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Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
 

The JAWS development team is working on that issue.
It is certainly not ready for prime time, not yet.
But there is hope.
Larry

At 02:26 PM 11/8/2018, you wrote:
Hi Keith,

One thing I've noticed about Windows 10 -- the Jaws cursor is becoming increasingly less functional. I find I have to resort to OCr more often than in the past.

But there's a lot to like too, such as a much-improved Narrator (which works even when Jaws crashes).

I think the Ribbon-based Explorer is more cumbersome.

Also, a lot more Tabbing when in Windows configuration screens.

Nothing that's a deal killer, but I do miss how well the Jaws cursor worked back in Windows 7 and XP days.

Ben

At 02:05 PM 11/8/2018, you wrote:
Hi,

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

Using the latest JAWS.

Thanks in advance. Keith
Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

Alan Robbins <alan1057@...>
 

Nice, at least they are acknowledging it is an issue. Hopefully will be fixed in December update.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 5:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

Today the tech support person emailed me to say that this issue has been added to the bug fix cue.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 9:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

I am not sure what tech support person you talk to, but I can tell you they are not correct. I noticed this behavior right from the beginning with the first beta for Jaws 2019. This behavior did not happen in jaws 2018.

On Nov 7, 2018, at 11:42 AM, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@gmail.com> wrote:

Indeed. I sent this problem to technical support. They told me that JAWS has always worked this way. Wrong! So, I explained it to them, again, and asked that this issue be formally submitted into the bug fix cue. Let's see what they say.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim
Fettgather
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 1:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

This is a bug in Jaws 2019, I have already submitted feedback about this particularly annoying behavior.

On 11/6/18, Alan Robbins via Groups.Io <alan1057=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
I believe so, that is what I usually do

On Nov 6, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Richard B. McDonald
<richardbmcdonald@gmail.com> wrote:

I just reported it to support. Is that the same as reporting this
problem to them so that it gets into their cue for bug fixes?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan
Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 7:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's
subject line when I open it?

Just checked my settings and they are as suggested and behavior persists.
This has been true through all 3 beta versions as well as final release.
Has anyone reported to Vispero?

Al

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 10:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's
subject line when I open it?

Matthew, this is a different Richard, I’m using Jaws 2019, Windows
10 home 1809, I have Office 365.
In Outlook, following your steps with the settings, the reading
behavior does not change.
I still hear the subject and message type read after hitting enter
on the Email. And, it won’t automatically read… The message type is
uncheck, yet, I hear each time if the Email is HTML, plain text, etc.
I’m off to work, where I have Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 and outlook
2016 so I will check there.

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matthew
Horspool
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 4:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's
subject line when I open it?

Hi James,
Press JAWSKey+V for Quick Settings, and move to and open "Reading
Options". In there, adjust the following:
a. Uncheck "Message Header Field With Message Announcement"
b. Check "Messages Automatically Read"
Then ENTER to close the dialog.
HTH,
Matthew

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 06 November 2018 03:04
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's
subject line when I open it?

Hi!

In JFW 15 with Outlook 2007, I use to be able to have an opened
message begin automatically start reading but not its subject line,
just the message body. I don’t need the subject line re-read
because I already know it from the message’s preview in Outlook’s
list box as I scroll down my inbox. Now, with JFW 2019 and Outlook
2016 the message’s subject line reads after I open it as JFW begins
to read the message’s body. How can I stop the message’s subject line from reading?

Thanks,
Richard
Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom Behler
 

Patrick:

When I installed Jaws 2019, I successfully migrated my Jaws user settings from Jaws 2018 during the instalation process itself.

But, I followed your steps again, just to be sure.

Still, it seems like something has changed with regard to my Jaws verbosity settings.

For example, Jaws used to speak Alt Tab when I used that key conbination to switch applications. Now, it no longer does this.

It's certainly not the end of the world, and I can get used to the change. But I do wonder what else has changed and if I'll find other related issues as I work more with the new Jaws 2019.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 6:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom,

Not quite answering your question but here are the steps to copy your earlier settings to a new version of JAWS. These steps were sent to me on a JAWS list earlier this week.


Try the following:
1. Open the Jaws context menu with, Insert / Jaws key + J.
2. Down arrow to, Utilities, and press enter.
3. Down arrow to, Import / Export submenu, and press enter.
4. Down arrow to, Migrate settings..., and press enter.
5. Now you'll have a combobox to choose which version of Jaws you would like to migrate your settings from... After you choose which Jaws version tab 1 time to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.


73s,

Patrick

On 11/8/18, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



I've just installed Jaws 2019 on my Windows 7 laptop here, and, for
some reason, I think my verbosity level has been changed from what it
was with Jaws 2018.



Can someone remind me how to change the Jaws verbosity level?



Thanks as always.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
Re: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only?

Pat Byrne
 

Nick,
Give them a bit more time to respond.
Pat, K9JAUAt 08:21 AM 11/8/2018, you wrote:

Hi all
I sent a message to FS support asking why the new Jaws yearly subscription plan is for US customers only, but I haven’t received any reply yet. Your thoughts on this?

As I see it, they are basically saying that us users outside the US don’t really require a more affordable way to purchase Jaws and that they are only giving this more affordable option to people in the US.

I’m also wondering what for example will stop me from simply using a friends US address when signing up for this plan. I doubt they’ll be monitoring where a user is located while using it, I think the only important thing to them is the address at sign up.

Nick
Re: Two Part Question

Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
 

Hi Angie,
Audio ducking may be on for you. It isn't supposed to be by default.
I actually like it now that it works well.
As for Jonathan's user voice, it is the vocalizer voice and I believe it is Tom.
You can download it from the Vispero web site.
I downloaded a zip file with over 20 different voices. They are compact in nature so if you want the premium voice it would be a separate download.
He also used Nathan at one time but now I believe it is still Tom.
Larry

At 11:28 AM 11/8/2018, you wrote:
Hi All,
I recently downloaded Jaws 2019. I am not sure if something is wrong with my sound but what it is doing is annoying! As I am reading e mail, or on a web site, the sound goes just a bit lower, then higher. It is not a huge amount of going up and down but like I said it is annoying. I was reading about ducking but I do not have that set up on my computer.

Also I was listening to a Pod Cast with Johnathan Mosen. I really like the voice he uses. Does anyone know which voice it is?

Cheers,
Angie
Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

Ben Humphreys <brhbrhbrh@...>
 

Hi Keith,

One thing I've noticed about Windows 10 -- the Jaws cursor is becoming increasingly less functional. I find I have to resort to OCr more often than in the past.

But there's a lot to like too, such as a much-improved Narrator (which works even when Jaws crashes).

I think the Ribbon-based Explorer is more cumbersome.

Also, a lot more Tabbing when in Windows configuration screens.

Nothing that's a deal killer, but I do miss how well the Jaws cursor worked back in Windows 7 and XP days.

Ben

At 02:05 PM 11/8/2018, you wrote:
Hi,

I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.

Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.

Using the latest JAWS.

Thanks in advance. Keith
Re: New Computer

Larry Gassman <larrygassman@...>
 

I do have an HP laptop. When I got it in 2013, I had the same issue. I had sighted assistance and we did have to goin to the Bios to get my applications key to work as well as the function keys in general.
It worked, but at that time I could not do it myself,.
I'll probably get the 40 cell El-Braille soon and will not get another Laptop.
At least, that's the plan for now.
Larry

At 08:46 AM 11/8/2018, Cristóbal wrote:
My HP envy doesn't have this issue. From what I recall, I didn't have to go into the bios to change anything either when I first got it.

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Computer

And the Shift F10 combo on an HP sometimes requires the FN key as well ans sometimes not. That's probably my biggest issue with my HP laptop at home is sometimes the FN key is required and sometimes not. I often accidentally turn on airplane mode when trying to use JAWS F12 to check the time. I really do need to go get the bios changed.





-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 8:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Computer

in case it's not too late, on a laptop, the use of a missing application key is usually achieved by pressing shift+f10.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Kimber Gardner [mailto:kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, Nov 8, 2018 7:55 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New Computer

Just guessing here, but there may not be an application key at all. I just bought a laptop that doesn't have one and it's going back to the seller.

As for the function keys, they may be set to perform hardware functions rather than the application specific functions you would expect. I'm not sure how you would change that on an HP laptop. But you can get the app specific function by holding down the FN key while pressing the function keys.

I hope this helps.


On 11/8/18, Angie Goodnight <agoodnight@abilitycenter.org> wrote:
Good morning all,
I recently bought a new HP Laptop. I am having a couple of problems but I think it is me not the computer. Some of my shortcut keys are not working such as Insert F7 for links, or F7 for Spell Check. I cannot seem to find the application key where in the past it has always been two keys to the right of the space bar. I have my keyboard set to laptop. I have had no luck trying to search these issues online. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Kind Regards,
Angie Goodnight













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Re: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only?

Cristóbal
 

Cool your jets and pump the outrage breaks a little.
Give it time and as they get their licensing and other international legalities details sorted out, you'll probably see the roll out reach your country.

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bernard Georgiou
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 6:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only?

Hi,


I agree with you, I bet they will not reply either as its wrong they don't offer the same prices worldwide as we all struggle no matter where we live. As a matter of interest, I also saw that in the USA they have an offer to renew their SMA licences, at a cost of US Dollars 60.00.
Here as of yesterday at Sight and Sound they quoted 150.00 pounds with no upcoming specials envisaged. So how fair is that to us here?


Bernard


On 08-Nov-18 6:21 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote:
Hi all
I sent a message to FS support asking why the new Jaws yearly subscription plan is for US customers only, but I haven’t received any reply yet. Your thoughts on this?

As I see it, they are basically saying that us users outside the US don’t really require a more affordable way to purchase Jaws and that they are only giving this more affordable option to people in the US.

I’m also wondering what for example will stop me from simply using a friends US address when signing up for this plan. I doubt they’ll be monitoring where a user is located while using it, I think the only important thing to them is the address at sign up.

Nick
Two Part Question

Angie Goodnight <agoodnight@...>
 

Hi All,

I recently downloaded Jaws 2019. I am not sure if something is wrong with my sound but what it is doing is annoying! As I am reading e mail, or on a web site, the sound goes just a bit lower, then higher. It is not a huge amount of going up and down but like I said it is annoying. I was reading about ducking but I do not have that set up on my computer.

 

Also I was listening to a Pod Cast with Johnathan Mosen. I really like the voice he uses. Does anyone know which voice it is?

 

Cheers,

Angie
JFW 13 and esys braille displays

J.G
 

Hello,

does anybody know, how to pair JFW version 13 and Eurobraille ESYS braille display? I have searched this model between the braille displays, which are listed in the braille wizard, but it is not supported natively. should I install addon or driver from Eurobraille?

thanks for your reply.

best regards,
Jožef
Re: New Computer

Angie Goodnight <agoodnight@...>
 

It worked! Thank you so much!

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: New Computer

in case it's not too late, on a laptop, the use of a missing application
key is usually achieved by pressing shift+f10.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Kimber Gardner [mailto:kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, Nov 8, 2018 7:55 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New Computer

Just guessing here, but there may not be an application key at all. I
just bought a laptop that doesn't have one and it's going back to the
seller.

As for the function keys, they may be set to perform hardware
functions rather than the application specific functions you would
expect. I'm not sure how you would change that on an HP laptop. But
you can get the app specific function by holding down the FN key while
pressing the function keys.

I hope this helps.


On 11/8/18, Angie Goodnight <agoodnight@abilitycenter.org> wrote:
Good morning all,
I recently bought a new HP Laptop. I am having a couple of problems but I
think it is me not the computer. Some of my shortcut keys are not working
such as Insert F7 for links, or F7 for Spell Check. I cannot seem to find
the application key where in the past it has always been two keys to the
right of the space bar. I have my keyboard set to laptop. I have had no luck
trying to search these issues online. Any help would be greatly
appreciated!

Kind Regards,
Angie Goodnight
Re: New Jaws subscription plan, why US only?

Bernard Georgiou
 

Hi,


I agree with you, I bet they will not reply either as its wrong they don't offer the same prices worldwide as we all struggle no matter where we live. As a matter of interest, I also saw that in the USA they have an offer to renew their SMA  licences, at a cost of US Dollars 60.00. Here as of yesterday at Sight and Sound they quoted 150.00 pounds with no upcoming specials envisaged. So how fair is that to us here?


Bernard

On 08-Nov-18 6:21 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote:
Hi all
I sent a message to FS support asking why the new Jaws yearly subscription plan is for US customers only, but I haven’t received any reply yet. Your thoughts on this?

As I see it, they are basically saying that us users outside the US don’t really require a more affordable way to purchase Jaws and that they are only giving this more affordable option to people in the US.

I’m also wondering what for example will stop me from simply using a friends US address when signing up for this plan. I doubt they’ll be monitoring where a user is located while using it, I think the only important thing to them is the address at sign up.

Nick
Re: Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Patrick Johnson
 

Tom,

Not quite answering your question but here are the steps to copy your
earlier settings to a new version of JAWS. These steps were sent to
me on a JAWS list earlier this week.


Try the following:
1. Open the Jaws context menu with, Insert / Jaws key + J.
2. Down arrow to, Utilities, and press enter.
3. Down arrow to, Import / Export submenu, and press enter.
4. Down arrow to, Migrate settings..., and press enter.
5. Now you'll have a combobox to choose which version of Jaws you
would like to migrate your settings from... After you choose which
Jaws version tab 1
time to, Yes, and press the spacebar and follow the prompts.


73s,

Patrick

On 11/8/18, Tom Behler <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



I've just installed Jaws 2019 on my Windows 7 laptop here, and, for some
reason, I think my verbosity level has been changed from what it was with
Jaws 2018.



Can someone remind me how to change the Jaws verbosity level?



Thanks as always.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
Need refresher on how to change Jaws verbosity level

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

I’ve just installed Jaws 2019 on my Windows 7 laptop here, and, for some reason, I think my verbosity level has been changed from what it was with Jaws 2018.

 

Can someone remind me how to change the Jaws verbosity level?

 

Thanks as always.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 
Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Today the tech support person emailed me to say that this issue has been added to the bug fix cue.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 9:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

I am not sure what tech support person you talk to, but I can tell you they are not correct. I noticed this behavior right from the beginning with the first beta for Jaws 2019. This behavior did not happen in jaws 2018.

On Nov 7, 2018, at 11:42 AM, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@gmail.com> wrote:

Indeed. I sent this problem to technical support. They told me that JAWS has always worked this way. Wrong! So, I explained it to them, again, and asked that this issue be formally submitted into the bug fix cue. Let's see what they say.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim
Fettgather
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 1:28 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's subject line when I open it?

This is a bug in Jaws 2019, I have already submitted feedback about this particularly annoying behavior.

On 11/6/18, Alan Robbins via Groups.Io <alan1057=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
I believe so, that is what I usually do

On Nov 6, 2018, at 4:17 PM, Richard B. McDonald
<richardbmcdonald@gmail.com> wrote:

I just reported it to support. Is that the same as reporting this
problem to them so that it gets into their cue for bug fixes?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan
Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 7:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's
subject line when I open it?

Just checked my settings and they are as suggested and behavior persists.
This has been true through all 3 beta versions as well as final release.
Has anyone reported to Vispero?

Al

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 10:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's
subject line when I open it?

Matthew, this is a different Richard, I’m using Jaws 2019, Windows
10 home 1809, I have Office 365.
In Outlook, following your steps with the settings, the reading
behavior does not change.
I still hear the subject and message type read after hitting enter
on the Email. And, it won’t automatically read… The message type is
uncheck, yet, I hear each time if the Email is HTML, plain text, etc.
I’m off to work, where I have Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 and outlook
2016 so I will check there.

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip
under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matthew
Horspool
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 4:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's
subject line when I open it?

Hi James,
Press JAWSKey+V for Quick Settings, and move to and open "Reading
Options". In there, adjust the following:
a. Uncheck "Message Header Field With Message Announcement"
b. Check "Messages Automatically Read"
Then ENTER to close the dialog.
HTH,
Matthew

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 06 November 2018 03:04
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: How do I get Outlook 2016 to stop reading a message's
subject line when I open it?

Hi!

In JFW 15 with Outlook 2007, I use to be able to have an opened
message begin automatically start reading but not its subject line,
just the message body. I don’t need the subject line re-read
because I already know it from the message’s preview in Outlook’s
list box as I scroll down my inbox. Now, with JFW 2019 and Outlook
2016 the message’s subject line reads after I open it as JFW begins
to read the message’s body. How can I stop the message’s subject line from reading?

Thanks,
Richard
Re: Evaluating laptop keyboards for jaws functionality [adding applications key]

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

I use a Lenovo L440, and I really like it. The one thing it lacks is the applications key. However, below are the steps to add this functionality to the laptop's printscreen key; which in its native functionality I don't think I have ever needed to use. This is from an email Ann wrote some time ago on this list. And, I suspect this works on any computer. So, this is a really easy and productive thing to do:

1. In any application (I used Eudora) press insert+0 to open the script manager.
2. Press control+shift+d to get to the default script manager.
3. Go to the bottom of the file, so it's easy to find and delete if you decide you don't like it.).
4. Type control+e to begin a new script.
5. Give it a name, no spaces: ApplicationsKey.
6. Tab. Can be attached to key, check it.
7. Tab, and type a synopsis
8. Tab again and type a fuller description.
9. Tab, and fill in a category (I chose system)
10. Tab. Assign to hotkey. (I pressed print screen).
11. Tab. Okay.
12. Control+s to compile.

Now you have this:

Script ApplicationsKey ()



EndScript

Which won't do a thing. You need to add the command {shift+f10} and compile again.

Now it looks like this:

Script ApplicationsKey ()

{shift+f10}

EndScript
Close the script manager and test. If it doesn't work the way you want, delete it.

HTH,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 3:56 AM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Evaluating laptop keyboards for jaws functionality

Hi All,

How do jaws users evaluate a keyboard on a laptop you are considering?
I'm talking about the presence (or absence) of keys that are necessary to the functionality of jaws commands.

I received a new Lenovo Ideapad and was dismayed to realize that the keyboard is missing not only the applications key but also the dedicated home, end, page up and page down keys. Strangely, my old Lenovo, the one I am typing this message on, has all these keys so it never occurred to me to try and verify that the new one would also.
But now I'm wondering, how do you check the keyboard specs when ordering a new laptop that you haven't actually had your hands on?

Before someone suggests an external keyboard let me say that I require the portability of a laptop that doesn't necessitate dragging around an extra keyboard. I also don't really want to remap a bunch of keys to accomplish everyday functions.

So what do people suggest? Do I really have to drag myself over to microcenter or some other store so I can actually touch the laptop I'm considering? Is there another way?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Kim

--
Kimberly
Re: Jaws and Very Large PDF documents

John Covici
 

How about the full version of Acrobat DC, not the reader. This one
you have to pay for.

On Thu, 08 Nov 2018 15:58:23 -0500,
LAZZARI Ruth wrote:

Thanks for all of those fine suggestions. I am definitely going to try the Q read for other projects! Unfortunately, she also will need to actually manipulate and edit the document; for instance extract pages then insert them in another. Converting/opening them in word then reconverting can definitely change the formatting. There are many intense tax forms and formats in one of these files.

I think for now (since we cannot ask for them in another format) we might just need to split up the actual documents into 2 or 3 files to do the editing required. I am going to keep trying alternatives though.

Thanks again,

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hope Williamson via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 11:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and Very Large PDF documents

Having some experience with reading long legal documents just for fun, I'd say that you could try something like Q read. If you can extract a page from the document, is there a way to split it into smaller sizes?
Here's a service that will do this, you just have to upload the file.
They do have a desktop client it looks like.
https://www.sodapdf.com/split-pdf//

Also last time I tried it Q read did not work with the JAWS OCR features. It hasn't updated since then, so I doubt much has changed, then again I could be wrong.







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Re: Jaws and Very Large PDF documents

LAZZARI Ruth
 

Thanks for all of those fine suggestions. I am definitely going to try the Q read for other projects! Unfortunately, she also will need to actually manipulate and edit the document; for instance extract pages then insert them in another. Converting/opening them in word then reconverting can definitely change the formatting. There are many intense tax forms and formats in one of these files.

I think for now (since we cannot ask for them in another format) we might just need to split up the actual documents into 2 or 3 files to do the editing required. I am going to keep trying alternatives though.

Thanks again,

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hope Williamson via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 11:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and Very Large PDF documents

Having some experience with reading long legal documents just for fun, I'd say that you could try something like Q read. If you can extract a page from the document, is there a way to split it into smaller sizes?
Here's a service that will do this, you just have to upload the file.
They do have a desktop client it looks like.
https://www.sodapdf.com/split-pdf//

Also last time I tried it Q read did not work with the JAWS OCR features. It hasn't updated since then, so I doubt much has changed, then again I could be wrong.







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Re: Is there a reason to not upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10?

Don H
 

One issue is the availability of drivers for a older computer. I also noticed that when I upgraded a win 7 to Win 10 OS the computer seemed to run much slower. Having said that Win 10 seems to be a good operating system.

On 11/8/2018 1:05 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,
I use a work computer which is still running Windows 7. We have now, finally, been given an opportunity to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10, with a no return to Windows 7 policy once upgraded.
Is there any reason to not upgrade to Windows 10? This will be an upgrade on an older computer, and not a replacement computer, if that would make a difference.
Using the latest JAWS.
Thanks in advance. Keith
Re: anti-virus program recommendation

Mário Navarro
 

hi.

Every time Windows Defender works in backstage, Nvda gets Completely destabilized and slow.
I hate the policies of Windows Defender.
Stupid thing...
cheers.


Às 00:56 de 08/11/2018, Jason White via Groups.Io escreveu:

I also use Windows Defender. In addition, I installed Microsoft's security configuration baseline for Windows 1809:
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/secguide/2018/10/01/security-baseline-draft-for-windows-10-v1809-and-windows-server-2019/

If you have a good backup just in case, and you're comfortable running PowerShell scripts, it should be fairly clear from Microsoft's instructions what to do. If you don't have that background, then I'd suggest having the installation done by someone who does.

The baseline configuration enables various Windows security features, including virtualization-based security, attack surface reduction rules, network protection (blocking of known malicious Web sites), tighter user permissions, stronger BitLocker encryption, prevention of users from writing to unencrypted USB drives, etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 10:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: anti-virus program recommendation

Just use Windows Defender

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Pearson
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 7:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: anti-virus program recommendation

Hello all:

Thank you for your feedback. Last question on topic: Are any of the recommendations(3, I think) free, or do they require some sort of paid subscription?

Truly yours,



David S. Pearson

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 9:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: anti-virus program recommendation

Windows Defender works well as does WebRoot although the WebRoot interface does not always cooperate.

Dan


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 9:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: anti-virus program recommendation

Malwarebytes. I trust all my machines to it.


On 11/6/2018 11:52 PM, David Pearson wrote:
Hello list:

Currently using "Avast" on my Dell Windows7 64 bit desktop machine.

Would like to swap the Avast for different program. Any
recommendations for something that will work well with Jaws?

Thank you,



David S. Pearson
















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