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Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Roger Newell
 

Those instructions are incorrect. You should never modify default.jss
or default.jsb files. There are other ways that Freedom Scientific has
designed for you to create or modify JAWS behavior.

What you need to do is this:

Part A: Check your default.jss and default.jsb file
1. Open Script Manager and press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default file.
2. See if your punctuation script is in the file. If it is, keep
following these instructions. If not, skip to Part B.
3. You need to get a clean copy of these files. The way I would
recommend is to completely remove JAWS 2019 from your system. Then
install JAWS 2019 again, but do not migrate any settings because then
you will be back where you started.
4. Check before using JAWS that this folder is completely empty:
C:\Users\[YourUserDirectory]\AppData\Roaming\Freedom
Scientific\JAWS\2019\Settings\enu.

Part B: Adding your punctuation script
1. Open Script Manager.
2. Press CTRL+O to open the Open dialog.
3. Navigate to this location: C:\ProgramData\Freedom
Scientific\JAWS\2019\Scripts.
4. Open the file MyExtensions.jss.
5. Write your script at the bottom of this file, and press CTRL+S to compile it.

On 11/29/18, Tom <tomcat509@...> wrote:
Hi,
Following is the punctuation script and where it is available along with
installation instructions.

Maybe it does needs compiling again under Jaws 2019 and so I’ll try that
solution.

Source: http://www.jaws-users.com/scripts/JAWS/PunctuationLevelScript.html
Follow these steps to insert the code required to set up a hot key to toggle
the Jaws punctuation level.

press insert 0 (on the number row).
press control shift D
You should hear jaws script manage default.jss.
Hit control+end this will take you to the bottom of the file.
Hit enter twice, to insert a couple of blank lines.
paste in the following lines for the script:

Script TogglePunctuation ()
Say (PunctuationToggle (false), ot_no_disable)
EndScript

Place your cursor on the line that says Say (PunctuationToggle (false),
ot_no_disable).
Hit control+d.
Hit tab this will put you on the "can be attached to key" check box, this
should be checked, if it is not hit "space bar" to check it.
Hit tab this will take you to the "synopsis" where you can put in a short
description if you want.
Tab to the "assign short cut key" field and press the keystroke you want to
use for the script. Such as Control+Shift+P.
Tab to the okay button and enter. This will take you back to the script
editor.
Press control+S to compile your changes.
Press Alt-F4 to close the script editor

Cheers
Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger
Newell
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 7:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

I haven't heard of this particular script.

Just to verify, is this a third-party script for which you were
provided with the .jsb file? If so, please make sure you can locate
the file in the following location:
C:\Users\[YourUserDirectory]\AppData\Roaming\Freedom
Scientific\JAWS\2019\Settings\enu If you have the .jss and/or .jsh
file, you should probably show it to someone who knows how to read it
to verify that it's not calling on a particular script or function or
something that's been moved around in JAWS 2019.

On 11/28/18, Tom <tomcat509@...> wrote:
Using: W10 64 bit and Jaws 2019.

Hi

I have experienced a problem with the punctuation script since upgrading
from Jaws 2018 to 2019.

Under 2018, the script could be run from anywhere on the system but since
changing to 2019, the only place the script works is when it is run from
the
desktop. If I am in a folder on another drive say, hitting shift control
P,
Jaws says, "unknown script call to".

If I still wish to change the punctuation level then it is a trip back to
the Desktop and try again.

Cheers
Tom










Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Please remind me how to turn off and on the touch cursor in Windows 10

Michael Amaro
 

sorry don't know as I use a desktop

Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Please remind me how to turn off and on the touch cursor in Windows 10

Thanks. What is the PC cursor in laptop layout? Feeling kin od stupid right now. Thanks for your help. Keith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 7:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Please remind me how to turn off and on the touch cursor in Windows 10

 

shift plus pc cursor to invoke the touch cursor.  Double tap the pc cursor to turn off the touch cursor

 

Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 5:18 PM

Subject: Please remind me how to turn off and on the touch cursor in Windows 10

 

Hi,

 

Can someone please remind me how to turn on and off Touch Cursor in Windows 10?

 

Thanks. Keith


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Please remind me how to turn off and on the touch cursor in Windows 10

Bill White
 

In Laptop Layout PC cursor is:

 

CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON

 

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 5:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Please remind me how to turn off and on the touch cursor in Windows 10

 

Thanks. What is the PC cursor in laptop layout? Feeling kin od stupid right now. Thanks for your help. Keith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 7:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Please remind me how to turn off and on the touch cursor in Windows 10

 

shift plus pc cursor to invoke the touch cursor.  Double tap the pc cursor to turn off the touch cursor

 

Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 5:18 PM

Subject: Please remind me how to turn off and on the touch cursor in Windows 10

 

Hi,

 

Can someone please remind me how to turn on and off Touch Cursor in Windows 10?

 

Thanks. Keith


Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

ratshtron
 

its posible but you will have to load them up in
to the script manager and press ctrl plus s to
recompile them. its also posible that some of the
functions may not work without some editing.


Legend has it that on Wednesday 11/28/2018 04:28 PM, Marty Hutchings said:
----------------------------------------
I have a set of scripts that were written for an
audio editing and recording program that were
written for JFW 5.0. Could these scripts be used in JAWS 18?



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message----- From: Roger Newell
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

The Freedom Scientific Developer Network (FSDN) is a technical manual
about the JAWS Script Manager and script files that you may find
useful.

On 11/29/18, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:
Matthew, yes, it's the restructuring of settings that's confusing me.
do you know if there is any documentation that details all that has been
done? I don't want to get too deep all at once, first understand what's
been done to try to understand the restructured behavior, especially for
the default scripts and when using scripts written by someone else.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Matthew Horspool [mailto:mhorspool@...]
Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2018 9:17 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Hi Mario,

Ah, yes, I see. It's been quite a while since I've done any significant
tinkering under the hood. I do know that some restructuring of settings
went on not so long ago but I don't know the details. You could probably
work them out, though, just by having a browse through your user
settings folder and, if that fails, the shared settings folder.

Is this the extent of your trouble or are there more serious issues
going on? I would say it should be OK to continue this thread on list as
there may be others with this problem, but if a mod feels differently I
will go with that.

Matthew





-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: 28 November 2018 13:47
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?



in regard to #2, that's what I want to understand. I am trying to figure
out how to implement the scripting method I developed for previous
versions of JAWS since version 11. now with 2018 and probably above, it
seems FS has changed how things are done in scripting. can someone help
if I email you offlist to explain further?







-------- Original Message --------

From: Matthew Horspool [mailto:mhorspool@...]

Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2018 3:03 AM EST

To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?



Hi,



A few points to answer here:



1. To compile a script: as others have said, CTRL+S is the magic
keystroke. However, you need to be in the script manager to do this! To
get to the Script Manager, press JAWSKey+0. If you do this from within
the application for which the script was written and a JSS file for that
application is present in the user's settings directory, the correct
file should be loaded automatically. Simply ALT+F4 out of the Script
Manager after you receive the compiler success message.

2. Usually, the JSB (JAWS Script Binary) ends up in the same
place as the JSS (JAWS Script Source). The same does not always apply,
however, for JSD (JAWS Script Documentation), JSH (JAWS Script Header),
JSM (JAWS Script Messages), JKM (JAWS Key Map), JCF (JAWS Configuration
File), JDF (JAWS Dictionary File) and so on. This is because a file only
ends up in the user's settings directory if it is changed from the
default or otherwise put there. Usually a new JSB is created because the
JSS has been modified, so both files end up in the user directory even
when modifying stock scripts. However, if you are only modifying
existing scripts and the documentation, keymap, etc has not required an
update, the JSD file may never make it across.

3. Save without compile is useful if something has gone wrong in
your code which is causing the compiler to throw an error and you can't
figure out what. In such a case, you may wish to sleep on the problem
and come back to it next day.



HTH,



Matthew







-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Isaac

Sent: 28 November 2018 07:10

To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?







So, why would you save with out compiling?



----- Original Message -----



From: "ratshtron"

<northstarr1950@...<mailto:northstarr1950@...<mailto:northstarr1950@...%3cmailto:northstarr1950@...>>>



To:
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io%3cmailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>>



Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:44 PM



Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?











to compile a jaws script, you must have the



script file loaded and you simply save the script



with any changes with ctrl plus s. to save



without compiling you use ctrl plus w. hope this helps.











Legend has it that on Tuesday 11/27/2018 05:21 PM, Brian Vogel said:



----------------------------------------



If anyone can point me to the instructions with



regard to compiling JAWS scripts I would



appreciate it. I have never found the



scripting documentation that I know of to be particularly useful.--







Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â







  Explanations exist; they have existed for



all time; there is always a well-known solution



to every human problem - neat, plausible, andd wrong.







     ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore







----------------------------------------

























































----------------------------------------


Having Problems With Auto-complete Addresses In Outlook 2016

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

On my new Windows 10 computer, I am having trouble getting Outlook 2016 to consistently auto-complete addresses.

 

I recall a recent thread on this issue, but don’t know if it ever got resolved.

 

I am currently using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on this new computer, due to the problems we are having with Jaws 2019.

 

Tom Behler

 

 


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Please remind me how to turn off and on the touch cursor in Windows 10

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Thanks. What is the PC cursor in laptop layout? Feeling kin od stupid right now. Thanks for your help. Keith

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 7:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Please remind me how to turn off and on the touch cursor in Windows 10

 

shift plus pc cursor to invoke the touch cursor.  Double tap the pc cursor to turn off the touch cursor

 

Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 5:18 PM

Subject: Please remind me how to turn off and on the touch cursor in Windows 10

 

Hi,

 

Can someone please remind me how to turn on and off Touch Cursor in Windows 10?

 

Thanks. Keith


Re: Please remind me how to turn off and on the touch cursor in Windows 10

Michael Amaro
 

shift plus pc cursor to invoke the touch cursor.  Double tap the pc cursor to turn off the touch cursor

Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 5:18 PM
Subject: Please remind me how to turn off and on the touch cursor in Windows 10

Hi,

 

Can someone please remind me how to turn on and off Touch Cursor in Windows 10?

 

Thanks. Keith


Please remind me how to turn off and on the touch cursor in Windows 10

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Hi,

 

Can someone please remind me how to turn on and off Touch Cursor in Windows 10?

 

Thanks. Keith


Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

Hi,
Following is the punctuation script and where it is available along with installation instructions.

Maybe it does needs compiling again under Jaws 2019 and so I’ll try that solution.

Source: http://www.jaws-users.com/scripts/JAWS/PunctuationLevelScript.html
Follow these steps to insert the code required to set up a hot key to toggle the Jaws punctuation level.

press insert 0 (on the number row).
press control shift D
You should hear jaws script manage default.jss.
Hit control+end this will take you to the bottom of the file.
Hit enter twice, to insert a couple of blank lines.
paste in the following lines for the script:

Script TogglePunctuation ()
Say (PunctuationToggle (false), ot_no_disable)
EndScript

Place your cursor on the line that says Say (PunctuationToggle (false), ot_no_disable).
Hit control+d.
Hit tab this will put you on the "can be attached to key" check box, this should be checked, if it is not hit "space bar" to check it.
Hit tab this will take you to the "synopsis" where you can put in a short description if you want.
Tab to the "assign short cut key" field and press the keystroke you want to use for the script. Such as Control+Shift+P.
Tab to the okay button and enter. This will take you back to the script editor.
Press control+S to compile your changes.
Press Alt-F4 to close the script editor

Cheers
Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Newell
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2018 7:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

I haven't heard of this particular script.

Just to verify, is this a third-party script for which you were
provided with the .jsb file? If so, please make sure you can locate
the file in the following location:
C:\Users\[YourUserDirectory]\AppData\Roaming\Freedom
Scientific\JAWS\2019\Settings\enu If you have the .jss and/or .jsh
file, you should probably show it to someone who knows how to read it
to verify that it's not calling on a particular script or function or
something that's been moved around in JAWS 2019.

On 11/28/18, Tom <tomcat509@...> wrote:
Using: W10 64 bit and Jaws 2019.

Hi

I have experienced a problem with the punctuation script since upgrading
from Jaws 2018 to 2019.

Under 2018, the script could be run from anywhere on the system but since
changing to 2019, the only place the script works is when it is run from
the
desktop. If I am in a folder on another drive say, hitting shift control
P,
Jaws says, "unknown script call to".

If I still wish to change the punctuation level then it is a trip back to
the Desktop and try again.

Cheers
Tom




Re: [Leasey] Potential Training Course: Microsoft PowerPoint with JAWS for Windows.

David & his pack of dogs
 

The dogs map out the course, it’s caught on video one of them has a camera attached to his collar.  Then a power point presentation is made.  LOL. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: November 28, 2018 8:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Leasey] Potential Training Course: Microsoft PowerPoint with JAWS for Windows.

 

You mean it is you and your pack of dogs who heads the course? Or is it the course mapped out by the pack before we step into it? Or . . . 

Fun, eh?

Curtis Delzer 

H.S.

WB6HEF

San Bernardino, CA

_____

SENT! From Curt’s iPhone!


On Nov 28, 2018, at 6:50 AM, David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...> wrote:

I think it was just poor timing on my part. I was having trouble with setting up my website and someone offered to help me set things up.  Sadly his grammar in correspondence was so atrocious that it was hard to fathom him being a professional.  The idea from me was, if he paid such little attention to using a spell checker to check grammar and spelling, how much dedication would he have towards helping me and listening to my requirements. So, with Brian, I think with his responses being so quick and at times where people would be normally sleeping or getting up, I doubted the validity of his product. Or, to be blunt, I thought it was all a scam. Like I said, the timing was poor.  Also, I have become busy with my dog boarding and training so, have little time to take the power point course.  By the time I could take it, my brain would be to tired to take anything in anyway. Hopefully they will get enough interest to get it off the ground.  Maybe in a year I will be able to purchase the course but, more importantly have the time to listen to it with my brain not being to tired. Think of it this way, you are looking after a toddler and have to watch it all the time and ones around you are not making the area toddler safe even though they’ve been told too.      

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matthew Horspool
Sent: November 27, 2018 6:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Leasey] Potential Training Course: Microsoft PowerPoint with JAWS for Windows.

 

Hi David,

I believe Brian works from home and is naturally awake very early in the morning (presumably due to non-24), so I guess he figured he'd use his time productively and take care of some work emails while things were quiet.

Obviously, if you're unhappy with the quality of the response you received you're under no obligation to continue doing business with Hartgen Consultancy, but I wouldn't not work with them just because of the time they happen to be awake.

Matthew

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: 27 November 2018 14:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Leasey] Potential Training Course: Microsoft PowerPoint with JAWS for Windows.

 

I did not get a good feeling with the correspondence I received. The office is based in the U K, yet the times of the correspondence did not jive with U K time, for that matter U S either. If a office opens at 9 AM, why would one get correspondence at 5 AM?  Even allowing for time zones, that is still before the business opens. JMT.     

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: November 26, 2018 1:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Leasey] Potential Training Course: Microsoft PowerPoint with JAWS for Windows.

 

Since I have to work with PPT and poor accessibility issues, I’ll be glad to participate, however, I cannot use Office 365 at Oracle, I must use a licensed copy which is currently Office2016.

 

From: David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:32 AM
To: JAWS Mailing List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: [Leasey] Potential Training Course: Microsoft PowerPoint with JAWS for Windows.

 

The following message is from Brian Hartgen and was posted to the Leasey mailing list.

 






Several weeks ago, we were asked if a training course could be created to teach people how to use Microsoft PowerPoint with JAWS. People not only wanted to learn how to prepare visually appealing PowerPoint presentations, (including adding graphical images), but also how to add music or sound to them, run the presentations as slide shows and add or review Speakers Notes.

 

This training course has now been researched and it is possible this could be produced in January of 2019. Teaching this subject however is very high risk in a number of areas.

 

As blind people managing our small company, we will need to ensure that visual assistance is obtained so as to include visually appealing graphics of the required dimensions. But most importantly, it is our view that the support currently provided in terms of screen-reading with PowerPoint from Office 365 is simply not sufficient for what we need to do. Conveying this subject in easy to understand terms was always going to be tricky, but to do so when the access you will receive in this area has shortcomings is even more problematic.

 

A basic example would be accessing the Speakers Notes. These are notes or reminders to you, the person delivering the presentation, as to what you can say above and beyond what is stated in the slide the audience is viewing. There used to be a keystroke which would allow focus to be set to that area of the screen. This is no longer possible. Moreover, if you are using a Braille display, how are you going to read those notes without disturbing visual focus away from the application? A mechanism for listening to those notes also needs to be found. There are also a large number of other inaccessible areas which need some attention.

 

To that end, as with all our training courses, we would need please a commitment from anyone interested to make the project viable. This would allow for the delivery of the training course together with bringing the existing JAWS support up-to-date.

We have had a small number of people expressing an interest in this subject so far, but whether it goes ahead really does boil down to what kind of commitment we do receive.

 

The training course would be delivered over a four-hour period in January of 2019. It would include details of many aspects of creating presentations in an accessible way, identifying (as far as possible) whether the presentations were visually acceptable, navigating through slides, working with visual themes, using tables and bulleted lists, editing presentations, delivering your presentation to an audience, and more. A full course outline would be presented if the training course goes ahead.

 

If you would like to purchase this training course, please write to brian@.... We will then send to you an invoice for payment. Assuming we have enough committed people to make the course viable, then we will present the details formally on our website with a full course outline. The cost would be £50 which is currently $62. We would ideally need to hear from you by 7 December 2018 because that will give sufficient time for the JAWS scripting work to go ahead prior to the commencement of the training course in 2019.

 

If we do not receive a sufficient response, unfortunately we cannot take this project further because there are many hours of work ahead even before a training course of this magnitude can start to be prepared.

 

We very much look forward to hearing from anyone interested in what could be an interesting venture.

 

Brian Hartgen

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Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Roger Newell
 

I wonder that even if the scripts were recompiled, they may not work
because the audio editing program may have changed so much since then
because there have probably been new versions of this program that
have been released since these scripts were made that change how the
program looks and how JAWS should interact with it.

On 11/29/18, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings@...> wrote:
I have a set of scripts that were written for an audio editing and recording

program that were written for JFW 5.0. Could these scripts be used in JAWS

18?



Love in Christ
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Newell
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

The Freedom Scientific Developer Network (FSDN) is a technical manual
about the JAWS Script Manager and script files that you may find
useful.

On 11/29/18, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:
Matthew, yes, it's the restructuring of settings that's confusing me.
do you know if there is any documentation that details all that has been
done? I don't want to get too deep all at once, first understand what's
been done to try to understand the restructured behavior, especially for
the default scripts and when using scripts written by someone else.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Matthew Horspool [mailto:mhorspool@...]
Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2018 9:17 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Hi Mario,

Ah, yes, I see. It's been quite a while since I've done any significant
tinkering under the hood. I do know that some restructuring of settings
went on not so long ago but I don't know the details. You could probably
work them out, though, just by having a browse through your user
settings folder and, if that fails, the shared settings folder.

Is this the extent of your trouble or are there more serious issues
going on? I would say it should be OK to continue this thread on list as
there may be others with this problem, but if a mod feels differently I
will go with that.

Matthew





-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: 28 November 2018 13:47
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?



in regard to #2, that's what I want to understand. I am trying to figure
out how to implement the scripting method I developed for previous
versions of JAWS since version 11. now with 2018 and probably above, it
seems FS has changed how things are done in scripting. can someone help
if I email you offlist to explain further?







-------- Original Message --------

From: Matthew Horspool [mailto:mhorspool@...]

Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2018 3:03 AM EST

To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?



Hi,



A few points to answer here:



1. To compile a script: as others have said, CTRL+S is the magic
keystroke. However, you need to be in the script manager to do this! To
get to the Script Manager, press JAWSKey+0. If you do this from within
the application for which the script was written and a JSS file for that
application is present in the user's settings directory, the correct
file should be loaded automatically. Simply ALT+F4 out of the Script
Manager after you receive the compiler success message.

2. Usually, the JSB (JAWS Script Binary) ends up in the same
place as the JSS (JAWS Script Source). The same does not always apply,
however, for JSD (JAWS Script Documentation), JSH (JAWS Script Header),
JSM (JAWS Script Messages), JKM (JAWS Key Map), JCF (JAWS Configuration
File), JDF (JAWS Dictionary File) and so on. This is because a file only
ends up in the user's settings directory if it is changed from the
default or otherwise put there. Usually a new JSB is created because the
JSS has been modified, so both files end up in the user directory even
when modifying stock scripts. However, if you are only modifying
existing scripts and the documentation, keymap, etc has not required an
update, the JSD file may never make it across.

3. Save without compile is useful if something has gone wrong in
your code which is causing the compiler to throw an error and you can't
figure out what. In such a case, you may wish to sleep on the problem
and come back to it next day.



HTH,



Matthew







-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Isaac

Sent: 28 November 2018 07:10

To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?







So, why would you save with out compiling?



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From: "ratshtron"

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To:
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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:44 PM



Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?











to compile a jaws script, you must have the



script file loaded and you simply save the script



with any changes with ctrl plus s. to save



without compiling you use ctrl plus w. hope this helps.











Legend has it that on Tuesday 11/27/2018 05:21 PM, Brian Vogel said:



----------------------------------------



If anyone can point me to the instructions with



regard to compiling JAWS scripts I would



appreciate it. I have never found the



scripting documentation that I know of to be particularly useful.--







Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â







  Explanations exist; they have existed for



all time; there is always a well-known solution



to every human problem - neat, plausible, andd wrong.







     ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore







----------------------------------------






























































Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Marty Hutchings
 

I have a set of scripts that were written for an audio editing and recording program that were written for JFW 5.0. Could these scripts be used in JAWS 18?



Love in Christ
Marty

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Newell
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

The Freedom Scientific Developer Network (FSDN) is a technical manual
about the JAWS Script Manager and script files that you may find
useful.

On 11/29/18, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:
Matthew, yes, it's the restructuring of settings that's confusing me.
do you know if there is any documentation that details all that has been
done? I don't want to get too deep all at once, first understand what's
been done to try to understand the restructured behavior, especially for
the default scripts and when using scripts written by someone else.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Matthew Horspool [mailto:mhorspool@...]
Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2018 9:17 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Hi Mario,

Ah, yes, I see. It's been quite a while since I've done any significant
tinkering under the hood. I do know that some restructuring of settings
went on not so long ago but I don't know the details. You could probably
work them out, though, just by having a browse through your user
settings folder and, if that fails, the shared settings folder.

Is this the extent of your trouble or are there more serious issues
going on? I would say it should be OK to continue this thread on list as
there may be others with this problem, but if a mod feels differently I
will go with that.

Matthew





-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: 28 November 2018 13:47
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?



in regard to #2, that's what I want to understand. I am trying to figure
out how to implement the scripting method I developed for previous
versions of JAWS since version 11. now with 2018 and probably above, it
seems FS has changed how things are done in scripting. can someone help
if I email you offlist to explain further?







-------- Original Message --------

From: Matthew Horspool [mailto:mhorspool@...]

Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2018 3:03 AM EST

To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?



Hi,



A few points to answer here:



1. To compile a script: as others have said, CTRL+S is the magic
keystroke. However, you need to be in the script manager to do this! To
get to the Script Manager, press JAWSKey+0. If you do this from within
the application for which the script was written and a JSS file for that
application is present in the user's settings directory, the correct
file should be loaded automatically. Simply ALT+F4 out of the Script
Manager after you receive the compiler success message.

2. Usually, the JSB (JAWS Script Binary) ends up in the same
place as the JSS (JAWS Script Source). The same does not always apply,
however, for JSD (JAWS Script Documentation), JSH (JAWS Script Header),
JSM (JAWS Script Messages), JKM (JAWS Key Map), JCF (JAWS Configuration
File), JDF (JAWS Dictionary File) and so on. This is because a file only
ends up in the user's settings directory if it is changed from the
default or otherwise put there. Usually a new JSB is created because the
JSS has been modified, so both files end up in the user directory even
when modifying stock scripts. However, if you are only modifying
existing scripts and the documentation, keymap, etc has not required an
update, the JSD file may never make it across.

3. Save without compile is useful if something has gone wrong in
your code which is causing the compiler to throw an error and you can't
figure out what. In such a case, you may wish to sleep on the problem
and come back to it next day.



HTH,



Matthew







-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Isaac

Sent: 28 November 2018 07:10

To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?







So, why would you save with out compiling?



----- Original Message -----



From: "ratshtron"

<northstarr1950@...<mailto:northstarr1950@...<mailto:northstarr1950@...%3cmailto:northstarr1950@...>>>



To:
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io%3cmailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>>



Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:44 PM



Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?











to compile a jaws script, you must have the



script file loaded and you simply save the script



with any changes with ctrl plus s. to save



without compiling you use ctrl plus w. hope this helps.











Legend has it that on Tuesday 11/27/2018 05:21 PM, Brian Vogel said:



----------------------------------------



If anyone can point me to the instructions with



regard to compiling JAWS scripts I would



appreciate it. I have never found the



scripting documentation that I know of to be particularly useful.--







Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â







  Explanations exist; they have existed for



all time; there is always a well-known solution



to every human problem - neat, plausible, andd wrong.







     ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore







----------------------------------------

























































Re: Jaws with Microsoft 365

Michal Nowicki
 

I believe that's true only if you use the web apps. However, since Office
365 allows access to the full desktop apps in addition to the online apps,
this should not be an issue. For anyone who uses Office 365 with JAWS, I
strongly recommend the desktop apps over the web interface. The desktop apps
continue to offer better functionality not only with respect to
accessibility, but also with respect to supported features.

Best,

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws with Microsoft 365

Office 365 requires different shortcuts than the regular office programs.
Check out the free webinar on the JAWS resources page.
1. Go to the JAWS screen, insert+j
2. Press alt+h (help)
3. press r (resources)
4. Press w (free webinars)
5. press enter.

The office 365 webinar will tell you more than you want to know.

Ann


Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Roger Newell
 

The Freedom Scientific Developer Network (FSDN) is a technical manual
about the JAWS Script Manager and script files that you may find
useful.

On 11/29/18, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:
Matthew, yes, it's the restructuring of settings that's confusing me.
do you know if there is any documentation that details all that has been
done? I don't want to get too deep all at once, first understand what's
been done to try to understand the restructured behavior, especially for
the default scripts and when using scripts written by someone else.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Matthew Horspool [mailto:mhorspool@...]
Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2018 9:17 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Hi Mario,

Ah, yes, I see. It's been quite a while since I've done any significant
tinkering under the hood. I do know that some restructuring of settings
went on not so long ago but I don't know the details. You could probably
work them out, though, just by having a browse through your user
settings folder and, if that fails, the shared settings folder.

Is this the extent of your trouble or are there more serious issues
going on? I would say it should be OK to continue this thread on list as
there may be others with this problem, but if a mod feels differently I
will go with that.

Matthew





-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: 28 November 2018 13:47
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?



in regard to #2, that's what I want to understand. I am trying to figure
out how to implement the scripting method I developed for previous
versions of JAWS since version 11. now with 2018 and probably above, it
seems FS has changed how things are done in scripting. can someone help
if I email you offlist to explain further?







-------- Original Message --------

From: Matthew Horspool [mailto:mhorspool@...]

Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2018 3:03 AM EST

To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?



Hi,



A few points to answer here:



1. To compile a script: as others have said, CTRL+S is the magic
keystroke. However, you need to be in the script manager to do this! To
get to the Script Manager, press JAWSKey+0. If you do this from within
the application for which the script was written and a JSS file for that
application is present in the user's settings directory, the correct
file should be loaded automatically. Simply ALT+F4 out of the Script
Manager after you receive the compiler success message.

2. Usually, the JSB (JAWS Script Binary) ends up in the same
place as the JSS (JAWS Script Source). The same does not always apply,
however, for JSD (JAWS Script Documentation), JSH (JAWS Script Header),
JSM (JAWS Script Messages), JKM (JAWS Key Map), JCF (JAWS Configuration
File), JDF (JAWS Dictionary File) and so on. This is because a file only
ends up in the user's settings directory if it is changed from the
default or otherwise put there. Usually a new JSB is created because the
JSS has been modified, so both files end up in the user directory even
when modifying stock scripts. However, if you are only modifying
existing scripts and the documentation, keymap, etc has not required an
update, the JSD file may never make it across.

3. Save without compile is useful if something has gone wrong in
your code which is causing the compiler to throw an error and you can't
figure out what. In such a case, you may wish to sleep on the problem
and come back to it next day.



HTH,



Matthew







-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Isaac

Sent: 28 November 2018 07:10

To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?







So, why would you save with out compiling?



----- Original Message -----



From: "ratshtron"

<northstarr1950@...<mailto:northstarr1950@...<mailto:northstarr1950@...%3cmailto:northstarr1950@...>>>



To:
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io%3cmailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>>



Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:44 PM



Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?











to compile a jaws script, you must have the



script file loaded and you simply save the script



with any changes with ctrl plus s. to save



without compiling you use ctrl plus w. hope this helps.











Legend has it that on Tuesday 11/27/2018 05:21 PM, Brian Vogel said:



----------------------------------------



If anyone can point me to the instructions with



regard to compiling JAWS scripts I would



appreciate it. I have never found the



scripting documentation that I know of to be particularly useful.--







Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Â







  Explanations exist; they have existed for



all time; there is always a well-known solution



to every human problem - neat, plausible, andd wrong.







     ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore







----------------------------------------

























































Re: [Leasey] Potential Training Course: Microsoft PowerPoint with JAWS for Windows.

Curtis Delzer
 

You mean it is you and your pack of dogs who heads the course? Or is it the course mapped out by the pack before we step into it? Or . . . 
Fun, eh?

Curtis Delzer 
H.S.
WB6HEF
San Bernardino, CA
_____
SENT! From Curt’s iPhone!

On Nov 28, 2018, at 6:50 AM, David & his pack of dogs <myguidedogis@...> wrote:

I think it was just poor timing on my part. I was having trouble with setting up my website and someone offered to help me set things up.  Sadly his grammar in correspondence was so atrocious that it was hard to fathom him being a professional.  The idea from me was, if he paid such little attention to using a spell checker to check grammar and spelling, how much dedication would he have towards helping me and listening to my requirements. So, with Brian, I think with his responses being so quick and at times where people would be normally sleeping or getting up, I doubted the validity of his product. Or, to be blunt, I thought it was all a scam. Like I said, the timing was poor.  Also, I have become busy with my dog boarding and training so, have little time to take the power point course.  By the time I could take it, my brain would be to tired to take anything in anyway. Hopefully they will get enough interest to get it off the ground.  Maybe in a year I will be able to purchase the course but, more importantly have the time to listen to it with my brain not being to tired. Think of it this way, you are looking after a toddler and have to watch it all the time and ones around you are not making the area toddler safe even though they’ve been told too.      

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matthew Horspool
Sent: November 27, 2018 6:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Leasey] Potential Training Course: Microsoft PowerPoint with JAWS for Windows.

 

Hi David,

I believe Brian works from home and is naturally awake very early in the morning (presumably due to non-24), so I guess he figured he'd use his time productively and take care of some work emails while things were quiet.

Obviously, if you're unhappy with the quality of the response you received you're under no obligation to continue doing business with Hartgen Consultancy, but I wouldn't not work with them just because of the time they happen to be awake.

Matthew

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: 27 November 2018 14:27
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Leasey] Potential Training Course: Microsoft PowerPoint with JAWS for Windows.

 

I did not get a good feeling with the correspondence I received. The office is based in the U K, yet the times of the correspondence did not jive with U K time, for that matter U S either. If a office opens at 9 AM, why would one get correspondence at 5 AM?  Even allowing for time zones, that is still before the business opens. JMT.     

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: November 26, 2018 1:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Leasey] Potential Training Course: Microsoft PowerPoint with JAWS for Windows.

 

Since I have to work with PPT and poor accessibility issues, I’ll be glad to participate, however, I cannot use Office 365 at Oracle, I must use a licensed copy which is currently Office2016.

 

From: David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:32 AM
To: JAWS Mailing List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: [Leasey] Potential Training Course: Microsoft PowerPoint with JAWS for Windows.

 

The following message is from Brian Hartgen and was posted to the Leasey mailing list.

 





Several weeks ago, we were asked if a training course could be created to teach people how to use Microsoft PowerPoint with JAWS. People not only wanted to learn how to prepare visually appealing PowerPoint presentations, (including adding graphical images), but also how to add music or sound to them, run the presentations as slide shows and add or review Speakers Notes.

 

This training course has now been researched and it is possible this could be produced in January of 2019. Teaching this subject however is very high risk in a number of areas.

 

As blind people managing our small company, we will need to ensure that visual assistance is obtained so as to include visually appealing graphics of the required dimensions. But most importantly, it is our view that the support currently provided in terms of screen-reading with PowerPoint from Office 365 is simply not sufficient for what we need to do. Conveying this subject in easy to understand terms was always going to be tricky, but to do so when the access you will receive in this area has shortcomings is even more problematic.

 

A basic example would be accessing the Speakers Notes. These are notes or reminders to you, the person delivering the presentation, as to what you can say above and beyond what is stated in the slide the audience is viewing. There used to be a keystroke which would allow focus to be set to that area of the screen. This is no longer possible. Moreover, if you are using a Braille display, how are you going to read those notes without disturbing visual focus away from the application? A mechanism for listening to those notes also needs to be found. There are also a large number of other inaccessible areas which need some attention.

 

To that end, as with all our training courses, we would need please a commitment from anyone interested to make the project viable. This would allow for the delivery of the training course together with bringing the existing JAWS support up-to-date.

We have had a small number of people expressing an interest in this subject so far, but whether it goes ahead really does boil down to what kind of commitment we do receive.

 

The training course would be delivered over a four-hour period in January of 2019. It would include details of many aspects of creating presentations in an accessible way, identifying (as far as possible) whether the presentations were visually acceptable, navigating through slides, working with visual themes, using tables and bulleted lists, editing presentations, delivering your presentation to an audience, and more. A full course outline would be presented if the training course goes ahead.

 

If you would like to purchase this training course, please write to brian@.... We will then send to you an invoice for payment. Assuming we have enough committed people to make the course viable, then we will present the details formally on our website with a full course outline. The cost would be £50 which is currently $62. We would ideally need to hear from you by 7 December 2018 because that will give sufficient time for the JAWS scripting work to go ahead prior to the commencement of the training course in 2019.

 

If we do not receive a sufficient response, unfortunately we cannot take this project further because there are many hours of work ahead even before a training course of this magnitude can start to be prepared.

 

We very much look forward to hearing from anyone interested in what could be an interesting venture.

 

Brian Hartgen

Choose Hartgen Consultancy for high quality JAWS Script Writing, training and our products including J-Say, J-Dictate and Leasey.

Opening Hours: 9 AM to 5 PM UK time, Monday to Friday.

Telephone (in the UK) 02920-850298.

Telephone (in the United States of America) 1-415-871-0626.

Telephone (from any other country) +44-2920-820598.

Visit our website for more information!

 

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Re: Jaws 18 and jaws 2018 Facebook

O.Addison Gethers
 

Matthew May I have your email address ? I will go to try regular facebook to see what’s happens from there with my jaws 2018

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew Horspool
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 10:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 18 and jaws 2018 Facebook

 

Hi Addison,

M Facebook is generally less cluttered, which is why I suspect FS tech support encourage its use. Regular Facebook is still perfectly accessible, though.

As I say, I'm hardly a Facebook expert so I'm not sure what support I would be able to offer you off-list that others can't do better on-list.

Matthew

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: 28 November 2018 14:58
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 18 and jaws 2018 Facebook

 

Hi Matthew Thanks for your response ,I wasn’t sure if www.facebook.com  is accessible with jaws because when I go on www.facebook.com  I noticed jaws was acted up on the page for some reason. So I did calls fs technical support about it she told me go to m.facebook.com where jaws is accessible better on it than regular facebook  for my u understanding that regular facebook  page have more features than m.facebook.com   page !! If you don’t mind writing me off list at  O.addisonGethers@... 

Addison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew Horspool
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 9:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 18 and jaws 2018 Facebook

 

Hello Addison,

I am not a Facebook expert so I did not jump into this thread straight away, thinking that perhaps someone else might have a more thorough answer. But yes, the regular facebook.com website is accessible with JAWS.

There shouldn't be any difference in notifications between regular Facebook and M Facebook, as far as I know. You will not get notified every time somebody posts as this is the purpose of the news feed.

I hope I have understood your questions correctly. I wouldn't usually point it out, but since you bring it up, your messages don't contain very much punctuation and the wording is not very clear, so it does take quite a while for me to process what you've said and then even longer to interpret it. If you could perhaps insert a few more full stops it might make things a little easier.

Best wishes,

Matthew

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: 28 November 2018 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 18 and jaws 2018 Facebook

 

Hello Is there anyone can helped me?If not then I don’t understand you all can helps other unless you all doesn’t understand me and not much experience on computer stuff and have not had much computer training . If I defend anyone feeling I’m sorry !!

Addison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:33 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws 18 and jaws 2018 Facebook

 

Hello All  Is jaws accessible to read on www.facebook.com  ? I have been using m.facebook.com  website  I’m having problem not receiving notifications page with the people who’s I’m following and like theirs page to receive theirs post on notification on m.facebook.com  I was wonder if I need to go to regular facebook website. I noticed on yesterday I went on lite.facebook.com website and heard some of the people that I’m follow is there but when I press enter on it jaws is little behave acts on the page. I really need some help here because I can’t use my mobile phone with hearing impairment not able to hear voiceover loud enough to understandit. I have desktop and laptop computer.

Addison

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Jaws 18 and jaws 2018 Facebook

Matthew Horspool
 

Hi Addison,

M Facebook is generally less cluttered, which is why I suspect FS tech support encourage its use. Regular Facebook is still perfectly accessible, though.

As I say, I'm hardly a Facebook expert so I'm not sure what support I would be able to offer you off-list that others can't do better on-list.

Matthew

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: 28 November 2018 14:58
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 18 and jaws 2018 Facebook

 

Hi Matthew Thanks for your response ,I wasn’t sure if www.facebook.com  is accessible with jaws because when I go on www.facebook.com  I noticed jaws was acted up on the page for some reason. So I did calls fs technical support about it she told me go to m.facebook.com where jaws is accessible better on it than regular facebook  for my u understanding that regular facebook  page have more features than m.facebook.com   page !! If you don’t mind writing me off list at  O.addisonGethers@... 

Addison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew Horspool
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 9:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 18 and jaws 2018 Facebook

 

Hello Addison,

I am not a Facebook expert so I did not jump into this thread straight away, thinking that perhaps someone else might have a more thorough answer. But yes, the regular facebook.com website is accessible with JAWS.

There shouldn't be any difference in notifications between regular Facebook and M Facebook, as far as I know. You will not get notified every time somebody posts as this is the purpose of the news feed.

I hope I have understood your questions correctly. I wouldn't usually point it out, but since you bring it up, your messages don't contain very much punctuation and the wording is not very clear, so it does take quite a while for me to process what you've said and then even longer to interpret it. If you could perhaps insert a few more full stops it might make things a little easier.

Best wishes,

Matthew

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: 28 November 2018 13:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws 18 and jaws 2018 Facebook

 

Hello Is there anyone can helped me?If not then I don’t understand you all can helps other unless you all doesn’t understand me and not much experience on computer stuff and have not had much computer training . If I defend anyone feeling I’m sorry !!

Addison

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 12:33 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws 18 and jaws 2018 Facebook

 

Hello All  Is jaws accessible to read on www.facebook.com  ? I have been using m.facebook.com  website  I’m having problem not receiving notifications page with the people who’s I’m following and like theirs page to receive theirs post on notification on m.facebook.com  I was wonder if I need to go to regular facebook website. I noticed on yesterday I went on lite.facebook.com website and heard some of the people that I’m follow is there but when I press enter on it jaws is little behave acts on the page. I really need some help here because I can’t use my mobile phone with hearing impairment not able to hear voiceover loud enough to understandit. I have desktop and laptop computer.

Addison

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Matthew Horspool
 

Hi Brian,

Yes. Usually it is a match on the program executable. In some cases they used to match on DLLs, e.g. Internet Explorer settings were under browseui rather than iexplore. I'm not sure why this is or how to achieve it in custom scripts.

In JAWS 5.0 they introduced a file called ConfigNames.ini. This maps executable names to more human readable config basenames, which is why Internet Explorer is now under Internet Explorer. A later addition to that file allowed JAWS to load different configs based on the version of the file it found. This is how, I suspect, JAWS knows to load Word Classic vs Word 365 even though the EXE in both cases is winword.exe.

Hope this helps,

Matthew

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 28 November 2018 15:14
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

 

On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 09:00 AM, JM Casey wrote:

The scripts would be loaded at program startup, I believe, not JAWS startup. I think it’s quite picky about it as well; in order for the scripts to load automatically they have to share the same name as the programme’s main executable.

Even with my limited knowledge I do know that your statement about a script loading when a program starts up is correct.  I had always wondered what the mechanism was for JAWS to be able to associate a script with a program, and based on what I saw yesterday your statement regarding a match between the JSS file prefix and the EXE file prefix makes perfect sense.  I'm sure someone else can verify.

I'm not the moderator, but I certainly hope this conversation will be permitted to continue.  There can be nothing more JAWS specific than how to tailor it to work with third party programs for which the existing JAWS configuration, sans scripts, simply does not work.  Even the casual JAWS user benefits by having some idea of the mechanisms needed to make certain "not off the shelf" programs accessible (or more accessible), even if they can't actually write scripts themselves.
 
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Any Updated Research Developer material

Dennis Brown
 

 


Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Mario
 

Matthew, yes, it's the restructuring of settings that's confusing me.
do you know if there is any documentation that details all that has been
done? I don't want to get too deep all at once, first understand what's
been done to try to understand the restructured behavior, especially for
the default scripts and when using scripts written by someone else.

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From: Matthew Horspool [mailto:mhorspool@...]
Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2018 9:17 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?

Hi Mario,

Ah, yes, I see. It's been quite a while since I've done any significant
tinkering under the hood. I do know that some restructuring of settings
went on not so long ago but I don't know the details. You could probably
work them out, though, just by having a browse through your user
settings folder and, if that fails, the shared settings folder.

Is this the extent of your trouble or are there more serious issues
going on? I would say it should be OK to continue this thread on list as
there may be others with this problem, but if a mod feels differently I
will go with that.

Matthew





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Sent: 28 November 2018 13:47
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?



in regard to #2, that's what I want to understand. I am trying to figure
out how to implement the scripting method I developed for previous
versions of JAWS since version 11. now with 2018 and probably above, it
seems FS has changed how things are done in scripting. can someone help
if I email you offlist to explain further?







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From: Matthew Horspool [mailto:mhorspool@...]

Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2018 3:03 AM EST

To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?



Hi,



A few points to answer here:



1. To compile a script: as others have said, CTRL+S is the magic
keystroke. However, you need to be in the script manager to do this! To
get to the Script Manager, press JAWSKey+0. If you do this from within
the application for which the script was written and a JSS file for that
application is present in the user's settings directory, the correct
file should be loaded automatically. Simply ALT+F4 out of the Script
Manager after you receive the compiler success message.

2. Usually, the JSB (JAWS Script Binary) ends up in the same
place as the JSS (JAWS Script Source). The same does not always apply,
however, for JSD (JAWS Script Documentation), JSH (JAWS Script Header),
JSM (JAWS Script Messages), JKM (JAWS Key Map), JCF (JAWS Configuration
File), JDF (JAWS Dictionary File) and so on. This is because a file only
ends up in the user's settings directory if it is changed from the
default or otherwise put there. Usually a new JSB is created because the
JSS has been modified, so both files end up in the user directory even
when modifying stock scripts. However, if you are only modifying
existing scripts and the documentation, keymap, etc has not required an
update, the JSD file may never make it across.

3. Save without compile is useful if something has gone wrong in
your code which is causing the compiler to throw an error and you can't
figure out what. In such a case, you may wish to sleep on the problem
and come back to it next day.



HTH,



Matthew







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So, why would you save with out compiling?



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Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts - Are they interpreted or compiled?











to compile a jaws script, you must have the



script file loaded and you simply save the script



with any changes with ctrl plus s. to save



without compiling you use ctrl plus w. hope this helps.











Legend has it that on Tuesday 11/27/2018 05:21 PM, Brian Vogel said:



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If anyone can point me to the instructions with



regard to compiling JAWS scripts I would



appreciate it. I have never found the



scripting documentation that I know of to be particularly useful.--







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all time; there is always a well-known solution



to every human problem - neat, plausible, andd wrong.







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