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Re: Selecting text and files

Dondi
 

Hi,

Hey you wouldn't happened to know what the shortcut key for strike through
would be for Word 2010 . I have the rest; bold, Italic, Underline.

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of dave grossoehme
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:09 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Selecting text and files


The windows key+ the Pause key will take you to the system menu in windows
7. If you wish to print anything from anywhere in windows control+p will
print for you. Control+f will find an item inside a window. A lot of times

control+w will givfe a list of windows keys. Control+s when you are in a
document will save your information. Control+b will let you type something
in bold depend upon what version of Word you are using.
I hope these will help.
Your Friend Dave


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From: "Dondi" <zidnod63@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:46 PM
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Selecting text and files

Hi Dave,

Yes, if you have any more hotkey combinations I would be interested in
them.
I never knew about the control+delete that one goes right along with
control+back space.

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of dave grossoehme
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Selecting text and files


Are you looking for hotkeys in general for any application? However,
other
hotkeys for a word or text document are control+a to select all the text
or
control+s to save your document

or control+o to open a document or application. If you wish to delete
information in a document control+d will activate this action. If this is
what you are looking for let me know and I'll be glad your more hotkeys
for
other actions.
Your Friend Dave
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From: "Dondi" <zidnod63@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:38 PM
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Selecting text and files

Hi Mike,

First thanks for the list of text selecting key strokes. You wouldn't
know
of any more of these windows key combinations such as.
Windows key+C append to clip board.
Windows key+K jump to book mark in a Word document.

Thanks.

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 6:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Selecting text and files

HI Dondi,

Here is a list of the mostly used text selection keystrokes.

Selecting / Highlighing text

Selecting a letter/character; Shift +left arrow selects prior character.
Shift + right arrow selects next character.

Selecting prior word; Insert/Jaws key, shift + left arrow or control,
shift, + left arrow.

Selecting next word; Insert/Jaws key, shift, + right arrow or control,
shift, + right arrow.

Selecting text from cursor to beginning of line; Shift + Home/7 key on
number pad.

Selecting text from cursor to end of line; Shift +End/1 on the number
pad.

Selecting text from cursor to the end of a document; Control, shift, +
end/1 key on the number pad.

Selecting text from cursor to the beginning of a document; Control,
shift,
+ home/7 key on the number pad.

Selecting more than 1 line of text; Hold the Shift key down while
arrowing
up or down until you have selected/highlighted the lines you want.

Selecting all text; Control + A. This keystroke will select all the
text
in a document no matter the size or length of the document.

to select a page at a time: shift page up or down

If any of these are incorrect, someone please correct me or, if there are
more that can be added, someone please do so. Take care.
Mike




----- Original Message -----
From: Dondi
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:01 PM
Subject: RE: Selecting text and files


Hi,

Is there some where I can get the entire list of Windows key shortcuts
for
JAWS?

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 1:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Selecting text and files

In fact, the Windows key is employed with a number of fantastic JAWS
keystrokes. One which I have come to use on an hourly basis is control
plus
windows plus k to mark a spot in a word document.
One may later jump back to that spot instantly with just windows plus k;
however, even more cool is the ability, in Word, to mark text from your
cursor to the marked spot, and it doesn't matter whether, in the
document,
your cursor is ahead of the marked spot or behind it or whether it is 4
words or 40 pages away. You mark text back to the marked spot with JAWS
key
plus space bar and then m.
Then, you can use control c to copy or control x to cut or windows c to
append.
Try it! You'll like it!


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 2:07 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Selecting text and files

Yes, theWindows key is the key which, when pressed by itself, launches
the
start menu. There are a good number of useful shortcut keys involving
it.
Win+c is the only one I know of that is a JAWS keystroke.

Dean


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
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On Behalf Of deadcatbounce
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 11:57 AM
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Subject: Re: Selecting text and files

I feel really stupid here. When you refer to the "windows key", is that
the
start menu key as well? I'm assuming it's not the insert key on the
number
pad. Duh!
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: Selecting text and files


> As a matter of fact, that did work. In the past I have tried to copy
> things to the clipboard after having previously done so and I was
> warned that it would overwrite what I already had there. Just now,
> though, I copied a line with control+c and then did the same thing
> with the Windows key using noncontiguous text and tested it by using
> control+v to put it into Wordpad. It did copy. This turns out to be
> handy to know. I could have used this bit of knowledge a long time
ago.
>
> On 1/13/2012 6:37 AM, Joni Colver wrote:
>> You can append multiple items to the clipboard the way Dean described
it.

>> I don't know if there is a limit, but I have added more than 2 items
>> before.
>>
>> Joni
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Roger Loran Bailey
>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:57 PM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>> Subject: Re: Selecting text and files
>>
>> What if you want to copy more than two items?
>>
>> On 1/12/2012 10:47 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:
>>> To collect text on the clipboard, copy the first chunk you want,
>>> then, after you have selected the next string you want on the
>>> clipboard, don't copy, but use the JAWS append to clipboard command,
>>> windows+c.
>>>
>>> Dean
>>
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Re: Word 2010 global settings

Dondi
 

Hi,

Yeah, not this time I tried that. I had to unload the template from memory
to rename it. I tried to remove the template from memory with the task
manager but it didn't do anything. Renaming this normal file was part of the
procedure for getting this to work, you can delete it or rename it.

Dondi

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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Word 2010 global settings

Rebooting usually clears this one up.
At 09:28 PM 1/19/2012, you wrote:
Hi,

Thought I'd let you guy's know what I came up with as a fix for this
problem. Part of the fix for this corrupt normal.dot file is to delete
it and have Word create a new one when it starts up. But when I went
and followed the steps of deleting this file so when Word opened up it
could create a new normal.dot file it didn't fix my problem. The new
normal file was created but I still had the same error message about
another application or user is using the normal.dot file. Since this
all started after I tried this mark feature with JAWS 13 and Word 2010
I decided to isolate the problem to Word. So I shutdown JAWS 13 and
started up 12. Where I deleted normal.dot again and started up Word
which created another normal file. But now it's fine no more error
messages with the normal.dot file. I restarted
13 and everything worked fine. Don't really know what was causing this
but I had to do this with JAWS 12 to get this normal.dot file to work with
Word.
Just thought I'd let you guy's know what I saw. For what it's worth I
emailed Freedom Scientific with what happened with me today.

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Word 2010 global settings

Hello there;
Normal Dot Dot) is the default or global template that Word uses to
create a blank document.
Normal.dot is always in use when Word is open, even if you are using
another template.
Normal.dot files commonly
become corrupt
you can check out the following link;
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291352

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
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On Behalf Of Dondi
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:12 AM
To: JAWS mailing list
Subject: Word 2010 global settings

Hello Everybody,



I got a problem with Word 2010. I don't really use Word all that much
but the other day I was trying out the JAWS mark feature in a word
document. I think that this is where my problem began. Here's what it's
doing

1) Start Word 2010.

2) Make no entries in the new blank document, just do a alt+F4
to
close Word 2010.

3) This is what the error message says at this point "Microsoft
Word dialog this file is in use by another application or user
(C:\users\veteran\app data\dot dot\normal dot dot) OK button to
activate press space bar".

4) Pressing space bar closes this error message.

5) The save as dialog opens. File name: edit combo normal dot
dot
zero items to set the value use the arrow keys or type the value.

6) Pressing escape at this time closes this dialog box.

7) Doing another alt+F4 brings up the final warning message.

8) Microsoft Word dialog, changes have been made effect the
global template normal dot dot do you want to save those changes.

9) At this time I choose don't save and press space bar which
finally closes Word.



A couple of questions:

What's this global template normal dot dot?

What do the dot dots mean?





Has anybody had an experience with anything like this?



Dondi

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Re: Word 2010 global settings

Ann Byrne
 

Rebooting usually clears this one up.

At 09:28 PM 1/19/2012, you wrote:
Hi,

Thought I'd let you guy's know what I came up with as a fix for this
problem. Part of the fix for this corrupt normal.dot file is to delete it
and have Word create a new one when it starts up. But when I went and
followed the steps of deleting this file so when Word opened up it could
create a new normal.dot file it didn't fix my problem. The new normal file
was created but I still had the same error message about another application
or user is using the normal.dot file. Since this all started after I tried
this mark feature with JAWS 13 and Word 2010 I decided to isolate the
problem to Word. So I shutdown JAWS 13 and started up 12. Where I deleted
normal.dot again and started up Word which created another normal file. But
now it's fine no more error messages with the normal.dot file. I restarted
13 and everything worked fine. Don't really know what was causing this but I
had to do this with JAWS 12 to get this normal.dot file to work with Word.
Just thought I'd let you guy's know what I saw. For what it's worth I
emailed Freedom Scientific with what happened with me today.

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Word 2010 global settings

Hello there;
Normal Dot Dot) is the default or global template that Word uses to create a
blank document.
Normal.dot is always in use when Word is open, even if you are using another
template.
Normal.dot files commonly
become corrupt
you can check out the following link;
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291352

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dondi
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:12 AM
To: JAWS mailing list
Subject: Word 2010 global settings

Hello Everybody,



I got a problem with Word 2010. I don't really use Word all that much but
the other day I was trying out the JAWS mark feature in a word document. I
think that this is where my problem began. Here's what it's doing

1) Start Word 2010.

2) Make no entries in the new blank document, just do a alt+F4 to
close Word 2010.

3) This is what the error message says at this point "Microsoft
Word dialog this file is in use by another application or user
(C:\users\veteran\app data\dot dot\normal dot dot) OK button to activate
press space bar".

4) Pressing space bar closes this error message.

5) The save as dialog opens. File name: edit combo normal dot dot
zero items to set the value use the arrow keys or type the value.

6) Pressing escape at this time closes this dialog box.

7) Doing another alt+F4 brings up the final warning message.

8) Microsoft Word dialog, changes have been made effect the
global template normal dot dot do you want to save those changes.

9) At this time I choose don't save and press space bar which
finally closes Word.



A couple of questions:

What's this global template normal dot dot?

What do the dot dots mean?





Has anybody had an experience with anything like this?



Dondi

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Re: Word 2010 global settings

Dondi
 

Hi,

Thought I'd let you guy's know what I came up with as a fix for this
problem. Part of the fix for this corrupt normal.dot file is to delete it
and have Word create a new one when it starts up. But when I went and
followed the steps of deleting this file so when Word opened up it could
create a new normal.dot file it didn't fix my problem. The new normal file
was created but I still had the same error message about another application
or user is using the normal.dot file. Since this all started after I tried
this mark feature with JAWS 13 and Word 2010 I decided to isolate the
problem to Word. So I shutdown JAWS 13 and started up 12. Where I deleted
normal.dot again and started up Word which created another normal file. But
now it's fine no more error messages with the normal.dot file. I restarted
13 and everything worked fine. Don't really know what was causing this but I
had to do this with JAWS 12 to get this normal.dot file to work with Word.
Just thought I'd let you guy's know what I saw. For what it's worth I
emailed Freedom Scientific with what happened with me today.

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of David
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Word 2010 global settings

Hello there;
Normal Dot Dot) is the default or global template that Word uses to create a
blank document.
Normal.dot is always in use when Word is open, even if you are using another
template.
Normal.dot files commonly
become corrupt
you can check out the following link;
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291352

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dondi
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:12 AM
To: JAWS mailing list
Subject: Word 2010 global settings

Hello Everybody,



I got a problem with Word 2010. I don't really use Word all that much but
the other day I was trying out the JAWS mark feature in a word document. I
think that this is where my problem began. Here's what it's doing

1) Start Word 2010.

2) Make no entries in the new blank document, just do a alt+F4 to
close Word 2010.

3) This is what the error message says at this point "Microsoft
Word dialog this file is in use by another application or user
(C:\users\veteran\app data\dot dot\normal dot dot) OK button to activate
press space bar".

4) Pressing space bar closes this error message.

5) The save as dialog opens. File name: edit combo normal dot dot
zero items to set the value use the arrow keys or type the value.

6) Pressing escape at this time closes this dialog box.

7) Doing another alt+F4 brings up the final warning message.

8) Microsoft Word dialog, changes have been made effect the
global template normal dot dot do you want to save those changes.

9) At this time I choose don't save and press space bar which
finally closes Word.



A couple of questions:

What's this global template normal dot dot?

What do the dot dots mean?





Has anybody had an experience with anything like this?



Dondi

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Re: [Bulk] what to o when win 7 won't talk on startup

Robert Logue <bobcat11@...>
 

Thanks Dave. Those are good tips. I feel foolish because it turned out the power to the speakers was off.

Bob

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] what to o when win 7 won't talk on startup


Robert,

Okay, first after initial power-on let it quiet down so there's no disc
activity.
Then press Escape.
If the system starts chattering along with a lot of disc activity you may
have managed to get past the startup screen.
When it quiets down again try Ctrl+Alt+J.
Hopefully JAWS starts then.

Another thing you might try if the above does not work...

Again wait for the computer to settle down after the power-on.
Then press Windows +U
Then press Alt+N
Hopefully Narrator will start talking so you can muddle through the rest.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 15:36
Subject: [Bulk] what to o when win 7 won't talk on startup


My computer was working well enough. But I just installed a windows
security update and now it won't talk when booting. No windows sound
either.

To further complicate things. I recently added a new user account and
removed my original account. I'm giving the system away and wanted to clean
it up. It was working ok with the new account till I rebooted after the
windows update. Hope I get some eyes on this. Have to connect a monitor and
mouse just to get someone to look at it.

Just wondering if there are any magic keystrokes at the start-up screen to
get Windows talking.

Bob


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Re: what to do when win 7 won't talk on startup

Robert Logue <bobcat11@...>
 

Nevermind. Got it sourted. Turns out the power to the speakers was off. Strange I couldn't get sound with usb headphones either.

Bob

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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 4:36 PM
Subject: what to o when win 7 won't talk on startup


My computer was working well enough. But I just installed a windows security update and now it won't talk when booting. No windows sound either.

To further complicate things. I recently added a new user account and removed my original account. I'm giving the system away and wanted to clean it up. It was working ok with the new account till I rebooted after the windows update. Hope I get some eyes on this. Have to connect a monitor and mouse just to get someone to look at it.

Just wondering if there are any magic keystrokes at the start-up screen to get Windows talking.

Bob

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Re: QuickBooks accessibility

gary melconian <globcastcapital@...>
 

Hello mr whistler, I know that your product is in the uk, but most
mainstream accounting packages are what the blind user needs to be equally
competitive against its sighted counterparts, I can say this as I am a
professional accountant and work against my sighted colligues in a field of
challenging obsticles and I can get the job done with mainstream products
but the problem with intuit products is the developers break the
accessibility hooks and it is more harder to recommend there products. I use
other products in the accounting world and field, that are mainstream and
that are accessible for my needs as I have to be competitive in these
challenging times against tsighted counterparts. I do bookkeeping, tax, and
other accounting and manangerial projects as I will be a certified public
accountant in a few months. I look forward to your posts on the matter.
Sicnerly yours;
Gary Melconian,MBA

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On Behalf Of Raewyn Whisker
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:04 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: QuickBooks accessibility

Hello Curtis, Marilyn, Chris and everyone interested,



I have to say it is good news to hear that someone is making QuickBooks more
accessible, but please remember, that when a script is written it is quite
often relevant for that version only. This is not to say that is the case
here, but it is quite often.




As a lot of you will know I am the representative of Accomplish CashManager,
and I just wanted to remind everyone that CashManager is a product that is
accessible out of the box - no scripts required to make it work at all.



We have been working with the National Federation of the Blind, the Blind
Merchants Association, and all the other major organisations within America
to ensure our product does the job required of it.



If anyone wants to have a play with the product you can download a trial
without any obligation. Go to either our website www.accomplishglobal.com
or our distributors website http://www.handytech.us/new.html#cashmanager



If you want to hear what some of our current customers think about the
product, please have a read of these testimonials.
http://us.accomplishglobal.com/about/what-people-are-saying-about-cashma
nager.html





Regards Raewyn Whisker

Account Manager

Accomplish Limited



Phone +64 9 571 4560 X 715

Email raewyn.whisker@accomplishglobal.com
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Re: buying a laptop: was new on the list

gary melconian <globcastcapital@...>
 

hello the dell laptops don’t have the touch buttons that you are talking
about. They are much better design using buttons for the settings for wifi,
mute of volume and other settings of the laptop that are found on function
keys on most laptops for controlling the laptop features, on the top
rightcorner of the laptop and they are usable with screenreaders. The model
that I have is the inspiron 5110 with core i5 2.4 with turbo boost to 3.0
with 8 gb of ddr 3 memmory and a massive hard drive which I did not need and
optioned for a SSD 256 gb hard drive which has faster boot up then a regular
hard drive, And I have a massive external hard drive for back up of 2 tb. So
that is how I solved the problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:51 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: buying a laptop: was new on the list

I happen to be a big fan of Toshiba laptops, but in fact all laptops are
made by a few manufacturers and then branded, so it may not matter.

Full'size laptops including keypads are quite common nowadays. Simply check
the description if ordering online or specify if dealing with a store.

If buying hands'on, it´s good to see what kinds of extra keys the laptop
has. Some have capacititave buttons, activated by touch, that turn wiFi on
and off, mute, change volume, etc. If yours has them, you can put dots on
them and use them once you learn their order. It is wise to do this because
otherwise you might inadvertently touch the WiFi button deactivating Wifi,
and not be good at touching the right button again to reactivate it.

To keep this on topic, I'm not aware of any problem you'll face when buying
a laptop to use with JAWS 13. I don't think you can go wrong.

Dean
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On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:55 PM
To: JFW list
Subject: new on the list

Hello all,

I joined this list a few days ago, and am pleased to recognize a few names
from other lists and previous JFW lists.

I will be upgrading my Jaws sometime this year from version 8 to 13. I feel
it will be almost like relearning everything, as so much has been added
since version 8.

As part of my upgrade, I will also be buying a new computer, and would like
anyone's recommendations for the following 2 items.

1. I want to get a laptop preferrably with a keypad if such a thing exists.
Otherwise, well differentiated keys, good battery life, and durable. A
full-sized laptop is fine.

2. I am also looking for a small netbook that will have more limited use. I
want the netbook to be small and durable with a reasonably tactile keyboard.
This device does not need to be as new, as I am willing to shop secondhand
for it.

As I know nothing about laptops and small computers, whether they be
netbooks, notebooks or ultra mini PCs, any experiences are welcome. Are
there things I should be aware of concerning JAWS when looking for laptops
or smaller PCs? E.g., video cards, onboard software that might be a problem,
etc.?

Thanks.

Jean

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Re: [Bulk] what to o when win 7 won't talk on startup

Dave...
 

Robert,

Okay, first after initial power-on let it quiet down so there's no disc
activity.
Then press Escape.
If the system starts chattering along with a lot of disc activity you may
have managed to get past the startup screen.
When it quiets down again try Ctrl+Alt+J.
Hopefully JAWS starts then.

Another thing you might try if the above does not work...

Again wait for the computer to settle down after the power-on.
Then press Windows +U
Then press Alt+N
Hopefully Narrator will start talking so you can muddle through the rest.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Logue" <bobcat11@telusplanet.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 15:36
Subject: [Bulk] what to o when win 7 won't talk on startup


My computer was working well enough. But I just installed a windows
security update and now it won't talk when booting. No windows sound
either.

To further complicate things. I recently added a new user account and
removed my original account. I'm giving the system away and wanted to clean
it up. It was working ok with the new account till I rebooted after the
windows update. Hope I get some eyes on this. Have to connect a monitor and
mouse just to get someone to look at it.

Just wondering if there are any magic keystrokes at the start-up screen to
get Windows talking.

Bob


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Re: [Bulk] Read and Read

Dave...
 

Kerri,

Was that "Helloquence" intentional? There is no Heaven in Eloquence, but
neither is there a Hell.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerri" <kootenaycreek@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 15:51
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Read and Read


I personally find the Helloquence does it really well but I use my Braille
display mostly so don't have this issue.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-01-19, at 3:44 PM, "deadcatbounce" <JAWS@ca.rr.com> wrote:

JAWS pronounces things a lot better than a lot of people I know do, so the
occasional flub doesn't really bother me too much.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: Read and Read


like many words in english, pronunciation changes depending on context,
present past or future tense etc. It's up to your synthesizer to
determine how to pronounce these things. Some do it better than others.
If you don't like how Eloquence handles these things, try another one.

--------------------------------------------------
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Re: Read and Read

Kerri <kootenaycreek@...>
 

I personally find the Helloquence does it really well but I use my Braille display mostly so don't have this issue.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-01-19, at 3:44 PM, "deadcatbounce" <JAWS@ca.rr.com> wrote:

JAWS pronounces things a lot better than a lot of people I know do, so the occasional flub doesn't really bother me too much.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: Read and Read


like many words in english, pronunciation changes depending on context, present past or future tense etc. It's up to your synthesizer to determine how to pronounce these things. Some do it better than others. If you don't like how Eloquence handles these things, try another one.

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Re: QuickBooksand quicken accessibility for JAWS

Marilyn Womble
 

Thank you for all your efforts to make Quicken accessible to us who cannot read print. It is a program that I need to use.
Marilyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Coe" <charlesmar@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:42 PM
Subject: RE: QuickBooksand quicken accessibility for JAWS


Hi John,

This is a very worthwhile project indeed that I am certain will be a big
leap forward for many blind individuals looking to start their own business.
Also to those who already have a job or business.

You are to be commended for your efforts and should be compensated for such
an achievement.

Continued Good Luck. -----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:53 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: QuickBooksand quicken accessibility for JAWS

I might as well announce it but Quickbooks and Quicken scripts are on the
way, however I am not releasing them as of yet.
They are still in testing and development.
The quickbooks scripts are towards the end of development and testing but
quicken is more of a challenge. Quicken uses a lot of graphics and it takes
time to find them all to label them my special way. Quickbooks works
wonderfully with 2011 and development for Quicken 2012 is going good so far.
Quickbooks 2012 is coming soon.
The NFB National Federation of the Blind is participating in this particular
project. I flew out to Baltimore and they were very interested in this new
development. I might be coming under fire for even releasing this
information, but I'm not scared. I have complete faith that what I'm doing
for the blind community is justified and backed up legally.
Besides, wouldn't you all like the option to use such mainstream software
that could even give you more freedom?

John Martyn
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of curtis jackson
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: QuickBooks accessibility

Does anyone know if QuickBooks is accessible with jaws yet or if scripts
have been written for it

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Re: Read and Read

deadcatbounce <JAWS@...>
 

JAWS pronounces things a lot better than a lot of people I know do, so the occasional flub doesn't really bother me too much.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: Read and Read


like many words in english, pronunciation changes depending on context, present past or future tense etc. It's up to your synthesizer to determine how to pronounce these things. Some do it better than others. If you don't like how Eloquence handles these things, try another one.

--------------------------------------------------
CTS MASTERING: PROFESSIONAL MIXING AND MASTERING! Clear True Sound: www.ctsmastering.com --

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what to o when win 7 won't talk on startup

Robert Logue <bobcat11@...>
 

My computer was working well enough. But I just installed a windows security update and now it won't talk when booting. No windows sound either.

To further complicate things. I recently added a new user account and removed my original account. I'm giving the system away and wanted to clean it up. It was working ok with the new account till I rebooted after the windows update. Hope I get some eyes on this. Have to connect a monitor and mouse just to get someone to look at it.

Just wondering if there are any magic keystrokes at the start-up screen to get Windows talking.

Bob


Re: [Bulk] buying a laptop: was new on the list

Jean Menzies <jemenzies@...>
 

Hi Dave,

Yes, I know the cost is more. But FS gave me the price for either upgrade
from where I'm at. So, my question. Does it make sense from the operating
system point of view? For personal use, is it better to just stay with the
standard editions of both Jaws and operating system? Or to rephrase, what do
the professional versions of the operating systems provide. Is it just more
for networking and things like that?

Jean

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar in the Workshop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: buying a laptop: was new on the list


Jean,

If you have the home edition then you need to stick with the Home or (not
Professional) version of Windows. Upgrades to the pro version in both JAWS
and Windows costs more.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@shaw.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 14:28
Subject: [Bulk] Re: buying a laptop: was new on the list


Dean, Nickus and Dave,

Thanks for all your advice. I admit the numbers and specs don't mean a lot
to me at this point, but I appreciate having this as a starting point. One
more question. Is it possible to specify the version of Windows, e.g.,
professional or home version, depending on which version of Jaws I go with?
Right now I have the Jaws standard version, and it is cheaper for me to
upgrade and stay with the standard flavour of Jaws. Or is there definite
benefit to going the professional version route? FYI, the costs are mine,
not any funding program.

Jean


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Martineau" <dean@topdotenterprises.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:51 PM
Subject: buying a laptop: was new on the list


I happen to be a big fan of Toshiba laptops, but in fact all laptops are
made by a few manufacturers and then branded, so it may not matter.

Full'size laptops including keypads are quite common nowadays. Simply check
the description if ordering online or specify if dealing with a store.

If buying hands'on, it´s good to see what kinds of extra keys the laptop
has. Some have capacititave buttons, activated by touch, that turn wiFi on
and off, mute, change volume, etc. If yours has them, you can put dots on
them and use them once you learn their order. It is wise to do this because
otherwise you might inadvertently touch the WiFi button deactivating Wifi,
and not be good at touching the right button again to reactivate it.

To keep this on topic, I'm not aware of any problem you'll face when buying
a laptop to use with JAWS 13. I don't think you can go wrong.

Dean
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:55 PM
To: JFW list
Subject: new on the list

Hello all,

I joined this list a few days ago, and am pleased to recognize a few names
from other lists and previous JFW lists.

I will be upgrading my Jaws sometime this year from version 8 to 13. I feel
it will be almost like relearning everything, as so much has been added
since version 8.

As part of my upgrade, I will also be buying a new computer, and would like
anyone's recommendations for the following 2 items.

1. I want to get a laptop preferrably with a keypad if such a thing exists.
Otherwise, well differentiated keys, good battery life, and durable. A
full-sized laptop is fine.

2. I am also looking for a small netbook that will have more limited use. I
want the netbook to be small and durable with a reasonably tactile keyboard.
This device does not need to be as new, as I am willing to shop secondhand
for it.

As I know nothing about laptops and small computers, whether they be
netbooks, notebooks or ultra mini PCs, any experiences are welcome. Are
there things I should be aware of concerning JAWS when looking for laptops
or smaller PCs? E.g., video cards, onboard software that might be a problem,
etc.?

Thanks.

Jean

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Re: [Bulk] buying a laptop: was new on the list

Dave...
 

Jean,

If you have the home edition then you need to stick with the Home or (not
Professional) version of Windows. Upgrades to the pro version in both JAWS
and Windows costs more.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@shaw.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 14:28
Subject: [Bulk] Re: buying a laptop: was new on the list


Dean, Nickus and Dave,

Thanks for all your advice. I admit the numbers and specs don't mean a lot
to me at this point, but I appreciate having this as a starting point. One
more question. Is it possible to specify the version of Windows, e.g.,
professional or home version, depending on which version of Jaws I go with?
Right now I have the Jaws standard version, and it is cheaper for me to
upgrade and stay with the standard flavour of Jaws. Or is there definite
benefit to going the professional version route? FYI, the costs are mine,
not any funding program.

Jean


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Martineau" <dean@topdotenterprises.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:51 PM
Subject: buying a laptop: was new on the list


I happen to be a big fan of Toshiba laptops, but in fact all laptops are
made by a few manufacturers and then branded, so it may not matter.

Full'size laptops including keypads are quite common nowadays. Simply check
the description if ordering online or specify if dealing with a store.

If buying hands'on, it´s good to see what kinds of extra keys the laptop
has. Some have capacititave buttons, activated by touch, that turn wiFi on
and off, mute, change volume, etc. If yours has them, you can put dots on
them and use them once you learn their order. It is wise to do this because
otherwise you might inadvertently touch the WiFi button deactivating Wifi,
and not be good at touching the right button again to reactivate it.

To keep this on topic, I'm not aware of any problem you'll face when buying
a laptop to use with JAWS 13. I don't think you can go wrong.

Dean
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:55 PM
To: JFW list
Subject: new on the list

Hello all,

I joined this list a few days ago, and am pleased to recognize a few names
from other lists and previous JFW lists.

I will be upgrading my Jaws sometime this year from version 8 to 13. I feel
it will be almost like relearning everything, as so much has been added
since version 8.

As part of my upgrade, I will also be buying a new computer, and would like
anyone's recommendations for the following 2 items.

1. I want to get a laptop preferrably with a keypad if such a thing exists.
Otherwise, well differentiated keys, good battery life, and durable. A
full-sized laptop is fine.

2. I am also looking for a small netbook that will have more limited use. I
want the netbook to be small and durable with a reasonably tactile keyboard.
This device does not need to be as new, as I am willing to shop secondhand
for it.

As I know nothing about laptops and small computers, whether they be
netbooks, notebooks or ultra mini PCs, any experiences are welcome. Are
there things I should be aware of concerning JAWS when looking for laptops
or smaller PCs? E.g., video cards, onboard software that might be a problem,
etc.?

Thanks.

Jean

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Re: buying a laptop: was new on the list

Jean Menzies <jemenzies@...>
 

Dean, Nickus and Dave,

Thanks for all your advice. I admit the numbers and specs don't mean a lot
to me at this point, but I appreciate having this as a starting point. One
more question. Is it possible to specify the version of Windows, e.g.,
professional or home version, depending on which version of Jaws I go with?
Right now I have the Jaws standard version, and it is cheaper for me to
upgrade and stay with the standard flavour of Jaws. Or is there definite
benefit to going the professional version route? FYI, the costs are mine,
not any funding program.

Jean

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From: "Dean Martineau" <dean@topdotenterprises.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:51 PM
Subject: buying a laptop: was new on the list


I happen to be a big fan of Toshiba laptops, but in fact all laptops are
made by a few manufacturers and then branded, so it may not matter.

Full'size laptops including keypads are quite common nowadays. Simply check
the description if ordering online or specify if dealing with a store.

If buying hands'on, it´s good to see what kinds of extra keys the laptop
has. Some have capacititave buttons, activated by touch, that turn wiFi on
and off, mute, change volume, etc. If yours has them, you can put dots on
them and use them once you learn their order. It is wise to do this because
otherwise you might inadvertently touch the WiFi button deactivating Wifi,
and not be good at touching the right button again to reactivate it.

To keep this on topic, I'm not aware of any problem you'll face when buying
a laptop to use with JAWS 13. I don't think you can go wrong.

Dean
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:55 PM
To: JFW list
Subject: new on the list

Hello all,

I joined this list a few days ago, and am pleased to recognize a few names
from other lists and previous JFW lists.

I will be upgrading my Jaws sometime this year from version 8 to 13. I feel
it will be almost like relearning everything, as so much has been added
since version 8.

As part of my upgrade, I will also be buying a new computer, and would like
anyone's recommendations for the following 2 items.

1. I want to get a laptop preferrably with a keypad if such a thing exists.
Otherwise, well differentiated keys, good battery life, and durable. A
full-sized laptop is fine.

2. I am also looking for a small netbook that will have more limited use. I
want the netbook to be small and durable with a reasonably tactile keyboard.
This device does not need to be as new, as I am willing to shop secondhand
for it.

As I know nothing about laptops and small computers, whether they be
netbooks, notebooks or ultra mini PCs, any experiences are welcome. Are
there things I should be aware of concerning JAWS when looking for laptops
or smaller PCs? E.g., video cards, onboard software that might be a problem,
etc.?

Thanks.

Jean

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QuickBooks accessibility

Raewyn Whisker <Raewyn.Whisker@...>
 

Hello Curtis, Marilyn, Chris and everyone interested,



I have to say it is good news to hear that someone is making QuickBooks
more accessible, but please remember, that when a script is written it
is quite often relevant for that version only. This is not to say that
is the case here, but it is quite often.



As a lot of you will know I am the representative of Accomplish
CashManager, and I just wanted to remind everyone that CashManager is a
product that is accessible out of the box - no scripts required to make
it work at all.



We have been working with the National Federation of the Blind, the
Blind Merchants Association, and all the other major organisations
within America to ensure our product does the job required of it.



If anyone wants to have a play with the product you can download a trial
without any obligation. Go to either our website
www.accomplishglobal.com or our distributors website
http://www.handytech.us/new.html#cashmanager



If you want to hear what some of our current customers think about the
product, please have a read of these testimonials.
http://us.accomplishglobal.com/about/what-people-are-saying-about-cashma
nager.html





Regards Raewyn Whisker

Account Manager

Accomplish Limited



Phone +64 9 571 4560 X 715

Email raewyn.whisker@accomplishglobal.com
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Re: QuickBooksand quicken accessibility for JAWS

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

that is admirable John, and after seeing your excellent work with iTunes, I know they will be a success. Financial independence is important for anyone, blind or sighted! :)
Just let us know if you need a few bucks to help out.


At 08:22 AM 1/19/2012, you wrote:
We'll see how it pans out. My goal is to make this as close to free that I
can.
John
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Re: Read and Read

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

like many words in english, pronunciation changes depending on context, present past or future tense etc. It's up to your synthesizer to determine how to pronounce these things. Some do it better than others. If you don't like how Eloquence handles these things, try another one.

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