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Re: surveying about Flexible Web use

Maria Campbell
 

No.  Never saw the need or ease of it.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~

On 11/17/2018 4:00 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I’m curious, if people use Flexible Web, where they use it.  I used it a bit when the feature was first available, but lost interest because of what I perceived to be the effort involved and the little gain.  Mostly, I was using it on newspaper sites, and with Firefox and Edge containing Reading Views, and thanks to the Mercury Reader add-on for Chrome, so does it, those browser-based features seem to obviate the need for Flexible Web.  But am I misanalyzing this? 

 

Dean

 

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

 


surveying about Flexible Web use

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

I’m curious, if people use Flexible Web, where they use it.  I used it a bit when the feature was first available, but lost interest because of what I perceived to be the effort involved and the little gain.  Mostly, I was using it on newspaper sites, and with Firefox and Edge containing Reading Views, and thanks to the Mercury Reader add-on for Chrome, so does it, those browser-based features seem to obviate the need for Flexible Web.  But am I misanalyzing this? 

 

Dean

 

Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org

 


Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This Release

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi Mario,

 

Have you tried installing it with an elevated permission. Shift 10 and run as administrator. HTH

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 1:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This Release

 

Hi Mario,

 

I did a search using this as my search term:  JAWS error code, 8070643

 

Below is one of the search results.  I don't know if this will help but, it seems that activation problems are pointed at more often than anything else for this error code.

 

 

Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!

----- Original Message -----

From: Mario

Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:22 AM

Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This Release

 

I always have installed from the offline installer, and this time is no
different. I even redownloaded it twice but it always stops at 31% with
an "installation failed" message. and yes, the installer matches the
operating system I have(64 bit JAWS for a 64 bit Windows OS).



-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@...]
Sent: Fri, Nov 16, 2018 9:39 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This Release

My experience has been that if the update doesn't install, I can
download the full version from the web site and that install will work.
I sometimes get a message telling me to run a JAWS repair when the
update doesn't work. I have done that, but it doesn't help. So I just
go download the whole stinkin' thing.
At 07:52 PM 11/16/2018, you wrote:
Hi Mario,

Tell them that installing J2019 isn't fixing the J2018 update issue
so, how about we just fix the current problem so you can use J2018.
Take care. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending
a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking
for where I saved it!
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:mrb620@...>Mario
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In
This Release

no error code, just the message "31%. the installation failed".
I'll call them Monday.
hope I get someone who will help and not just say to try to install 2019.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B. [mailto:mike9902@...]
Sent: Fri, Nov 16, 2018 6:25 PM EST
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release

Hi Mario,

I don't have a clue! Maybe call FS tech support. Are you getting any
error
codes / messages? I just updated 4 computers, 2 Windows 10 and 2
Windows 7
without a problem.
Take care. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending
a lot
of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for
where I
saved it!
----- Original Message -----
From: Mario
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release


after downloading the installer appropriate for my installation of
Windows, I start the installation, but after 31%, the message that "the
installation failed" is announced. what do I do now?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B. [mailto:mike9902@...]
Sent: Fri, Nov 16, 2018 2:06 PM EST
To: JFW List
Subject: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release

Hi All,

Below are the download links for this new build, .1811.2, plus what's
new in
this release.

32 Bit:

<http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/181102ASEWI/J2018.1811.2.400-enu-x86.exe>http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/181102ASEWI/J2018.1811.2.400-enu-x86.exe



64 Bit:

<http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/181102ASEWI/J2018.1811.2.400-enu-x64.exe>http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/181102ASEWI/J2018.1811.2.400-enu-x64.exe



What's new in this release:

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1811.2 (November 2018)

The following is a list of improvements made in JAWS 2018 between the
August
2018 update and the November 2018 update.

list of 7 items
. Resolved an issue with JAWS double speaking links in PDF documents.
. The changes made in JAWS 2019 to address Audio Ducking issues with the
latest Windows 10 updates are now also available in JAWS 2018.
. Resolved an issue where lines were sometimes repeated when using
braille
panning in some applications.
. When reading using Say All (INSERT+DOWN ARROW) in the Amazon Kindle
app,
addressed an issue where JAWS would unexpectedly stop reading after a few
pages.
. Resolved an issue where Firefox would become unresponsive when
navigating
certain web pages with JAWS.
. In Chrome, resolved an issue where JAWS was not reading as expected in
Google Sheets if Braille Mode was turned off.
. Added support for Google Slides film strip tree views.
list end

Take care. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending
a lot
of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for
where I
saved it!



















.





Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This Release

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi Mario,
 
I did a search using this as my search term:  JAWS error code, 8070643
 
Below is one of the search results.  I don't know if this will help but, it seems that activation problems are pointed at more often than anything else for this error code.
 
 
Take care.  Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for where I saved it!

----- Original Message -----
From: Mario
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:22 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This Release

I always have installed from the offline installer, and this time is no
different. I even redownloaded it twice but it always stops at 31% with
an "installation failed" message. and yes, the installer matches the
operating system I have(64 bit JAWS for a 64 bit Windows OS).



-------- Original Message --------
From: Ann Byrne [mailto:annakb@...]
Sent: Fri, Nov 16, 2018 9:39 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This Release

My experience has been that if the update doesn't install, I can
download the full version from the web site and that install will work.
I sometimes get a message telling me to run a JAWS repair when the
update doesn't work. I have done that, but it doesn't help. So I just
go download the whole stinkin' thing.
At 07:52 PM 11/16/2018, you wrote:
Hi Mario,

Tell them that installing J2019 isn't fixing the J2018 update issue
so, how about we just fix the current problem so you can use J2018.
Take care. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending
a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking
for where I saved it!
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:mrb620@...>Mario
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In
This Release

no error code, just the message "31%. the installation failed".
I'll call them Monday.
hope I get someone who will help and not just say to try to install 2019.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B. [mailto:mike9902@...]
Sent: Fri, Nov 16, 2018 6:25 PM EST
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release

Hi Mario,

I don't have a clue! Maybe call FS tech support. Are you getting any
error
codes / messages? I just updated 4 computers, 2 Windows 10 and 2
Windows 7
without a problem.
Take care. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending
a lot
of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for
where I
saved it!
----- Original Message -----
From: Mario
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release


after downloading the installer appropriate for my installation of
Windows, I start the installation, but after 31%, the message that "the
installation failed" is announced. what do I do now?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B. [mailto:mike9902@...]
Sent: Fri, Nov 16, 2018 2:06 PM EST
To: JFW List
Subject: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release

Hi All,

Below are the download links for this new build, .1811.2, plus what's
new in
this release.

32 Bit:

<http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/181102ASEWI/J2018.1811.2.400-enu-x86.exe>http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/181102ASEWI/J2018.1811.2.400-enu-x86.exe



64 Bit:

<http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/181102ASEWI/J2018.1811.2.400-enu-x64.exe>http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/181102ASEWI/J2018.1811.2.400-enu-x64.exe



What's new in this release:

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1811.2 (November 2018)

The following is a list of improvements made in JAWS 2018 between the
August
2018 update and the November 2018 update.

list of 7 items
. Resolved an issue with JAWS double speaking links in PDF documents.
. The changes made in JAWS 2019 to address Audio Ducking issues with the
latest Windows 10 updates are now also available in JAWS 2018.
. Resolved an issue where lines were sometimes repeated when using
braille
panning in some applications.
. When reading using Say All (INSERT+DOWN ARROW) in the Amazon Kindle
app,
addressed an issue where JAWS would unexpectedly stop reading after a few
pages.
. Resolved an issue where Firefox would become unresponsive when
navigating
certain web pages with JAWS.
. In Chrome, resolved an issue where JAWS was not reading as expected in
Google Sheets if Braille Mode was turned off.
. Added support for Google Slides film strip tree views.
list end

Take care. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending
a lot
of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking for
where I
saved it!



















.






Re: Excel 2016 and JAWS 2019 Always Crashing on Exit

Chris Hill
 

Haven’t noticed with windows 10. 



On Nov 17, 2018, at 11:58, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:

I am using Windows 7 Pro 64 bit.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 and JAWS 2019 Always Crashing on Exit

 

Do you use Windows 7 or Windows 10?

This used to happen a lot to me under Windows 7, Windows 10 rarely ever crashes any more and Jaws under Windows 10 while offering reduced accessibility for many legacy applications I use rarely ever crashes, either.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:39 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Excel 2016 and JAWS 2019 Always Crashing on Exit

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 with Excel 2016.  Every time I exit Excel (alt+F4) after saving my workbook (Controls), both Excel and JAWS crash.  I do not know which crashes first, if that matters.  JAWS automatically restarts.  Excel comes up with the dialogue box saying that the program has stopped working and asks me if I would like to restart the program.

 

Has anyone else experienced this?

 

Thanks,

Richard


Re: JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word not working properly together

Shirley Tracy
 

Thank you all for posting. I’m grateful for the 2018 update, and I plan to wait a while before upgrading to JAWS 2019. Maybe the company will have the bugs worked out by then. I depend on MS Word and don’t want to risk dealing with bugs when I have a version that works well for me. I never upgrade just to have the latest—waiting until some bugs are fixed.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 12:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word not working properly together

 

Hi!

 

I too have found a few bugs with Word, Excel, and Outlook 2016 with JAWS 2019.  However, I think it is *really* important for us all to first see if there is a solution to the problem to be found on this list, and failing that then to send the issue into JAWS for a spot on the bug fix cue.  I have sent-in about three myself.  We all want JAWS to be functional and stable.  If we do not take the time to help fix things, they won’t be.

 

Respectfully,

Richard M.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 7:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word not working properly together
Importance: High

 

Hello all,

     Just now, I found that JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word won’t work together nicely in some aspects. When I’m reading a document, of my own making, JAWS misses some words at times and repeats others—almost as if it’s wrapping up a few phrases/words. I have the document maximized when I’m reading with “say all.” Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening? It doesn’t happen with JAWS 2018 as I’ve checked.

Thank you,

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: retaining old copy of jaws

Don Walls
 

Thanks, Richard. I also thought Michael's messages were empty and deleted them without reading.


Re: Excel 2016 and JAWS 2019 Always Crashing on Exit

Richard B. McDonald
 

I am using Windows 7 Pro 64 bit.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 and JAWS 2019 Always Crashing on Exit

 

Do you use Windows 7 or Windows 10?

This used to happen a lot to me under Windows 7, Windows 10 rarely ever crashes any more and Jaws under Windows 10 while offering reduced accessibility for many legacy applications I use rarely ever crashes, either.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:39 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Excel 2016 and JAWS 2019 Always Crashing on Exit

 

Hi!

 

I am using JAWS 2019 with Excel 2016.  Every time I exit Excel (alt+F4) after saving my workbook (Controls), both Excel and JAWS crash.  I do not know which crashes first, if that matters.  JAWS automatically restarts.  Excel comes up with the dialogue box saying that the program has stopped working and asks me if I would like to restart the program.

 

Has anyone else experienced this?

 

Thanks,

Richard


Re: JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word not working properly together

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

 

I too have found a few bugs with Word, Excel, and Outlook 2016 with JAWS 2019.  However, I think it is *really* important for us all to first see if there is a solution to the problem to be found on this list, and failing that then to send the issue into JAWS for a spot on the bug fix cue.  I have sent-in about three myself.  We all want JAWS to be functional and stable.  If we do not take the time to help fix things, they won’t be.

 

Respectfully,

Richard M.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 7:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word not working properly together
Importance: High

 

Hello all,

     Just now, I found that JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word won’t work together nicely in some aspects. When I’m reading a document, of my own making, JAWS misses some words at times and repeats others—almost as if it’s wrapping up a few phrases/words. I have the document maximized when I’m reading with “say all.” Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening? It doesn’t happen with JAWS 2018 as I’ve checked.

Thank you,

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: retaining old copy of jaws

Richard Turner
 

Michael,
Your messages are ending up at the very end of the quoted messages, so probably not being read by very many people.
Make sure when you write your reply, you are above the quoted text.

I deleted one of your messages because it looked to be empty. When you sent a second that looked the same, I jumped to the end and arrowed back up and found your reply.
I won't be doing that again since it is somewhat of a drag.

Just hoping to help.

Richard


“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 9:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: retaining old copy of jaws


On Nov 17, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:

Well, many people's experience with Jaws 2019 seems to confirm this quite clearly.
This is one of the many things about these huge conglomerates buying up companies and insisting on deadlines for new releases that truly ticks me off. They could not care less about their customers. Atleast they recognize it is a good idea to keep a previous working version around.
We no longer have any real competition in the screen reader market, so they don't have to be concerned. Too many jobs now depend on Jaws scripts so one cannot easily switch to NVDA or Dolphin and be productive, though I'm not sure how productive people can be when they have to spend so much time dealing with buggy new releases only to have to go back to the previous release to get anything done.

I'm done complaining for today.

Richard


“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 8:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: retaining old copy of jaws

I guess being a newbee with Jaws I was quite surprised when I was told by Jaws support that it was a good idea to keep a earlier version of Jaws when installing the newest version as the new version may have issues. I know that is always a possibility with new releases but they made it seem that new releases of Jaws were always quite buggy.






I kind of agree with you.
If you purches the new home annual license you probibly be able to keep up with the current version.
Freedom Scientific or Vispero™ is very logical of coming up with this method.


Re: retaining old copy of jaws

Chris
 

Its always a good idea to keep backup copies of all your important files , as you never know when things could go wrong.

 

But as a newbie you should know this anyway 😃

 

 

From: Don H
Sent: 17 November 2018 16:06
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: retaining old copy of jaws

 

I guess being a newbee with Jaws I was quite surprised when I was told

by Jaws support that it was a good idea to keep a earlier version of

Jaws when installing the newest version as the new version may have

issues.  I know that is always a possibility with new releases but they

made it seem that new releases of Jaws were  always quite buggy.

 

 

 

 


Re: JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word not working properly together

Michael Munn
 




On Nov 17, 2018, at 12:35 PM, Mário Navarro <mario.gnv@...> wrote:


hi.



Absolutely right!

A piece of crap...


More and more confusion of installations that do not work and always with system issues support.

Sorry but I have to say:
Nvda never fails.
cheers.


Às 15:10 de 17/11/2018, Richard Turner escreveu:

In my very humble but opinionated opinion, Jaws 2019 is buggy as hell.  I’ve gone back to using 2018 and will wait for the update to 2019 to see if they fix anything.

I’ve mentioned some of the issues I’ve had on this list, so won’t waste anyones time rehashing them.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 7:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word not working properly together
Importance: High

 

Hello all,

     Just now, I found that JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word won’t work together nicely in some aspects. When I’m reading a document, of my own making, JAWS misses some words at times and repeats others—almost as if it’s wrapping up a few phrases/words. I have the document maximized when I’m reading with “say all.” Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening? It doesn’t happen with JAWS 2018 as I’ve checked.

Thank you,

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


-- 
A acção pode nem sempre ser felicidade, mas não há felicidade sem acção...
The new upgrade either going to be in early DECEMBER or first week of January. 
This year Freedom or Vispero™ will add new feature to their Jaws or ZT along with the update instead of adding new feature during SMA release. 


Re: JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word not working properly together

Mário Navarro
 


hi.



Absolutely right!

A piece of crap...


More and more confusion of installations that do not work and always with system issues support.

Sorry but I have to say:
Nvda never fails.
cheers.


Às 15:10 de 17/11/2018, Richard Turner escreveu:

In my very humble but opinionated opinion, Jaws 2019 is buggy as hell.  I’ve gone back to using 2018 and will wait for the update to 2019 to see if they fix anything.

I’ve mentioned some of the issues I’ve had on this list, so won’t waste anyones time rehashing them.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 7:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word not working properly together
Importance: High

 

Hello all,

     Just now, I found that JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word won’t work together nicely in some aspects. When I’m reading a document, of my own making, JAWS misses some words at times and repeats others—almost as if it’s wrapping up a few phrases/words. I have the document maximized when I’m reading with “say all.” Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening? It doesn’t happen with JAWS 2018 as I’ve checked.

Thank you,

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


-- 
A acção pode nem sempre ser felicidade, mas não há felicidade sem acção...


Re: retaining old copy of jaws

Michael Munn
 

On Nov 17, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:

Well, many people's experience with Jaws 2019 seems to confirm this quite clearly.
This is one of the many things about these huge conglomerates buying up companies and insisting on deadlines for new releases that truly ticks me off. They could not care less about their customers. Atleast they recognize it is a good idea to keep a previous working version around.
We no longer have any real competition in the screen reader market, so they don't have to be concerned. Too many jobs now depend on Jaws scripts so one cannot easily switch to NVDA or Dolphin and be productive, though I'm not sure how productive people can be when they have to spend so much time dealing with buggy new releases only to have to go back to the previous release to get anything done.

I'm done complaining for today.

Richard


“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 8:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: retaining old copy of jaws

I guess being a newbee with Jaws I was quite surprised when I was told by Jaws support that it was a good idea to keep a earlier version of Jaws when installing the newest version as the new version may have issues. I know that is always a possibility with new releases but they made it seem that new releases of Jaws were always quite buggy.






I kind of agree with you.
If you purches the new home annual license you probibly be able to keep up with the current version.
Freedom Scientific or Vispero™ is very logical of coming up with this method.


Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This Release

David & his pack of dogs
 

If I restart the computer, I get the prompt that a driver may not be
properly installed and to run a repair. Several full installations of 018
have been done and now I am on 019, same problem. If I just shut down the
computer and then turn it on, it is fine, no error messages. Someone told
me "the problem could be worked on for hours with no resolution or, it could
work fine then you could get the same error message"

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: November 16, 2018 6:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release

My experience has been that if the update doesn't install, I can download
the full version from the web site and that install will work. I sometimes
get a message telling me to run a JAWS repair when the update doesn't work.
I have done that, but it doesn't help. So I just go download the whole
stinkin' thing.
At 07:52 PM 11/16/2018, you wrote:
Hi Mario,

Tell them that installing J2019 isn't fixing the J2018 update issue so,
how about we just fix the current problem so you can use J2018.
Take care. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending
a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking
for where I saved it!
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:mrb620@hotmail.com>Mario
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release

no error code, just the message "31%. the installation failed".
I'll call them Monday.
hope I get someone who will help and not just say to try to install 2019.



-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B. [mailto:mike9902@gmx.com]
Sent: Fri, Nov 16, 2018 6:25 PM EST
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release

Hi Mario,

I don't have a clue! Maybe call FS tech support. Are you getting any
error codes / messages? I just updated 4 computers, 2 Windows 10 and
2 Windows 7 without a problem.
Take care. Go Rams!
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I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending
a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking
for where I saved it!
----- Original Message -----
From: Mario
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release


after downloading the installer appropriate for my installation of
Windows, I start the installation, but after 31%, the message that "the
installation failed" is announced. what do I do now?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B. [mailto:mike9902@gmx.com]
Sent: Fri, Nov 16, 2018 2:06 PM EST
To: JFW List
Subject: JAWS2018.1811.2 Update Download Links + What's New In This
Release

Hi All,

Below are the download links for this new build, .1811.2, plus what's
new in this release.

32 Bit:

<http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/181102ASEWI/J2018.1811.2.400-enu-x86.exe>h
ttp://jaws2018.vfo.digital/181102ASEWI/J2018.1811.2.400-enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

<http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/181102ASEWI/J2018.1811.2.400-enu-x64.exe>h
ttp://jaws2018.vfo.digital/181102ASEWI/J2018.1811.2.400-enu-x64.exe

What's new in this release:

Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1811.2 (November 2018)

The following is a list of improvements made in JAWS 2018 between the
August
2018 update and the November 2018 update.

list of 7 items
. Resolved an issue with JAWS double speaking links in PDF documents.
. The changes made in JAWS 2019 to address Audio Ducking issues with
the latest Windows 10 updates are now also available in JAWS 2018.
. Resolved an issue where lines were sometimes repeated when using
braille panning in some applications.
. When reading using Say All (INSERT+DOWN ARROW) in the Amazon Kindle
app, addressed an issue where JAWS would unexpectedly stop reading
after a few pages.
. Resolved an issue where Firefox would become unresponsive when
navigating certain web pages with JAWS.
. In Chrome, resolved an issue where JAWS was not reading as expected
in Google Sheets if Braille Mode was turned off.
. Added support for Google Slides film strip tree views.
list end

Take care. Go Rams!
Sent from my iBarstool.
I type out everything I want to remember. That way instead of spending
a lot of time trying to remember what it was, I spend the time looking
for where I saved it!















Re: Off Topic: Accessible podcatchers

Richard Turner
 

First, many people will say that if you really believe a topic is off topic for a list, don't post it.
But, why would this be off topic?
You are using Jaws, right? It is a question related to accessing podcasts using Jaws, right?

Have you tried the free TuneIn radio app in the Windows 10 store?

Richard


"Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure." - Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Gassman
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 8:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Off Topic: Accessible podcatchers

Hi all,
This is definitely off topic but please write me off list with your thoughts and suggestions.
Recently John and I downloaded FSCast 162. We use QCast on the desktop. It doubled the time of the podcast. Glen Gordon told us it was 38 minutes, we both saw 75.
We are both looking for new Desktop podcatchers that are aqccessible.
Please write me off list with your suggestions.
Also QCast does not download some podcasts. It says file can not be found even though the listing for the podcast is there.
Thank you.
Larry


Re: Excel 2016 and JAWS 2019 Always Crashing on Exit

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

I often have these crashes when exiting Excel with JAWS 2018. I have not tried it with JAWS 2019 yet. I am running Windows 7.

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Sieghard Weitzel [sieghard@live.ca]
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 9:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel 2016 and JAWS 2019 Always Crashing on Exit

Do you use Windows 7 or Windows 10?
This used to happen a lot to me under Windows 7, Windows 10 rarely ever crashes any more and Jaws under Windows 10 while offering reduced accessibility for many legacy applications I use rarely ever crashes, either.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:39 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Excel 2016 and JAWS 2019 Always Crashing on Exit

Hi!

I am using JAWS 2019 with Excel 2016. Every time I exit Excel (alt+F4) after saving my workbook (Controls), both Excel and JAWS crash. I do not know which crashes first, if that matters. JAWS automatically restarts. Excel comes up with the dialogue box saying that the program has stopped working and asks me if I would like to restart the program.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Thanks,
Richard


Off Topic: Accessible podcatchers

Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
 

Hi all,
This is definitely off topic but please write me off list with your thoughts and suggestions.
Recently John and I downloaded FSCast 162. We use QCast on the desktop. It doubled the time of the podcast. Glen Gordon told us it was 38 minutes, we both saw 75.
We are both looking for new Desktop podcatchers that are aqccessible.
Please write me off list with your suggestions.
Also QCast does not download some podcasts. It says file can not be found even though the listing for the podcast is there.
Thank you.
Larry


Re: retaining old copy of jaws

Richard Turner
 

Well, many people's experience with Jaws 2019 seems to confirm this quite clearly.
This is one of the many things about these huge conglomerates buying up companies and insisting on deadlines for new releases that truly ticks me off. They could not care less about their customers. Atleast they recognize it is a good idea to keep a previous working version around.
We no longer have any real competition in the screen reader market, so they don't have to be concerned. Too many jobs now depend on Jaws scripts so one cannot easily switch to NVDA or Dolphin and be productive, though I'm not sure how productive people can be when they have to spend so much time dealing with buggy new releases only to have to go back to the previous release to get anything done.

I'm done complaining for today.

Richard


“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 8:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: retaining old copy of jaws

I guess being a newbee with Jaws I was quite surprised when I was told by Jaws support that it was a good idea to keep a earlier version of Jaws when installing the newest version as the new version may have issues. I know that is always a possibility with new releases but they made it seem that new releases of Jaws were always quite buggy.


Re: JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word not working properly together

Gerald Levy
 

 
To be perfectly blunt, JAWS 2019 was probably released prematurely.  Vispero seems to have a firm October 31 deadline by which they insist on releasing the latest version of JAWS, regardless of whether or not it still has known bugs that they haven’t have enough time to fix.
 
Gerald
 
 
 

Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word not working properly together
 

In my very humble but opinionated opinion, Jaws 2019 is buggy as hell.  I’ve gone back to using 2018 and will wait for the update to 2019 to see if they fix anything.

I’ve mentioned some of the issues I’ve had on this list, so won’t waste anyones time rehashing them.

 

Richard

 

 

 

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 7:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word not working properly together
Importance: High

 

Hello all,

     Just now, I found that JAWS 2019 and Microsoft Word won’t work together nicely in some aspects. When I’m reading a document, of my own making, JAWS misses some words at times and repeats others—almost as if it’s wrapping up a few phrases/words. I have the document maximized when I’m reading with “say all.” Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening? It doesn’t happen with JAWS 2018 as I’ve checked.

Thank you,

Ashleigh Piccinino

 

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