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Re: JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word not working properly together

 

Is it because of NVDA that you always put replies at the end of a message? I rarely ever read your messages because I typically don't feel like going through all the previous messages in the thread to see where you started writing.

Also, and just to point out that I'm deliberately sarcastic here, if NVDA never fails why are you on a Jaws list?

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 9:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word not working properly together

 

 


On Nov 17, 2018, at 12:35 PM, Mário Navarro <mario.gnv@...> wrote:

 

hi.

 


Absolutely right!

A piece of crap...

 

More and more confusion of installations that do not work and always with system issues support.

Sorry but I have to say:
Nvda never fails.
cheers.

 

Às 15:10 de 17/11/2018, Richard Turner escreveu:

In my very humble but opinionated opinion, Jaws 2019 is buggy as hell.  I’ve gone back to using 2018 and will wait for the update to 2019 to see if they fix anything.

I’ve mentioned some of the issues I’ve had on this list, so won’t waste anyones time rehashing them.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 7:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word not working properly together
Importance: High

 

Hello all,

     Just now, I found that JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word won’t work together nicely in some aspects. When I’m reading a document, of my own making, JAWS misses some words at times and repeats others—almost as if it’s wrapping up a few phrases/words. I have the document maximized when I’m reading with “say all.” Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening? It doesn’t happen with JAWS 2018 as I’ve checked.

Thank you,

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



-- 
A acção pode nem sempre ser felicidade, mas não há felicidade sem acção...

The new upgrade either going to be in early DECEMBER or first week of January. 

This year Freedom or Vispero™ will add new feature to their Jaws or ZT along with the update instead of adding new feature during SMA release. 

 


Re: Excel 2016 and JAWS 2019 Always Crashing on Exit

 

Exactly, this happened a lot or maybe I should say it happened almost always in Windows 7 but it's not an issue in Windows 10. That is why I asked if this was Windows 7 or Windows 10. Windows 10 almost never crashes and Jaws 2018 and Jaws 2019 crash very rarely. Of course there is the little problem that in Windows 10 there are a number of other accessibility issues including greatly reduced usefulness of the Jaws cursor, but strictly when it comes to how stabil it is I have no complaints.

I wouldn't hold my breath that anything will change with respect to this issue of Jaws/Excel in Windows 7 given that Windows 7 is very much on the backburner these days.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 10:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 and JAWS 2019 Always Crashing on Exit

 

Haven’t noticed with windows 10. 

 


On Nov 17, 2018, at 11:58, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:

I am using Windows 7 Pro 64 bit.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 and JAWS 2019 Always Crashing on Exit

 

Do you use Windows 7 or Windows 10?

This used to happen a lot to me under Windows 7, Windows 10 rarely ever crashes any more and Jaws under Windows 10 while offering reduced accessibility for many legacy applications I use rarely ever crashes, either.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:39 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Excel 2016 and JAWS 2019 Always Crashing on Exit

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 with Excel 2016.  Every time I exit Excel (alt+F4) after saving my workbook (Controls), both Excel and JAWS crash.  I do not know which crashes first, if that matters.  JAWS automatically restarts.  Excel comes up with the dialogue box saying that the program has stopped working and asks me if I would like to restart the program.

 

Has anyone else experienced this?

 

Thanks,

Richard


Re: retaining old copy of jaws

 

Well, I for one have few issues with Jaws 2019. I am on the private beta list as well and even found that throughout the beta cycle and before the first public beta came out Jaws 2019 worked quite well. Yes, for a while there was no automatic feedback in the Windows 10 Calculator and there were of course some other issues, but I have already removed Jaws 2018 from most of my computers.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 8:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: retaining old copy of jaws

Well, many people's experience with Jaws 2019 seems to confirm this quite clearly.
This is one of the many things about these huge conglomerates buying up companies and insisting on deadlines for new releases that truly ticks me off. They could not care less about their customers. Atleast they recognize it is a good idea to keep a previous working version around.
We no longer have any real competition in the screen reader market, so they don't have to be concerned. Too many jobs now depend on Jaws scripts so one cannot easily switch to NVDA or Dolphin and be productive, though I'm not sure how productive people can be when they have to spend so much time dealing with buggy new releases only to have to go back to the previous release to get anything done.

I'm done complaining for today.

Richard


“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 8:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: retaining old copy of jaws

I guess being a newbee with Jaws I was quite surprised when I was told by Jaws support that it was a good idea to keep a earlier version of Jaws when installing the newest version as the new version may have issues. I know that is always a possibility with new releases but they made it seem that new releases of Jaws were always quite buggy.


Re: having trouble installing a program

netbat66
 

are you running the setup as administrator?
have you tried re downloading the program and installing it again?
maybe the file is corrupted.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jed Barton
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 6:00 PM
To: main
Subject: having trouble installing a program

Hey guys,

Man, i just can't win. Trying to install m3 direct cut. I can't even
get through the install. It keeps telling me that it can't creatte
the path specified. It keeps saying access is denied. I'm excepting
the default of program files (x86), and then it creates a folder. Any
ideas?


Re: a big cursor problem

Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
 

nothing is obvious here, and from what i can tell it looks the same.

On 11/18/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
Can you compare your JAWS quick settings (insert+v)
setting-by-setting to be sure everything is set the same way on both
computers?
At 08:06 PM 11/18/2018, you wrote:
Nope, it's not the touch pad, cause i'm using an external keyboard.
Any other ideas, this just doesn't make any sense. Could it be a
repair issue?
Nothing is obvious at all. The window is maximized as well.

On 11/18/18, Tim Ford <ttford@...> wrote:
This may be a long shot, but if your new laptop has a touchpad, you may
be
grazing it when you do that keystroke combination. This happened to me
until I turned off the touchpad.





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
B.
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: a big cursor problem



Hi Jed,



Did you make sure that the window is maximized?

Take care. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of
spending a lot
of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking
for where I
saved it!

----- Original Message -----

From: Jed Barton <mailto:jedbarton@...>

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 2:24 PM

Subject: Re: a big cursor problem



this issue is driving me crazy. It baffles me why this is even
happening. This program has worked flawlessly for years, and now
since i switched laptops, running the same program, and jaws, why when
i do this particular action, the cursor just by some sort of magic,
moves up several spaces. It makes no sense to me. Bottom line, i
need to get this working. If anyone has any ideas, that would be
enormously helpful Like i said, it just makes no sense, why when i
route jaws to PC, the cursor would just move up a few spaces, and
highlight the wrong item. is there any way to do some sort of jaws
repair?

On 11/18/18, Jed Barton <jedbarton@...> wrote:
i don't even know how to navigate with narrator cause i literally
never
use
it.
1 of the things i need to get to, when i open up this program, there
are a bunch of tabs across the top. In order to get to them, i use to
route jaws to PC, then go around and find them. i was gonna do it
with n v d a, but don't even know if nvda has another cursor cause i
hardly use it. trying to figure out whether it's a jaws problem, or a
windows problem. It's driving me crazy.

On 11/18/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
Try it with Narrator. That isn't the answer, but might be a short
term solution.
At 02:46 PM 11/18/2018, you wrote:
Hey guys,

OK, i'm having a very strange problem, that i need some help with.
Noone can seem to come up with the anser, but it's driving me crazy.
I use a program to program radios called contact manager. The long
and short of it is, i have to add channels to a particular zone in
the
radio. I can access the zones and the channels. I can get to the
zone in the radio, and access the channels that i need to add. The
way i did it in the past on my old laptop, i go to the channel that i
want to add, route jaws to pc, and do a right mouse click. Now when
i
route the jaws to PC, if you're looking at it visually on the screen,
the cursor jumps up several places on the screen and as a result it
highlights the wrong channel. This never use to happen on my other
laptop. I'm running the same version of the software as well as the
same version of jaws on both machines, both running win 10. I can't
think of anything that would make this happen.
Today, we shut down jaws, and i had someone just do a right mouse
click on the right channel, and the cursor didn't jump up several
places, it highlighted the correct channel. Any ideas here guys?

Thanks,
Jed

















Re: a big cursor problem

Ann Byrne
 

Can you compare your JAWS quick settings (insert+v) setting-by-setting to be sure everything is set the same way on both computers?

At 08:06 PM 11/18/2018, you wrote:
Nope, it's not the touch pad, cause i'm using an external keyboard.
Any other ideas, this just doesn't make any sense. Could it be a
repair issue?
Nothing is obvious at all. The window is maximized as well.

On 11/18/18, Tim Ford <ttford@...> wrote:
This may be a long shot, but if your new laptop has a touchpad, you may be
grazing it when you do that keystroke combination. This happened to me
until I turned off the touchpad.





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: a big cursor problem



Hi Jed,



Did you make sure that the window is maximized?

Take care. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of
spending a lot
of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking
for where I
saved it!

----- Original Message -----

From: Jed Barton <mailto:jedbarton@...>

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 2:24 PM

Subject: Re: a big cursor problem



this issue is driving me crazy. It baffles me why this is even
happening. This program has worked flawlessly for years, and now
since i switched laptops, running the same program, and jaws, why when
i do this particular action, the cursor just by some sort of magic,
moves up several spaces. It makes no sense to me. Bottom line, i
need to get this working. If anyone has any ideas, that would be
enormously helpful Like i said, it just makes no sense, why when i
route jaws to PC, the cursor would just move up a few spaces, and
highlight the wrong item. is there any way to do some sort of jaws
repair?

On 11/18/18, Jed Barton <jedbarton@...> wrote:
i don't even know how to navigate with narrator cause i literally never
use
it.
1 of the things i need to get to, when i open up this program, there
are a bunch of tabs across the top. In order to get to them, i use to
route jaws to PC, then go around and find them. i was gonna do it
with n v d a, but don't even know if nvda has another cursor cause i
hardly use it. trying to figure out whether it's a jaws problem, or a
windows problem. It's driving me crazy.

On 11/18/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
Try it with Narrator. That isn't the answer, but might be a short
term solution.
At 02:46 PM 11/18/2018, you wrote:
Hey guys,

OK, i'm having a very strange problem, that i need some help with.
Noone can seem to come up with the anser, but it's driving me crazy.
I use a program to program radios called contact manager. The long
and short of it is, i have to add channels to a particular zone in the
radio. I can access the zones and the channels. I can get to the
zone in the radio, and access the channels that i need to add. The
way i did it in the past on my old laptop, i go to the channel that i
want to add, route jaws to pc, and do a right mouse click. Now when i
route the jaws to PC, if you're looking at it visually on the screen,
the cursor jumps up several places on the screen and as a result it
highlights the wrong channel. This never use to happen on my other
laptop. I'm running the same version of the software as well as the
same version of jaws on both machines, both running win 10. I can't
think of anything that would make this happen.
Today, we shut down jaws, and i had someone just do a right mouse
click on the right channel, and the cursor didn't jump up several
places, it highlighted the correct channel. Any ideas here guys?

Thanks,
Jed














Re: a big cursor problem

Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
 

Nope, it's not the touch pad, cause i'm using an external keyboard.
Any other ideas, this just doesn't make any sense. Could it be a
repair issue?
Nothing is obvious at all. The window is maximized as well.

On 11/18/18, Tim Ford <ttford@...> wrote:
This may be a long shot, but if your new laptop has a touchpad, you may be
grazing it when you do that keystroke combination. This happened to me
until I turned off the touchpad.





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: a big cursor problem



Hi Jed,



Did you make sure that the window is maximized?

Take care. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot
of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I
saved it!

----- Original Message -----

From: Jed Barton <mailto:jedbarton@...>

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 2:24 PM

Subject: Re: a big cursor problem



this issue is driving me crazy. It baffles me why this is even
happening. This program has worked flawlessly for years, and now
since i switched laptops, running the same program, and jaws, why when
i do this particular action, the cursor just by some sort of magic,
moves up several spaces. It makes no sense to me. Bottom line, i
need to get this working. If anyone has any ideas, that would be
enormously helpful Like i said, it just makes no sense, why when i
route jaws to PC, the cursor would just move up a few spaces, and
highlight the wrong item. is there any way to do some sort of jaws
repair?

On 11/18/18, Jed Barton <jedbarton@...> wrote:
i don't even know how to navigate with narrator cause i literally never
use
it.
1 of the things i need to get to, when i open up this program, there
are a bunch of tabs across the top. In order to get to them, i use to
route jaws to PC, then go around and find them. i was gonna do it
with n v d a, but don't even know if nvda has another cursor cause i
hardly use it. trying to figure out whether it's a jaws problem, or a
windows problem. It's driving me crazy.

On 11/18/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
Try it with Narrator. That isn't the answer, but might be a short
term solution.
At 02:46 PM 11/18/2018, you wrote:
Hey guys,

OK, i'm having a very strange problem, that i need some help with.
Noone can seem to come up with the anser, but it's driving me crazy.
I use a program to program radios called contact manager. The long
and short of it is, i have to add channels to a particular zone in the
radio. I can access the zones and the channels. I can get to the
zone in the radio, and access the channels that i need to add. The
way i did it in the past on my old laptop, i go to the channel that i
want to add, route jaws to pc, and do a right mouse click. Now when i
route the jaws to PC, if you're looking at it visually on the screen,
the cursor jumps up several places on the screen and as a result it
highlights the wrong channel. This never use to happen on my other
laptop. I'm running the same version of the software as well as the
same version of jaws on both machines, both running win 10. I can't
think of anything that would make this happen.
Today, we shut down jaws, and i had someone just do a right mouse
click on the right channel, and the cursor didn't jump up several
places, it highlighted the correct channel. Any ideas here guys?

Thanks,
Jed














having trouble installing a program

Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
 

Hey guys,

Man, i just can't win. Trying to install m3 direct cut. I can't even
get through the install. It keeps telling me that it can't creatte
the path specified. It keeps saying access is denied. I'm excepting
the default of program files (x86), and then it creates a folder. Any
ideas?


Re: update problem with jaws 18 and display

Bill White
 

Hi, Sharon.

 

1. Locate the JAWS setup package you used to install the last update to JAWS 18.

2. This may involve going to the Freedom Scientific website and downloading the latest version of JAWS 18.

3. This is located in Downloads>JAWS>Previous versions of JAWS.

4. Put this installation file in the root of drive C.

5. Press the Windows Key with the R key to call up the “run” dialogue.

6. In this Run dialog, type the complete name of the JAWS Installation file: for example

 

C:\ J18.0.5038.400-enu-x64.exe /type repair

 

The name of your installation file may be a little different.

 

After typing this, press the ENTER key. JAWS will begin repairing itself.

 

If you need further help, you may call me at

 

714-835-6295, and I will walk you through the repair process.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharon Klug
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 12:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: update problem with jaws 18 and display

 

Hello everyone:

I need help with a jaws problem. I did the update yesterday for jaws 18 on a 64 bit machine. After installation and even after rebooting I get the following message.

The Freedom Scientific Accessibility display driver is not properly installed. Please reboot the computer if you have not done so already. If this does not fix the issue, please run a repair on the JAWS installation to reinstall the display driver.

To perform a repair, run the JAWS setup package with the command-line arguments "/Type Repair".
OK

I don't understand how to do what the message tells me to do. I hope someone can help me and, if so, thanks in advance.
Sharon


Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This Release

Flor Lynch
 

Mario,

Unless FS can come up with a specific solution; Unfortunately, and FS might recommend this if they don't come up with one; you may need to uninstall all previous versions of JAWS to resolve the issue. (It could even relate to Microsoft.net Framework version incompatibilities. I ran into an issue like that before, where an install wouldn't complete. However at the time I also had underlying braille display problems, so getting the display repaired/replaced was my main priority.) Maybe Microsoft Accessibility could help more directly, as was suggested earlier.)

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 3:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This Release

yes, I have uninstalled 2018 without removing shared components because
I also have a previous version of JAWS installed (16) for those "just in
case" moments.
.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:@Sieghard]
Sent: Sat, Nov 17, 2018 9:37 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This Release

Have you tried to uninstall Jaws 2018, first by leaving shared
components and user settings and then tried to reinstall?
I assume you don't yet have Jaws 2019?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release

I have, twice. no

-------- Original Message --------
From: Al [mailto:iamcardman@...]
Sent: Fri, Nov 16, 2018 7:19 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This Release

Redownload it...

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release

after downloading the installer appropriate for my installation of Windows,
I start the installation, but after 31%, the message that "the installation
failed" is announced. what do I do now?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B. [mailto:mike9902@...]
Sent: Fri, Nov 16, 2018 2:06 PM EST
To: JFW List
Subject: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This Release

Hi All,

Below are the download links for this new build, .1811.2, plus what's new
in this release.

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/181102ASEWI/J2018.1811.2.400-enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/181102ASEWI/J2018.1811.2.400-enu-x64.exe

What's new in this release:

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1811.2 (November 2018)

The following is a list of improvements made in JAWS 2018 between the
August
2018 update and the November 2018 update.

list of 7 items
. Resolved an issue with JAWS double speaking links in PDF documents.
. The changes made in JAWS 2019 to address Audio Ducking issues with the
latest Windows 10 updates are now also available in JAWS 2018.
. Resolved an issue where lines were sometimes repeated when using braille
panning in some applications.
. When reading using Say All (INSERT+DOWN ARROW) in the Amazon Kindle app,
addressed an issue where JAWS would unexpectedly stop reading after a few
pages.
. Resolved an issue where Firefox would become unresponsive when navigating
certain web pages with JAWS.
. In Chrome, resolved an issue where JAWS was not reading as expected in
Google Sheets if Braille Mode was turned off.
. Added support for Google Slides film strip tree views.
list end

Take care. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a
lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for
where I saved it!












.


question about best practices for note-taking and retreival

Amy Bower
 

Hi - In my new job, I attend tons of meetings, have to take loads of notes, and from those notes, keep an active list of action items. There are many topics to keep track of, and when it gets real busy, I can lose track of everything on my plate. Wondering how other professionals deal with this kind of working situation. What I do now is keep several MS Word documents as notebooks. Each time I attend a meeting, I open the appropriate Word file, enter a new heading (easy to search for later with navigation quick keys) and then start taking notes. If something comes up that I need to get onto my to-do list, I put 3 asterisks there so I can search quickly for those items later, and transfer them to my to-do list. I'm finding though that when it gets busy, I don't always go back to the Word file and pull those to-do items out and add them to my task list (in Outlook).
I messed around this afternoon with OneNote, but didn't find it very user friendly with Jaws. Maybe I just don't know how to use it well. I've used it in the past with the OneNote Blind scripts, but found them problematic after a while and switched to the Word file notebook system above.
Any other apps or ideas for doing this kind of work with Jaws? Needs to be efficient and easy to learn.
Thanks.
-Amy


update problem with jaws 18 and display

Sharon Klug <sharonklug9304@...>
 

Hello everyone:

I need help with a jaws problem. I did the update yesterday for jaws 18 on a 64 bit machine. After installation and even after rebooting I get the following message.

The Freedom Scientific Accessibility display driver is not properly installed. Please reboot the computer if you have not done so already. If this does not fix the issue, please run a repair on the JAWS installation to reinstall the display driver.

To perform a repair, run the JAWS setup package with the command-line arguments "/Type Repair".
OK

I don't understand how to do what the message tells me to do. I hope someone can help me and, if so, thanks in advance.
Sharon


Re: a big cursor problem

Tim Ford
 

This may be a long shot, but if your new laptop has a touchpad, you may be grazing it when you do that keystroke combination.  This happened to me until I turned off the touchpad.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: a big cursor problem

 

Hi Jed,

 

Did you make sure that the window is maximized?

Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!

----- Original Message -----

From: Jed Barton

Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 2:24 PM

Subject: Re: a big cursor problem

 

this issue is driving me crazy.  It baffles me why this is even
happening.  This program has worked flawlessly for years, and now
since i switched laptops, running the same program, and jaws, why when
i do this particular action, the cursor just by some sort of magic,
moves up several spaces.  It makes no sense to me.  Bottom line, i
need to get this working.  If anyone has any ideas, that would be
enormously helpful  Like i said, it just makes no sense, why when i
route jaws to PC, the cursor would just move up a few spaces, and
highlight the wrong item.  is there any way to do some sort of jaws
repair?

On 11/18/18, Jed Barton <jedbarton@...> wrote:
> i don't even know how to navigate with narrator cause i literally never use
> it.
> 1 of the things i need to get to, when i open up this program, there
> are a bunch of tabs across the top.  In order to get to them, i use to
> route jaws to PC, then go around and find them.  i was gonna do it
> with n v d a, but don't even know if nvda has another cursor cause i
> hardly use it.  trying to figure out whether it's a jaws problem, or a
> windows problem.  It's driving me crazy.
>
> On 11/18/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
>> Try it with Narrator.  That isn't the answer, but might be a short
>> term solution.
>> At 02:46 PM 11/18/2018, you wrote:
>>>Hey guys,
>>>
>>>OK, i'm having a very strange problem, that i need some help with.
>>>Noone can seem to come up with the anser, but it's driving me crazy.
>>>I use a program to program radios called contact manager.  The long
>>>and short of it is, i have to add channels to a particular zone in the
>>>radio.  I can access the zones and the channels.  I can get to the
>>>zone in the radio, and access the channels that i need to add.  The
>>>way i did it in the past on my old laptop, i go to the channel that i
>>>want to add, route jaws to pc, and do a right mouse click.  Now when i
>>>route the jaws to PC, if you're looking at it visually on the screen,
>>>the cursor jumps up several places on the screen and as a result it
>>>highlights the wrong channel.  This never use to happen on my other
>>>laptop. I'm running the same version of the software as well as the
>>>same version  of jaws on both machines, both running win 10.  I can't
>>>think of anything that would make this happen.
>>>Today, we shut down jaws, and i had someone just do a right mouse
>>>click on the right channel, and the cursor didn't jump up several
>>>places, it highlighted the correct channel.  Any ideas here guys?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Jed
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This Release

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi Mario,
 
Backup your ENU folder if you're going to delete everything.  You could also export your settings as well.
Take care.  Go Rams!
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----- Original Message -----
From: empacc.net
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This Release

    hi:

oh, I see!!

what you should do is uninstall jaws 2018 first and reinstall it.

of course, if you have another jaws version or nvda use that to delete the
folder for jaws 2018 before reinstalling it.

you don't want to delete that folder while using same version while running
it.

reinstalling jaws 2018 will recreate the folder and put all necessary files
back.

so, after reinstalling jaws 2018 if you go back into the app data folder
freedom scientific jaws folder you see another jaws 2018 folder in there.

deleting this will not remove your jaws key or any shared folder for other
versions of jaws.

when uninstalling, you don't want to remove those unless jaws 2018 is the
only version you have.

then it's okay to delete everything and start from scratch.




Howard Wolcott
-----Original Message-----
From: Mario
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release

Howard, will it damage the version of 2018 I currently have installed?



-------- Original Message --------
From: empacc.net [mailto:hwolcott@...]
Sent: Sun, Nov 18, 2018 3:12 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This Release

      hi:

no-one has mentioned this so I will put this out there.

have you gone into your app data folder and under the freedom scientific
you will find a jaws folder.

enter and you will find folders which correspond to the versions of jaws
you have on your computer.

one of those will be jaws2018.

delete that one and then try to install again.

you won’t lose anything by doing this.

I’m thinking the 2018 folder may have been corrupted somehow.



Howard Wolcott

From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 2:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release

Hi Mario,

It shouldn't be, but then again you never know what little thing can
screw things up!  LOL
Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a
lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for
where I saved it!
----- Original Message -----
From: Mario
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release

I noticed that I do not have any activation keys left. would this be my
problem? I wouldn't think so since it is an update within 2018.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B. [mailto:mike9902@...]
Sent: Sat, Nov 17, 2018 1:32 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This Release

Hi Mario,

I did a search using this as my search term:  JAWS error code, 8070643

Below is one of the search results.  I don't know if this will help but, it
seems that activation problems are pointed at more often than anything else
for this error code.

https://fsactivate.freedomscientific.com/Activation/ILMTroubleShootingGuide

Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot
of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I
saved it!
----- Original Message -----
From: Mario
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release


I always have installed from the offline installer, and this time is no
different. I even redownloaded it twice but it always stops at 31% with
an "installation failed" message. and yes, the installer matches the
operating system I have(64 bit JAWS for a 64 bit Windows OS).



-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@...]
Sent: Fri, Nov 16, 2018 9:39 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This Release

My experience has been that if the update doesn't install, I can
download the full version from the web site and that install will work.
I sometimes get a message telling me to run a JAWS repair when the
update doesn't work. I have done that, but it doesn't help. So I just
go download the whole stinkin' thing.
At 07:52 PM 11/16/2018, you wrote:
Hi Mario,

Tell them that installing J2019 isn't fixing the J2018 update issue
so, how about we just fix the current problem so you can use J2018.
Take care. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending
a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking
for where I saved it!
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:mrb620@...>Mario
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In
This Release

no error code, just the message "31%. the installation failed".
I'll call them Monday.
hope I get someone who will help and not just say to try to install 2019.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B. [mailto:mike9902@...]
Sent: Fri, Nov 16, 2018 6:25 PM EST
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release

Hi Mario,

I don't have a clue! Maybe call FS tech support. Are you getting any
error
codes / messages? I just updated 4 computers, 2 Windows 10 and 2
Windows 7
without a problem.
Take care. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending
a lot
of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for
where I
saved it!
----- Original Message -----
From: Mario
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release


after downloading the installer appropriate for my installation of
Windows, I start the installation, but after 31%, the message that "the
installation failed" is announced. what do I do now?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B. [mailto:mike9902@...]
Sent: Fri, Nov 16, 2018 2:06 PM EST
To: JFW List
Subject: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release

Hi All,

Below are the download links for this new build, .1811.2, plus what's
new in
this release.

32 Bit:

<http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/181102ASEWI/J2018.1811.2.400-enu-x86.exe>http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/181102ASEWI/J2018.1811.2.400-enu-x86.exe



64 Bit:

<http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/181102ASEWI/J2018.1811.2.400-enu-x64.exe>http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/181102ASEWI/J2018.1811.2.400-enu-x64.exe



What's new in this release:

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1811.2 (November 2018)

The following is a list of improvements made in JAWS 2018 between the
August
2018 update and the November 2018 update.

list of 7 items
. Resolved an issue with JAWS double speaking links in PDF documents.
. The changes made in JAWS 2019 to address Audio Ducking issues with the
latest Windows 10 updates are now also available in JAWS 2018.
. Resolved an issue where lines were sometimes repeated when using
braille
panning in some applications.
. When reading using Say All (INSERT+DOWN ARROW) in the Amazon Kindle
app,
addressed an issue where JAWS would unexpectedly stop reading after a few
pages.
. Resolved an issue where Firefox would become unresponsive when
navigating
certain web pages with JAWS.
. In Chrome, resolved an issue where JAWS was not reading as expected in
Google Sheets if Braille Mode was turned off.
. Added support for Google Slides film strip tree views.
list end

Take care. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending
a lot
of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for
where I
saved it!



















.

























Re: a big cursor problem

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi Jed,
 
Did you make sure that the window is maximized?
Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!

----- Original Message -----
From: Jed Barton
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: a big cursor problem

this issue is driving me crazy.  It baffles me why this is even
happening.  This program has worked flawlessly for years, and now
since i switched laptops, running the same program, and jaws, why when
i do this particular action, the cursor just by some sort of magic,
moves up several spaces.  It makes no sense to me.  Bottom line, i
need to get this working.  If anyone has any ideas, that would be
enormously helpful  Like i said, it just makes no sense, why when i
route jaws to PC, the cursor would just move up a few spaces, and
highlight the wrong item.  is there any way to do some sort of jaws
repair?

On 11/18/18, Jed Barton <jedbarton@...> wrote:
> i don't even know how to navigate with narrator cause i literally never use
> it.
> 1 of the things i need to get to, when i open up this program, there
> are a bunch of tabs across the top.  In order to get to them, i use to
> route jaws to PC, then go around and find them.  i was gonna do it
> with n v d a, but don't even know if nvda has another cursor cause i
> hardly use it.  trying to figure out whether it's a jaws problem, or a
> windows problem.  It's driving me crazy.
>
> On 11/18/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
>> Try it with Narrator.  That isn't the answer, but might be a short
>> term solution.
>> At 02:46 PM 11/18/2018, you wrote:
>>>Hey guys,
>>>
>>>OK, i'm having a very strange problem, that i need some help with.
>>>Noone can seem to come up with the anser, but it's driving me crazy.
>>>I use a program to program radios called contact manager.  The long
>>>and short of it is, i have to add channels to a particular zone in the
>>>radio.  I can access the zones and the channels.  I can get to the
>>>zone in the radio, and access the channels that i need to add.  The
>>>way i did it in the past on my old laptop, i go to the channel that i
>>>want to add, route jaws to pc, and do a right mouse click.  Now when i
>>>route the jaws to PC, if you're looking at it visually on the screen,
>>>the cursor jumps up several places on the screen and as a result it
>>>highlights the wrong channel.  This never use to happen on my other
>>>laptop. I'm running the same version of the software as well as the
>>>same version  of jaws on both machines, both running win 10.  I can't
>>>think of anything that would make this happen.
>>>Today, we shut down jaws, and i had someone just do a right mouse
>>>click on the right channel, and the cursor didn't jump up several
>>>places, it highlighted the correct channel.  Any ideas here guys?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Jed
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>



Re: a big cursor problem

Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
 

this issue is driving me crazy. It baffles me why this is even
happening. This program has worked flawlessly for years, and now
since i switched laptops, running the same program, and jaws, why when
i do this particular action, the cursor just by some sort of magic,
moves up several spaces. It makes no sense to me. Bottom line, i
need to get this working. If anyone has any ideas, that would be
enormously helpful Like i said, it just makes no sense, why when i
route jaws to PC, the cursor would just move up a few spaces, and
highlight the wrong item. is there any way to do some sort of jaws
repair?

On 11/18/18, Jed Barton <jedbarton@...> wrote:
i don't even know how to navigate with narrator cause i literally never use
it.
1 of the things i need to get to, when i open up this program, there
are a bunch of tabs across the top. In order to get to them, i use to
route jaws to PC, then go around and find them. i was gonna do it
with n v d a, but don't even know if nvda has another cursor cause i
hardly use it. trying to figure out whether it's a jaws problem, or a
windows problem. It's driving me crazy.

On 11/18/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
Try it with Narrator. That isn't the answer, but might be a short
term solution.
At 02:46 PM 11/18/2018, you wrote:
Hey guys,

OK, i'm having a very strange problem, that i need some help with.
Noone can seem to come up with the anser, but it's driving me crazy.
I use a program to program radios called contact manager. The long
and short of it is, i have to add channels to a particular zone in the
radio. I can access the zones and the channels. I can get to the
zone in the radio, and access the channels that i need to add. The
way i did it in the past on my old laptop, i go to the channel that i
want to add, route jaws to pc, and do a right mouse click. Now when i
route the jaws to PC, if you're looking at it visually on the screen,
the cursor jumps up several places on the screen and as a result it
highlights the wrong channel. This never use to happen on my other
laptop. I'm running the same version of the software as well as the
same version of jaws on both machines, both running win 10. I can't
think of anything that would make this happen.
Today, we shut down jaws, and i had someone just do a right mouse
click on the right channel, and the cursor didn't jump up several
places, it highlighted the correct channel. Any ideas here guys?

Thanks,
Jed







Re: Annoying new announcement in Firefox

 

Cristóbal,

          I've encountered this many times now, but not when running a screen reader.  If this is still happening for you I'd be glad to take a look via Quick Assist or Teamviewer as I'd be curious to see if there is a way to navigate the sequence via any screen reader.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

   Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.

         ~ H.L. Mencken, AKA The Sage of Baltimore


Re: How do I get to the Status Bar in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019?

Richard Turner
 

Richard,

F6 works for me too, but Word Count may not show up if it wasn’t checked after getting to the Status Bar settings with F6 and then doing shift+f10 to bring up the context menu and checking things like Word count, column, (which I find helpful as it tells you how far across the line you are, etc.

 

If you cannot get there with f6, alt+r then w will give you the word count, or it should anyway.

 

Richard T.

 

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 10:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get to the Status Bar in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019?

 

F6 works for me in current Microsoft Word for Office 365 with JAWS 2019. Alternatively, you can use Insert+Numpad-3 to read the status line.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 1:12 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How do I get to the Status Bar in MS Word 2016 with JAWS 2019?

 

Hi!

 

I seem to remember that pressing F6 would cycle me around the ribbon, document pane, status bar and so on.  Now, when I press F6 all I hear is “document pane.”  I want to get to the status bar so I can check on some statistics (e.g., number of words) in my document.  How do I get there?

 

Thanks,

Richard


Re: a big cursor problem

Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
 

i don't even know how to navigate with narrator cause i literally never use it.
1 of the things i need to get to, when i open up this program, there
are a bunch of tabs across the top. In order to get to them, i use to
route jaws to PC, then go around and find them. i was gonna do it
with n v d a, but don't even know if nvda has another cursor cause i
hardly use it. trying to figure out whether it's a jaws problem, or a
windows problem. It's driving me crazy.

On 11/18/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@...> wrote:
Try it with Narrator. That isn't the answer, but might be a short
term solution.
At 02:46 PM 11/18/2018, you wrote:
Hey guys,

OK, i'm having a very strange problem, that i need some help with.
Noone can seem to come up with the anser, but it's driving me crazy.
I use a program to program radios called contact manager. The long
and short of it is, i have to add channels to a particular zone in the
radio. I can access the zones and the channels. I can get to the
zone in the radio, and access the channels that i need to add. The
way i did it in the past on my old laptop, i go to the channel that i
want to add, route jaws to pc, and do a right mouse click. Now when i
route the jaws to PC, if you're looking at it visually on the screen,
the cursor jumps up several places on the screen and as a result it
highlights the wrong channel. This never use to happen on my other
laptop. I'm running the same version of the software as well as the
same version of jaws on both machines, both running win 10. I can't
think of anything that would make this happen.
Today, we shut down jaws, and i had someone just do a right mouse
click on the right channel, and the cursor didn't jump up several
places, it highlighted the correct channel. Any ideas here guys?

Thanks,
Jed





Re: a big cursor problem

Ann Byrne
 

Try it with Narrator. That isn't the answer, but might be a short term solution.

At 02:46 PM 11/18/2018, you wrote:
Hey guys,

OK, i'm having a very strange problem, that i need some help with.
Noone can seem to come up with the anser, but it's driving me crazy.
I use a program to program radios called contact manager. The long
and short of it is, i have to add channels to a particular zone in the
radio. I can access the zones and the channels. I can get to the
zone in the radio, and access the channels that i need to add. The
way i did it in the past on my old laptop, i go to the channel that i
want to add, route jaws to pc, and do a right mouse click. Now when i
route the jaws to PC, if you're looking at it visually on the screen,
the cursor jumps up several places on the screen and as a result it
highlights the wrong channel. This never use to happen on my other
laptop. I'm running the same version of the software as well as the
same version of jaws on both machines, both running win 10. I can't
think of anything that would make this happen.
Today, we shut down jaws, and i had someone just do a right mouse
click on the right channel, and the cursor didn't jump up several
places, it highlighted the correct channel. Any ideas here guys?

Thanks,
Jed