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Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom Behler
 

Well, I guess that makes sense, although I believe things like that should be a personal choice left up to the user.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

They thought people could navigate more conveniently if JAWS didn't speak the TAB key, just as it doesn't speak the arrow keys.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Thanks, Bill.

Do you or anyone else know why Vispero made this change?

It's not a terribly big deal, but a question of curiosity more than anything else.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Hi, Tom. ALT plus TAB doesn't work the way it used to, not because of a change in the verbocity settings, but because this is how Vispero set JAWS by default in all upcoming versions. To change this behavior:

1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Jaws key + 6, on the number row then press, control, shift + D, to open default all applications.
2. In the search box, type "key labels"
3. Arrow down to Manage Key Labels, and press SPACE.
4. Press the letter, T, and it'll take you to, Tab tab mute, now tab 1 time an you'll hear, toggle mute button, so press the spacebar to hear, Tab tab speak.
5. Tab to, OK, press the spacebar, tab again to, Okay, press enter to save & close.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Patrick:

When I installed Jaws 2019, I successfully migrated my Jaws user settings from Jaws 2018 during the instalation process itself.

But, I followed your steps again, just to be sure.

Still, it seems like something has changed with regard to my Jaws verbosity settings.

For example, Jaws used to speak Alt Tab when I used that key conbination to switch applications. Now, it no longer does this.

It's certainly not the end of the world, and I can get used to the change. But I do wonder what else has changed and if I'll find other related issues as I work more with the new Jaws 2019.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom,

Not quite answering your question but here are the steps to copy your earlier settings to a new version of JAWS. These steps were sent to me on a JAWS list earlier this week.


Try the following:
1. Open the Jaws context menu with, Insert / Jaws key + J.
2. Down arrow to, Utilities, and press enter.
3. Down arrow to, Import / Export submenu, and press enter.
4. Down arrow to, Migrate settings..., and press enter.
5. Now you'll have a combobox to choose which version of Jaws you would like to migrate your settings from... After you choose which Jaws version tab 1 time to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.


73s,

Patrick

On 11/8/18, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



I've just installed Jaws 2019 on my Windows 7 laptop here, and, for
some reason, I think my verbosity level has been changed from what it
was with Jaws 2018.



Can someone remind me how to change the Jaws verbosity level?



Thanks as always.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, Larry.

I'll check it out.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Gassman
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

I believe either Eric Damery or Glen Gordon spoke about it on the last FS/Open Line for October.
You can find it on the Vispero site.
Larry


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Thanks, Bill.

Do you or anyone else know why Vispero made this change?

It's not a terribly big deal, but a question of curiosity more than anything else.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Hi, Tom. ALT plus TAB doesn't work the way it used to, not because of a change in the verbocity settings, but because this is how Vispero set JAWS by default in all upcoming versions. To change this behavior:

1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Jaws key + 6, on the number row then press, control, shift + D, to open default all applications.
2. In the search box, type "key labels"
3. Arrow down to Manage Key Labels, and press SPACE.
4. Press the letter, T, and it'll take you to, Tab tab mute, now tab 1 time an you'll hear, toggle mute button, so press the spacebar to hear, Tab tab speak.
5. Tab to, OK, press the spacebar, tab again to, Okay, press enter to save & close.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Patrick:

When I installed Jaws 2019, I successfully migrated my Jaws user settings from Jaws 2018 during the instalation process itself.

But, I followed your steps again, just to be sure.

Still, it seems like something has changed with regard to my Jaws verbosity settings.

For example, Jaws used to speak Alt Tab when I used that key conbination to switch applications. Now, it no longer does this.

It's certainly not the end of the world, and I can get used to the change. But I do wonder what else has changed and if I'll find other related issues as I work more with the new Jaws 2019.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom,

Not quite answering your question but here are the steps to copy your earlier settings to a new version of JAWS. These steps were sent to me on a JAWS list earlier this week.


Try the following:
1. Open the Jaws context menu with, Insert / Jaws key + J.
2. Down arrow to, Utilities, and press enter.
3. Down arrow to, Import / Export submenu, and press enter.
4. Down arrow to, Migrate settings..., and press enter.
5. Now you'll have a combobox to choose which version of Jaws you would like to migrate your settings from... After you choose which Jaws version tab 1 time to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.


73s,

Patrick

On 11/8/18, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



I've just installed Jaws 2019 on my Windows 7 laptop here, and, for
some reason, I think my verbosity level has been changed from what it
was with Jaws 2018.



Can someone remind me how to change the Jaws verbosity level?



Thanks as always.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







How to put a radio URL into a play list file, .?

Peter Tesar
 

Hello List,



I listen to Web radio on my Plextalk Linio. The .asx, .m3u and .pls files were provided by Plextalk but, now the BBC files do not work.

 

A few years ago, the BBC announced a change to their streaming standard. Can I create my own file to play on the Plextalk?

 

I have never intentionally played music on my computer, so I don’t know much about Play Lists.

 

I noticed that the .asx, .m3u and .pls files are text files containing a radio station URL. Perhaps these are called play list files.

 

How do I get the correct Web radio URL into these files? Is it as simple as copying and pasting the URL into Notepad and saving it as a .m3u file?

 

Now I listen to the BBC online, using FireFox to go to this streaming site:

   http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_world_service

 

I copied the address and pasted it into Notepad and into the Windows Media Player URL box.

 

Using Notepad I saved the file with the file extension .m3u

but, it won’t play.

 

I also pasted this URL into the Windows Media Player URL box.

I get this message:

 

Windows Media Player cannot play the file. The player might not support the file type or might not support the codec that was used to compress the file.

 

The .asx file contains this URL:

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/radio/bbc_london/

It no longer works.

 

I would like to listen to the BBC World Service on the PlexTalk.

I would appreciate some advice or Web page that would explain the concepts of radio station addresses and how to create a file that will play in the PlexTalk.

 

Thanks,

 

Peter T.


Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

 

Ultimately, if you (any you) are staying with the Windows ecosystem you will be updating to Windows 10.  It is easier to do this now when there is not a massive wave of simultaneous upgrades occurring at the same time.  Come January 2020, there will be.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

  If you remove all the homosexuals and homosexual influences from what is generally regarded as American culture, you are pretty much left with Let's Make a Deal.

          ~ Fran Lebowitz


Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

Roger Newell
 

I also use the touch cursor because I find that it works better than
OCR in many situations.

On 11/9/18, Ben Humphreys <brhbrhbrh@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Keith,

One thing I've noticed about Windows 10 -- the Jaws cursor is
becoming increasingly less functional. I find I have to resort to
OCr more often than in the past.

But there's a lot to like too, such as a much-improved Narrator
(which works even when Jaws crashes).

I think the Ribbon-based Explorer is more cumbersome.

Also, a lot more Tabbing when in Windows configuration screens.

Nothing that's a deal killer, but I do miss how well the Jaws cursor
worked back in Windows 7 and XP days.

Ben

At 02:05 PM 11/8/2018, you wrote:
Hi,

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now,
finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to
Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an
upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if
that would make a difference.

Using the latest JAWS.

Thanks in advance. Keith




Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

They thought people could navigate more conveniently if JAWS didn't speak the TAB key, just as it doesn't speak the arrow keys.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Thanks, Bill.

Do you or anyone else know why Vispero made this change?

It's not a terribly big deal, but a question of curiosity more than anything else.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Hi, Tom. ALT plus TAB doesn't work the way it used to, not because of a change in the verbocity settings, but because this is how Vispero set JAWS by default in all upcoming versions. To change this behavior:

1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Jaws key + 6, on the number row then press, control, shift + D, to open default all applications.
2. In the search box, type "key labels"
3. Arrow down to Manage Key Labels, and press SPACE.
4. Press the letter, T, and it'll take you to, Tab tab mute, now tab 1 time an you'll hear, toggle mute button, so press the spacebar to hear, Tab tab speak.
5. Tab to, OK, press the spacebar, tab again to, Okay, press enter to save & close.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Patrick:

When I installed Jaws 2019, I successfully migrated my Jaws user settings from Jaws 2018 during the instalation process itself.

But, I followed your steps again, just to be sure.

Still, it seems like something has changed with regard to my Jaws verbosity settings.

For example, Jaws used to speak Alt Tab when I used that key conbination to switch applications. Now, it no longer does this.

It's certainly not the end of the world, and I can get used to the change. But I do wonder what else has changed and if I'll find other related issues as I work more with the new Jaws 2019.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom,

Not quite answering your question but here are the steps to copy your earlier settings to a new version of JAWS. These steps were sent to me on a JAWS list earlier this week.


Try the following:
1. Open the Jaws context menu with, Insert / Jaws key + J.
2. Down arrow to, Utilities, and press enter.
3. Down arrow to, Import / Export submenu, and press enter.
4. Down arrow to, Migrate settings..., and press enter.
5. Now you'll have a combobox to choose which version of Jaws you would like to migrate your settings from... After you choose which Jaws version tab 1 time to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.


73s,

Patrick

On 11/8/18, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



I've just installed Jaws 2019 on my Windows 7 laptop here, and, for
some reason, I think my verbosity level has been changed from what it
was with Jaws 2018.



Can someone remind me how to change the Jaws verbosity level?



Thanks as always.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
 

I believe either Eric Damery or Glen Gordon spoke about it on the last FS/Open Line for October.
You can find it on the Vispero site.
Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Thanks, Bill.

Do you or anyone else know why Vispero made this change?

It's not a terribly big deal, but a question of curiosity more than anything else.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Hi, Tom. ALT plus TAB doesn't work the way it used to, not because of a change in the verbocity settings, but because this is how Vispero set JAWS by default in all upcoming versions. To change this behavior:

1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Jaws key + 6, on the number row then press, control, shift + D, to open default all applications.
2. In the search box, type "key labels"
3. Arrow down to Manage Key Labels, and press SPACE.
4. Press the letter, T, and it'll take you to, Tab tab mute, now tab 1 time an you'll hear, toggle mute button, so press the spacebar to hear, Tab tab speak.
5. Tab to, OK, press the spacebar, tab again to, Okay, press enter to save & close.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Patrick:

When I installed Jaws 2019, I successfully migrated my Jaws user settings from Jaws 2018 during the instalation process itself.

But, I followed your steps again, just to be sure.

Still, it seems like something has changed with regard to my Jaws verbosity settings.

For example, Jaws used to speak Alt Tab when I used that key conbination to switch applications. Now, it no longer does this.

It's certainly not the end of the world, and I can get used to the change. But I do wonder what else has changed and if I'll find other related issues as I work more with the new Jaws 2019.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom,

Not quite answering your question but here are the steps to copy your earlier settings to a new version of JAWS. These steps were sent to me on a JAWS list earlier this week.


Try the following:
1. Open the Jaws context menu with, Insert / Jaws key + J.
2. Down arrow to, Utilities, and press enter.
3. Down arrow to, Import / Export submenu, and press enter.
4. Down arrow to, Migrate settings..., and press enter.
5. Now you'll have a combobox to choose which version of Jaws you would like to migrate your settings from... After you choose which Jaws version tab 1 time to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.


73s,

Patrick

On 11/8/18, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



I've just installed Jaws 2019 on my Windows 7 laptop here, and, for
some reason, I think my verbosity level has been changed from what it
was with Jaws 2018.



Can someone remind me how to change the Jaws verbosity level?



Thanks as always.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, Bill.

Do you or anyone else know why Vispero made this change?

It's not a terribly big deal, but a question of curiosity more than anything else.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 7:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Hi, Tom. ALT plus TAB doesn't work the way it used to, not because of a change in the verbocity settings, but because this is how Vispero set JAWS by default in all upcoming versions. To change this behavior:

1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Jaws key + 6, on the number row then press, control, shift + D, to open default all applications.
2. In the search box, type "key labels"
3. Arrow down to Manage Key Labels, and press SPACE.
4. Press the letter, T, and it'll take you to, Tab tab mute, now tab 1 time an you'll hear, toggle mute button, so press the spacebar to hear, Tab tab speak.
5. Tab to, OK, press the spacebar, tab again to, Okay, press enter to save & close.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Patrick:

When I installed Jaws 2019, I successfully migrated my Jaws user settings from Jaws 2018 during the instalation process itself.

But, I followed your steps again, just to be sure.

Still, it seems like something has changed with regard to my Jaws verbosity settings.

For example, Jaws used to speak Alt Tab when I used that key conbination to switch applications. Now, it no longer does this.

It's certainly not the end of the world, and I can get used to the change. But I do wonder what else has changed and if I'll find other related issues as I work more with the new Jaws 2019.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom,

Not quite answering your question but here are the steps to copy your earlier settings to a new version of JAWS. These steps were sent to me on a JAWS list earlier this week.


Try the following:
1. Open the Jaws context menu with, Insert / Jaws key + J.
2. Down arrow to, Utilities, and press enter.
3. Down arrow to, Import / Export submenu, and press enter.
4. Down arrow to, Migrate settings..., and press enter.
5. Now you'll have a combobox to choose which version of Jaws you would like to migrate your settings from... After you choose which Jaws version tab 1 time to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.


73s,

Patrick

On 11/8/18, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



I've just installed Jaws 2019 on my Windows 7 laptop here, and, for
some reason, I think my verbosity level has been changed from what it
was with Jaws 2018.



Can someone remind me how to change the Jaws verbosity level?



Thanks as always.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Tom. ALT plus TAB doesn't work the way it used to, not because of a change in the verbocity settings, but because this is how Vispero set JAWS by default in all upcoming versions. To change this behavior:

1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Jaws key + 6, on the number row then press, control, shift + D, to open default all applications.
2. In the search box, type "key labels"
3. Arrow down to Manage Key Labels, and press SPACE.
4. Press the letter, T, and it'll take you to, Tab tab mute, now tab 1 time an you'll hear, toggle mute button, so press the spacebar to hear, Tab tab speak.
5. Tab to, OK, press the spacebar, tab again to, Okay, press enter to save & close.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Patrick:

When I installed Jaws 2019, I successfully migrated my Jaws user settings from Jaws 2018 during the instalation process itself.

But, I followed your steps again, just to be sure.

Still, it seems like something has changed with regard to my Jaws verbosity settings.

For example, Jaws used to speak Alt Tab when I used that key conbination to switch applications. Now, it no longer does this.

It's certainly not the end of the world, and I can get used to the change. But I do wonder what else has changed and if I'll find other related issues as I work more with the new Jaws 2019.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom,

Not quite answering your question but here are the steps to copy your earlier settings to a new version of JAWS. These steps were sent to me on a JAWS list earlier this week.


Try the following:
1. Open the Jaws context menu with, Insert / Jaws key + J.
2. Down arrow to, Utilities, and press enter.
3. Down arrow to, Import / Export submenu, and press enter.
4. Down arrow to, Migrate settings..., and press enter.
5. Now you'll have a combobox to choose which version of Jaws you would like to migrate your settings from... After you choose which Jaws version tab 1 time to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.


73s,

Patrick

On 11/8/18, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



I've just installed Jaws 2019 on my Windows 7 laptop here, and, for
some reason, I think my verbosity level has been changed from what it
was with Jaws 2018.



Can someone remind me how to change the Jaws verbosity level?



Thanks as always.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
 

The JAWS development team is working on that issue.
It is certainly not ready for prime time, not yet.
But there is hope.
Larry

At 02:26 PM 11/8/2018, you wrote:
Hi Keith,

One thing I've noticed about Windows 10 -- the Jaws cursor is becoming increasingly less functional. I find I have to resort to OCr more often than in the past.

But there's a lot to like too, such as a much-improved Narrator (which works even when Jaws crashes).

I think the Ribbon-based Explorer is more cumbersome.

Also, a lot more Tabbing when in Windows configuration screens.

Nothing that's a deal killer, but I do miss how well the Jaws cursor worked back in Windows 7 and XP days.

Ben

At 02:05 PM 11/8/2018, you wrote:
Hi,

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

Using the latest JAWS.

Thanks in advance. Keith


Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

Alan Robbins
 

Nice, at least they are acknowledging it is an issue. Hopefully will be fixed in December update.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 5:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

Today the tech support person emailed me to say that this issue has been added to the bug fix cue.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 9:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

I am not sure what tech support person you talk to, but I can tell you they are not correct. I noticed this behavior right from the beginning with the first beta for Jaws 2019. This behavior did not happen in jaws 2018.

On Nov 7, 2018, at 11:42 AM, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@gmail.com> wrote:

Indeed. I sent this problem to technical support. They told me that JAWS has always worked this way. Wrong! So, I explained it to them, again, and asked that this issue be formally submitted into the bug fix cue. Let's see what they say.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim
Fettgather
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 1:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

This is a bug in Jaws 2019, I have already submitted feedback about this particularly annoying behavior.

On 11/6/18, Alan Robbins via Groups.Io <alan1057=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
I believe so, that is what I usually do

On Nov 6, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Richard B. McDonald
<richardbmcdonald@gmail.com> wrote:

I just reported it to support. Is that the same as reporting this
problem to them so that it gets into their cue for bug fixes?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan
Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 7:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's
subject line when I open it?

Just checked my settings and they are as suggested and behavior persists.
This has been true through all 3 beta versions as well as final release.
Has anyone reported to Vispero?

Al

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 10:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's
subject line when I open it?

Matthew, this is a different Richard, I’m using Jaws 2019, Windows
10 home 1809, I have Office 365.
In Outlook, following your steps with the settings, the reading
behavior does not change.
I still hear the subject and message type read after hitting enter
on the Email. And, it won’t automatically read… The message type is
uncheck, yet, I hear each time if the Email is HTML, plain text, etc.
I’m off to work, where I have Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 and outlook
2016 so I will check there.

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matthew
Horspool
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 4:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's
subject line when I open it?

Hi James,
Press JAWSKey+V for Quick Settings, and move to and open "Reading
Options". In there, adjust the following:
a. Uncheck "Message Header Field With Message Announcement"
b. Check "Messages Automatically Read"
Then ENTER to close the dialog.
HTH,
Matthew

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 06 November 2018 03:04
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's
subject line when I open it?

Hi!

In JFW 15 with Outlook 2007, I use to be able to have an opened
message begin automatically start reading but not its subject line,
just the message body. I don’t need the subject line re-read
because I already know it from the message’s preview in Outlook’s
list box as I scroll down my inbox. Now, with JFW 2019 and Outlook
2016 the message’s subject line reads after I open it as JFW begins
to read the message’s body. How can I stop the message’s subject line from reading?

Thanks,
Richard







Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom Behler
 

Patrick:

When I installed Jaws 2019, I successfully migrated my Jaws user settings from Jaws 2018 during the instalation process itself.

But, I followed your steps again, just to be sure.

Still, it seems like something has changed with regard to my Jaws verbosity settings.

For example, Jaws used to speak Alt Tab when I used that key conbination to switch applications. Now, it no longer does this.

It's certainly not the end of the world, and I can get used to the change. But I do wonder what else has changed and if I'll find other related issues as I work more with the new Jaws 2019.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom,

Not quite answering your question but here are the steps to copy your earlier settings to a new version of JAWS. These steps were sent to me on a JAWS list earlier this week.


Try the following:
1. Open the Jaws context menu with, Insert / Jaws key + J.
2. Down arrow to, Utilities, and press enter.
3. Down arrow to, Import / Export submenu, and press enter.
4. Down arrow to, Migrate settings..., and press enter.
5. Now you'll have a combobox to choose which version of Jaws you would like to migrate your settings from... After you choose which Jaws version tab 1 time to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.


73s,

Patrick

On 11/8/18, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



I've just installed Jaws 2019 on my Windows 7 laptop here, and, for
some reason, I think my verbosity level has been changed from what it
was with Jaws 2018.



Can someone remind me how to change the Jaws verbosity level?



Thanks as always.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan







Re: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only?

Pat Byrne
 

Nick,
Give them a bit more time to respond.
Pat, K9JAUAt 08:21 AM 11/8/2018, you wrote:

Hi all
I sent a message to FS support asking why the new Jaws yearly subscription plan is for US customers only, but I haven’t received any reply yet. Your thoughts on this?

As I see it, they are basically saying that us users outside the US don’t really require a more affordable way to purchase Jaws and that they are only giving this more affordable option to people in the US.

I’m also wondering what for example will stop me from simply using a friends US address when signing up for this plan. I doubt they’ll be monitoring where a user is located while using it, I think the only important thing to them is the address at sign up.

Nick


Re: Two Part Question

Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
 

Hi Angie,
Audio ducking may be on for you. It isn't supposed to be by default.
I actually like it now that it works well.
As for Jonathan's user voice, it is the vocalizer voice and I believe it is Tom.
You can download it from the Vispero web site.
I downloaded a zip file with over 20 different voices. They are compact in nature so if you want the premium voice it would be a separate download.
He also used Nathan at one time but now I believe it is still Tom.
Larry

At 11:28 AM 11/8/2018, you wrote:
Hi All,
I recently downloaded Jaws 2019. I am not sure if something is wrong with my sound but what it is doing is annoying! As I am reading e mail, or on a web site, the sound goes just a bit lower, then higher. It is not a huge amount of going up and down but like I said it is annoying. I was reading about ducking but I do not have that set up on my computer.

Also I was listening to a Pod Cast with Johnathan Mosen. I really like the voice he uses. Does anyone know which voice it is?

Cheers,
Angie


Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

Ben Humphreys <brhbrhbrh@...>
 

Hi Keith,

One thing I've noticed about Windows 10 -- the Jaws cursor is becoming increasingly less functional. I find I have to resort to OCr more often than in the past.

But there's a lot to like too, such as a much-improved Narrator (which works even when Jaws crashes).

I think the Ribbon-based Explorer is more cumbersome.

Also, a lot more Tabbing when in Windows configuration screens.

Nothing that's a deal killer, but I do miss how well the Jaws cursor worked back in Windows 7 and XP days.

Ben

At 02:05 PM 11/8/2018, you wrote:
Hi,

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

Using the latest JAWS.

Thanks in advance. Keith


Re: New Computer

Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
 

I do have an HP laptop. When I got it in 2013, I had the same issue. I had sighted assistance and we did have to goin to the Bios to get my applications key to work as well as the function keys in general.
It worked, but at that time I could not do it myself,.
I'll probably get the 40 cell El-Braille soon and will not get another Laptop.
At least, that's the plan for now.
Larry

At 08:46 AM 11/8/2018, Cristóbal wrote:
My HP envy doesn't have this issue. From what I recall, I didn't have to go into the bios to change anything either when I first got it.

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Computer

And the Shift F10 combo on an HP sometimes requires the FN key as well ans sometimes not. That's probably my biggest issue with my HP laptop at home is sometimes the FN key is required and sometimes not. I often accidentally turn on airplane mode when trying to use JAWS F12 to check the time. I really do need to go get the bios changed.





-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Computer

in case it's not too late, on a laptop, the use of a missing application key is usually achieved by pressing shift+f10.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Kimber Gardner [mailto:kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, Nov 8, 2018 7:55 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New Computer

Just guessing here, but there may not be an application key at all. I just bought a laptop that doesn't have one and it's going back to the seller.

As for the function keys, they may be set to perform hardware functions rather than the application specific functions you would expect. I'm not sure how you would change that on an HP laptop. But you can get the app specific function by holding down the FN key while pressing the function keys.

I hope this helps.


On 11/8/18, Angie Goodnight <agoodnight@abilitycenter.org> wrote:
Good morning all,
I recently bought a new HP Laptop. I am having a couple of problems but I think it is me not the computer. Some of my shortcut keys are not working such as Insert F7 for links, or F7 for Spell Check. I cannot seem to find the application key where in the past it has always been two keys to the right of the space bar. I have my keyboard set to laptop. I have had no luck trying to search these issues online. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Kind Regards,
Angie Goodnight













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Re: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only?

Cristóbal
 

Cool your jets and pump the outrage breaks a little.
Give it time and as they get their licensing and other international legalities details sorted out, you'll probably see the roll out reach your country.

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bernard Georgiou
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 6:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only?

Hi,


I agree with you, I bet they will not reply either as its wrong they don't offer the same prices worldwide as we all struggle no matter where we live. As a matter of interest, I also saw that in the USA they have an offer to renew their SMA licences, at a cost of US Dollars 60.00.
Here as of yesterday at Sight and Sound they quoted 150.00 pounds with no upcoming specials envisaged. So how fair is that to us here?


Bernard


On 08-Nov-18 6:21 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote:
Hi all
I sent a message to FS support asking why the new Jaws yearly subscription plan is for US customers only, but I haven’t received any reply yet. Your thoughts on this?

As I see it, they are basically saying that us users outside the US don’t really require a more affordable way to purchase Jaws and that they are only giving this more affordable option to people in the US.

I’m also wondering what for example will stop me from simply using a friends US address when signing up for this plan. I doubt they’ll be monitoring where a user is located while using it, I think the only important thing to them is the address at sign up.

Nick


Two Part Question

Angie Goodnight <agoodnight@...>
 

Hi All,

I recently downloaded Jaws 2019. I am not sure if something is wrong with my sound but what it is doing is annoying! As I am reading e mail, or on a web site, the sound goes just a bit lower, then higher. It is not a huge amount of going up and down but like I said it is annoying. I was reading about ducking but I do not have that set up on my computer.

 

Also I was listening to a Pod Cast with Johnathan Mosen. I really like the voice he uses. Does anyone know which voice it is?

 

Cheers,

Angie


JFW 13 and esys braille displays

J.G
 

Hello,

does anybody know, how to pair JFW version 13 and Eurobraille ESYS braille display? I have searched this model between the braille displays, which are listed in the braille wizard, but it is not supported natively. should I install addon or driver from Eurobraille?

thanks for your reply.

best regards,
Jožef


Re: New Computer

Angie Goodnight <agoodnight@...>
 

It worked! Thank you so much!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Computer

in case it's not too late, on a laptop, the use of a missing application
key is usually achieved by pressing shift+f10.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Kimber Gardner [mailto:kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, Nov 8, 2018 7:55 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New Computer

Just guessing here, but there may not be an application key at all. I
just bought a laptop that doesn't have one and it's going back to the
seller.

As for the function keys, they may be set to perform hardware
functions rather than the application specific functions you would
expect. I'm not sure how you would change that on an HP laptop. But
you can get the app specific function by holding down the FN key while
pressing the function keys.

I hope this helps.


On 11/8/18, Angie Goodnight <agoodnight@abilitycenter.org> wrote:
Good morning all,
I recently bought a new HP Laptop. I am having a couple of problems but I
think it is me not the computer. Some of my shortcut keys are not working
such as Insert F7 for links, or F7 for Spell Check. I cannot seem to find
the application key where in the past it has always been two keys to the
right of the space bar. I have my keyboard set to laptop. I have had no luck
trying to search these issues online. Any help would be greatly
appreciated!

Kind Regards,
Angie Goodnight