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what to o when win 7 won't talk on startup

Robert Logue <bobcat11@...>
 

My computer was working well enough. But I just installed a windows security update and now it won't talk when booting. No windows sound either.

To further complicate things. I recently added a new user account and removed my original account. I'm giving the system away and wanted to clean it up. It was working ok with the new account till I rebooted after the windows update. Hope I get some eyes on this. Have to connect a monitor and mouse just to get someone to look at it.

Just wondering if there are any magic keystrokes at the start-up screen to get Windows talking.

Bob


Re: [Bulk] buying a laptop: was new on the list

Jean Menzies <jemenzies@...>
 

Hi Dave,

Yes, I know the cost is more. But FS gave me the price for either upgrade
from where I'm at. So, my question. Does it make sense from the operating
system point of view? For personal use, is it better to just stay with the
standard editions of both Jaws and operating system? Or to rephrase, what do
the professional versions of the operating systems provide. Is it just more
for networking and things like that?

Jean

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: buying a laptop: was new on the list


Jean,

If you have the home edition then you need to stick with the Home or (not
Professional) version of Windows. Upgrades to the pro version in both JAWS
and Windows costs more.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@shaw.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 14:28
Subject: [Bulk] Re: buying a laptop: was new on the list


Dean, Nickus and Dave,

Thanks for all your advice. I admit the numbers and specs don't mean a lot
to me at this point, but I appreciate having this as a starting point. One
more question. Is it possible to specify the version of Windows, e.g.,
professional or home version, depending on which version of Jaws I go with?
Right now I have the Jaws standard version, and it is cheaper for me to
upgrade and stay with the standard flavour of Jaws. Or is there definite
benefit to going the professional version route? FYI, the costs are mine,
not any funding program.

Jean


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Martineau" <dean@topdotenterprises.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:51 PM
Subject: buying a laptop: was new on the list


I happen to be a big fan of Toshiba laptops, but in fact all laptops are
made by a few manufacturers and then branded, so it may not matter.

Full'size laptops including keypads are quite common nowadays. Simply check
the description if ordering online or specify if dealing with a store.

If buying hands'on, it´s good to see what kinds of extra keys the laptop
has. Some have capacititave buttons, activated by touch, that turn wiFi on
and off, mute, change volume, etc. If yours has them, you can put dots on
them and use them once you learn their order. It is wise to do this because
otherwise you might inadvertently touch the WiFi button deactivating Wifi,
and not be good at touching the right button again to reactivate it.

To keep this on topic, I'm not aware of any problem you'll face when buying
a laptop to use with JAWS 13. I don't think you can go wrong.

Dean
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On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:55 PM
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Subject: new on the list

Hello all,

I joined this list a few days ago, and am pleased to recognize a few names
from other lists and previous JFW lists.

I will be upgrading my Jaws sometime this year from version 8 to 13. I feel
it will be almost like relearning everything, as so much has been added
since version 8.

As part of my upgrade, I will also be buying a new computer, and would like
anyone's recommendations for the following 2 items.

1. I want to get a laptop preferrably with a keypad if such a thing exists.
Otherwise, well differentiated keys, good battery life, and durable. A
full-sized laptop is fine.

2. I am also looking for a small netbook that will have more limited use. I
want the netbook to be small and durable with a reasonably tactile keyboard.
This device does not need to be as new, as I am willing to shop secondhand
for it.

As I know nothing about laptops and small computers, whether they be
netbooks, notebooks or ultra mini PCs, any experiences are welcome. Are
there things I should be aware of concerning JAWS when looking for laptops
or smaller PCs? E.g., video cards, onboard software that might be a problem,
etc.?

Thanks.

Jean

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Re: [Bulk] buying a laptop: was new on the list

Dave...
 

Jean,

If you have the home edition then you need to stick with the Home or (not
Professional) version of Windows. Upgrades to the pro version in both JAWS
and Windows costs more.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@shaw.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 14:28
Subject: [Bulk] Re: buying a laptop: was new on the list


Dean, Nickus and Dave,

Thanks for all your advice. I admit the numbers and specs don't mean a lot
to me at this point, but I appreciate having this as a starting point. One
more question. Is it possible to specify the version of Windows, e.g.,
professional or home version, depending on which version of Jaws I go with?
Right now I have the Jaws standard version, and it is cheaper for me to
upgrade and stay with the standard flavour of Jaws. Or is there definite
benefit to going the professional version route? FYI, the costs are mine,
not any funding program.

Jean


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Martineau" <dean@topdotenterprises.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:51 PM
Subject: buying a laptop: was new on the list


I happen to be a big fan of Toshiba laptops, but in fact all laptops are
made by a few manufacturers and then branded, so it may not matter.

Full'size laptops including keypads are quite common nowadays. Simply check
the description if ordering online or specify if dealing with a store.

If buying hands'on, it´s good to see what kinds of extra keys the laptop
has. Some have capacititave buttons, activated by touch, that turn wiFi on
and off, mute, change volume, etc. If yours has them, you can put dots on
them and use them once you learn their order. It is wise to do this because
otherwise you might inadvertently touch the WiFi button deactivating Wifi,
and not be good at touching the right button again to reactivate it.

To keep this on topic, I'm not aware of any problem you'll face when buying
a laptop to use with JAWS 13. I don't think you can go wrong.

Dean
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On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:55 PM
To: JFW list
Subject: new on the list

Hello all,

I joined this list a few days ago, and am pleased to recognize a few names
from other lists and previous JFW lists.

I will be upgrading my Jaws sometime this year from version 8 to 13. I feel
it will be almost like relearning everything, as so much has been added
since version 8.

As part of my upgrade, I will also be buying a new computer, and would like
anyone's recommendations for the following 2 items.

1. I want to get a laptop preferrably with a keypad if such a thing exists.
Otherwise, well differentiated keys, good battery life, and durable. A
full-sized laptop is fine.

2. I am also looking for a small netbook that will have more limited use. I
want the netbook to be small and durable with a reasonably tactile keyboard.
This device does not need to be as new, as I am willing to shop secondhand
for it.

As I know nothing about laptops and small computers, whether they be
netbooks, notebooks or ultra mini PCs, any experiences are welcome. Are
there things I should be aware of concerning JAWS when looking for laptops
or smaller PCs? E.g., video cards, onboard software that might be a problem,
etc.?

Thanks.

Jean

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Re: buying a laptop: was new on the list

Jean Menzies <jemenzies@...>
 

Dean, Nickus and Dave,

Thanks for all your advice. I admit the numbers and specs don't mean a lot
to me at this point, but I appreciate having this as a starting point. One
more question. Is it possible to specify the version of Windows, e.g.,
professional or home version, depending on which version of Jaws I go with?
Right now I have the Jaws standard version, and it is cheaper for me to
upgrade and stay with the standard flavour of Jaws. Or is there definite
benefit to going the professional version route? FYI, the costs are mine,
not any funding program.

Jean

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Martineau" <dean@topdotenterprises.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:51 PM
Subject: buying a laptop: was new on the list


I happen to be a big fan of Toshiba laptops, but in fact all laptops are
made by a few manufacturers and then branded, so it may not matter.

Full'size laptops including keypads are quite common nowadays. Simply check
the description if ordering online or specify if dealing with a store.

If buying hands'on, it´s good to see what kinds of extra keys the laptop
has. Some have capacititave buttons, activated by touch, that turn wiFi on
and off, mute, change volume, etc. If yours has them, you can put dots on
them and use them once you learn their order. It is wise to do this because
otherwise you might inadvertently touch the WiFi button deactivating Wifi,
and not be good at touching the right button again to reactivate it.

To keep this on topic, I'm not aware of any problem you'll face when buying
a laptop to use with JAWS 13. I don't think you can go wrong.

Dean
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On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:55 PM
To: JFW list
Subject: new on the list

Hello all,

I joined this list a few days ago, and am pleased to recognize a few names
from other lists and previous JFW lists.

I will be upgrading my Jaws sometime this year from version 8 to 13. I feel
it will be almost like relearning everything, as so much has been added
since version 8.

As part of my upgrade, I will also be buying a new computer, and would like
anyone's recommendations for the following 2 items.

1. I want to get a laptop preferrably with a keypad if such a thing exists.
Otherwise, well differentiated keys, good battery life, and durable. A
full-sized laptop is fine.

2. I am also looking for a small netbook that will have more limited use. I
want the netbook to be small and durable with a reasonably tactile keyboard.
This device does not need to be as new, as I am willing to shop secondhand
for it.

As I know nothing about laptops and small computers, whether they be
netbooks, notebooks or ultra mini PCs, any experiences are welcome. Are
there things I should be aware of concerning JAWS when looking for laptops
or smaller PCs? E.g., video cards, onboard software that might be a problem,
etc.?

Thanks.

Jean

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QuickBooks accessibility

Raewyn Whisker <Raewyn.Whisker@...>
 

Hello Curtis, Marilyn, Chris and everyone interested,



I have to say it is good news to hear that someone is making QuickBooks
more accessible, but please remember, that when a script is written it
is quite often relevant for that version only. This is not to say that
is the case here, but it is quite often.



As a lot of you will know I am the representative of Accomplish
CashManager, and I just wanted to remind everyone that CashManager is a
product that is accessible out of the box - no scripts required to make
it work at all.



We have been working with the National Federation of the Blind, the
Blind Merchants Association, and all the other major organisations
within America to ensure our product does the job required of it.



If anyone wants to have a play with the product you can download a trial
without any obligation. Go to either our website
www.accomplishglobal.com or our distributors website
http://www.handytech.us/new.html#cashmanager



If you want to hear what some of our current customers think about the
product, please have a read of these testimonials.
http://us.accomplishglobal.com/about/what-people-are-saying-about-cashma
nager.html





Regards Raewyn Whisker

Account Manager

Accomplish Limited



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Re: QuickBooksand quicken accessibility for JAWS

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

that is admirable John, and after seeing your excellent work with iTunes, I know they will be a success. Financial independence is important for anyone, blind or sighted! :)
Just let us know if you need a few bucks to help out.


At 08:22 AM 1/19/2012, you wrote:
We'll see how it pans out. My goal is to make this as close to free that I
can.
John
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Re: Read and Read

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

like many words in english, pronunciation changes depending on context, present past or future tense etc. It's up to your synthesizer to determine how to pronounce these things. Some do it better than others. If you don't like how Eloquence handles these things, try another one.

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buying a laptop: was new on the list

Dean Martineau <dean@...>
 

I happen to be a big fan of Toshiba laptops, but in fact all laptops are
made by a few manufacturers and then branded, so it may not matter.

Full'size laptops including keypads are quite common nowadays. Simply check
the description if ordering online or specify if dealing with a store.

If buying hands'on, it´s good to see what kinds of extra keys the laptop
has. Some have capacititave buttons, activated by touch, that turn wiFi on
and off, mute, change volume, etc. If yours has them, you can put dots on
them and use them once you learn their order. It is wise to do this because
otherwise you might inadvertently touch the WiFi button deactivating Wifi,
and not be good at touching the right button again to reactivate it.

To keep this on topic, I'm not aware of any problem you'll face when buying
a laptop to use with JAWS 13. I don't think you can go wrong.

Dean
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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Jean Menzies
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:55 PM
To: JFW list
Subject: new on the list

Hello all,

I joined this list a few days ago, and am pleased to recognize a few names
from other lists and previous JFW lists.

I will be upgrading my Jaws sometime this year from version 8 to 13. I feel
it will be almost like relearning everything, as so much has been added
since version 8.

As part of my upgrade, I will also be buying a new computer, and would like
anyone's recommendations for the following 2 items.

1. I want to get a laptop preferrably with a keypad if such a thing exists.
Otherwise, well differentiated keys, good battery life, and durable. A
full-sized laptop is fine.

2. I am also looking for a small netbook that will have more limited use. I
want the netbook to be small and durable with a reasonably tactile keyboard.
This device does not need to be as new, as I am willing to shop secondhand
for it.

As I know nothing about laptops and small computers, whether they be
netbooks, notebooks or ultra mini PCs, any experiences are welcome. Are
there things I should be aware of concerning JAWS when looking for laptops
or smaller PCs? E.g., video cards, onboard software that might be a problem,
etc.?

Thanks.

Jean

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Re: Laptop Recommendation

Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@...>
 

Hi guys
I see a few problems with the mentioned Dell laptop and have a few
recommendations which would give you a better machine.
Firstly it comes with 32 bit windows which can only use 3 GB of the 4
GB installed RAM so I would recommend 64 bit windows. Then another
thing, as a jaws user you don't need a graphics card like that, you
can rather get one with a smaller graphics card and a bigger hard
drive maybe 750 GB or even a TB in this laptop class. The final thing
which is a small technical point and depends what you'll use the
machine for, the processor is 2.2 GHz core i7 with 6 MB cash, if
possible rather look for something with 8 MB cash even if it's only a
2 GHz core i7.
I'm pritty clued up on computers so just ask if you need any further help.

Nickus

On 1/19/12, Farfar in the Workshop <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Jean,

Laptop: Dell E6520 has a numeric keypad and well-sculptured keys.
It's a bit large because of the keypad. Also works with a docking station
(port replicator) for quick disconnect, and you can purchase an additional
battery "slice" for longer portable operating time. I really like this one,
and the Dell Latitude is a workhorse for the business world.

Here are some of the specs:

Dell Latitude E6520
Processor: Intel Core i7-2720QM, 2.20GHz, 6MB Cache
Memory: 4.0GB, DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM, 2 DIMM
Keyboard: Internal English Keyboard
Video Card: nVidia NVS 4200M 512MB DDR3 Discrete Graphics
Hard Drive: 320GB Hard Drive, 7200RPM
LCD HD+/FHD Cover, 15.6in FHD+(1920x1080) Anti-Glare LED-backlit
Operating System: Genuine Windows 7 Professional, 32-bit
Modem: Internal MDC Modem for
CD-ROM or DVD-ROM Drive: 8X DVD+/-RW
Sound Card: Integrated webcam with single digital microphone
Processor Cable: Intel WiFi Link 6205 (802.11a/g/n 2X2) 1/2 MiniCard for
VPRO Latitude E/Mobile Precision (430-3961)
3 Year Warranty 9-Cell (87WH) Primary Lithium Ion Battery for Latitude EXX20

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@shaw.ca>
To: "JFW list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:54
Subject: [Bulk] new on the list


Hello all,

I joined this list a few days ago, and am pleased to recognize a few names
from other lists and previous JFW lists.

I will be upgrading my Jaws sometime this year from version 8 to 13. I feel
it will be almost like relearning everything, as so much has been added
since version 8.

As part of my upgrade, I will also be buying a new computer, and would like
anyone's recommendations for the following 2 items.

1. I want to get a laptop preferrably with a keypad if such a thing exists.
Otherwise, well differentiated keys, good battery life, and durable. A
full-sized laptop is fine.

2. I am also looking for a small netbook that will have more limited use. I
want the netbook to be small and durable with a reasonably tactile keyboard.
This device does not need to be as new, as I am willing to shop secondhand
for it.

As I know nothing about laptops and small computers, whether they be
netbooks, notebooks or ultra mini PCs, any experiences are welcome. Are
there things I should be aware of concerning JAWS when looking for laptops
or smaller PCs? E.g., video cards, onboard software that might be a problem,
etc.?

Thanks.

Jean

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Laptop Recommendation

Dave...
 

Jean,

Laptop: Dell E6520 has a numeric keypad and well-sculptured keys.
It's a bit large because of the keypad. Also works with a docking station
(port replicator) for quick disconnect, and you can purchase an additional
battery "slice" for longer portable operating time. I really like this one,
and the Dell Latitude is a workhorse for the business world.

Here are some of the specs:

Dell Latitude E6520
Processor: Intel Core i7-2720QM, 2.20GHz, 6MB Cache
Memory: 4.0GB, DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM, 2 DIMM
Keyboard: Internal English Keyboard
Video Card: nVidia NVS 4200M 512MB DDR3 Discrete Graphics
Hard Drive: 320GB Hard Drive, 7200RPM
LCD HD+/FHD Cover, 15.6in FHD+(1920x1080) Anti-Glare LED-backlit
Operating System: Genuine Windows 7 Professional, 32-bit
Modem: Internal MDC Modem for
CD-ROM or DVD-ROM Drive: 8X DVD+/-RW
Sound Card: Integrated webcam with single digital microphone
Processor Cable: Intel WiFi Link 6205 (802.11a/g/n 2X2) 1/2 MiniCard for
VPRO Latitude E/Mobile Precision (430-3961)
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Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:54
Subject: [Bulk] new on the list


Hello all,

I joined this list a few days ago, and am pleased to recognize a few names
from other lists and previous JFW lists.

I will be upgrading my Jaws sometime this year from version 8 to 13. I feel
it will be almost like relearning everything, as so much has been added
since version 8.

As part of my upgrade, I will also be buying a new computer, and would like
anyone's recommendations for the following 2 items.

1. I want to get a laptop preferrably with a keypad if such a thing exists.
Otherwise, well differentiated keys, good battery life, and durable. A
full-sized laptop is fine.

2. I am also looking for a small netbook that will have more limited use. I
want the netbook to be small and durable with a reasonably tactile keyboard.
This device does not need to be as new, as I am willing to shop secondhand
for it.

As I know nothing about laptops and small computers, whether they be
netbooks, notebooks or ultra mini PCs, any experiences are welcome. Are
there things I should be aware of concerning JAWS when looking for laptops
or smaller PCs? E.g., video cards, onboard software that might be a problem,
etc.?

Thanks.

Jean

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Jean Menzies <jemenzies@...>
 

Hello all,

I joined this list a few days ago, and am pleased to recognize a few names from other lists and previous JFW lists.

I will be upgrading my Jaws sometime this year from version 8 to 13. I feel it will be almost like relearning everything, as so much has been added since version 8.

As part of my upgrade, I will also be buying a new computer, and would like anyone's recommendations for the following 2 items.

1. I want to get a laptop preferrably with a keypad if such a thing exists. Otherwise, well differentiated keys, good battery life, and durable. A full-sized laptop is fine.

2. I am also looking for a small netbook that will have more limited use. I want the netbook to be small and durable with a reasonably tactile keyboard. This device does not need to be as new, as I am willing to shop secondhand for it.

As I know nothing about laptops and small computers, whether they be netbooks, notebooks or ultra mini PCs, any experiences are welcome. Are there things I should be aware of concerning JAWS when looking for laptops or smaller PCs? E.g., video cards, onboard software that might be a problem, etc.?

Thanks.

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Re: QuickBooksand quicken accessibility for JAWS

Charles Coe
 

Hi John,

This is a very worthwhile project indeed that I am certain will be a big
leap forward for many blind individuals looking to start their own business.
Also to those who already have a job or business.

You are to be commended for your efforts and should be compensated for such
an achievement.

Continued Good Luck. -----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:53 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: QuickBooksand quicken accessibility for JAWS

I might as well announce it but Quickbooks and Quicken scripts are on the
way, however I am not releasing them as of yet.
They are still in testing and development.
The quickbooks scripts are towards the end of development and testing but
quicken is more of a challenge. Quicken uses a lot of graphics and it takes
time to find them all to label them my special way. Quickbooks works
wonderfully with 2011 and development for Quicken 2012 is going good so far.
Quickbooks 2012 is coming soon.
The NFB National Federation of the Blind is participating in this particular
project. I flew out to Baltimore and they were very interested in this new
development. I might be coming under fire for even releasing this
information, but I'm not scared. I have complete faith that what I'm doing
for the blind community is justified and backed up legally.
Besides, wouldn't you all like the option to use such mainstream software
that could even give you more freedom?

John Martyn
-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of curtis jackson
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: QuickBooks accessibility

Does anyone know if QuickBooks is accessible with jaws yet or if scripts
have been written for it

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Re: QuickBooksand quicken accessibility for JAWS

George B
 

awesome john, i was a tester for your blindtunes and use quicken all the
time who is testing for you?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-
jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Martyn
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 22:53
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: QuickBooksand quicken accessibility for JAWS

I might as well announce it but Quickbooks and Quicken scripts are on
the
way, however I am not releasing them as of yet.
They are still in testing and development.
The quickbooks scripts are towards the end of development and testing
but
quicken is more of a challenge. Quicken uses a lot of graphics and it
takes
time to find them all to label them my special way. Quickbooks works
wonderfully with 2011 and development for Quicken 2012 is going good so
far.
Quickbooks 2012 is coming soon.
The NFB National Federation of the Blind is participating in this
particular
project. I flew out to Baltimore and they were very interested in this
new
development. I might be coming under fire for even releasing this
information, but I'm not scared. I have complete faith that what I'm
doing
for the blind community is justified and backed up legally.
Besides, wouldn't you all like the option to use such mainstream
software
that could even give you more freedom?

John Martyn
-----Original Message-----
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jdh.com]
On Behalf Of curtis jackson
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: QuickBooks accessibility

Does anyone know if QuickBooks is accessible with jaws yet or if
scripts
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Re: Read and Read

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Sentence reading can behave differently from line reading. I think
Sentence is the default for Word, and may be the only choice. Another
word to notice is wind-either what one does to a watch, or that which
glows. Sentence mode is slightly better at judging context.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joni Colver
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:14 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Read and Read

I don't know a solution to this. The same problem exists with St. for
saint or street and Dr. for doctor or drive. You can have JAWS
pronounce any of these the same way every time, but that does not solve
the problem of which should be spoken in a particular context. It is
just one of those screen reader quirks we have to tolerate as far as I
have been able to determine.

Joni

-----Original Message-----
From: Dondi
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 4:21 AM
To: JAWS mailing list
Subject: Read and Read

Hello Everybody.



What does everybody do for the word read? When I type the word r e a d
my
JAWS13 always pronounces this word in the past tense as r e d. I have
gone so far as adding the word read to the dictionary and told JAWS to
pronounce it as r e e d. But that's very limiting as far as sounding
partly right. Is there a way to use read in both it's present and past
meanings.



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Re: Selecting text and files

dave grossoehme
 

The windows key+ the Pause key will take you to the system menu in windows 7. If you wish to print anything from anywhere in windows control+p will print for you. Control+f will find an item inside a window. A lot of times control+w will givfe a list of windows keys. Control+s when you are in a document will save your information. Control+b will let you type something in bold depend upon what version of Word you are using.
I hope these will help.
Your Friend Dave


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From: "Dondi" <zidnod63@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:46 PM
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Selecting text and files

Hi Dave,

Yes, if you have any more hotkey combinations I would be interested in them.
I never knew about the control+delete that one goes right along with
control+back space.

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of dave grossoehme
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Selecting text and files


Are you looking for hotkeys in general for any application? However, other
hotkeys for a word or text document are control+a to select all the text or
control+s to save your document

or control+o to open a document or application. If you wish to delete
information in a document control+d will activate this action. If this is
what you are looking for let me know and I'll be glad your more hotkeys for
other actions.
Your Friend Dave
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Dondi" <zidnod63@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:38 PM
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Selecting text and files

Hi Mike,

First thanks for the list of text selecting key strokes. You wouldn't know
of any more of these windows key combinations such as.
Windows key+C append to clip board.
Windows key+K jump to book mark in a Word document.

Thanks.

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Mike & Barbara
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 6:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Selecting text and files

HI Dondi,

Here is a list of the mostly used text selection keystrokes.

Selecting / Highlighing text

Selecting a letter/character; Shift +left arrow selects prior character.
Shift + right arrow selects next character.

Selecting prior word; Insert/Jaws key, shift + left arrow or control,
shift, + left arrow.

Selecting next word; Insert/Jaws key, shift, + right arrow or control,
shift, + right arrow.

Selecting text from cursor to beginning of line; Shift + Home/7 key on
number pad.

Selecting text from cursor to end of line; Shift +End/1 on the number
pad.

Selecting text from cursor to the end of a document; Control, shift, +
end/1 key on the number pad.

Selecting text from cursor to the beginning of a document; Control,
shift,
+ home/7 key on the number pad.

Selecting more than 1 line of text; Hold the Shift key down while
arrowing
up or down until you have selected/highlighted the lines you want.

Selecting all text; Control + A. This keystroke will select all the text
in a document no matter the size or length of the document.

to select a page at a time: shift page up or down

If any of these are incorrect, someone please correct me or, if there are
more that can be added, someone please do so. Take care.
Mike




----- Original Message -----
From: Dondi
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:01 PM
Subject: RE: Selecting text and files


Hi,

Is there some where I can get the entire list of Windows key shortcuts
for
JAWS?

Dondi

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 1:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Selecting text and files

In fact, the Windows key is employed with a number of fantastic JAWS
keystrokes. One which I have come to use on an hourly basis is control
plus
windows plus k to mark a spot in a word document.
One may later jump back to that spot instantly with just windows plus k;
however, even more cool is the ability, in Word, to mark text from your
cursor to the marked spot, and it doesn't matter whether, in the
document,
your cursor is ahead of the marked spot or behind it or whether it is 4
words or 40 pages away. You mark text back to the marked spot with JAWS
key
plus space bar and then m.
Then, you can use control c to copy or control x to cut or windows c to
append.
Try it! You'll like it!


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 2:07 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Selecting text and files

Yes, theWindows key is the key which, when pressed by itself, launches
the
start menu. There are a good number of useful shortcut keys involving
it.
Win+c is the only one I know of that is a JAWS keystroke.

Dean


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of deadcatbounce
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 11:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Selecting text and files

I feel really stupid here. When you refer to the "windows key", is that
the
start menu key as well? I'm assuming it's not the insert key on the
number
pad. Duh!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@aol.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: Selecting text and files


> As a matter of fact, that did work. In the past I have tried to copy
> things to the clipboard after having previously done so and I was
> warned that it would overwrite what I already had there. Just now,
> though, I copied a line with control+c and then did the same thing
> with the Windows key using noncontiguous text and tested it by using
> control+v to put it into Wordpad. It did copy. This turns out to be
> handy to know. I could have used this bit of knowledge a long time
ago.
>
> On 1/13/2012 6:37 AM, Joni Colver wrote:
>> You can append multiple items to the clipboard the way Dean described
it.

>> I don't know if there is a limit, but I have added more than 2 items
>> before.
>>
>> Joni
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Roger Loran Bailey
>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:57 PM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>> Subject: Re: Selecting text and files
>>
>> What if you want to copy more than two items?
>>
>> On 1/12/2012 10:47 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:
>>> To collect text on the clipboard, copy the first chunk you want,
>>> then, after you have selected the next string you want on the
>>> clipboard, don't copy, but use the JAWS append to clipboard command,
>>> windows+c.
>>>
>>> Dean
>>
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Re: [Bulk] Read and Read

Dave...
 

Yes, this is all based on how well the speech engines were designed.
Contextual pronunciation is a step above simple word-for-word pronunciation,
and thereby requires greater processing power.

I suppose you could set up your own rules in the JAWS dictionary if you
added word combinations like "will read", "I read very", "I read the", or
"go read". However there will still be many word pairs that are pronounced
differently on their context, as Peter points out.

I just tested this by adding the phrase "I read very" and set it to "I reed
very" and it now distinguishes that phrase correctly in the sentence: I read
very well. However if I have a sentence like I read very few books last
year (the past tense of "to read" then of course it's wrong once again.

So it's proves to be a real rat-hole when trying to use the JAWS dictionary
to set up contextual-based phrase pronunciations except in fairly simple and
often-occurring mistakes.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

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From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 07:59
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Read and Read


One note on this, the realspeak voices sometimes get it right.

For instance the realspeak voices I have installed (fairly recent solo
direct if it matters) pronounces "It's time you go read the book"
correctly, but gets "Go read the book" wrong.

On 1/19/12, Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@gmail.com> wrote:
I wondered about this for a long time but just got use to it, funny
how if you type R E A D and press space it says it correctly and also
if you, well read by word with jaws and arrows it's also spoken
correctly.

On 1/19/12, Joni Colver <earlybird@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
I don't know a solution to this. The same problem exists with St. for
saint
or street and Dr. for doctor or drive. You can have JAWS pronounce any
of
these the same way every time, but that does not solve the problem of
which
should be spoken in a particular context. It is just one of those screen
reader quirks we have to tolerate as far as I have been able to
determine.

Joni

-----Original Message-----
From: Dondi
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 4:21 AM
To: JAWS mailing list
Subject: Read and Read

Hello Everybody.



What does everybody do for the word read? When I type the word r e a d my
JAWS13 always pronounces this word in the past tense as r e d. I have
gone
so far as adding the word read to the dictionary and told JAWS to
pronounce
it as r e e d. But that's very limiting as far as sounding partly right.
Is
there a way to use read in both it's present and past meanings.



Dondi


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Re: Read and Read

Soronel Haetir
 

One note on this, the realspeak voices sometimes get it right.

For instance the realspeak voices I have installed (fairly recent solo
direct if it matters) pronounces "It's time you go read the book"
correctly, but gets "Go read the book" wrong.

On 1/19/12, Nickus de Vos <bigboy529@gmail.com> wrote:
I wondered about this for a long time but just got use to it, funny
how if you type R E A D and press space it says it correctly and also
if you, well read by word with jaws and arrows it's also spoken
correctly.

On 1/19/12, Joni Colver <earlybird@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
I don't know a solution to this. The same problem exists with St. for
saint
or street and Dr. for doctor or drive. You can have JAWS pronounce any of
these the same way every time, but that does not solve the problem of
which
should be spoken in a particular context. It is just one of those screen
reader quirks we have to tolerate as far as I have been able to determine.

Joni

-----Original Message-----
From: Dondi
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 4:21 AM
To: JAWS mailing list
Subject: Read and Read

Hello Everybody.



What does everybody do for the word read? When I type the word r e a d my
JAWS13 always pronounces this word in the past tense as r e d. I have gone
so far as adding the word read to the dictionary and told JAWS to
pronounce
it as r e e d. But that's very limiting as far as sounding partly right.
Is
there a way to use read in both it's present and past meanings.



Dondi


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Re: [Bulk] AOL instant messenger 7.2 Jaws 13

Dave...
 

I guess not.
Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

----- Original Message -----
From: "O.Addison Gethers" <oag1rottie@hotmail.com>
To: "Jaws - 4" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 07:04
Subject: [Bulk] AOL instant messenger 7.2 Jaws 13


Hello All,
Is there any AOL instant messenger user in here that have aim version 7.2
with jaws 13? I'm having some little issue ,when I was chatting with a
friend ,when I send a message jaws say Hi Joe What's up? when Joe send me
message back jaws say nothing much cuzon without the name and time ,when I
press shift tab to history conversation window I read the message it's say
Joseph Gethers is available then when I arrow down it's say durangoadd64
2:12 p.m. Hi Joe what's up? then down arrow again it's say Joseph Gethers
2:14 p.m. nothing much cuzon when I'm in text edit window where I type in
message and send the message jaws is not saying durangoadd64 2:30 p.m. Hi
Heather How are you? when I heard Heather typing a message and send me the
message back jaws didn't say Heather Dana 2:34 p.m. Hi Addison I'm ok so
when I switch back to jaws 12 I noticed jaws say when I type a message and
send a message in the same window without going to history conversation
window jaws say durangoadd64 2:36 p.m. Pam Are you there? when Pam send
message back to me jaws say Pamela Benbow 2:40 p.m. Hi Adddison How is your
mom doing? How can I get jaws 13 to say like jaws 12 to say name,time and
message in the same window instead of going to history conversation window?
I hope I explain my situation with my issue with you all!! If you have any
suggestion and answer I will appreciated so much.


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AOL instant messenger 7.2 Jaws 13

O.Addison Gethers <oag1rottie@...>
 

Hello All,
Is there any AOL instant messenger user in here that have aim version 7.2 with jaws 13? I'm having some little issue ,when I was chatting with a friend ,when I send a message jaws say Hi Joe What's up? when Joe send me message back jaws say nothing much cuzon without the name and time ,when I press shift tab to history conversation window I read the message it's say Joseph Gethers is available then when I arrow down it's say durangoadd64 2:12 p.m. Hi Joe what's up? then down arrow again it's say Joseph Gethers 2:14 p.m. nothing much cuzon when I'm in text edit window where I type in message and send the message jaws is not saying durangoadd64 2:30 p.m. Hi Heather How are you? when I heard Heather typing a message and send me the message back jaws didn't say Heather Dana 2:34 p.m. Hi Addison I'm ok so when I switch back to jaws 12 I noticed jaws say when I type a message and send a message in the same window without going to history conversation window jaws say durangoadd64 2:36 p.m. Pam Are you there? when Pam send message back to me jaws say Pamela Benbow 2:40 p.m. Hi Adddison How is your mom doing? How can I get jaws 13 to say like jaws 12 to say name,time and message in the same window instead of going to history conversation window? I hope I explain my situation with my issue with you all!! If you have any suggestion and answer I will appreciated so much.


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Re: Word 2010 global settings

David <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

Hello there;
Normal Dot Dot) is the default or global template that Word uses to create a
blank document.
Normal.dot is always in use when Word is open, even if you are using another
template.
Normal.dot files commonly
become corrupt
you can check out the following link;
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291352

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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dondi
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:12 AM
To: JAWS mailing list
Subject: Word 2010 global settings

Hello Everybody,



I got a problem with Word 2010. I don't really use Word all that much but
the other day I was trying out the JAWS mark feature in a word document. I
think that this is where my problem began. Here's what it's doing

1) Start Word 2010.

2) Make no entries in the new blank document, just do a alt+F4 to
close Word 2010.

3) This is what the error message says at this point "Microsoft
Word dialog this file is in use by another application or user
(C:\users\veteran\app data\dot dot\normal dot dot) OK button to activate
press space bar".

4) Pressing space bar closes this error message.

5) The save as dialog opens. File name: edit combo normal dot dot
zero items to set the value use the arrow keys or type the value.

6) Pressing escape at this time closes this dialog box.

7) Doing another alt+F4 brings up the final warning message.

8) Microsoft Word dialog, changes have been made effect the
global template normal dot dot do you want to save those changes.

9) At this time I choose don't save and press space bar which
finally closes Word.



A couple of questions:

What's this global template normal dot dot?

What do the dot dots mean?





Has anybody had an experience with anything like this?



Dondi

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