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Re: OCR and JPG files

Tony Schnurr
 

Kendra,
When people refer to real text they are talking about actual ASCII based text which is the kind of text that was entered in a word document or some other editor.
Though this kind of text can have font and other attributes associated with it; you can navigate and read it with jaws because they are discrete elements.
When folks talk about picture text. They are referring to text that is literally just a picture of the text. The letters in that picture are simply objects just like any other object in a picture. The only way a blind person can read those would be to use OCR to do recognition on that picture. The caveat being OCR does not always render exact format, however you would usually get enough of the text to be able to glean something out of it. The reason we encounter these pictures of text, is due to many folks finding it easy to simply use a scanner to scan an image of a document into a PDF file.
Hope this explanation helps.
Regards
Tony

On Dec 14, 2018, at 00:32, Kendra Schafer <redwing731@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all!
What is the difference between (real) text and (photo) text? I need to know
so that I can explain it myself. I have to deal with this sort of garbage
myself in my own technical work and I need to be ale to convert PDFs into
something that's accessible.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 6:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

Many sighted people genuinely don't know the difference between photo-text
and 'real' text (as we may call it), unless it is explained to them.

.JPG files can vary quite a bit in resolution, which would affect the
quality of the text (if any) gleaned from converted OCR.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

They are only images, yes. But sometimes they are images of text. Why
anybody would do that is beyond me, unless of course someone took a picture
of--for example--a label and wanted to send it to someone else.
At 03:29 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos am
I wrong? From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: December 13, 2018 4:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with
JAWS choice.

Regards,




John Doering
Administrative Pricing Asst

p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion,
without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to
"recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a
charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




John Doering

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p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778



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Re: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...>
 

Hi all!

 Have you tried it with JAWS or NVDA?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

 

Bill:

 

It happens with Narrator too.

 

I’m not sure what to do from here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 8:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

 

Hi, Tom. Try turning on Narrator, and see if you get the same delay through Narrator. If so, you might have one of the sound cards which go to sleep frequently, and need to be awoken by key presses.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 5:01 PM
To: jfw list
Subject: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

 

Hello, everyone.

 

As some of you may remember, I’m continuing to set up a new Dell Windows 10 computer with Jaws.

 

The computer has an Intel I7 processor, 16 gigabytes of ram, a 12 gigabyte solid-state drive, and a 1 terabyte mechanical hard drive.

 

I mention this right from the start, because this computer should have plenty of horse power to work well with Jaws.

 

I have noticed that, when typing something, after I stop using the computer for 30 seconds or so, I do not get Jaws feedback until I press at least four or five keys.  In other words, there’s a considerable delay until Jaws starts speaking again.

 

I am thinking this is a Jaws issue, but am not totally sure.

 

I’m currently using Jaws 2018, and plan to upgrade to Jaws 2019 soon, although I’m a bit hesitant to do so right now because of other known problems with Jaws 2019 and MS Word.

 

Are there some settings I should look at to try to address this issue?

 

Thanks as always!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: OCR and JPG files

Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...>
 

Hi all!
What is the difference between (real) text and (photo) text? I need to know
so that I can explain it myself. I have to deal with this sort of garbage
myself in my own technical work and I need to be ale to convert PDFs into
something that's accessible.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 6:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

Many sighted people genuinely don't know the difference between photo-text
and 'real' text (as we may call it), unless it is explained to them.

.JPG files can vary quite a bit in resolution, which would affect the
quality of the text (if any) gleaned from converted OCR.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

They are only images, yes. But sometimes they are images of text. Why
anybody would do that is beyond me, unless of course someone took a picture
of--for example--a label and wanted to send it to someone else.
At 03:29 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos am
I wrong? From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: December 13, 2018 4:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with
JAWS choice.

Regards,




John Doering
Administrative Pricing Asst

p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann
Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion,
without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to
"recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a
charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




John Doering

Administrative Pricing Asst

p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778



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Re: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

Kendra Schafer <redwing731@...>
 

Hi all!

 I would try installing NVDA because it’s a free screen reader and it’s actually better than Windows Narader. Since you are trying to install JAWS, I would totally install NVDA first so that you have a relayable screen reader. Of course, that’s not counting any sound card problems.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 5:01 PM
To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

 

Hello, everyone.

 

As some of you may remember, I’m continuing to set up a new Dell Windows 10 computer with Jaws.

 

The computer has an Intel I7 processor, 16 gigabytes of ram, a 12 gigabyte solid-state drive, and a 1 terabyte mechanical hard drive.

 

I mention this right from the start, because this computer should have plenty of horse power to work well with Jaws.

 

I have noticed that, when typing something, after I stop using the computer for 30 seconds or so, I do not get Jaws feedback until I press at least four or five keys.  In other words, there’s a considerable delay until Jaws starts speaking again.

 

I am thinking this is a Jaws issue, but am not totally sure.

 

I’m currently using Jaws 2018, and plan to upgrade to Jaws 2019 soon, although I’m a bit hesitant to do so right now because of other known problems with Jaws 2019 and MS Word.

 

Are there some settings I should look at to try to address this issue?

 

Thanks as always!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: Cannot Read Scan History

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Rick. The first thing you should try is:

 

After pressing ENTER, press JAWS key plus ESCAPE to refresh the screen. See if this brings the scan History into view.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:13 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Cannot Read Scan History

 

Dear Listers:

 

I have just recently updated Windows 10, and have also updated Windows Defender, my antiviral program.  When I try to examine the scan history, JAWS will not work.  When I get to the Windows Defender Scan Center, I hit the enter key when I hear Viral Protection.  As soon as I do, JAWS says “Link, Scan History.”  When I hit the enter key, nothing seems to happen.  If any of you use Windows Defender, can you tell me what to do to resolve this?  By the way, I am using JAWS 2019.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


Cannot Read Scan History

Rick Miller
 

Dear Listers:

 

I have just recently updated Windows 10, and have also updated Windows Defender, my antiviral program.  When I try to examine the scan history, JAWS will not work.  When I get to the Windows Defender Scan Center, I hit the enter key when I hear Viral Protection.  As soon as I do, JAWS says “Link, Scan History.”  When I hit the enter key, nothing seems to happen.  If any of you use Windows Defender, can you tell me what to do to resolve this?  By the way, I am using JAWS 2019.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


Re: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Tom. There is a program called Silenzio which is supposed to keep the sound card from going to sleep.

 

Try downloading it from the following link.

 

Download Silenzio here

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

 

Bill:

 

It happens with Narrator too.

 

I’m not sure what to do from here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 8:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

 

Hi, Tom. Try turning on Narrator, and see if you get the same delay through Narrator. If so, you might have one of the sound cards which go to sleep frequently, and need to be awoken by key presses.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 5:01 PM
To: jfw list
Subject: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

 

Hello, everyone.

 

As some of you may remember, I’m continuing to set up a new Dell Windows 10 computer with Jaws.

 

The computer has an Intel I7 processor, 16 gigabytes of ram, a 12 gigabyte solid-state drive, and a 1 terabyte mechanical hard drive.

 

I mention this right from the start, because this computer should have plenty of horse power to work well with Jaws.

 

I have noticed that, when typing something, after I stop using the computer for 30 seconds or so, I do not get Jaws feedback until I press at least four or five keys.  In other words, there’s a considerable delay until Jaws starts speaking again.

 

I am thinking this is a Jaws issue, but am not totally sure.

 

I’m currently using Jaws 2018, and plan to upgrade to Jaws 2019 soon, although I’m a bit hesitant to do so right now because of other known problems with Jaws 2019 and MS Word.

 

Are there some settings I should look at to try to address this issue?

 

Thanks as always!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: OCR and JPG files

Flor Lynch
 

Many sighted people genuinely don't know the difference between photo-text and 'real' text (as we may call it), unless it is explained to them.

.JPG files can vary quite a bit in resolution, which would affect the quality of the text (if any) gleaned from converted OCR.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 10:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

They are only images, yes. But sometimes they are images of
text. Why anybody would do that is beyond me, unless of course
someone took a picture of--for example--a label and wanted to send it
to someone else.
At 03:29 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos am I wrong? From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: December 13, 2018 4:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with JAWS choice.

Regards,




John Doering
Administrative Pricing Asst

p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




John Doering

Administrative Pricing Asst

p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778



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Re: OCR and JPG files

Milton Ota <mota1252@...>
 

If you are sure that a jpg file has text, you can OCR it with the onboard OCR in JAWS.

Using the application key and highlighting the jpg file, press the letter j and it should work.


Re: Any list for blind Alesa and Google Home voice controlled devices

Merv Keck <blind5sparrow@...>
 

I've seen it recently discussed on the echoing list.
main+subscribe@echoing.groups.io

It is a list for blind and visually impaired users of the Amazon line of Echo products.
Merv

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of charleseblack@att.net
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 5:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any list for blind Alesa and Google Home voice controlled devices

Does anyone have a list of alexa commands or know where to find the list?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any list for blind Alesa and Google Home voice controlled devices

my guess is that a single mailing list would get too chaotic with discussions of everything imaginable and the moderation of the discussions?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Thu, Dec 13, 2018 2:15 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Any list for blind Alesa and Google Home voice controlled devices

Now I'll put myself out there for flogging, but I really don't understand why there is this tendency in the blind/low-vision community to do two things:

1. Split each and every blessed technology into separate groups.
2. Avoid non-blind-specific groups for things like Google Home and
Amazon Echo, where nothing, including setup, is specific to blind users.


In any case, there is the Blind Technology group, which allows
discussion of virtually any technology you can name with an emphasis on
use of same by blind individuals. All pertinent details will be sent in
response to e-mailing: blindtech+help@groups.io
<mailto:blindtech+help@groups.io>
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*/ Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always
a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong./*

~ H.L. Mencken, AKA /The Sage of Baltimore/


Re: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

Tom Behler
 

Bill:

 

It happens with Narrator too.

 

I’m not sure what to do from here.

 

Tom Behler

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 8:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

 

Hi, Tom. Try turning on Narrator, and see if you get the same delay through Narrator. If so, you might have one of the sound cards which go to sleep frequently, and need to be awoken by key presses.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 5:01 PM
To: jfw list
Subject: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

 

Hello, everyone.

 

As some of you may remember, I’m continuing to set up a new Dell Windows 10 computer with Jaws.

 

The computer has an Intel I7 processor, 16 gigabytes of ram, a 12 gigabyte solid-state drive, and a 1 terabyte mechanical hard drive.

 

I mention this right from the start, because this computer should have plenty of horse power to work well with Jaws.

 

I have noticed that, when typing something, after I stop using the computer for 30 seconds or so, I do not get Jaws feedback until I press at least four or five keys.  In other words, there’s a considerable delay until Jaws starts speaking again.

 

I am thinking this is a Jaws issue, but am not totally sure.

 

I’m currently using Jaws 2018, and plan to upgrade to Jaws 2019 soon, although I’m a bit hesitant to do so right now because of other known problems with Jaws 2019 and MS Word.

 

Are there some settings I should look at to try to address this issue?

 

Thanks as always!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Tom. Try turning on Narrator, and see if you get the same delay through Narrator. If so, you might have one of the sound cards which go to sleep frequently, and need to be awoken by key presses.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 5:01 PM
To: jfw list
Subject: Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

 

Hello, everyone.

 

As some of you may remember, I’m continuing to set up a new Dell Windows 10 computer with Jaws.

 

The computer has an Intel I7 processor, 16 gigabytes of ram, a 12 gigabyte solid-state drive, and a 1 terabyte mechanical hard drive.

 

I mention this right from the start, because this computer should have plenty of horse power to work well with Jaws.

 

I have noticed that, when typing something, after I stop using the computer for 30 seconds or so, I do not get Jaws feedback until I press at least four or five keys.  In other words, there’s a considerable delay until Jaws starts speaking again.

 

I am thinking this is a Jaws issue, but am not totally sure.

 

I’m currently using Jaws 2018, and plan to upgrade to Jaws 2019 soon, although I’m a bit hesitant to do so right now because of other known problems with Jaws 2019 and MS Word.

 

Are there some settings I should look at to try to address this issue?

 

Thanks as always!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

As some of you may remember, I’m continuing to set up a new Dell Windows 10 computer with Jaws.

 

The computer has an Intel I7 processor, 16 gigabytes of ram, a 12 gigabyte solid-state drive, and a 1 terabyte mechanical hard drive.

 

I mention this right from the start, because this computer should have plenty of horse power to work well with Jaws.

 

I have noticed that, when typing something, after I stop using the computer for 30 seconds or so, I do not get Jaws feedback until I press at least four or five keys.  In other words, there’s a considerable delay until Jaws starts speaking again.

 

I am thinking this is a Jaws issue, but am not totally sure.

 

I’m currently using Jaws 2018, and plan to upgrade to Jaws 2019 soon, although I’m a bit hesitant to do so right now because of other known problems with Jaws 2019 and MS Word.

 

Are there some settings I should look at to try to address this issue?

 

Thanks as always!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 


Re: OCR and JPG files

Mario
 

John, try pressing insert+spacebar, o, f. I'm not sure if the JPG needs
to be opened with an image editor like Paint or the OCR commands can be
issued on the file without opening it first.

the synopsis for this command is "Captures an image from the selected
file in Windows Explorer and recognizes the text from the image using
the OCR component."

-------- Original Message --------
From: John Doering [mailto:john.doering@ibvi.org]
Sent: Thu, Dec 13, 2018 4:28 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OCR and JPG files

After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with
JAWS choice.

Regards,




John Doering
Administrative Pricing Asst

p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion,
without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to
"recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like
a charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




John Doering

Administrative Pricing Asst

p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778



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acurate info for the Fs openline.

Michael Munn
 

Hi all, This is Michael.
Last time I FS changed the access code for the Openline and I was not pro active
Ofcourse I learned my lesson this time and can someone provide a vallid access code for the Openline discussion?
Thanks
Best regards
Michael Munn


Re: Any list for blind Alesa and Google Home voice controlled devices

 

On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 04:41 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
Fragmentation becomes pointless after a while and besides, truth be told, for many of these lists, be it Jaws, iOS or blindness related tech stuff, lots of us are on these same lists anyway.
Amen!!  And essentially the same questions, where the answer on one would apply on another, get asked on multiple lists at once.

Defragmentation should be a goal, but alas, it's not.
 
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Re: OCR and JPG files

Don Walls
 

Actually, my church uses a software which allows text layout as in a magazine, and the contents are not readable by a screen reader because they are captured as images. The reason for this is to allow the appearance as in a periodical but the text isn't accessible.

Don

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

They are only images, yes. But sometimes they are images of
text. Why anybody would do that is beyond me, unless of course
someone took a picture of--for example--a label and wanted to send it
to someone else.
At 03:29 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos am I wrong? From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: December 13, 2018 4:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with JAWS choice.

Regards,




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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




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Re: Any list for blind Alesa and Google Home voice controlled devices

charleseblack@...
 

Does anyone have a list of alexa commands or know where to find the list?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any list for blind Alesa and Google Home voice controlled devices

my guess is that a single mailing list would get too chaotic with discussions of everything imaginable and the moderation of the discussions?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Thu, Dec 13, 2018 2:15 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Any list for blind Alesa and Google Home voice controlled devices

Now I'll put myself out there for flogging, but I really don't
understand why there is this tendency in the blind/low-vision community
to do two things:

1. Split each and every blessed technology into separate groups.
2. Avoid non-blind-specific groups for things like Google Home and
Amazon Echo, where nothing, including setup, is specific to blind
users.


In any case, there is the Blind Technology group, which allows
discussion of virtually any technology you can name with an emphasis on
use of same by blind individuals. All pertinent details will be sent in
response to e-mailing: blindtech+help@groups.io
<mailto:blindtech+help@groups.io>
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*/ Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always
a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong./*

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Re: OCR and JPG files

Ann Byrne
 

They are only images, yes. But sometimes they are images of text. Why anybody would do that is beyond me, unless of course someone took a picture of--for example--a label and wanted to send it to someone else.

At 03:29 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos am I wrong? From Mich.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: December 13, 2018 4:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with JAWS choice.

Regards,




John Doering
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p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




John Doering

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p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778



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Re: OCR and JPG files

Ann Byrne
 

Which version of JAWS do you have? I think the function was added in JAWS 18, but it might have been 2018.

At 03:28 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with JAWS choice.

Regards,




John Doering
Administrative Pricing Asst

p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files

I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm!
At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?

Thanks in advance,




John Doering

Administrative Pricing Asst

p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778



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