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Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Dave Durber
 

Hello George:

The Dropbox folder cannot be moved in the way you suggest. I have tried your suggestion but, when I did, I got a message that the folder could not be moved, because it is being used by another program.

According to information I have read on the web, the dropbox folder can only be moved in a specific way, within the dropbox program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "george b" <gbmagoo@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox


Just highlite / select dropbox folder and control x to cut
Now open the f drive and past with control v

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: February 11, 2019 4:30
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Hello everyone:

I would like to move the dropbox folder from drive C to Drive f on my
system.

However, when I open the Task Tray and highlight the Dropbox icon and press
ENTER, to open the Dropbox item, then press the SPACEBAR, to open the "GEAR"

menue item, I cannot find the "Exit" button to close Dropbox, so I can then
move the Dropbox folder to the new location.

I am running Windows 7 Professional and I am using JFW 2018.

Any suggestions will be very helpful.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber






Re: waterfox with jaws

Gerald Levy
 


I don't know what's going on, but when I opened the portable version of Waterfox, I found nothing labeled "option" on the tools menu, only an item labeled "file options" that did not contain any list box like the one Mike D described.


Gerald



On 2/11/2019 8:09 AM, David Ingram wrote:
Hi, how are you? please keep us posted as to how things are going for you as you use waterfox!  If i'm using windows 10 is everything the same as it relates to how things look in terms of key strokes to get things done or configuring waterfox?

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mike B."
Sent: Feb 10, 2019 5:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,
 
I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws 16.  When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.  Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List Box.  Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each tab.
 
You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with, Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option.  Now, tab 1 time to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: netbat66
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc. don’t work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options  going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it works tons
better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and read the
article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer, because you do
not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you keep the portable version
on the computer, you can create a short cut on the desktop just like you can
with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



                                                                Sent from Mail
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From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for
vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what
is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in
the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1















Re: Problem with Bitlocker

Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
 

Hi,

I Have this issue as well, there doesn't seem to be a way to keep the focus in the password box and I have tried several times.
Not sure but I seem to remember tryin git with narrator and I had similar issues.
Not sure if FreedomScientific will be able to help with this?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Denis Sariyannis
Sent: 31 January 2019 11:07
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Problem with Bitlocker

I think it only happens under Windows 10. I haven't found a way to get
around this using JAWS yet.

2019-01-28 17:23 GMT+01:00, Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
<Robin_Van_Lant=Key.com@groups.io>:
Hmmm... I have bitlocker for my hard drive at work and do not have focus
issues, but maybe it's different for just a partition.



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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 4:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Problem with Bitlocker

Hi all,
does anybody know if it is possible to unlock a Bitlocker partition with
JAWS 2018? Whenever I want to open such a partition the focus jumps into the
password field for a moment but immediately jumps to another element of the
screen. It seems to be impossible to enter a password there so I have to use
NVDA or Narrator to do this right now.

Best regards
Denis

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Re: waterfox with jaws

David Ingram
 

Hi, how are you? please keep us posted as to how things are going for you as you use waterfox!  If i'm using windows 10 is everything the same as it relates to how things look in terms of key strokes to get things done or configuring waterfox?

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mike B."
Sent: Feb 10, 2019 5:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,
 
I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws 16.  When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.  Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List Box.  Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each tab.
 
You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with, Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option.  Now, tab 1 time to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: netbat66
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc. don’t work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options  going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it works tons
better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and read the
article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer, because you do
not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you keep the portable version
on the computer, you can create a short cut on the desktop just like you can
with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



                                                                Sent from Mail
for Windows 10





From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for
vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what
is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in
the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1















Re: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

george b
 

Just highlite / select dropbox folder and control x to cut
Now open the f drive and past with control v

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: February 11, 2019 4:30
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Hello everyone:

I would like to move the dropbox folder from drive C to Drive f on my
system.

However, when I open the Task Tray and highlight the Dropbox icon and press
ENTER, to open the Dropbox item, then press the SPACEBAR, to open the "GEAR"

menue item, I cannot find the "Exit" button to close Dropbox, so I can then
move the Dropbox folder to the new location.

I am running Windows 7 Professional and I am using JFW 2018.

Any suggestions will be very helpful.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

I am having a problem exiting Dropbox

Dave Durber
 

Hello everyone:

I would like to move the dropbox folder from drive C to Drive f on my system.

However, when I open the Task Tray and highlight the Dropbox icon and press ENTER, to open the Dropbox item, then press the SPACEBAR, to open the "GEAR" menue item, I cannot find the "Exit" button to close Dropbox, so I can then move the Dropbox folder to the new location.

I am running Windows 7 Professional and I am using JFW 2018.

Any suggestions will be very helpful.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

Re: waterfox with jaws

Gerald Levy
 

I downloaded the portable version of Waterfox, but when I ranit, the interface contained a list of items which made no sense. There was nothing resembling a home page with a search edit field.  So I chucked it into the Recycle bin.  This worthless piece of junk isn't remotely similar to Firefox.  No wonder hardly anyone uses it.


Gerald

On 2/11/2019 3:00 AM, netbat66 wrote:
the problem is if i switch to another screen reader  (n v d a)
when  waterfox is running  then go back to jaws  it looks like the virtual pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang  wheni open the bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it will not hang.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun    day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,

I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws 16. When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.  Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List Box.  Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each tab.

You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with, Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option.  Now, tab 1 time to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message ----- From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc. don’t work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options  going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it works tons
better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and read the
article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer, because you do
not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you keep the portable version
on the computer, you can create a short cut on the desktop just like you can
with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



Sent from Mail
for Windows 10





From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for
vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what
is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in
the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1




















Re: some basic chrome naviagation questions

Gerald Levy
 

Will Chrome work with JAWS 16?  Or does it only work with later versions of JAWS?


Gerald

On 2/11/2019 6:19 AM, Jed Barton wrote:
Hey guys,

So i just downloaded Chrome. Wow, this thing is fast. A few
navigation questions. What's the best way to open a new tab, i think
it's control T but it didn't seem to say anything. Also, what's the
best way to get to my bookmarks? I did an import from firefox. I'm
gonna take chrome for atest drive to see how i like it. Any other
suggestions for setup?

Thanks,
Jed


some basic chrome naviagation questions

Jed Barton
 

Hey guys,

So i just downloaded Chrome. Wow, this thing is fast. A few
navigation questions. What's the best way to open a new tab, i think
it's control T but it didn't seem to say anything. Also, what's the
best way to get to my bookmarks? I did an import from firefox. I'm
gonna take chrome for atest drive to see how i like it. Any other
suggestions for setup?

Thanks,
Jed

Re: Focus Blue 40 Braille display users group?

Joseph Hudson
 

Hi Robert, I will write him and see if I get anything. And post here whenever I get subscription info.

On Feb 10, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Robert stigile <rnstechnology@...> wrote:

Hello joseph
I have tried the email twice that you provided to get info on the focus 40 list and the email bounces back to me


Robert Stigile
818-381-9568


On Feb 9, 2019, at 5:22 PM, Joseph Hudson <jhud7789@...> wrote:

Hello Raymond, I know there's what exist. But I don't have the subscription info. But I do know the owner's email address. His name is Kliff and he should be able to get you their info that you need. His email address will be below for you.

KliphnSharrie Miller <millerkru.inc@...>
On Feb 9, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Raymond Bishup <rtbishop@...> wrote:

Does a Braille display group exist and if so, what is its signup email address? Thanks!




Raymond Bishop, NV9B
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question on cut and paste with jaws

trinh martin
 

Hi

I have a question.  Lately when I cut or copy something from the internet and try to paste it over to wordpad, it doesn't seem to take it at all.  I think my jaws is jaws 18 and often I am using internet explorer.  Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks

Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.

netbat66
 

the problem is if i change screen readers while waterfox is running and go back to jaws the virtual pc cursor functions will stop working until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working again.
i was trying jawsand n v d a to see if they would work with waterfox.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Moore
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.



Hi!

I am using it well on my 64 bit Windows 10 machine.

I wish I knew why it is not working for you.

Are you pressing enter on the .EXE Waterfox file?

It takes a minute for the browser to come up.

If you press Alt+T and go to options, you can change your settings.

Remember, it does take a minute or more to come up, and for the first time, it will not show a home page.

You have to type in the URL for your home pages in the Settings.

Take care!

David Moore



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: netbat66
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 5:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





it didn't work with my 64bit windows 7 either.





-----Original Message-----

From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 1:55 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.













Well, I tried the portable version of Waterfox, and it is completely unusable

on my 32 bit Windows 7 desktop. But at least it was easy to get rid of. I

just chucked it into the recycle bin.









Gerald

















On 2/10/2019 4:27 PM, David Moore wrote:





Hi!



The advantages that I like with a portable version of a program, is that it

does not leave residue on your computer that is not part of the program.



For example, browsers leave cookies on your computer, which are tiny apps that

make web sites work better. Also, when you install a program, remnants of the

program are scattered around in folders that you do not think about.



Installing a program puts it right on your hard drive, and it leaves a

footprint on your computer.



With the portable program, all bookmarks, browsing history, search history, and

all of that, is saved right in the unzipped portable folder.



You know that everything that browser does, is right in the unzipped folder

instead of on your computer somewhere, on the hard drive.



Also, you can put a portable program on a external storage drive, and just

press enter on the .exe file on that storage device to launch the program.



I keep an SD card on my computer, and I put the portable programs on the SD

card, and even put shortcuts on the desktop, because I leave the SD card in the

computer.



That way, you are not taking up space on your hard drive’s storage at all.



I use this little computer with a 28 Gig SSD drive, so space is a minimum on

this little gym.



You can also put the portable program on a USB pin drive, and carry it to where

ever you go, and you can launch it on any computer anywhere.



That is the biggest reason why I like portable programs. That is why NVDA is so

awesome, because you can put it on a pin drive, and take it where ever you go,

and use NVDA on any computer.



That is the power of portable programs.



Have a great one, and please ask any questions.



David Moore







Sent from Mail

for Windows 10











From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:20 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.











Just curious, but what advantage is there in running this portable version over

one you install?















From: main@jfw.groups.io mailto:main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of David Moore

Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 12:04 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.











Hi Liz!



The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:



Waterfox.



It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it works tons

better.



It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.



JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is very secure.

A new update just came out.



Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.



It has a spell check built in and everything.



It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and read the

article.



The reading mode is built in.



You just press:



Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.



With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.



You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.



What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of Waterfox.



I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer, because you do

not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you keep the portable version

on the computer, you can create a short cut on the desktop just like you can

with installed programs.



I hope this helps.



Take care, Liz.



David Moore







Sent from Mail

for Windows 10











From: Liz and Hope

Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.











I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for

vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what

is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in

the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.



Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope



HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1

Re: waterfox with jaws

netbat66
 

the problem is if i switch to another screen reader (n v d a)
when waterfox is running then go back to jaws it looks like the virtual pc cursor is not working. it will still say it is on or off but this has mo effect until i reload waterfox. then jaws will start working again.
also just like firefox the bookmark list will hang wheni open the bookmark list for about 20 seconds.
i have to turn off the virtual pc cursor before i open it. then it will not hang.

-----Original Message-----

From: Mike B.
Sent: Sun day, February 10, 2019 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: waterfox with jaws


Hi Net bat,

I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws 16. When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options. Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List Box. Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each tab.

You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with, Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option. Now, tab 1 time to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
----- Original Message -----
From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc. don’t work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it works tons
better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and read the
article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer, because you do
not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you keep the portable version
on the computer, you can create a short cut on the desktop just like you can
with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



Sent from Mail
for Windows 10





From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for
vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what
is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in
the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1

setting default browser in windows 10

netbat66
 

you can also type in default browser and it will take you directly to the option to change the browser you want to use.
you press enter on the browser that is showing and it will open a list of all the browsers you have installed to choose from.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 10:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: microsoft edge is dead.

All you would have to do is open the Windows search box, type "default apps" or start typing it until you hear "Default apps, system settings, press enter and tab about 5 times. Then press enter or the spacebar, tab to the browser you want as your default and press enter. Now close Settings with Alt + F4 and you are done.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: microsoft edge is dead.

Somehow last week I found my default browser changed to Edge and I could not
work with it. JAWS just didn't seem to read anything, though a sighted
friend told me I'd got to the website I wanted. He took some time and found
something cqalled Edge Deflecter, which seems to have got rid of Edge, thank
goodness.

Don

Re: microsoft edge is dead.

 

All you would have to do is open the Windows search box, type "default apps" or start typing it until you hear "Default apps, system settings, press enter and tab about 5 times. Then press enter or the spacebar, tab to the browser you want as your default and press enter. Now close Settings with Alt + F4 and you are done.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 11:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: microsoft edge is dead.

Somehow last week I found my default browser changed to Edge and I could not
work with it. JAWS just didn't seem to read anything, though a sighted
friend told me I'd got to the website I wanted. He took some time and found
something cqalled Edge Deflecter, which seems to have got rid of Edge, thank
goodness.

Don

Re: Jaws and chess

Chris Chaffin
 

Hello,

It is not a computer program, but when it comes to playing chess, there is also the US Blind Chess Association. You can play both by email and by Skype. There is friendly games as well as several tournaments that you can participate in if you want.
If you would like more information, please feel free to contact me off list.

Chris Chaffin
chaffin102468@...

Their website can be found at:
http://www.americanblindchess.org

On Feb 10, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Edward Green <ergreen1981@...> wrote:

Hi Marilyn,

You have various options for playing chess online, including email, Skype and various chat rooms. You can also play chess against the computer using a variety of free and paid software packages. Fritz is probably the best, though I'm not sure which version works best with JAWS. Winboard was a good free (though basic) alternative, which may still be available.

Assuming you're in the US, it would be worth checking out the US Braille Chess Association website, www.americanblindchess.org, which provides more details on the various online options.

Other countries (such as the UK where I am) have their own Braille Chess Associations which also run email and over-the-board tournaments, which aren't restricted to people from those countries.

Cheers,

Ed


On 10 Feb 2019, at 21:20, Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm not sure where to start my search, so perhaps someone on the list can
tell me. I want to know about playing chess on-line or using the computer,
and wonder how Jaws does with facilitating this? While I play on a regular
board, I can't always find partners, and thought this would be a way round
the problem.

I was also told, though I have not been able to verify this, that there is
an actual board that can be activated using speech software. Are the on-line
games accessible for Jaws users?

Are there chess players on this list? Any information would be greatly
appreciated. If I need to find a different list for my questions, I would
appreciate references to them.

Many thanks.

Marilyn









Re: Jaws and chess

Richard Turner
 

There is a free chess game from Spoonbill Software, along with many other These are designed to play on your computer. If you have a smart phone; there are accessible chess game apps. Shredder Chess and Chess-Wise 3, at least for iPhones.
Here is Spoonbill's web address:



The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have any." -- Alice Walker



On Feb 10, 2019, at 1:56 PM, Edward Green <ergreen1981@...> wrote:

Hi Marilyn,

You have various options for playing chess online, including email, Skype and various chat rooms. You can also play chess against the computer using a variety of free and paid software packages. Fritz is probably the best, though I'm not sure which version works best with JAWS. Winboard was a good free (though basic) alternative, which may still be available.

Assuming you're in the US, it would be worth checking out the US Braille Chess Association website, https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.americanblindchess.org&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C0436c2b523434cac7cfd08d68fa2ac8d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636854326167555523&amp;sdata=osaoQQi19UiJJtMjv1IRVfXsbGWV8uc%2BUxAOuvw2prc%3D&amp;reserved=0, which provides more details on the various online options.

Other countries (such as the UK where I am) have their own Braille Chess Associations which also run email and over-the-board tournaments, which aren't restricted to people from those countries.

Cheers,

Ed


On 10 Feb 2019, at 21:20, Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm not sure where to start my search, so perhaps someone on the list can
tell me. I want to know about playing chess on-line or using the computer,
and wonder how Jaws does with facilitating this? While I play on a regular
board, I can't always find partners, and thought this would be a way round
the problem.

I was also told, though I have not been able to verify this, that there is
an actual board that can be activated using speech software. Are the on-line
games accessible for Jaws users?

Are there chess players on this list? Any information would be greatly
appreciated. If I need to find a different list for my questions, I would
appreciate references to them.

Many thanks.

Marilyn












Re: waterfox with jaws

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi Net bat,
 
I'm running the installed version of Waterfox, Windows 7 Pro with Jaws 16.  When you start Water fox press, Alt + T, then, O, to open options.  Now tab to either, Options or Options Document, and down arrow to List Box.  Press enter on, List Box, now you can down arrow to the various tabs in Tools / Options and you can tab through the settings for each tab.
 
You can also open Waterfox and turn the virtual cursor off with, Insert + Z, press, Alt + t, then, O, to open option.  Now, tab 1 time to the list of Options / tabs, arrow up / down through the list of Options tabs and tab through the options tabs to change settings.

Take Care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: netbat66
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: waterfox with jaws

do you need a add on to make it accessible?
i am trying the portible version and few of the jaws options work as is.
with the virtual pc cursor onedit boxes, headings read to end etc. don’t work
with jaws as is.
and why are all the help options  going to the firefox web page?



Hi Liz!

The best browser to use with JAWS, for me, has been a browser called:

Waterfox.

It was developed in 2012, and it is a spin off of Firefox, but it works tons
better.

It can use all of the classic Firefox plugins, and it is so very fast.

JAWS never messes up in Waterfox. It is kept up to date, and it is very secure.
A new update just came out.

Water fox has an interface that is almost like the old Firefox.

It has a spell check built in and everything.

It has a reading mode where you can get the clutter off the page, and read the
article.

The reading mode is built in.

You just press:

Alt+CTRL+R to put a web site into reading mode.

With JAWS, I would say that Waterfox is my favorite browser.

You can just do a Google search for Waterfox.

What I like as well, is the ability to download a portable version of Waterfox.

I love running a portable version, that I keep on the computer, because you do
not have to install it on the computer. Also, if you keep the portable version
on the computer, you can create a short cut on the desktop just like you can
with installed programs.

I hope this helps.

Take care, Liz.

David Moore



                                                                Sent from Mail
for Windows 10





From: Liz and Hope
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: The best internet browser to use with JAWS.





I am going to be receiving some in depth computer training in preparation for
vocational training services. Since Internet Explorer is no longer secure, what
is the best browser out there that is JAWS friendly? I have used fire fox in
the past, but as of late I have heard mixed views about fire fox.

Liz Ulrich and leader Dog hope

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1















Re: Microsoft edge is dead.

JM Casey
 

There’s something fishy about that; considering MS’s just released press statement about iE, I don’t think they would push a notification like that at all. Even if the architecture of Edge is changing soon, it’s still going to be the Windows 10 browser.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: February 10, 2019 5:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft edge is dead.

 

Wow!

I have never seen that!

There is always a notice at the top of the web page to switch to Google Chrome, but maybe that is because I have my home page set to Google.com LOL!

I just can’t get into Bing!

David Moore

 

                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Phil Cox
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft edge is dead.

 

Helllo All

 

My partner is using Edge as her default browser and yesterday when I was

working on her system, there was a notice that came up telling Edge users to

switch to Internet Explorer as their default.

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Alan Robbins

Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:54 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Microsoft edge is dead.

 

I have been very happy with Chrome and never took the time to play with Edge

a whole lot. I tinkered a couple of times but was not impressed and saw no

reason to  leave Chrome as by far it is the most common browser of choice

 

Al

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66

Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:08 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: microsoft edge is dead.

 

i think freedom is going to have a  long road to haul and they will have to

start from scratch for the edge browser.

the edge browser is going to be replaced.

        few vendors are useing it at all.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/12/post-mortem-tying-edge-to-windows-10-was-a-fatal-error/

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Melissa Stott

Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 10:19 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet

Explorer

 

 

 

They will have to improve Microsoft Edge drastically before I use is.  So

far,

I cannot stand it!

 

 

 

Melissa

 

 

 

 

 

From: Maria Campbell

Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 10:35 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet

Explorer

 

 

 

 

 

Incredible!  They admit how unpopular Edge is and they say this about IE!

 

Microsoft is losing my respect, especially after breaking Skype as well.

 

 

 

 

 

Maria Campbelllucky1inct@... Somewhere, something incredible is

waiting

to be known.~ Blaise Pascal ~

 

On 2/8/2019 7:07 PM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

 

 

 

So why don't they just remove it from windows then?

I bet it's still there in the next build!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 8 Feb 2019, at 23:49, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

 

 

 

Article that came out today in The Telegraph newspaper in the UK:

 

          Stop using Internet Explorer, warns Microsoft's own security chief

 

If that doesn't convince people that the shelf life of IE is now expired,

nothing will.

 

--

 

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

 

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a

well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

 

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: Microsoft edge is dead.

David Moore
 

Wow!

I have never seen that!

There is always a notice at the top of the web page to switch to Google Chrome, but maybe that is because I have my home page set to Google.com LOL!

I just can’t get into Bing!

David Moore

 

                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Phil Cox
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Microsoft edge is dead.

 

Helllo All

 

My partner is using Edge as her default browser and yesterday when I was

working on her system, there was a notice that came up telling Edge users to

switch to Internet Explorer as their default.

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Alan Robbins

Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:54 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Microsoft edge is dead.

 

I have been very happy with Chrome and never took the time to play with Edge

a whole lot. I tinkered a couple of times but was not impressed and saw no

reason to  leave Chrome as by far it is the most common browser of choice

 

Al

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66

Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 2:08 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: microsoft edge is dead.

 

i think freedom is going to have a  long road to haul and they will have to

start from scratch for the edge browser.

the edge browser is going to be replaced.

        few vendors are useing it at all.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/12/post-mortem-tying-edge-to-windows-10-was-a-fatal-error/

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Melissa Stott

Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2019 10:19 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet

Explorer

 

 

 

They will have to improve Microsoft Edge drastically before I use is.  So

far,

I cannot stand it!

 

 

 

Melissa

 

 

 

 

 

From: Maria Campbell

Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2019 10:35 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet

Explorer

 

 

 

 

 

Incredible!  They admit how unpopular Edge is and they say this about IE!

 

Microsoft is losing my respect, especially after breaking Skype as well.

 

 

 

 

 

Maria Campbelllucky1inct@... Somewhere, something incredible is

waiting

to be known.~ Blaise Pascal ~

 

On 2/8/2019 7:07 PM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

 

 

 

So why don't they just remove it from windows then?

I bet it's still there in the next build!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 8 Feb 2019, at 23:49, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

 

 

 

Article that came out today in The Telegraph newspaper in the UK:

 

          Stop using Internet Explorer, warns Microsoft's own security chief

 

If that doesn't convince people that the shelf life of IE is now expired,

nothing will.

 

--

 

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

 

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a

well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

 

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore