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Time announcement

T. Civitello
 

Ever since the last Jaws 2019 update Jaws for some reason breaks out and talks every 60 seconds announcing the time. Don’t see anything in the settings about this. Anyone else having this occur?  Tom


Re: images in book

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

I only had one image in the word document. I had the text before the image and even after it. It couldn’t read anything. Should I put the images in some other type of document?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 12:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: images in book

 

Perhaps try recognizing one image at a time?

 

Not heard of the program.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 10:57 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: images in book

 

Hello, I’m using windows10, jaws 2018 and Vital Source to read a technical book which there are many figures that are images. Jaws is unable to read the images. I copyed the image and put into a word file. I then put the cursor on the file name and used Jaws OCR. It wasn’t able to read anything. Should I try some other method? I should say Vital Source is an application where books can be placed. There are options to put book marks, notes and other options. Cheers, Kevin


Re: images in book

ely.r@...
 

Kevin,

If the images are diagrams or photos there may be nothing there for an OCR program to convert to text. Not knowing what the technical manual may cover, the images could be true handwriting meaning not a common script font. The case there would be the same. Wish I had better news or advice.

Rick

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 1:57 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: images in book

 

Hello, I’m using windows10, jaws 2018 and Vital Source to read a technical book which there are many figures that are images. Jaws is unable to read the images. I copyed the image and put into a word file. I then put the cursor on the file name and used Jaws OCR. It wasn’t able to read anything. Should I try some other method? I should say Vital Source is an application where books can be placed. There are options to put book marks, notes and other options. Cheers, Kevin


Re: images in book

Ann Marie Medlar <amedlar1@...>
 

Hi just some suggestions.  I have KNFB Reader on desktop and also on IPhone.

If you have IPhone maybe SeeingAI?

Or maybe Openbook?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 2:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: images in book

 

Hi.

I don’t think JAWS oCR will work on word files like that.

You might have to take each of those images you copied and do the oCR process on them individually, as has been suggested.

Alternatively, a different piece of software might do the job better.

Something like Abbyy Finereader perhaps, but I don’t know as I still haven’t bought the programme.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: December 26, 2018 1:57 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: images in book

 

Hello, I’m using windows10, jaws 2018 and Vital Source to read a technical book which there are many figures that are images. Jaws is unable to read the images. I copyed the image and put into a word file. I then put the cursor on the file name and used Jaws OCR. It wasn’t able to read anything. Should I try some other method? I should say Vital Source is an application where books can be placed. There are options to put book marks, notes and other options. Cheers, Kevin


Re: images in book

JM Casey
 

Hi.

I don’t think JAWS oCR will work on word files like that.

You might have to take each of those images you copied and do the oCR process on them individually, as has been suggested.

Alternatively, a different piece of software might do the job better.

Something like Abbyy Finereader perhaps, but I don’t know as I still haven’t bought the programme.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: December 26, 2018 1:57 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: images in book

 

Hello, I’m using windows10, jaws 2018 and Vital Source to read a technical book which there are many figures that are images. Jaws is unable to read the images. I copyed the image and put into a word file. I then put the cursor on the file name and used Jaws OCR. It wasn’t able to read anything. Should I try some other method? I should say Vital Source is an application where books can be placed. There are options to put book marks, notes and other options. Cheers, Kevin


CSS HTML Validator

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Is anyone else using CSS HTML Validator?

I used it with Window-Eyes very successfully, but I cannot even get Jaws to read anything at all without someone sighted touching the mousepad.

If I activate the touch cursor, I can read one line, but that is it.

 

If anyone knows of any scripts, that would be great!

Richard

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 


Re: images in book

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

Perhaps try recognizing one image at a time?

 

Not heard of the program.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 10:57 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: images in book

 

Hello, I’m using windows10, jaws 2018 and Vital Source to read a technical book which there are many figures that are images. Jaws is unable to read the images. I copyed the image and put into a word file. I then put the cursor on the file name and used Jaws OCR. It wasn’t able to read anything. Should I try some other method? I should say Vital Source is an application where books can be placed. There are options to put book marks, notes and other options. Cheers, Kevin


images in book

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Hello, I’m using windows10, jaws 2018 and Vital Source to read a technical book which there are many figures that are images. Jaws is unable to read the images. I copyed the image and put into a word file. I then put the cursor on the file name and used Jaws OCR. It wasn’t able to read anything. Should I try some other method? I should say Vital Source is an application where books can be placed. There are options to put book marks, notes and other options. Cheers, Kevin


Re: Any good IDE's for C++ Development?

Ann Marie Medlar <amedlar1@...>
 

I did not go through links but perhaps a beginning:
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=JrUjXLWMM4Wq_QbIu4_4DQ&q=+tutoria
lspoint.com+C%2B%2B&btnK=Google+Search&oq=+tutorialspoint.com+C%2B%2B&gs_l=p
sy-ab.3..0i22i10i30j0l2.4763.29343..30954...1.0..0.272.1290.1j8j1......0....
1j2..gws-wiz.....6..35i39j0i22i30.Yuo5Ika9s7I

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott
Wheat
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 4:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any good IDE's for C++ Development?

You might try Eclipse. I haven't used it for C++, but have used it for Java
and php.
It doesn't work perfectly with JAWS, but it is usable.

Scott


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan
Morison
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any good IDE's for C++ Development?

Yes. I downloaded Visual Studio Community 2015, as that's how high my
machine can go up to. Any higher updates would break compatibility with my
current configuration of JAWS 15! And no, I don't have the funds to upgrade
JAWS either.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 8:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any good IDE's for C++ Development?

just a guess, did you download the correct one?

from the below link/address, there are 3 editions to download:

a fully-featured IDE for students, open-source and individual developers
which is the free one, Visual Studio Professional 2017 and Visual Studio
Enterprise 2017 are both trial versions.

https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/community/

-------- Original Message --------
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@comcast.net]
Sent: Sun, Dec 23, 2018 8:37 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Any good IDE's for C++ Development?

Hi, it's Annabelle.
Are there any IDE's out there for C++ development that are fully accessible
to screenreaders like JAWS? I've tried Visual Studio Community, but
unfortunately they deceived me when I downloaded it. The people at Microsoft
said it was free, but then after about 60 days, I found out it was actually
an evaluation, as a message came up saying "Your evaluation period has
expired." Even worse, my Microsoft account got suspended as a result of
so-called inactivity! I'd like to have an IDE which can compile programs for
all operating systems, won't install any bloatware, and most important of
all, won't take forever to install!
Visual Studio Community could compile for all operating systems, but
unfortunately it certainly succeeded in installing bloatware, and worst of
all, it took forever to install!


Re: Where can i start in creating jaws scripts for winzip!

Steve Matzura
 

To answer your older question first, make a detailed list of what you cannot do via standard Windows control navigation--tab key, arrow keys, shortcut keys, checkboxes  controllable with the spacebar, radio buttons and combo boxes navigable with arrow keys, menus that work in the standard way, etc., etc. Then, go through the manual and find out what functions you haven't discovered on your own, where they are, and, possibly with the help of a sighted assisstant, how to operate or perform those inaccessible functions. Then, use a tool like BX Toolbox or JAWS' own built-in window discovery tool, formerly known as the home row utilities, or even Windig, all of which will give you a hierarchy of JAWS-accessible elements, window names, window classes, control ID's, and other things you'll need in order to code your script's functions and features. This is basic programming 101.


To answer your question about labeling graphics, if the graphic in question has a tool tip, the JAWS Graphics Labeler will do the job for you.

Sometimes the menu bar at the top of a window will have a graphic associated with each pull-down menu, but since these graphics are just duplicates for activating the menus in question, they can be ignored. Sometimes there are graphics for specific functions, such as open, save, etc., which are also duplicated in menus and which usually have shortcut keys of their own, so these graphics can also be ignored since their functions are available elsewise. Finally, in my opinion, if there are no other graphics in a window that, when clicked, perform a function that's available via shortcut key or menu, then you don't have to bother labeling or scripting any graphics unless it's for completeness because they will in all likelihood never be used by a JAWS user.

On 12/26/2018 2:45 AM, David Ingram wrote:
Hi list members, what I'm finding out is that winzip has different things to choose from when trying to figure what needs to be opened and other things. I've also noticed that usually there are some graphics and they need to be labeled. When I perform the keystroke for the auto graphics labeler, no labels are labeled yet i'm sure that there are some graphics that need to be labeled. I'd like to be able to label these graphics as well as the buttons as well but I
not sure how to do this with out sighted assistance the version of winzip is 22. I got this version just before winzip 23 was released.


-----Original Message-----
From: JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com>
Sent: Dec 25, 2018 8:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Where can i start in creating jaws scripts for winzip!

Hey.

Just curious, but why do you feel Winzip needs scripting?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Ingram
Sent: December 25, 2018 7:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Where can i start in creating jaws scripts for winzip!

Hi list members, what should I do first when trying to see what jaws scripts need to be written for winzip22?






Re: Where can i start in creating jaws scripts for winzip!

David Ingram
 

Hi list members, what I'm finding out is that winzip has different things to choose from when trying to figure what needs to be opened and other things. I've also noticed that usually there are some graphics and they need to be labeled. When I perform the keystroke for the auto graphics labeler, no labels are labeled yet i'm sure that there are some graphics that need to be labeled. I'd like to be able to label these graphics as well as the buttons as well but I
not sure how to do this with out sighted assistance the version of winzip is 22. I got this version just before winzip 23 was released.

-----Original Message-----
From: JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com>
Sent: Dec 25, 2018 8:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Where can i start in creating jaws scripts for winzip!

Hey.

Just curious, but why do you feel Winzip needs scripting?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Ingram
Sent: December 25, 2018 7:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Where can i start in creating jaws scripts for winzip!

Hi list members, what should I do first when trying to see what jaws scripts need to be written for winzip22?






shared folder question

Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
 

Hey guys,

OK, so i need a little help here. I have a folder on 1 of my
harddrives called dropbox. It's actually an old dropbox folder.
However i can't delete it cause there is a shared folder that is in
there. However, it's in the new dropbox folder. So, with that said,
how do i delete the old dropbox folder to free up space?


Re: Where can i start in creating jaws scripts for winzip!

Gene Stevens
 

That was my question. It works quite fine for me as is.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Where can i start in creating jaws scripts for winzip!

 

Hey.

 

Just curious, but why do you feel Winzip needs scripting?

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Ingram

Sent: December 25, 2018 7:42 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Where can i start in creating jaws scripts for winzip!

 

Hi list members, what should I do first when trying to see what jaws scripts need to be written for winzip22?

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Where can i start in creating jaws scripts for winzip!

JM Casey
 

Hey.

Just curious, but why do you feel Winzip needs scripting?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Ingram
Sent: December 25, 2018 7:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Where can i start in creating jaws scripts for winzip!

Hi list members, what should I do first when trying to see what jaws scripts need to be written for winzip22?


Where can i start in creating jaws scripts for winzip!

David Ingram
 

Hi list members, what should I do first when trying to see what jaws scripts need to be written for winzip22?


Web site scripts for Facebook Messenger

ann
 

Hi folks,

Hope everyone is having good holidays!

Sometimes, when using Jaws 2019 latest, on Windows 10, with the latest Firefox version, and on the web version of Facebook messenger:

www.messenger.com

it is difficult to skip back through recent messages in a conversation. An I missing some keyboard shortcuts or are  there web site scripts for this? Usually going to the bottom of the page and then hitting the Shift+5 key takes me back to the last message received, but sometimes it takes me back way too far in the list of messages, like a day or more back
.


Thanks,
~Ann


Re: Any good IDE's for C++ Development?

Scott Wheat
 

You might try Eclipse. I haven't used it for C++, but have used it for Java
and php.
It doesn't work perfectly with JAWS, but it is usable.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan
Morison
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any good IDE's for C++ Development?

Yes. I downloaded Visual Studio Community 2015, as that's how high my
machine can go up to. Any higher updates would break compatibility with my
current configuration of JAWS 15! And no, I don't have the funds to upgrade
JAWS either.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 8:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any good IDE's for C++ Development?

just a guess, did you download the correct one?

from the below link/address, there are 3 editions to download:

a fully-featured IDE for students, open-source and individual developers
which is the free one, Visual Studio Professional 2017 and Visual Studio
Enterprise 2017 are both trial versions.

https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/community/

-------- Original Message --------
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@comcast.net]
Sent: Sun, Dec 23, 2018 8:37 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Any good IDE's for C++ Development?

Hi, it's Annabelle.
Are there any IDE's out there for C++ development that are fully accessible
to screenreaders like JAWS? I've tried Visual Studio Community, but
unfortunately they deceived me when I downloaded it. The people at Microsoft
said it was free, but then after about 60 days, I found out it was actually
an evaluation, as a message came up saying "Your evaluation period has
expired." Even worse, my Microsoft account got suspended as a result of
so-called inactivity! I'd like to have an IDE which can compile programs for
all operating systems, won't install any bloatware, and most important of
all, won't take forever to install!
Visual Studio Community could compile for all operating systems, but
unfortunately it certainly succeeded in installing bloatware, and worst of
all, it took forever to install!


Re: itunes

Ed Legge <edward.legge@...>
 

Never mind, I found it in my downloads folder.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ed Legge via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 01:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: itunes

 

I did the download but don’t know where to go from here.  When it finished it said something about the setup but it will not read for me now.  I am using the latest version of JAWS.  Can any one help?

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 09:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: itunes

 

You definitely want to download the desktop version. Here is a direct link which starts the download for the 64 Bit version:

iTunes for Windows (Desktop version) 64 Bit

 

If you need the 32 Bit version click the below link instead:

iTunes for Windows (Desktop version) 32 Bit

 

Take care,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 7:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: itunes

 

Good morning and Mary Christmass:

 

Using Jaws what is the best version of itumes to use, the one from the itunes store or the Itunes from Microsoft?

 

If the answer is the itunes from Apple where you get that version from?

 

Thank you very much.

 

 


Re: itunes

Ed Legge <edward.legge@...>
 

I did the download but don’t know where to go from here.  When it finished it said something about the setup but it will not read for me now.  I am using the latest version of JAWS.  Can any one help?

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 09:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: itunes

 

You definitely want to download the desktop version. Here is a direct link which starts the download for the 64 Bit version:

iTunes for Windows (Desktop version) 64 Bit

 

If you need the 32 Bit version click the below link instead:

iTunes for Windows (Desktop version) 32 Bit

 

Take care,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 7:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: itunes

 

Good morning and Mary Christmass:

 

Using Jaws what is the best version of itumes to use, the one from the itunes store or the Itunes from Microsoft?

 

If the answer is the itunes from Apple where you get that version from?

 

Thank you very much.

 

 


Re: itunes

Robert Logue
 

The only difference I've noticed is there is no check for Itunes update in the Microsoft store version. I suppose it is updated through Windows update.


Both versions are awkward with all screen readers I've used; Narrator, NVDA, and Jaws 2019.


At least with Narrator; I can use the Windows feedback to send bug reports about how they work together.


Bob


On 2018-12-24 9:06 a.m., Marty Hutchings wrote:
I got my iTunes for Windows from the Apple site and it works with JAWS, but it is awkword.  Would the iTunes from Microsoft be any different?  I wouldn’t think so.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
 
From: Dave...
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: itunes
 
Not sure there's any difference. Go to www.apple.com for iTunes.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 07:23
Subject: itunes
 

Good morning and Mary Christmass:

 

Using Jaws what is the best version of itumes to use, the one from the itunes store or the Itunes from Microsoft?

 

If the answer is the itunes from Apple where you get that version from?

 

Thank you very much.