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Re: Jaws 2019 has been released
James Homuth
While I’d like to share your optimism… you could renew your SMA online for half an age prior to this change. But only if you’re in the US. I don’t think that’s a priority. Besides, it’d take money away from their authorized vendors.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: November-01-18 12:19 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 has been released
Let’s give it some time, maybe they will offer this for Canada down the road. Certainly something I will suggest to them and if others do so it may help.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Homuth
I saw that this morning. Figures.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Capelle
hey james, yes, this is just for the US.
From: James Homuth Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 has been released
Which is awesome. However, is that only for the US? Because that would make me a sad geek.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
You get so many keys to put JAWS on multiple devices. One thing you can do with the yearly version, is that you can take the key off of one machine you are not using, and transfer that key to another computer. You can do all of this on the portal! David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: James Homuth
I think that’s available only in the US though. And also, please tell me you can still licence JAWS for multiple devices with this plan, or that’d be reason alone to keep the SMA.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
You do not need an SMA anymore. you could subscribe to jaws for $90 per year, $270 for 3 years, and $450 for 5 years of jaws and move your licenses between any 3 computers, authorise and dee-authorise computers all on your own with the new license platform found in the freedom scientific e-store.
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Re: Jaws 2019 has been released
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Let’s give it some time, maybe they will offer this for Canada down the road. Certainly something I will suggest to them and if others do so it may help.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
James Homuth
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 9:18 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 has been released
I saw that this morning. Figures.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Mike Capelle
hey james, yes, this is just for the US.
From: James Homuth Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 has been released
Which is awesome. However, is that only for the US? Because that would make me a sad geek.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of David Moore
You get so many keys to put JAWS on multiple devices. One thing you can do with the yearly version, is that you can take the key off of one machine you are not using, and transfer that key to another computer. You can do all of this on the portal! David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: James Homuth
I think that’s available only in the US though. And also, please tell me you can still licence JAWS for multiple devices with this plan, or that’d be reason alone to keep the SMA.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
You do not need an SMA anymore. you could subscribe to jaws for $90 per year, $270 for 3 years, and $450 for 5 years of jaws and move your licenses between any 3 computers, authorise and dee-authorise computers all on your own with the new license platform found in the freedom scientific e-store.
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Re: Jaws 2019 has been released
James Homuth
I saw that this morning. Figures.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Capelle
Sent: November-01-18 11:46 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 has been released
hey james, yes, this is just for the US.
From: James Homuth Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 has been released
Which is awesome. However, is that only for the US? Because that would make me a sad geek.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
You get so many keys to put JAWS on multiple devices. One thing you can do with the yearly version, is that you can take the key off of one machine you are not using, and transfer that key to another computer. You can do all of this on the portal! David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: James Homuth
I think that’s available only in the US though. And also, please tell me you can still licence JAWS for multiple devices with this plan, or that’d be reason alone to keep the SMA.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
You do not need an SMA anymore. you could subscribe to jaws for $90 per year, $270 for 3 years, and $450 for 5 years of jaws and move your licenses between any 3 computers, authorise and dee-authorise computers all on your own with the new license platform found in the freedom scientific e-store.
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Re: Jaws 2019 has been released
Mike Capelle <mike.capelle@...>
hey james, yes, this is just for the US.
From: James Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws 2019 has been released Which is awesome. However, is that only for the US? Because that would make me a sad geek.
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Moore
You get so many keys to put JAWS on multiple devices. One thing you can do with the yearly version, is that you can take the key off of one machine you are not using, and transfer that key to another computer. You can do all of this on the portal! David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: James Homuth
I think that’s available only in the US though. And also, please tell me you can still licence JAWS for multiple devices with this plan, or that’d be reason alone to keep the SMA.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Josh Kennedy
You do not need an SMA anymore. you could subscribe to jaws for $90 per year, $270 for 3 years, and $450 for 5 years of jaws and move your licenses between any 3 computers, authorise and dee-authorise computers all on your own with the new license platform found in the freedom scientific e-store.
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Re: What is your first version of Jaws
Michael Munn
Thanks all for letting me know. I start this thread because
1. This way I get to know about you and your history of using JAWAS for Windows. 2. This is a great way to learn about the old technology 3. This allow me to know how well you know about the screen Reader. Thanks Best Regards Michael Munn
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Re: new versions of jaws
Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
Kevin,
The last Beta version of Jaws 2019 which became the public release was Jaws 2019.1810.64. If you have a .42 at the end of your version number if you check it in Jaws Menu > About then you are not on the current release and you should download it from the FS website and install over top of your current beta 2 version. Remember you do have to now license Jaws 2019 which requires 1 SMA.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Kevin Meyers
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 5:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: new versions of jaws
I also have not gotten the pop up saying Jaws 2019 is ready.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Mark Furness
I am running beta2 of jaws 2019. No pop up telling me that there is a new version of Jaws has come to me. Unless I messed up something in Jaws and I know from emails that 2019 is now out where is my notice which ask me if I want it and will download it
Thank you for all your knowledgeable help!!!
Mark F.
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Re: What is your first version of Jaws
ratshtron
I still made a mistake on my first serial number of jaws, I guess CRS is kicking in, lol! I thought I still had my original authorization floppy disk but cannot find it at tis time but I do remember it started with 56 and not sure of the last two numbers but may 5624 or 5626 something like that at least 21 years ago.
Legend has it that on Thursday 11/1/2018 07:38 AM, Bob Hicks said: ---------------------------------------- Mine was 3.1----------------------------------------
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Re: Searching Outlook 2016 calendar
Mario
as I remember, you'll need to download and install the sound pack file
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from Microsoft and enable sound feedback in Office 2013. I don't remember the exact steps to perform the latter.
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From: CJ &AA MAY [mailto:chrisalismay@...] Sent: Thursday, Nov 1, 2018 10:11 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Searching Outlook 2016 calendar How do you switch on Outlook sounds please. Alison *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io *Sent:* 31 October 2018 19:43 *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* Re: Searching Outlook 2016 calendar Al, I don’t’ recall how calendar searches worked in past versions, but here is what I do in Outlook 2016. Go into the Calendar. Hit Control E to the Search edit box. Type your search term. If you have office sounds turned on, you’ll heard a little run of ascending tones as the search completes. Now, hit F6 until you hear JAWS say list view then arrow down through the options. I noticed in my text just now that it pulls in calendar related items, such as meeting invitation notices. In a home calendar this is likely fine, but certainly adds clutter to search results in a setting where you send meeting invitations to people. *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Alan Robbins via Groups.Io *Sent:* Wednesday, October 31, 2018 10:04 AM *To:* JFWList <jfw@groups.IO <mailto:jfw@groups.IO>> *Subject:* Searching Outlook 2016 calendar Using latest 1803 version, Jaws 2019 and MS office 2016, what is the most efficient and Jaws friendly way to search the calendar for a past appointment? Used to do this on Office 2010 and have not since updating to Office 2016 but old way does not produce the same results. Googled this but did not find any good answered so before doing more advanced searches figured I’d check with the list. Al This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information. 127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114 If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key send an e-mail to mailto:DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.
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Re: What is your first version of Jaws
ratshtron
hmmm, not quite as early as you, but my original
serial number was 2064 if I remember correctly, lol! 2.0 and I made a mistake on the windows version in my last message, it was windows 3.11 for workgroups not 3.1. I didn't get the opertunity of using jaws for dos till later because I had been using ASAP written by Larry Skuchan back in those days, lol! tried ASAW but that version didn't take off. Legend has it that on Wednesday 10/31/2018 11:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel said: ---------------------------------------- Hey Ward,----------------------------------------
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Re: First Version of JAWS
ratshtron
hmmm, i believe in 1995 it was jaws 1.0 or maybe 2.0 and then 2.31 came out that supported windows also but not sure on that. I know I received jaws 2.0 and then 2.31 to be able to work with windows 3.1 for workgroups. a good 21 years ago, lol!
Legend has it that on Wednesday 10/31/2018 10:06 PM, Portia Mason via Groups.Io said: ---------------------------------------- Hi all. I don't remember the exact version that came out back in 1995. But, I started using it when I was working at the time.----------------------------------------
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Re: What is your first version of Jaws
Michael Munn
Good to know.
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On Nov 1, 2018, at 9:43 AM, HH. Smith Jr. <josham129@...> wrote:
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Re: Searching Outlook 2016 calendar
CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...>
How do you switch on Outlook sounds please. Alison
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: 31 October 2018 19:43 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Searching Outlook 2016 calendar
Al, I don’t’ recall how calendar searches worked in past versions, but here is what I do in Outlook 2016. Go into the Calendar. Hit Control E to the Search edit box. Type your search term. If you have office sounds turned on, you’ll heard a little run of ascending tones as the search completes. Now, hit F6 until you hear JAWS say list view then arrow down through the options. I noticed in my text just now that it pulls in calendar related items, such as meeting invitation notices. In a home calendar this is likely fine, but certainly adds clutter to search results in a setting where you send meeting invitations to people.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Using latest 1803 version, Jaws 2019 and MS office 2016, what is the most efficient and Jaws friendly way to search the calendar for a past appointment? Used to do this on Office 2010 and have not since updating to Office 2016 but old way does not produce the same results. Googled this but did not find any good answered so before doing more advanced searches figured I’d check with the list.
Al
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Re: Which version of Firefox Quantum works best with JAWS 2019?
Chris Hill
Not necessarily. Unfortunately the latest version has broken some controls, I think the thing I need to use that is now broken is a combo box. It doesn't work with nvda or jaws either one.
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Personally, as much as I like Firefox, I believe I'll be forced into Chrome before all this is over.
On 11/1/2018 07:09, Milton Ota wrote:
You will want the latest version of the Mozilla Firefox which is 63. If you are running the 64 bit version, you want the 64 bit of firefox.
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Re: Searching Outlook 2016 calendar
CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...>
Thank you very much; this is exactly what I needed to know, that is, how to return to my e-mails. Alison
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: 31 October 2018 19:36 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Searching Outlook 2016 calendar
Allison, Do you mean that you want to return to Mail from Calendar? If this is the case, then Control 1 will take you back to your inbox. Also, Control Shift I will take you to the Inbox from wherever you are in Outlook.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
When in Calendar, is there any way of exiting without exiting Outlook? Alison
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Using latest 1803 version, Jaws 2019 and MS office 2016, what is the most efficient and Jaws friendly way to search the calendar for a past appointment? Used to do this on Office 2010 and have not since updating to Office 2016 but old way does not produce the same results. Googled this but did not find any good answered so before doing more advanced searches figured I’d check with the list.
Al
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Re: What is your first version of Jaws
HH. Smith Jr.
I think, I started with 3.7 and those nicely packed diskettes in a nice
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"looking" book with the cassettes.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 9:34 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws actually, I started with the vert Plus back in the early 80s. then in 94 moved on using JAWS For Dos and subsequently with JAWS for Windows with Windows 3.11. -------- Original Message -------- From: Bob Hicks [mailto:bob@...] Sent: Thursday, Nov 1, 2018 9:04 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: What is your first version of Jaws Concerning old buzzards, I started with speech emulation on a TI 99/4A, then Screentalk from Malcom Holzer, then WE Fergusin enterprizes in South Dakota and then UI came to work here where they had JFW 3.1, so I maintained both screen readers for a while, but .... Have a great day, 73 Bob Hicks, KC8CR Windows 7 and 10 home 64 bit -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristbal Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 1:07 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws Geez. I almost feel like a millennial. v3.7U. Some of you guys are old turkey buzzards. On Oct 31, 2018, at 9:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote: Hey Ward, For me it was also Jaws for DOS back in September or October of 1989. I then had Jaws for Windows from the first release in the early 90's with Windows 3.1, then 3.11 and of course with Windows 95, 98 and 98SE things really started getting more serious. Sounds like we have most of these young guys on the list beat, but let's see, what is your Jaws serial number? I have serial number 1056 and that has been my serial number for the last almost 30 years. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ward Dudley Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 7:46 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws Jaws for DOS. Ward On 10/31/2018 5:30 PM, Larry Gassman wrote: I don't remember the exact version but it was 1997. So it had to be around 2. something. Larry At 03:17 PM 10/31/2018, you wrote: I started with JAWS 3.1. Maria Campbell <mailto:lucky1inct@...>lucky1inct@... Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. ~ Blaise Pascal ~ On 10/31/2018 6:15 PM, Michael Munn wrote: Man! You'all had been using Jaws for a long time. I had been using Jaws for only 2 years. My first Jaws version was Jaws17. I learned my command from other screen reader. You know that all screen reader have the same element. T for table H for heading and B for button... I was a former Window-eyes user for couple months. "If a person must be blind, it is better to be blind in Iowa than anywhere else in the nation or in the world." Harold Russell, Des Moines 1968 Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind Student Delegate: Virginia Association of Blind Student Student of: Hadley Institute for the Blind <http://www.hadley.edu>www.hadley.edu Email address: <mailto:michaelrbms@...>michaelrbms@... On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 5:05 PM David Moore <<mailto:jesusloves1966@...>jesusloves1966@...> wrote: My first version of JAWS was 3.7. I began using that version when I went back to Ohio State University in 2002! David Moore Sent from <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>Mail for Windows 10 From: <mailto:northstarr1950@...>ratshtron Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:59 PM To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws hmmm, my first jaws was 2.0. Legend has it that on Wednesday 10/31/2018 03:47 PM, Michael Munn said: ---------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- .
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Re: What is your first version of Jaws
Mario
actually, I started with the vert Plus back in the early 80s. then in 94
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moved on using JAWS For Dos and subsequently with JAWS for Windows with Windows 3.11.
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From: Bob Hicks [mailto:bob@...] Sent: Thursday, Nov 1, 2018 9:04 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: What is your first version of Jaws Concerning old buzzards, I started with speech emulation on a TI 99/4A, then Screentalk from Malcom Holzer, then WE Fergusin enterprizes in South Dakota and then UI came to work here where they had JFW 3.1, so I maintained both screen readers for a while, but .... Have a great day, 73 Bob Hicks, KC8CR Windows 7 and 10 home 64 bit -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 1:07 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws Geez. I almost feel like a millennial. v3.7U. Some of you guys are old turkey buzzards. On Oct 31, 2018, at 9:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote: Hey Ward, For me it was also Jaws for DOS back in September or October of 1989. I then had Jaws for Windows from the first release in the early 90's with Windows 3.1, then 3.11 and of course with Windows 95, 98 and 98SE things really started getting more serious. Sounds like we have most of these young guys on the list beat, but let's see, what is your Jaws serial number? I have serial number 1056 and that has been my serial number for the last almost 30 years. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ward Dudley Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 7:46 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws Jaws for DOS. Ward On 10/31/2018 5:30 PM, Larry Gassman wrote: I don't remember the exact version but it was 1997. So it had to be around 2. something. Larry At 03:17 PM 10/31/2018, you wrote: I started with JAWS 3.1. Maria Campbell <mailto:lucky1inct@...>lucky1inct@... Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. ~ Blaise Pascal ~ On 10/31/2018 6:15 PM, Michael Munn wrote: Man! You'all had been using Jaws for a long time. I had been using Jaws for only 2 years. My first Jaws version was Jaws17. I learned my command from other screen reader. You know that all screen reader have the same element. T for table H for heading and B for button... I was a former Window-eyes user for couple months. "If a person must be blind, it is better to be blind in Iowa than anywhere else in the nation or in the world." Harold Russell, Des Moines 1968 Michael Munn Member: Virginia Association of Blind Student Delegate:  Virginia Association of Blind Student Student of: Hadley Institute for the Blind <http://www.hadley.edu>www.hadley.edu Email address: <mailto:michaelrbms@...>michaelrbms@... On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 5:05 PM David Moore <<mailto:jesusloves1966@...>jesusloves1966@...> wrote: My first version of JAWS was 3.7. I began using that version when I went back to Ohio State University in 2002! David Moore Sent from <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>Mail for Windows 10  From: <mailto:northstarr1950@...>ratshtron Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:59 PM To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws  hmmm, my first jaws was 2.0.    Legend has it that on Wednesday 10/31/2018 03:47 PM, Michael Munn said: ----------------------------------------  ----------------------------------------      .
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Re: What is your first version of Jaws
Bob Hicks
You know, I think when I started using JFW, they also included Jaws for DOS at no charge. I remember calling when it was still Henter Joyce and Ted answering the telephone. Those were the days!
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Have a great day, 73 Bob Hicks, KC8CR Windows 7 and 10 home 64 bit
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ward Dudley Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 10:46 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws Jaws for DOS. Ward On 10/31/2018 5:30 PM, Larry Gassman wrote: I don't remember the exact version but it was 1997. So it had to be
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Re: What is your first version of Jaws
Bob Hicks
With 48264 I am way behind!
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Have a great day, 73 Bob Hicks, KC8CR Windows 7 and 10 home 64 bit
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 12:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws Hey Ward, For me it was also Jaws for DOS back in September or October of 1989. I then had Jaws for Windows from the first release in the early 90's with Windows 3.1, then 3.11 and of course with Windows 95, 98 and 98SE things really started getting more serious. Sounds like we have most of these young guys on the list beat, but let's see, what is your Jaws serial number? I have serial number 1056 and that has been my serial number for the last almost 30 years. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ward Dudley Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 7:46 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws Jaws for DOS. Ward On 10/31/2018 5:30 PM, Larry Gassman wrote: I don't remember the exact version but it was 1997. So it had to be
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Re: What is your first version of Jaws
Bob Hicks
Concerning old buzzards, I started with speech emulation on a TI 99/4A, then Screentalk from Malcom Holzer, then WE Fergusin enterprizes in South Dakota and then UI came to work here where they had JFW 3.1, so I maintained both screen readers for a while, but ....
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Have a great day, 73 Bob Hicks, KC8CR Windows 7 and 10 home 64 bit
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 1:07 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: What is your first version of Jaws Geez. I almost feel like a millennial. v3.7U. Some of you guys are old turkey buzzards. On Oct 31, 2018, at 9:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:
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Re: new versions of jaws
dennis
i don't know if this matters but
there was a version 3 of the beta. maybe you have to have had
that... just go download the update if you wan't it. On 11/1/2018 7:56 AM, Kevin Meyers
wrote:
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