It seems to me that if and when the SMA program is terminated, the least they can do is discount the licenses with additional years.  Has Freedom Scientific/VFO/Vispero forgotten that most blind people don't have a lot of money since so many of us are not employed or receive our JAWS from agencies?

Maria Campbell

lucky1inct@...

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.

~ Blaise Pascal ~

seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.� But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose of this?�

 

Stew

 

On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Thanks, Michael.

�

It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA system.

�

Is this correct?

�

I do have one concern, though.

�

$90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I purchased the license by December 31.

�

Am I missing something?

�

Tom Behler

�

�

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

�

from the fs e store.

�

https://store.freedomscientific.com/

�

From: Tom Behler

Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

�

Michael:

�

Where did you get this info?

�

I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid sentence.

�

I�d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws home options if possible.

�

Thanks for the help!

�

Tom Behler

�

�

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

�

Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home users in the United States. Choose between a one-, three-, or five-year option, with the ability to easily renew your license at the end of your initial term.

With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an upgrade to get new versions when they release � you have access to all upgrades released during your license term. Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft Office�, your browser, and other applications you may use.

JAWS License Comparison

What's Next?

After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an email with instructions and a link to register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software licenses, and provides a simple way to install and activate your software. Your license can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer and put it on a new one later.

When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same email address you used to purchase your license; if you have already registered from previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and sign in � your license will be available.

JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows operating system. Refer

�

From: Tom Behler

Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM

To: 'jfw list'

Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

�

Hello, everyone.

�

I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now available with the release of Jaws 2019.

�

Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it at some point.

�

Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for $120.

�

If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d certainly love to learn about it.

�

Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan

�

�

 

Absolutely! My thoughts exactly. But if you only plan on either trying Jaws for a year or don't plan on keeping up on all versions then the license program seems to be a good alternative.


On 11/2/2018 9:21 AM, Mario wrote:

in addition, I don't think that the SMA scheme will ever be replaced,
and I sincerely hope it never does. there is no harm in keeping the SMA
scheme for those who keep their use of JAWS versions up to date.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Alan Robbins via Groups.Io [mailto:alan1057=me.com@groups.io]
Sent: Friday, Nov 2, 2018 6:45 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

From what I have read, as well as listened to from Freedom scientific
staff and podcast, it would cost you $90 and it would be that recurring
charge each year to keep a current license to have jaws installed and up
to three computers.

On Nov 2, 2018, at 6:23 AM, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@verizon.net
<mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net>> wrote:

I’m confused. Suppose I wanted to upgrade from JAWS 16, which is
the version I am currently using, to JAWS 2019. Are you saying that
under the new licensing arrangement I would only have to pay $90 for
the upgrade, versus about $480 if I went the SMA route? Or would I
have to pay $270 to cover JAWS versions 17,18, and 2018, on top of the
$90 for JAWS 2019? Please clarify.
Gerald
*From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:sieghard@live.ca>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 11:12 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

I think this is also an offer which would make it much less expensive
for somebody who didn’t keep their SMA up-to-date to get current on
Jaws. If, for example, somebody was still on Jaws 16 or even earlier
they would have to pay several hundreds of Dollars to get current and
then another $120 for the SMA. This way they can just subscribe for
$90 a year and they are done. What I haven’t figured out yet is if
this also applies for new Jaws users, e.g. if you don’t have Jaws at
all, can you just pay $90 a year and download/use the latest version
of Jaws and as long as you keep you rsubscription active then you can
continue to do so? If so then this really is a good option for new
Jaws users because instead of paying $900 or whatever Jaws costs + the
cost of future SMA’s they would djust pay $90 a year. After 10 years
you would have paid $900 which is I believe what Jaws Home costs, if
you had bought it for $900 and then you would buy 5 SMA’s at $120/each
you would have paid $1,500 after 10 years so if you are a new Jaws
user then $90 a year really is a very reasonable price and who knows
what happens in 5 or 6 let alpong 8 or 10 years, maybe Jaws won’t
exist any more as such, maybe Microsoft buys them out and it gets
merged with Narrator into Microsoft and becomes free, I certainly
wouldn’t bet on Jaws being the leading screenreader in 10 years any more.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Chris Hill
*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 7:37 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

It sounds like it would be a bit more flexible since you don't have to
fight with the activation as much if you use a lot of different
computers, but otherwise it looks like a way to generate more
revenue. I just renewed my SMa, they will have a little while longer
to wait for my extra revenue.

CH

On 11/1/2018 20:53, cecropia64 wrote:

seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by
a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.�
But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety
dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose
of this?�

Stew

On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Thanks, Michael.

�

It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA
system.

�

Is this correct?

�

I do have one concern, though.

�

$90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since
back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I
purchased the license by December 31.

�

*Am I missing something?*

*�*

*Tom Behler*

*�*

*�*

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
mailto:main@jfw.groups.io *On Behalf Of *Michael Amaro
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:23 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

�

from the fs e store.

�

https://store.freedomscientific.com/
<wlmailhtml:%7b9C3B667B-BEAC-4613-97DF-4EF1CEF83958%7dmid://00000009/%21x-usc:https://store.freedomscientific.com/>;

�

*From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>

*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM

*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

�

Michael:

�

Where did you get this info?

�

I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid
sentence.

�

I�d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws
home options if possible.

�

Thanks for the help!

�

Tom Behler

�

�

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*Michael Amaro
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:05 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

�

Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most
popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now
available for home users in the United States. *Choose between
a one-, three-, or five-year option*, with the ability to
easily renew your license at the end of your initial term.

With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most
up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an
upgrade to get new versions when they release � you have
access to all upgrades released during your license term.
Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available
is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with
the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft
Office�, your browser, and other applications you may use.

*JAWS License Comparison
<https://www.freedomscientific.com/products/blindness/JAWSLicenseComparison>;*

*What's Next?*

After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will
receive an email with instructions and a link to register on
the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to
access and manage your software licenses, and provides a
simple way to install and activate your software. Your license
can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the
portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer
and put it on a new one later.

When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the
same email address you used to purchase your license; if you
have already registered from previous purchases, simply select
the link you receive and sign in � your license will be
available.

JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal,
non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported
versions of the Windows operating system. Refer

�

*From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>

*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM

*To:* 'jfw list' <mailto:jfw@groups.io>

*Subject:* Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

�

Hello, everyone.

�

I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem
to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home
license that apparently is now available with the release of
Jaws 2019.

�

Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need
to do something to renew it at some point.

�

Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year
period for $120.

�

If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d
certainly love to learn about it.

�

Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan

�

�

Yes, I am almost positive that one can now script a particular web page.  In addition, and perhaps more attainable, In Quick Settings, you can also change settings for a specific (current) page.  You can label elements, perhaps use place markers. 

Hello,

I am kind of in a bind. The time collection program we use here at work is no longer going to be supported on the desk top version. I had scripts developed for this version but now they are moving to the web platform.

At best I think the site is poorley written. It is entirely  possible that I don’t have all the skills to work with this site but I have found several unlabled elements, The virtual curser treats the lines in a grid as one continuous line to be read instead of individual elements, and there are bound to be more things I haven’t found yet.

If I contact the rehab agency here to help can it even be done? Can a script be written for a web application?

Or am I out of luck?

Thanks

Shannon

Absolutely! My thoughts exactly.  But if you only plan on either trying Jaws for a year or don't plan on keeping up on all versions then the license program seems to be a good alternative.


On 11/2/2018 9:21 AM, Mario wrote:

in addition, I don't think that the SMA scheme will ever be replaced,
and I sincerely hope it never does. there is no harm in keeping the SMA
scheme for those who keep their use of JAWS versions up to date.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Alan Robbins via Groups.Io [mailto:alan1057=me.com@groups.io]
Sent: Friday, Nov 2, 2018 6:45 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

   From what I have read, as well as listened to from Freedom scientific
staff and podcast, it would cost you $90 and it would be that recurring
charge each year to keep a current license to have jaws installed and up
to three computers.

On Nov 2, 2018, at 6:23 AM, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@verizon.net
<mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net>> wrote:

I’m confused.    Suppose I wanted to upgrade from JAWS 16, which is
the version I am currently using, to JAWS 2019.  Are you saying that
under the new licensing arrangement  I would only have to pay $90 for
the upgrade, versus about $480 if I went the SMA route?  Or would I
have to pay $270 to cover JAWS versions 17,18, and 2018, on top of the
$90 for JAWS 2019? Please clarify.
Gerald
*From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:sieghard@live.ca>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 11:12 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

I think this is also an offer which would make it much less expensive
for somebody who didn’t keep their SMA up-to-date to get current on
Jaws. If, for example, somebody was still on Jaws 16 or even earlier
they would have to pay several hundreds of Dollars to get current and
then another $120 for the SMA. This way they can just subscribe for
$90 a year and they are done. What I haven’t figured out yet is if
this also applies for new Jaws users, e.g. if you don’t have Jaws at
all, can you just pay $90 a year and download/use the latest version
of Jaws and as long as you keep you rsubscription active then you can
continue to do so? If so then this really is a good option for new
Jaws users because instead of paying $900 or whatever Jaws costs + the
cost of future SMA’s they would djust pay $90 a year. After 10 years
you would have paid $900 which is I believe what Jaws Home costs, if
you had bought it for $900 and then you would buy 5 SMA’s at $120/each
you would have paid $1,500 after 10 years so if you are a new Jaws
user then $90 a year really is a very reasonable price and who knows
what happens in 5 or 6 let alpong 8 or 10 years, maybe Jaws won’t
exist any more as such, maybe Microsoft buys them out and it gets
merged with Narrator into Microsoft and becomes free, I certainly
wouldn’t bet on Jaws being the leading screenreader in 10 years any more.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Chris Hill
*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 7:37 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

It sounds like it would be a bit more flexible since you don't have to
fight with the activation as much if you use a lot of different
computers, but otherwise it looks like a way to generate more
revenue.  I just renewed my SMa, they will have a little while longer
to wait for my extra revenue.

CH

On 11/1/2018 20:53, cecropia64 wrote:

      seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by
      a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.�
      But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety
      dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose
      of this?�

      Stew

      On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

          Thanks, Michael.

          �

          It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA
          system.

          �

          Is this correct?

          �

          I do have one concern, though.

          �

          $90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since
          back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I
          purchased the license by December 31.

          �

          *Am I missing something?*

          *�*

          *Tom Behler*

          *�*

          *�*

          *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
          mailto:main@jfw.groups.io *On Behalf Of *Michael Amaro
          *Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:23 PM
          *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
          *Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

          �

          from the fs e store.

          �

          https://store.freedomscientific.com/
<wlmailhtml:%7b9C3B667B-BEAC-4613-97DF-4EF1CEF83958%7dmid://00000009/%21x-usc:https://store.freedomscientific.com/>;

          �

          *From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>

          *Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM

          *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

          *Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

          �

          Michael:

          �

          Where did you get this info?

          �

          I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid
          sentence.

          �

          I�d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws
          home options if possible.

          �

          Thanks for the help!

          �

          Tom Behler

          �

          �

          *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
          <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
          *Michael Amaro
          *Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:05 PM
          *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
          *Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

          �

          Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most
          popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now
          available for home users in the United States. *Choose between
          a one-, three-, or five-year option*, with the ability to
          easily renew your license at the end of your initial term.

          With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most
          up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an
          upgrade to get new versions when they release � you have
          access to all upgrades released during your license term.
          Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available
          is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with
          the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft
          Office�, your browser, and other applications you may use.

          *JAWS License Comparison
<https://www.freedomscientific.com/products/blindness/JAWSLicenseComparison>;*

          *What's Next?*

          After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will
          receive an email with instructions and a link to register on
          the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to
          access and manage your software licenses, and provides a
          simple way to install and activate your software. Your license
          can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the
          portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer
          and put it on a new one later.

          When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the
          same email address you used to purchase your license; if you
          have already registered from previous purchases, simply select
          the link you receive and sign in � your license will be
          available.

          JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal,
          non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported
          versions of the Windows operating system. Refer

          �

          *From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>

          *Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM

          *To:* 'jfw list' <mailto:jfw@groups.io>

          *Subject:* Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

          �

          Hello, everyone.

          �

          I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem
          to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home
          license that apparently is now available with the release of
          Jaws 2019.

          �

          Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need
          to do something to renew it at some point.

          �

          Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year
          period for $120.

          �

          If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d
          certainly love to learn about it.

          �

          Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan

          �

          �

In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many
of how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:

I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Try insert+tab instead of enter+tab. also, sometimes the status line
tells the how many of how many--insert+numpad 3.
At 08:07 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13
is the count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in
13. And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many
of how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:

I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim

--
HAVE A MAGNIFICENT DAY

GEORGE BURRELL GRAY

Ocean Winds
Cabarete/Sosua
REPUBLICA DOMINICANA

It seems to me that if and when the SMA program is terminated, the least they can do is discount the licenses with additional years.  Has Freedom Scientific/VFO/Vispero forgotten that most blind people don't have a lot of money since so many of us are not employed or receive our JAWS from agencies?

Maria Campbell

lucky1inct@...

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.

~ Blaise Pascal ~

seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.� But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose of this?�

 

Stew

 

On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Thanks, Michael.

�

It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA system.

�

Is this correct?

�

I do have one concern, though.

�

$90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I purchased the license by December 31.

�

Am I missing something?

�

Tom Behler

�

�

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

�

from the fs e store.

�

https://store.freedomscientific.com/

�

From: Tom Behler

Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

�

Michael:

�

Where did you get this info?

�

I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid sentence.

�

I�d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws home options if possible.

�

Thanks for the help!

�

Tom Behler

�

�

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

�

Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home users in the United States. Choose between a one-, three-, or five-year option, with the ability to easily renew your license at the end of your initial term.

With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an upgrade to get new versions when they release � you have access to all upgrades released during your license term. Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft Office�, your browser, and other applications you may use.

JAWS License Comparison

What's Next?

After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an email with instructions and a link to register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software licenses, and provides a simple way to install and activate your software. Your license can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer and put it on a new one later.

When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same email address you used to purchase your license; if you have already registered from previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and sign in � your license will be available.

JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows operating system. Refer

�

From: Tom Behler

Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM

To: 'jfw list'

Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

�

Hello, everyone.

�

I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now available with the release of Jaws 2019.

�

Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it at some point.

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Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for $120.

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If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d certainly love to learn about it.

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Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan

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I am one of those who was a strong supporter/user of Window-Eyes.  I was extremely sad that VFO bought them out to finally kill it.

That being said, GW Micro was paid a large sum of money by Microsoft to do the Office deal to get Window-Eyes for free.  That version did not come with support, if someone wanted support, they had to pay an extra charge.  The amount Microsoft paid has never been revealed.  I am not going to get into the debate about which screen reader was better since there is no chance Window-Eyes is coming back.

Unless I am missing something really obvious here, the home license for essentially $60 per year is good on one computer.  The new deal at $90 per year is good for up to three computers.  So, if you are in a household with at least two Jaws users, that is a better deal.

If you have only one computer, like myself and am the only one needing Jaws, then the SMA is a better deal.

And, also unless I am missing something, you have always been able to deactivate your license on one computer and put it on another one.

I will not be surprised that I have no idea what I’m talking about, but I’m happy with buying the SMA.

Richard

seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.� But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose of this?�

Stew

On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Thanks, Michael.

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It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA system.

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Is this correct?

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I do have one concern, though.

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$90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I purchased the license by December 31.

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Am I missing something?

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Tom Behler

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

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From: Tom Behler

Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

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Michael:

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Where did you get this info?

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I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid sentence.

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I�d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws home options if possible.

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Thanks for the help!

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Tom Behler

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

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Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home users in the United States. Choose between a one-, three-, or five-year option, with the ability to easily renew your license at the end of your initial term.

With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an upgrade to get new versions when they release � you have access to all upgrades released during your license term. Having access to new versions of JAWS as they become available is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft Office�, your browser, and other applications you may use.

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What's Next?

After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an email with instructions and a link to register on the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software licenses, and provides a simple way to install and activate your software. Your license can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer and put it on a new one later.

When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same email address you used to purchase your license; if you have already registered from previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and sign in � your license will be available.

JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows operating system. Refer

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From: Tom Behler

Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM

To: 'jfw list'

Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

�

Hello, everyone.

�

I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now available with the release of Jaws 2019.

�

Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it at some point.

�

Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for $120.

�

If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d certainly love to learn about it.

�

Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan

�

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Try insert+tab instead of enter+tab. also, sometimes the status line
tells the how many of how many--insert+numpad 3.
At 08:07 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13
is the count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in
13. And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many
of how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:

I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim

--
HAVE A MAGNIFICENT DAY

GEORGE BURRELL GRAY

Ocean Winds
Cabarete/Sosua
REPUBLICA DOMINICANA

I also have this situation. It appears that somehow a maximum of 13
is the count in any Folder where I have many additional files.

If I pres Enter + T it reads the file name and whatever it's place in
13. And, when I press Enter + Tab I hear the same.

Thanks.

On 11/2/18, Ann Byrne <annakb@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In most cases, insert+tab will read the current item, plus how many
of how many.

I hope this works in your case.
At 05:29 AM 11/2/2018, you wrote:

I used to use window eyes. It would read the number if items in a
folder after reading off a file name. Is there a way to do this in
jaws? Right now jaws only reads item names in file explorer not how
many items there afterwards

Thanks

Jim

--
HAVE A MAGNIFICENT DAY

GEORGE BURRELL GRAY

Ocean Winds
Cabarete/Sosua
REPUBLICA DOMINICANA

Hi Sieghard,


My serial number is 7105.  My original number got messed up and I had to be issued a newer one when Voc Rehab bought me a license when I went to college.


Ward


On 10/31/2018 11:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hey Ward,

For me it was also Jaws for DOS back in September or October of 1989.
I then had Jaws for Windows from the first release in the early 90's with Windows 3.1, then 3.11 and of course with Windows 95, 98 and 98SE things really started getting more serious.
Sounds like we have most of these young guys on the list beat, but let's see, what is your Jaws serial number? I have serial number 1056 and that has been my serial number for the last almost 30 years.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ward Dudley
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 7:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws

Jaws for DOS.


Ward


On 10/31/2018 5:30 PM, Larry Gassman wrote:

I don't remember the exact version but it was 1997.  So it had to be
around 2. something.
Larry
At 03:17 PM 10/31/2018, you wrote:

I started with JAWS 3.1.



Maria Campbell
<mailto:lucky1inct@gmail.com>lucky1inct@gmail.com

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~

On 10/31/2018 6:15 PM, Michael Munn wrote:

Man! You'all had been using Jaws for a long time.Â
I had been using Jaws for only 2 years.Â
My first Jaws version was Jaws17.Â
I learned my command from other screen reader.Â
You know that all screen reader have the same element. T for table H
for heading and B for button...Â
I was a former Window-eyes user for  couple months.Â


"If a person must be blind, it is better to be blind in Iowa than
anywhere else in the nation or in the world."
Harold Russell,Â
Des MoinesÂ
1968
Michael Munn
Member:
Virginia Association of Blind Student
Delegate:Â Â
Virginia Association of Blind Student
Student of:
Hadley Institute for the Blind
<http://www.hadley.edu>;www.hadley.edu
Email address:
<mailto:michaelrbms@gmail.com>michaelrbms@gmail.com




On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 5:05 PM David Moore
<<mailto:jesusloves1966@gmail.com>jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:

My first version of JAWS was 3.7.

I began using that version when I went back to Ohio State University
in 2002!

David Moore

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Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:59 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws

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hmmm, my first jaws was 2.0.

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