Speaking ProblemWith New Windows 10 Computer
Tom Behler
Hello, everyone.
As some of you may remember, I’m continuing to set up a new Dell Windows 10 computer with Jaws.
The computer has an Intel I7 processor, 16 gigabytes of ram, a 12 gigabyte solid-state drive, and a 1 terabyte mechanical hard drive.
I mention this right from the start, because this computer should have plenty of horse power to work well with Jaws.
I have noticed that, when typing something, after I stop using the computer for 30 seconds or so, I do not get Jaws feedback until I press at least four or five keys. In other words, there’s a considerable delay until Jaws starts speaking again.
I am thinking this is a Jaws issue, but am not totally sure.
I’m currently using Jaws 2018, and plan to upgrade to Jaws 2019 soon, although I’m a bit hesitant to do so right now because of other known problems with Jaws 2019 and MS Word.
Are there some settings I should look at to try to address this issue?
Thanks as always!
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
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Re: OCR and JPG files
Mario
John, try pressing insert+spacebar, o, f. I'm not sure if the JPG needs
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to be opened with an image editor like Paint or the OCR commands can be issued on the file without opening it first. the synopsis for this command is "Captures an image from the selected file in Windows Explorer and recognizes the text from the image using the OCR component."
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From: John Doering [mailto:john.doering@ibvi.org] Sent: Thu, Dec 13, 2018 4:28 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: OCR and JPG files After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with JAWS choice. Regards, John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778 NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any document attached hereto is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message in confidence to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal and/or attachments in error, please notify me immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm! At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote: Hello: Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes? Thanks in advance, John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778 NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any document attached hereto is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message in confidence to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal and/or attachments in error, please notify me immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments.
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acurate info for the Fs openline.
Michael Munn
Hi all, This is Michael.
Last time I FS changed the access code for the Openline and I was not pro active Ofcourse I learned my lesson this time and can someone provide a vallid access code for the Openline discussion? Thanks Best regards Michael Munn
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Re: Any list for blind Alesa and Google Home voice controlled devices
On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 04:41 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
Fragmentation becomes pointless after a while and besides, truth be told, for many of these lists, be it Jaws, iOS or blindness related tech stuff, lots of us are on these same lists anyway.Amen!! And essentially the same questions, where the answer on one would apply on another, get asked on multiple lists at once. Defragmentation should be a goal, but alas, it's not. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: OCR and JPG files
Don Walls
Actually, my church uses a software which allows text layout as in a magazine, and the contents are not readable by a screen reader because they are captured as images. The reason for this is to allow the appearance as in a periodical but the text isn't accessible.
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From: Ann Byrne Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:18 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files They are only images, yes. But sometimes they are images of text. Why anybody would do that is beyond me, unless of course someone took a picture of--for example--a label and wanted to send it to someone else. At 03:29 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote: Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos am I wrong? From Mich.
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Re: Any list for blind Alesa and Google Home voice controlled devices
charleseblack@...
Does anyone have a list of alexa commands or know where to find the list?
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:36 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Any list for blind Alesa and Google Home voice controlled devices my guess is that a single mailing list would get too chaotic with discussions of everything imaginable and the moderation of the discussions? -------- Original Message -------- From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com] Sent: Thu, Dec 13, 2018 2:15 PM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Any list for blind Alesa and Google Home voice controlled devices Now I'll put myself out there for flogging, but I really don't understand why there is this tendency in the blind/low-vision community to do two things: 1. Split each and every blessed technology into separate groups. 2. Avoid non-blind-specific groups for things like Google Home and Amazon Echo, where nothing, including setup, is specific to blind users. In any case, there is the Blind Technology group, which allows discussion of virtually any technology you can name with an emphasis on use of same by blind individuals. All pertinent details will be sent in response to e-mailing: blindtech+help@groups.io <mailto:blindtech+help@groups.io> -- Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 */ Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong./* ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA /The Sage of Baltimore/
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Re: OCR and JPG files
Ann Byrne
They are only images, yes. But sometimes they are images of text. Why anybody would do that is beyond me, unless of course someone took a picture of--for example--a label and wanted to send it to someone else.
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At 03:29 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos am I wrong? From Mich.
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Re: OCR and JPG files
Ann Byrne
Which version of JAWS do you have? I think the function was added in JAWS 18, but it might have been 2018.
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At 03:28 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with JAWS choice.
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Re: OCR and JPG files
Mike B. <mike9902@...>
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Hi John,
I thought the, Recognize
with Jaws, feature came out with Jaws 18 but, it didn't come until
Jaws2018. You could also try using Openbook to extract any text from the
file as well.
With Openbook open the
file, press, Control + P, to open the print dialogue, navigate to, Freedom
Import Printer, and press enter. Wait a little bit for Openbook to get
started and to scan the image. If it finds any text it should read
it.
Take care. Go Rams! Sent from my iBarstool. I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!
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From: John Doering
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files Regards, John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778 NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any document attached hereto is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message in confidence to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal and/or attachments in error, please notify me immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm! At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote: >Hello: >Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes? > >Thanks in advance, > > > > >John Doering > >Administrative Pricing Asst > >p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778 > > > >NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any document >attached hereto is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are >not the intended recipient, nor the employee or agent responsible for >delivering this message in confidence to the intended recipient(s), you >are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, >and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this >transmittal or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have >received this transmittal and/or attachments in error, please notify me >immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any >attachments. > >
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Re: OCR and JPG files
Nermin
Hi Mich,
technically, you're correct. However, since a photo could also be a hpotographed copy of a document, it may well be something OCR readable. Regards, Nermin
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Re: OCR and JPG files
Mich Verrier
Hi I was always under the impression that jpg files were only photos am I wrong? From Mich.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering Sent: December 13, 2018 4:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with JAWS choice. Regards, John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778 NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any document attached hereto is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message in confidence to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal and/or attachments in error, please notify me immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm! At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote: Hello:
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Re: OCR and JPG files
Don Mauck
Then you
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Can only use the spacebar+insert functionality.
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From: John Doering <john.doering@ibvi.org> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:30 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files I should of mentioned, I am using Windows 7 with JAWS 18. Regards, John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778 NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any document attached hereto is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message in confidence to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal and/or attachments in error, please notify me immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm! At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote: Hello:
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Re: Jaws loading
Dan Longmore
JAWS 2019 seems faster after log in but problems and delays still remain at log on. FS had a lot of hype about start up but not as great as the hype.
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Dan
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 12:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws loading Just when entering my pin. Other than that, it is a lot faster. On 12/13/2018 10:39, Don H wrote: One of the benefits of Jaws 2019 was supposed to be faster startup. I
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Re: Saving an pdf file
Dan Longmore
Hi, As an aside if you use Office 365 or Word 2016 you can open a pdf file directly in Word. Most formatting is intact and you can then edit.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Gashel
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 3:45 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Saving an pdf file
Hi Bill/all:
I have been following the messages in this thread but find that I do have a question.
My default PDF reader is Adobe acrobat DC. I use this to have the capability to edit PDF forms and other PDF files.
I am completely new to using Adobe acrobat, rather than adobe reader.
When I try to access a PDF document online through Internet explorer, and the PDF displays, I find that all JAWS will do is to say something like “open parent document button.” When I press enter, hoping to access the text with JAWS, all I get is “blank” when I arrow up or down.
Any advice/thoughts please? Perhaps I need to install an extension?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Hi, Tom. Make sure Adobe Reader DC is your default program to open pdf files. This can be done by searching for the word default in the start menu.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of T. Civitello
Trouble is there is no mention of adobe reader or Adobe Acrobat in the add on regardless if I select “all” or currently selected” or any other category. Tom
Hi, Tom. Once in Internet Explorer:
1. Press ALT plus T for Tools. 2. Arrow down to Manage AddOns, and press ENTER. 3. Make sure you are displaying all AddOns, it should look like this:
Toolbars and Extensions radio button checked
All add-ons
4. Disable any AddOns which pertain to Adobe.
That’s it.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of T. Civitello
“ I personally hate having PDFs opened inside a web browser and promptly change the browser settings to have it pass off any PDF files to open with my system PDF viewer. Any idea where I can find this in IE 10? Thanks Tom
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 03:37 PM, Nino Dagostino wrote: There is this book about linux in the email if you click on the link it opens a pdf file. The question also arises: Where/How does it open it? Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: Any list for blind Alesa and Google Home voice controlled devices
Cristóbal
Fragmentation becomes pointless after a while and besides, truth be told, for many of these lists, be it Jaws, iOS or blindness related tech stuff, lots of us are on these same lists anyway.
Cristóbal
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 02:35 PM, Mario wrote:
That could be if there were not end-user mechanisms to control the flow of messages from a given group, but Groups.io gives exquisite control over exactly what messages you receive: Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong. ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore
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Re: OCR and JPG files
John Doering
I should of mentioned, I am using Windows 7 with JAWS 18.
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Regards, John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778 NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any document attached hereto is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message in confidence to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal and/or attachments in error, please notify me immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm! At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote: Hello:
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Re: OCR and JPG files
John Doering
After hitting the applications key, I am not finding a recognize with JAWS choice.
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Regards, John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778 NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any document attached hereto is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message in confidence to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal and/or attachments in error, please notify me immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:59 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm! At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote: Hello:
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Re: OCR and JPG files
John Doering
Don: Tried your suggestion, but no luck.
Thanks,
John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 2:49 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: OCR and JPG files
You can do “JAWS+Spacebar then “o” and then either “e” or “w”. I t doesn’t really give you anything, but give it a shot. You can also try using the application key then the letter “j” which recognize any text if there is any. The first way you have to open the file, the second way, you just right click (the application key). HTH.
From: John Doering <john.doering@...>
Hello: Can the JAWS OCR convert a JPG file and if so, what is the key strokes?
Thanks in advance,
John Doering Administrative Pricing Asst
p. 4147783040 Extn:4063 t. 800-642-8778
NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any document attached hereto is intended only for the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, nor the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message in confidence to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal and/or attachments in error, please notify me immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments.
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Re: OCR and JPG files
Ann Byrne
I have had good experience with this. Following Don's suggestion, without opening the file press the applications key and arrow to "recognize with JAWS" or just type the letter J. For me, it worked like a charm!
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At 02:41 PM 12/13/2018, you wrote:
Hello:
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Re: Any list for blind Alesa and Google Home voice controlled devices
Steve Matzura
My guess is that those who start these groups don't know other ones exist.
On 12/13/2018 2:15 PM, Brian Vogel
wrote:
Now I'll put myself out there for flogging, but I really don't understand why there is this tendency in the blind/low-vision community to do two things:
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