On 2/11/2019 9:49 AM, JM Casey wrote:

What happened when you tried to download?

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: February 11, 2019 10:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws

 

i can't even get it to download. i spent about 30 minutes trying everything last night and never could get it to download.

On 2/11/2019 9:24 AM, JM Casey wrote:

I've only been using it for a few hours, but it seems virtually identical to Firefox to me.
 
You don't have to use anything you don't want to. I was a little skeptical about Waterfox myself, not being certain if it really was receiving proper updates for security and bugfixes as often as a major project like Firefox. It seems to be on the level, though, and so far it's working pretty damn well. It's not really just for you to call something a worthless piece of junk when you spent, what, all of five minutes with it? 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: February 11, 2019 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws
 
 
I downloaded the portable version of Waterfox, but when I ranit, the interface contained a list of items which made no sense. There was nothing resembling a home page with a search edit field.  So I chucked it into the Recycle bin.  This worthless piece of junk isn't remotely similar to Firefox.  No wonder hardly anyone uses it.
 
 
Gerald
 
 
 
On 2/11/2019 3:00 AM, netbat66 wrote:
the problem is if i switch to another screen reader  (n v d a) when
waterfox is running  then go back to jaws  it looks like the virtual 
pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this 
has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working 
again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang  wheni open the 
bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it 
will not hang.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun    day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws
 
 
Hi Net bat,
 
I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws 
16. When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.
Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List 
Box.  Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various 
tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each 
tab.
 
You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with, 
Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option.  Now, tab 1 time 
to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of 
Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.
 
Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws
 
do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc. 
don’t work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options  going to the firefox web page?
 
 
 
Hi Liz!
 
The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:
 
Waterfox.
 
It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it 
works tons better.
 
It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.
 
JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is 
very secure.
A new update just came out.
 
Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.
 
It has a spell check built in and everything.
 
It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and 
read the article.
 
The reading mode is built in.
 
You just press:
 
Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.
 
With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.
 
You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.
 
What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of 
Waterfox.
 
I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer, 
because you do not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you 
keep the portable version on the computer, you can create a short cut 
on the desktop just like you can with installed programs.
 
I hope this helps.
 
Take care, Liz.
 
David Moore
 
 
 
Sent from Mail
for Windows 10
 
 
 
 
 
From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.
 
 
 
 
 
I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in 
preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer 
is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS 
friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have 
heard mixed views about fire fox.
 
Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope
 
HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

German A Fermin
 

Dave, windows+B to get to the list of programs, enter on Dopbox and up or down arrow until you get to preferences. You want to go to the last tab here. It may say selective sync. In that tab you will find a move button. This is the only way you should be moving dropbox folders.

HTH

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 7:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Hello George:

The Dropbox folder cannot be moved in the way you suggest. I have tried your suggestion but, when I did, I got a message that the folder could not be moved, because it is being used by another program.

According to information I have read on the web, the dropbox folder can only be moved in a specific way, within the dropbox program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "george b" <gbmagoo@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox


Just highlite / select dropbox folder and control x to cut
Now open the f drive and past with control v

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: February 11, 2019 4:30
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Hello everyone:

I would like to move the dropbox folder from drive C to Drive f on my
system.

However, when I open the Task Tray and highlight the Dropbox icon and
press
ENTER, to open the Dropbox item, then press the SPACEBAR, to open the
"GEAR"

menue item, I cannot find the "Exit" button to close Dropbox, so I can
then
move the Dropbox folder to the new location.

I am running Windows 7 Professional and I am using JFW 2018.

Any suggestions will be very helpful.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber







Re: waterfox with jaws

netbat66
 

it runs exactly like firefox once you reboot it the first time.
i also find that web pages load allot faster. so far jaws speech has not randomly paused for 10 seconds all the time like firefox 65 does.
**
you have to reboot waterfox after it has been loaded because it detects your screen reader first and tells you accessibility is parcialy disabled. i forget what the buttons are like reboot. once you do this it will open with the waterfox home screen. which you can change in the tools/options menu.
then it will run the same as firefox.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 3:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


I downloaded the portable version of Waterfox, but when I ranit, the
interface contained a list of items which made no sense. There was
nothing resembling a home page with a search edit field. So I chucked
it into the Recycle bin. This worthless piece of junk isn't remotely
similar to Firefox. No wonder hardly anyone uses it.


Gerald



On 2/11/2019 3:00 AM, netbat66 wrote:
the problem is if i switch to another screen reader (n v d a)
when waterfox is running then go back to jaws it looks like the virtual pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang wheni open the bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it will not hang.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,

I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws 16. When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options. Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List Box. Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each tab.

You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with, Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option. Now, tab 1 time to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc. don’t work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it works tons
better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and read the
article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer, because you do
not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you keep the portable version
on the computer, you can create a short cut on the desktop just like you can
with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



Sent from Mail
for Windows 10





From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for
vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what
is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in
the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1





















Re: waterfox with jaws

JM Casey
 

Good man.

So far I’m finding it slightly faster than firefox is currently.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: February 11, 2019 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws

 

yes i just found that. that worked. everything looks great so far.

On 2/11/2019 10:30 AM, JM Casey wrote:

I see.

 

I think I had to click a button that said “extra install options” or something like that. Then I could grab the 64-bit desktop version; the setup file downloaded right away.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: February 11, 2019 11:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws

 

nothing. the page wouldn't change

On 2/11/2019 9:49 AM, JM Casey wrote:

What happened when you tried to download?

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: February 11, 2019 10:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws

 

i can't even get it to download. i spent about 30 minutes trying everything last night and never could get it to download.

On 2/11/2019 9:24 AM, JM Casey wrote:

I've only been using it for a few hours, but it seems virtually identical to Firefox to me.
 
You don't have to use anything you don't want to. I was a little skeptical about Waterfox myself, not being certain if it really was receiving proper updates for security and bugfixes as often as a major project like Firefox. It seems to be on the level, though, and so far it's working pretty damn well. It's not really just for you to call something a worthless piece of junk when you spent, what, all of five minutes with it? 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: February 11, 2019 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws
 
 
I downloaded the portable version of Waterfox, but when I ranit, the interface contained a list of items which made no sense. There was nothing resembling a home page with a search edit field.  So I chucked it into the Recycle bin.  This worthless piece of junk isn't remotely similar to Firefox.  No wonder hardly anyone uses it.
 
 
Gerald
 
 
 
On 2/11/2019 3:00 AM, netbat66 wrote:
the problem is if i switch to another screen reader  (n v d a) when
waterfox is running  then go back to jaws  it looks like the virtual 
pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this 
has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working 
again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang  wheni open the 
bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it 
will not hang.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun    day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws
 
 
Hi Net bat,
 
I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws 
16. When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.
Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List 
Box.  Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various 
tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each 
tab.
 
You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with, 
Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option.  Now, tab 1 time 
to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of 
Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.
 
Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws
 
do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc. 
don’t work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options  going to the firefox web page?
 
 
 
Hi Liz!
 
The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:
 
Waterfox.
 
It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it 
works tons better.
 
It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.
 
JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is 
very secure.
A new update just came out.
 
Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.
 
It has a spell check built in and everything.
 
It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and 
read the article.
 
The reading mode is built in.
 
You just press:
 
Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.
 
With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.
 
You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.
 
What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of 
Waterfox.
 
I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer, 
because you do not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you 
keep the portable version on the computer, you can create a short cut 
on the desktop just like you can with installed programs.
 
I hope this helps.
 
Take care, Liz.
 
David Moore
 
 
 
Sent from Mail
for Windows 10
 
 
 
 
 
From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.
 
 
 
 
 
I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in 
preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer 
is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS 
friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have 
heard mixed views about fire fox.
 
Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope
 
HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: waterfox with jaws

JM Casey
 

If I hit alt-b, the first option is "show all bookmarks", and it also lists the keyboard command of ctrl-shift-b, which would be a faster way of getting to the same screen. This opens the library window, which I can then search. It's also possible to remove bookmarks from here.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: February 11, 2019 11:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws

but alt b then all bookmarks does not show all the bookmarks and there is no bookmark search option. which i use all the time.
only control i or control b will open all of the bookmarks and cand be searched.
but as i said if i don't turn off the virtual cursor first every thing hangs its funny though. the bookmark list did not hang when i first ran waterfox portible when there was no bookmarks imported to it. after that it hung.the same as firefox does.


-----Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 7:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws

If you use alt-b to access bookmarks, you will not have a hanging issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: February 11, 2019 3:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws

the problem is if i switch to another screen reader (n v d a) when waterfox is running then go back to jaws it looks like the virtual pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang wheni open the bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it will not hang.

-----Original Message-----

From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,

I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws 16.
When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options. Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List Box. Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each tab.

You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with, Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option. Now, tab 1 time to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc. don’t work with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it works tons
better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and read the
article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer, because you do
not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you keep the portable version
on the computer, you can create a short cut on the desktop just like you can
with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



Sent from Mail
for Windows 10





From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for
vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what
is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in
the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1

Re: waterfox with jaws

 

Dennis,

 

All I did was to open Google and then I searched for “Download Waterfox”

The first search result was what I wanted and I pressed enter on it

After the website opened I went to the top and used Jaws search, Control + Jaws Key + F to search for the word Download

The first item it found was a link which said “Download Waterfox”

After that I got my Safe AS dialogue where it wanted to download Waterfox 56.something setup.

It took me about 30 seconds although I didn’t download it in the end because I use Chrome which works extremely well for me and since I was never a big fan of Firefox I doubt I would find Waterfox to be better then Chrome.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 8:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws

 

yes i just found that. that worked. everything looks great so far.

On 2/11/2019 10:30 AM, JM Casey wrote:

I see.

 

I think I had to click a button that said “extra install options” or something like that. Then I could grab the 64-bit desktop version; the setup file downloaded right away.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: February 11, 2019 11:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws

 

nothing. the page wouldn't change

On 2/11/2019 9:49 AM, JM Casey wrote:

What happened when you tried to download?

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: February 11, 2019 10:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws

 

i can't even get it to download. i spent about 30 minutes trying everything last night and never could get it to download.

On 2/11/2019 9:24 AM, JM Casey wrote:

I've only been using it for a few hours, but it seems virtually identical to Firefox to me.
 
You don't have to use anything you don't want to. I was a little skeptical about Waterfox myself, not being certain if it really was receiving proper updates for security and bugfixes as often as a major project like Firefox. It seems to be on the level, though, and so far it's working pretty damn well. It's not really just for you to call something a worthless piece of junk when you spent, what, all of five minutes with it? 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: February 11, 2019 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws
 
 
I downloaded the portable version of Waterfox, but when I ranit, the interface contained a list of items which made no sense. There was nothing resembling a home page with a search edit field.  So I chucked it into the Recycle bin.  This worthless piece of junk isn't remotely similar to Firefox.  No wonder hardly anyone uses it.
 
 
Gerald
 
 
 
On 2/11/2019 3:00 AM, netbat66 wrote:
the problem is if i switch to another screen reader  (n v d a) when
waterfox is running  then go back to jaws  it looks like the virtual 
pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this 
has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working 
again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang  wheni open the 
bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it 
will not hang.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun    day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws
 
 
Hi Net bat,
 
I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws 
16. When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.
Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List 
Box.  Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various 
tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each 
tab.
 
You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with, 
Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option.  Now, tab 1 time 
to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of 
Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.
 
Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws
 
do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc. 
don’t work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options  going to the firefox web page?
 
 
 
Hi Liz!
 
The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:
 
Waterfox.
 
It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it 
works tons better.
 
It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.
 
JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is 
very secure.
A new update just came out.
 
Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.
 
It has a spell check built in and everything.
 
It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and 
read the article.
 
The reading mode is built in.
 
You just press:
 
Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.
 
With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.
 
You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.
 
What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of 
Waterfox.
 
I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer, 
because you do not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you 
keep the portable version on the computer, you can create a short cut 
on the desktop just like you can with installed programs.
 
I hope this helps.
 
Take care, Liz.
 
David Moore
 
 
 
Sent from Mail
for Windows 10
 
 
 
 
 
From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.
 
 
 
 
 
I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in 
preparation for vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer 
is no longer secure, what is the best browser out there that is JAWS 
friendly? I have used fire fox in the past, but as of late I have 
heard mixed views about fire fox.
 
Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope
 
HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com