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Re: Braille display and jaws problem

Panagiotis Antonopoulos
 

Hi Ari/all,
Well, I have had an ordeal when I bought my new Lenovo, excellent otherwise. I had latest jaws at the time, and an Active Braille from the German company Handytech. Despite my computer tech's struggling, it would not connect with either Bluetooth, or usb. It made several trips between Ioannina, my place of work, and Athens, some 300 miles, and when we thought things were fixed, it was the same, once it reached my end. Eventually, both display and computer were sent to handytech, again with no success, although the Germans were insisting it was Jaws' fault. To cut a long story, my computer tech, eventually discovered that the fault lay with Narrator, and one of its drivers, and it was really a Microsoft fault, which affects some, but not all, displays. Once narrator was removed, I have had not more that problem.
Hope this helps,
Greetings from Greece (perhaps your family's country of origin?),
Takis

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ari Damoulakis
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 8:59 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Braille display and jaws problem

Hi everyone
I hope someone can give me some answers or additional tips on what to
try, since I tried asking on the Facebook group, but no luck yet.
I have used a Seika 40 (Perkins in the US) and U2 in the past
successfully with jaws, but for some reason I can't get the newest
version of jaws to communicate with them at all. In fact I can't get
the newest version of JAWS to communicate with any braille display.
When I say communicate, I mean that I am connecting the displays
properly to the PC. I have tried Bluetooth and USB. The displays are
displaying braille and are working with NVDA.
I add them in JAWS. When I try their Bluetooth ports, I am inputting
the com numbers the computer is giving me. When I try the USB, the
drivers are installed correctly, I write USB.
Nothing is happening when I restart JAWS or the PC and JAWS.
I am not getting an error message, but no braille is being displayed either.
I have unpaired them from the PC and paried them again. I have tried
their supposed input and output ports just to make really sure. I have
tried the USB, nothing.
I really have no idea what else to try?
Is it just me or does anyone else believe that the whole interface of
configuring JAWS and a braille display lacks the ease of the iPhone,
or even NVDA? And when you write to support of iether the screenreader
or the braille display manufacturer, the one manufacturer thinks it
could be the other product and the support departments shift the
problem to each other like tennis.
Freedom Scientific should totally redesign the whole braille display
module or interface of jaws, or something should be done to find some
sort of solution to the whole three-way problem of hardware, software
and operating system triangulate in some sort of easier solution.
Thanks very much
Ari


Re: Braille display and jaws problem

Kimber Gardner
 

Not trying to be snarky here, but if the displays are working fine
with NVDA that tells me the problem isn't the computer or the display
but jaws itself. What does FS have to say about it?

On 12/10/18, Ari Damoulakis <aridamoulakis@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone
I hope someone can give me some answers or additional tips on what to
try, since I tried asking on the Facebook group, but no luck yet.
I have used a Seika 40 (Perkins in the US) and U2 in the past
successfully with jaws, but for some reason I can't get the newest
version of jaws to communicate with them at all. In fact I can't get
the newest version of JAWS to communicate with any braille display.
When I say communicate, I mean that I am connecting the displays
properly to the PC. I have tried Bluetooth and USB. The displays are
displaying braille and are working with NVDA.
I add them in JAWS. When I try their Bluetooth ports, I am inputting
the com numbers the computer is giving me. When I try the USB, the
drivers are installed correctly, I write USB.
Nothing is happening when I restart JAWS or the PC and JAWS.
I am not getting an error message, but no braille is being displayed
either.
I have unpaired them from the PC and paried them again. I have tried
their supposed input and output ports just to make really sure. I have
tried the USB, nothing.
I really have no idea what else to try?
Is it just me or does anyone else believe that the whole interface of
configuring JAWS and a braille display lacks the ease of the iPhone,
or even NVDA? And when you write to support of iether the screenreader
or the braille display manufacturer, the one manufacturer thinks it
could be the other product and the support departments shift the
problem to each other like tennis.
Freedom Scientific should totally redesign the whole braille display
module or interface of jaws, or something should be done to find some
sort of solution to the whole three-way problem of hardware, software
and operating system triangulate in some sort of easier solution.
Thanks very much
Ari



--
Kimberly


Re: Saving an pdf file

T. Civitello
 

 
I personally hate having PDFs opened inside a web browser and promptly change the browser settings to have it pass off any PDF files to open with my system PDF viewer.
Any idea where I can find this in IE 10? Thanks Tom
 

Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Saveing an pdf file
 
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 03:37 PM, Nino Dagostino wrote:
There is this book about linux  in the email if you click on the link it opens a pdf file.
The question also arises:  Where/How does it open it?

Depending on how you have your browser set up it might open up in the browser or the file can be handed off to whatever you have set as your system's default PDF viewer.  If the latter, you can use the Save As feature of the system PDF viewer (e.g., Adobe Acrobat DC).  If the former, there's generally a download control in the browser's PDF presenter, but I haven't played with getting to that control via screen reader.

I personally hate having PDFs opened inside a web browser and promptly change the browser settings to have it pass off any PDF files to open with my system PDF viewer.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Braille display and jaws problem

Ari Damoulakis
 

Hi everyone
I hope someone can give me some answers or additional tips on what to
try, since I tried asking on the Facebook group, but no luck yet.
I have used a Seika 40 (Perkins in the US) and U2 in the past
successfully with jaws, but for some reason I can't get the newest
version of jaws to communicate with them at all. In fact I can't get
the newest version of JAWS to communicate with any braille display.
When I say communicate, I mean that I am connecting the displays
properly to the PC. I have tried Bluetooth and USB. The displays are
displaying braille and are working with NVDA.
I add them in JAWS. When I try their Bluetooth ports, I am inputting
the com numbers the computer is giving me. When I try the USB, the
drivers are installed correctly, I write USB.
Nothing is happening when I restart JAWS or the PC and JAWS.
I am not getting an error message, but no braille is being displayed either.
I have unpaired them from the PC and paried them again. I have tried
their supposed input and output ports just to make really sure. I have
tried the USB, nothing.
I really have no idea what else to try?
Is it just me or does anyone else believe that the whole interface of
configuring JAWS and a braille display lacks the ease of the iPhone,
or even NVDA? And when you write to support of iether the screenreader
or the braille display manufacturer, the one manufacturer thinks it
could be the other product and the support departments shift the
problem to each other like tennis.
Freedom Scientific should totally redesign the whole braille display
module or interface of jaws, or something should be done to find some
sort of solution to the whole three-way problem of hardware, software
and operating system triangulate in some sort of easier solution.
Thanks very much
Ari


Announcing Tabs On A Line

munawarb@...
 

In NVDA, you are able to set an option that will tell you how many tabs a line is indented by. Is there such a feature in JAWS?


I've checked out Speech and Sound Schemes but when I use the Visual Studio (Indent) scheme in Visual Studio, I don't hear tab indications. My code uses standard tabbing where each indent is one tab (not two, 4 or 8 spaces as presented in Speech and Sound Schemes.) I see the speech and sound option for one tab is 0.125 inches. Isn't this a "dangerous" implementation since it's based on a hard-coded tab width (which of course doesn't work in VS?)


It cant' be that a screen reader like this doesn't offer the ability to announce tabs, so can someone help me out here? How do I turn on tab announcements? I've recently switched back to JAWS after a few years away from it now that the pricing is more friendly and love what I'm seeing except for this one problem.


Re: Saveing an pdf file

 

What program does the PDF open in? If it is Acrobat Reader you can just press Control+Shift+S for Save As.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 12:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Saveing an pdf file

 

Hello:

 

How do you save a pdf file from a link in an email.

 

There is this book about linux  in the email if you click on the link it opens a pdf file.

 

I want to save the pdf file to my computer.

 

I would like to put it on my Polaris.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Thank you.

 

 


Re: Purchased Access 2016 on Ebay

Mario
 

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mario [mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com]
Sent: Mon, Dec 10, 2018 8:29 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Purchased Access 2016 on Ebay

Brent, paste the bit.ly address into any browser's address bar and
append a plus sign to the end, and press enter. the resulting page will
show you the revealed long address it belongs to.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Brent Harding [mailto:brent@hostany.net]
Sent: Mon, Dec 10, 2018 7:55 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Purchased Access 2016 on Ebay

Bit.ly is just an address shortener that anyone can use, doesn't mean
the content at the address given is necessarily from another country or
bad in nature, but definitely one of those things to proceed with
caution. It would be nice if there was a way to see where that link goes
without getting infected with something nasty, but it might be a
shortened link to a real long one at Microsoft that they thought
wouldn't come through the email properly.

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Shan Noyes <mailto:noyes01@sasktel.net>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Cc:* jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2018 8:46 AM
*Subject:* Re: Purchased Access 2016 on Ebay

  Have a good day  shan I hope it works out for you but I work in
the computer security industry and I am very leery about packages
like yes coming from other countries good luck hope it works out


On Dec 10, 2018, at 6:30 AM, Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@wi.rr.com
<mailto:kevinmeyers@wi.rr.com>> wrote:

Hello, I purchased Access 2016 on Ebay for $11. I was leary about
purchasing Access on Ebay at such a low price. I did it anyway. I
was then told the package was open and never used. Plus I would
get a key to download the software. I would have thought I would
get a link to Microsoft. I was given the site –
*https://bit.ly/2G7Lc0E. If it was never used how could end up on
a different site than Microsoft? Any thoughts? Thanks, Kevin*


Re: Purchased Access 2016 on Ebay

Mario
 

Brent, paste the bit.ly address into any browser's address bar and
append a plus sign to the end, and press enter. the resulting page will
show you the revealed long address it belongs to.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brent Harding [mailto:brent@hostany.net]
Sent: Mon, Dec 10, 2018 7:55 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Purchased Access 2016 on Ebay

Bit.ly is just an address shortener that anyone can use, doesn't mean
the content at the address given is necessarily from another country or
bad in nature, but definitely one of those things to proceed with
caution. It would be nice if there was a way to see where that link goes
without getting infected with something nasty, but it might be a
shortened link to a real long one at Microsoft that they thought
wouldn't come through the email properly.

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Shan Noyes <mailto:noyes01@sasktel.net>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Cc:* jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
*Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2018 8:46 AM
*Subject:* Re: Purchased Access 2016 on Ebay

  Have a good day  shan I hope it works out for you but I work in
the computer security industry and I am very leery about packages
like yes coming from other countries good luck hope it works out


On Dec 10, 2018, at 6:30 AM, Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@wi.rr.com
<mailto:kevinmeyers@wi.rr.com>> wrote:

Hello, I purchased Access 2016 on Ebay for $11. I was leary about
purchasing Access on Ebay at such a low price. I did it anyway. I
was then told the package was open and never used. Plus I would
get a key to download the software. I would have thought I would
get a link to Microsoft. I was given the site –
*https://bit.ly/2G7Lc0E. If it was never used how could end up on
a different site than Microsoft? Any thoughts? Thanks, Kevin*


Re: Purchased Access 2016 on Ebay

Brent Harding
 


On this kind of topic, I've seen ads on Facebook for extremely cheap Office 365, possibly claiming to be lifetime on sites like Digital Upgrade Studio. I'm kind of skeptical that these are bad in some way, but they keep popping up now and again on FB, the same outfit. I think the $11 deals on Ebay can be mostly legit in people wanting to get rid of stuff they no longer use, but there's very little lifetime anything when it comes to services.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: Purchased Access 2016 on Ebay

As an aside, given that "recycled licenses" for Office 2016 Pro Plus routinely cost about the same as the $11 paid for Access 2016, they're a better bargain and you get the entire office suite, including Access, in the bargain.

I have updated six computers now using recycled licenses purchased from eBay and have had no trouble except with one license key, which the seller promptly replaced with another when I let them know it didn't work.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Purchased Access 2016 on Ebay

Brent Harding
 


Bit.ly is just an address shortener that anyone can use, doesn't mean the content at the address given is necessarily from another country or bad in nature, but definitely one of those things to proceed with caution. It would be nice if there was a way to see where that link goes without getting infected with something nasty, but it might be a shortened link to a real long one at Microsoft that they thought wouldn't come through the email properly.
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Shan Noyes
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: Purchased Access 2016 on Ebay

  Have a good day  shan I hope it works out for you but I work in the computer security industry and I am very leery about packages like yes coming from other countries good luck hope it works out


On Dec 10, 2018, at 6:30 AM, Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...> wrote:

Hello, I purchased Access 2016 on Ebay for $11. I was leary about purchasing Access on Ebay at such a low price. I did it anyway. I was then told the package was open and never used. Plus I would get a key to download the software. I would have thought I would get a link to Microsoft. I was given the site – https://bit.ly/2G7Lc0E. If it was never used how could end up on a different site than Microsoft? Any thoughts? Thanks, Kevin


Re: How do I make a webpage the default in Chrome?

 

To get to the Chrome Menu button simply hit ALT and focus will be thrown to it.  Then hit Enter to open the menu choices.

After this, you can either down arrow to Settings and hit Enter or just hit S as that first letter activates it, either way the settings tab will open and focus will be thrown to it.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: How do I make a webpage the default in Chrome?

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Thanks, Brian. Yes, I could use help with the Settings process, too. Keith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 6:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: How do I make a webpage the default in Chrome?

 

Keith,

          I am presuming you already know how to get to the Chrome menu button and to select Settings from said menu.  [If not, just say so.]

          Once Settings open search on "On Startup" which is a section with three radio buttons (and you'll be selecting number three):

  1. Open the New Tab page.
  2. Continue where you left off (which opens all of the windows and tabs in each window you had up when you exited Chrome the last time you did so).
  3. Open a specific page or set of pages.


Once you select that radio button several things appear depending on what you've done in the past:

  1. A list of page(s) that you previously set.
  2. Add a new page link
  3. Use current pages link


Obviously, if you choose the "Add a new page" link you get a pop-up dialog asking you to enter the URL for same.  You can enter more than one page by activating this link repeatedly if you want multiple tabs to open when Chrome starts, each with one of the specified webpages.

Any additional questions please ask.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: How do I make a webpage the default in Chrome?

 

Keith,

          I am presuming you already know how to get to the Chrome menu button and to select Settings from said menu.  [If not, just say so.]

          Once Settings open search on "On Startup" which is a section with three radio buttons (and you'll be selecting number three):
  1. Open the New Tab page.
  2. Continue where you left off (which opens all of the windows and tabs in each window you had up when you exited Chrome the last time you did so).
  3. Open a specific page or set of pages.

Once you select that radio button several things appear depending on what you've done in the past:
  1. A list of page(s) that you previously set.
  2. Add a new page link
  3. Use current pages link

Obviously, if you choose the "Add a new page" link you get a pop-up dialog asking you to enter the URL for same.  You can enter more than one page by activating this link repeatedly if you want multiple tabs to open when Chrome starts, each with one of the specified webpages.

Any additional questions please ask.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


How do I make a webpage the default in Chrome?

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Hi,

 

I’m running Wind 10 with Jaws 2019.

 

How can I make a certain web page my default upon opening Chrome?

 

No luck so far trying to freelance it.

 

Thanks in advance, Keith


Re: Saveing an pdf file

 

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 03:37 PM, Nino Dagostino wrote:
There is this book about linux  in the email if you click on the link it opens a pdf file.
The question also arises:  Where/How does it open it?

Depending on how you have your browser set up it might open up in the browser or the file can be handed off to whatever you have set as your system's default PDF viewer.  If the latter, you can use the Save As feature of the system PDF viewer (e.g., Adobe Acrobat DC).  If the former, there's generally a download control in the browser's PDF presenter, but I haven't played with getting to that control via screen reader.

I personally hate having PDFs opened inside a web browser and promptly change the browser settings to have it pass off any PDF files to open with my system PDF viewer.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: Saveing an pdf file

Mario
 

Nino, right click the link, arrow down to and press the enter key on the
save link as command. the standard save as dialog should open allowing
you to type a name for the file (or accept the default name) and change
the location to where you want to save it onto your HD.

depending on which browser you're using, the term (it might just say
save as instead of save link as) and manner in which it saves the PDF
changes slightly but the concept is similar. for example, pressing the
application key or shift+f10 instead of right clicking, bla bla bla.

also, some websites may not allow to save the PDF, in which case there
may be another way to save the PDF such as simply pressing control+s
after it has been opened.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Nino Dagostino [mailto:ndagostino3@gmail.com]
Sent: Mon, Dec 10, 2018 3:37 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Saveing an pdf file

Hello:

How do you save a pdf file from a link in an email.

There is this book about linux  in the email if you click on the link it
opens a pdf file.

I want to save the pdf file to my computer.

I would like to put it on my Polaris.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.


Saveing an pdf file

Nino Dagostino
 

Hello:

 

How do you save a pdf file from a link in an email.

 

There is this book about linux  in the email if you click on the link it opens a pdf file.

 

I want to save the pdf file to my computer.

 

I would like to put it on my Polaris.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Thank you.

 

 


Re: pasting multiple items into ms excel

Van Lant, Robin
 

If u want them in separate columns, then I agree with the use of Notepad .  You can also see if pressing F2 in the cell where you want to paste, then Control V will work  I used this is I am capturing a paragraph or list that I want in one Excel cell.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: pasting multiple items into ms excel

 

You could paste the items into Notepad, then manually put them one after another separated either by a comma or a tab, once finished select all, copy and now paste into Excel.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Windels
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 1:49 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: pasting multiple items into ms excel

 

Hello,

For me job, I need to collect different parts of a website into the clipboard to paste in ms-excel 2010.

 

I use the jaws-script AppendTextToClipboard to collect the items into the clipboard but when I paste them in excel, the items are pasted each on a defferent row (below each other).

They should be pasted next to each other.

 

The transpose feature from ms excel is not solving the problem.

 

Any idea if I can force this with jaws, a jaws-script or anothe raccessible program on win10?

 

Kind regards for any responses.

 

William Windels

 

 

Met vriendelijke groeten

William Windels

 

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Re: Purchased Access 2016 on Ebay

 

Sorry, I forgot, but if you do click on the Link it takes me straight to a Save As dialogue for a file called "Access Retail" which is of type "disk image".

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 5:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Purchased Access 2016 on Ebay

 

I have two thoughts and one bit of information.

The info is the .ly extension means the domain is registered in Libya.

  1. I hope you have good credit monitoring.
  2. Run it through a virus scan before and after installing.

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 5:30 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Purchased Access 2016 on Ebay

 

Hello, I purchased Access 2016 on Ebay for $11. I was leary about purchasing Access on Ebay at such a low price. I did it anyway. I was then told the package was open and never used. Plus I would get a key to download the software. I would have thought I would get a link to Microsoft. I was given the site – https://bit.ly/2G7Lc0E. If it was never used how could end up on a different site than Microsoft? Any thoughts? Thanks, Kevin

 


Re: Purchased Access 2016 on Ebay

 

Hi Richard,

 

The fact that .Ly is for Lybia doesn't necessarily mean all that much in todays age of URL redirects and all that. I put "What is the www.bit.ly website" and received a lot of search results for the Bitly URL shortening service which uses bit.ly as their domain. Here is the Wikipedia article about Bitly, but I would say it's safe enough to use that link, what prompted me to Google it was the fact that it looked like a shortened URL.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 5:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Purchased Access 2016 on Ebay

 

I have two thoughts and one bit of information.

The info is the .ly extension means the domain is registered in Libya.

  1. I hope you have good credit monitoring.
  2. Run it through a virus scan before and after installing.

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 5:30 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Purchased Access 2016 on Ebay

 

Hello, I purchased Access 2016 on Ebay for $11. I was leary about purchasing Access on Ebay at such a low price. I did it anyway. I was then told the package was open and never used. Plus I would get a key to download the software. I would have thought I would get a link to Microsoft. I was given the site – https://bit.ly/2G7Lc0E. If it was never used how could end up on a different site than Microsoft? Any thoughts? Thanks, Kevin