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Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Tom Behler
 

I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

I was told that you can go into settings and make the needed changes
somehow, but I don't know if that is correct, and don't have a clue how to
do it.

I appreciate everyone's patience.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rob Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 9:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


Rob Whyte
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Tue, Wed JAWS 2018 certified

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Behler
[tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10
as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10
computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7
configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows
10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to
accomplish this?

I hope this isn't considered too "off topic", but I can say that I'll be
using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Re: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Rob Whyte <rob.whyte@...>
 

Are you referring to classic shell from classicshell.net ?


Rob Whyte
Assistive Technology | Specialist Services | VisAbility
Work days: Mon, Tue, Wed
JAWS 2018 certified

PO Box 82 North Hobart TAS 7002
62 Invermay Road, Launceston TAS 7248
164 Elizabeth Street, Hobart TAS 7000

T: 03 6232 1248 | F: 03 6232 1221
M: 0429 366 589
E: mailto:rob.whyte@visability.com.au



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From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Tom Behler [tombehler@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2018 12:48 PM
To: 'jfw list'
Subject: Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Hello, everyone.

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10 as its operating system.

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10 computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7 configuration.

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows 10 much easier.

Can someone tell me if this is true; and if it is, can you tell me how to accomplish this?

I hope this isn’t considered too “off topic”, but I can say that I’ll be using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




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Switching To Classic View In Windows 10 for Windows 7-type View

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

 

I am about to purchase a new laptop, which, of course, will have Windows 10 as its operating system.

 

I have heard from several sources that you can configure a Windows 10 computer to have a classic view, which resembles the Windows 7 configuration.

 

This sounds quite appealing to me, since it will make the switch to Windows 10 much easier.

 

Can someone tell me if this is true;  and if it is, can you tell me how to accomplish this?

 

I hope this isn’t considered too “off topic”, but I can say that I’ll be using the latest build of Jaws 2018 on the new Windows 10 machine.

 

Thank you!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 


Re: Thunderbird and Attachments List on Outgoing Messages

Hope Williamson <isepic@...>
 

Hi, I haven’t used Thunderbird with JAWS for a while now since I’ve been using NVDA. Although what I used to do, and still do just to make sure everything got attached, is to go into the sent folder and open the message. Sometimes you don’t even have to open it, and it will tell you that there are attachments.


Re: Accessing html source code with JAWS in internet explorer

Kevin Meyers <kevinmeyers@...>
 

Ann,

Do you create web sites using HTML? If so what do you use to code the HTML?

Cheers,

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing html source code with JAWS in internet explorer

While on the web page, press alt+v, then c; arrow down past the search box
and press enter on open.

If you want to create .html code, open your document in notepad and fill in
controls from there.

Good luck!
t 12:50 PM 10/16/2018, you wrote:
Hi Joe. Have you tried pressing F12? When done viewing, you will have
to press F12 again. I think this will give you what you're looking for.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe DiNero
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:54 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Accessing html source code with JAWS

Good Morning Everyone,

Hope everyone is having a good day so far. I have not had the need to
look at html source code in an extremely long time and now find the
need again. I went to the view menu in Internet Explorer and entered on
source and JAWS went silent. Am I doing something wrong?
Can you not access the source code with JAWS in IE anymore? If not what
is an alternative route to take.

Thanks
Joe

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Re: difficulty uploading large file

Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

Thanks to those who replied to my query about a rar upload problem.

 

I have also uploaded to a  free file transfer site

Wetransfer.com

which resulted in the same problem so it looks like the fault is at my end.

 

Will investigate further.

 

Cheers

Tom

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: October 23, 2018 12:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: difficulty uploading large file

 

Hi,

 

Using latest Filezilla,I am attempting to upload a fairly large rar file to an FTP site and although the file test extracts  on my system without errors, it will not extract at the other end.  This has been attempted numerous times with the same result.

 

Does anyone know if this is because of the rar format being used or some other problem. What if the zip or some other format was used instead.

 

Failing that, how  can I use one of the sites where a file can be uploaded   and then downloaded by another person? Although I have used one of these sites to download a file, I know nothing about uploading a file and making it available for another person.

 

Thanks

Tom

 

 


tab reader scripts

pmbeardy@...
 

Hi, just wondering if ppl are interested in adding to these scripts originally written by George Calvert. if interested write me off list. thanks  


Thunderbird and Attachments List on Outgoing Messages

 

I'm working with a client using JAWS 2018 and the latest version of Thunderbird.  When we attach files to a message, then later go back to review the actual files attached in the list that's part of the message compose window, the file names simply do not read.  Does anyone else experience this?

It's particularly unhelpful when you want to make sure that you've attached file X or Y to not have the screen reader identify the files as you traverse the list.
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Re: signing in after start up

Chris
 

Yes hit apply then you be prompted for your login details

 

 

From: Marty Hutchings
Sent: 24 October 2018 21:26
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: signing in after start up

 

In step 3, there is a Apply button.  Do we need to press it?  As you tab, it is after the OK button.

 

Love in Christ
Marty

 

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 2:47 PM

Subject: Re: signing in after start up

 

4. you will then be prompted for your login details before you can close the below dialog, just enter your username and password and click ok

 

 

From: david
Sent: 24 October 2018 19:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: signing in after start up

 

hello;

if you absolutely don't want to sign in when you bootup your computer,

you can do the following to have the computer boot directly to the desktop.

 

 

once your computer has booted up to the desktop,

 

1, windows-key+r=run,

2, type in:  netplwiz press enter,

 

3, you should see this text,

Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer.

check box checked,

you need to uncheck this box.

now you need to go to ok button.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:01 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: signing in after start up

 

Hi!

 

Can anyone tell me if you have to log in every time you start up your

pc, or is there away you can avoid doing so?

 

Also, can you still get the jingle on the start up menue?

 

Nice to be back on the list with everyone.

 

 

Val Paul.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: signing in after start up

Marty Hutchings
 

In step 3, there is a Apply button.  Do we need to press it?  As you tab, it is after the OK button.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
 

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: signing in after start up
 

4. you will then be prompted for your login details before you can close the below dialog, just enter your username and password and click ok

 

 

From: david
Sent: 24 October 2018 19:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: signing in after start up

 

hello;

if you absolutely don't want to sign in when you bootup your computer,

you can do the following to have the computer boot directly to the desktop.

 

 

once your computer has booted up to the desktop,

 

1, windows-key+r=run,

2, type in:  netplwiz press enter,

 

3, you should see this text,

Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer.

check box checked,

you need to uncheck this box.

now you need to go to ok button.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:01 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: signing in after start up

 

Hi!

 

Can anyone tell me if you have to log in every time you start up your

pc, or is there away you can avoid doing so?

 

Also, can you still get the jingle on the start up menue?

 

Nice to be back on the list with everyone.

 

 

Val Paul.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: signing in after start up

Chris
 

4. you will then be prompted for your login details before you can close the below dialog, just enter your username and password and click ok

 

 

From: david
Sent: 24 October 2018 19:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: signing in after start up

 

hello;

if you absolutely don't want to sign in when you bootup your computer,

you can do the following to have the computer boot directly to the desktop.

 

 

once your computer has booted up to the desktop,

 

1, windows-key+r=run,

2, type in:  netplwiz press enter,

 

3, you should see this text,

Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer.

check box checked,

you need to uncheck this box.

now you need to go to ok button.

 

 

       The impossible is the untried,  Never under estimate the power of a dream.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:01 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: signing in after start up

 

Hi!

 

Can anyone tell me if you have to log in every time you start up your

pc, or is there away you can avoid doing so?

 

Also, can you still get the jingle on the start up menue?

 

Nice to be back on the list with everyone.

 

 

Val Paul.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: signing in after start up

david
 

hello;
if you absolutely don't want to sign in when you bootup your computer,
you can do the following to have the computer boot directly to the desktop.


once your computer has booted up to the desktop,

1, windows-key+r=run,
2, type in: netplwiz press enter,

3, you should see this text,
Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer.
check box checked,
you need to uncheck this box.
now you need to go to ok button.


The impossible is the untried, Never under estimate the power of a dream.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: signing in after start up

Hi!

Can anyone tell me if you have to log in every time you start up your
pc, or is there away you can avoid doing so?

Also, can you still get the jingle on the start up menue?

Nice to be back on the list with everyone.


Val Paul.


Re: New Winamp beta on winamp.com

Mario
 

Brian, Winamp5.66, to uninstall or not necessary?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, Oct 20, 2018 10:41 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: New Winamp beta on winamp.com

There have been a couple of reports of folks having issues installing
the Winamp 5.8 beta that's currently available for download at Winamp's
site.  I had no issues at all.

I used NVDA during the install, and I have Unchecky on my system which
runs Win10 Home, 64-bit, Version 1809 [yes, I got an early update that
worked], Build 17763.  Here is what I encountered after the initial UAC
dialog when launching the Winamp installer:

Dialog 1:  Opening Dialog, just hit the Next button

Dialog 2:  Install type (Standard versus Custom).  Unchecky, if you're
using it, switches any installer that gives standard and custom options
to custom, since if there is bundled software the only way it will be
exposed for a user to choose or decline is with a custom install.  In
the case of Winamp I can report that there is no bundled software, so if
you wish to choose the standard install you should be safe.  That being
said, you will probably not get the next dialog for choosing components
you wish to install, so if you wish to pick and choose, keep/choose the
custom option.  I proceeded with Custom.  Next button.

Dialog 3:  Install Location.  Uses the Program Files (x86) Winamp
folder, which is precisely as expected.  Next button.

Dialog 4:  Choose Components.  Defaults to Full with all skins,
visualizations, etc.  There are three other options to choose from, and
no matter which you choose the component tree changes to indicate via
checkboxes what components are/are not installed with that option.  You
can customize any of them.  I just went with Full.  Next button.

Dialog 5:  Choose Start Options.  Has three checkboxes:  Start Menu
Entry, Quick Launch Icon, Desktop Icon.
                Next button

Dialog 6:  This is the last true Winamp dialog, however, you will get
another UAC dialog right after you launch Winamp for the first time just
like you do when you launch the installer.  The only thing on this
dialog is a checkbox asking if you want to launch Winamp when finished
and the close (or maybe it was finish) button.

NOTE:  If using NVDA, pay attention to the rising beep indicator to
determine when the install is actually complete.  The Winamp installer
exposes each and every item during the install to NVDA, so it keeps
reading and reading and reading well after Dialog 6 above has been
presented and I have no idea how long this might keep going on as I
stopped it about 30 seconds or so after I saw that the install had
completed (and it did complete when the beep indicator tells you it did).
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  *If you remove all the homosexuals and homosexual influences from
what is generally regarded as American culture, you are pretty much left
with Let's Make a Deal.*

          ~ Fran Lebowitz


Re: signing in after start up

Jason White
 

My laptop has a fingerprint sensor, so all I have to do is to touch the sensor at the sign-in dialog - no typing of a password required, and security is maintained.

On 10/24/18, 08:51, "Richard Turner" <main@jfw.groups.io on behalf of richardturner42@outlook.com> wrote:

Hi,
It is not recommended to turn off the sign in because it leaves your system completely open to anyone who might access your computer. As I recall you are on Windows 10, if so, tap the Windows key, type account and hit enter.
Arrow down to sign in options (I think it is called) and you can change things in there.

You can turn on the Windows startup sound in the Sound schemes. I think there is something about Fast Startup skipping the sound but I don't recall those steps right now. Not enough coffee this morning, grin.

Richard

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: signing in after start up

Hi!

Can anyone tell me if you have to log in every time you start up your pc, or is there away you can avoid doing so?

Also, can you still get the jingle on the start up menue?

Nice to be back on the list with everyone.


Val Paul.


Re: signing in after start up

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Val. You can still get the Startup music. It depends how your computer was set up. If you have a local Windows account, it is very easy to remove the password so you don't need to log in every time the computer starts. If you have an account which was set up to log in with Microsoft, it is more difficult.

Did you give up the Mac, Val?

Nice to hear from you again.

Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: signing in after start up

Hi!

Can anyone tell me if you have to log in every time you start up your
pc, or is there away you can avoid doing so?

Also, can you still get the jingle on the start up menue?

Nice to be back on the list with everyone.


Val Paul.


Re: signing in after start up

Richard Turner
 

Hi,
It is not recommended to turn off the sign in because it leaves your system completely open to anyone who might access your computer. As I recall you are on Windows 10, if so, tap the Windows key, type account and hit enter.
Arrow down to sign in options (I think it is called) and you can change things in there.

You can turn on the Windows startup sound in the Sound schemes. I think there is something about Fast Startup skipping the sound but I don't recall those steps right now. Not enough coffee this morning, grin.

Richard

“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Paul
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: signing in after start up

Hi!

Can anyone tell me if you have to log in every time you start up your pc, or is there away you can avoid doing so?

Also, can you still get the jingle on the start up menue?

Nice to be back on the list with everyone.


Val Paul.


signing in after start up

Val Paul
 

Hi!

Can anyone tell me if you have to log in every time you start up your pc, or is there away you can avoid doing so?

Also, can you still get the jingle on the start up menue?

Nice to be back on the list with everyone.


Val Paul.


Re: Quieting JAWS for defined text string

Mario
 

you can use the dictionary manager to replace a certain string of text
with what ever you want JAWS to announce in stead of that string of text.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Groups.Io
[mailto:kramlinger.keith=mayo.edu@groups.io]
Sent: Tuesday, Oct 23, 2018 2:21 PM EST
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Quieting JAWS for defined text string

Hi,

I have forgotten how to tell JAWS how to skip over a string of text that
I don’t want to hear all the time. Can someone please refresh my memory?

Thanks in advance. Keith


Re: difficulty uploading large file

Marty Hutchings
 

I don’t know what a rar file is, but have you tried Dropbox?
 
Love in Christ
Marty
 

From: Tom
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 11:02 PM
Subject: difficulty uploading large file
 

Hi,

 

Using latest Filezilla,I am attempting to upload a fairly large rar file to an FTP site and although the file test extracts  on my system without errors, it will not extract at the other end.  This has been attempted numerous times with the same result.

 

Does anyone know if this is because of the rar format being used or some other problem. What if the zip or some other format was used instead.

 

Failing that, how  can I use one of the sites where a file can be uploaded   and then downloaded by another person? Although I have used one of these sites to download a file, I know nothing about uploading a file and making it available for another person.

 

Thanks

Tom

 

 


Re: difficulty uploading large file

Jason White
 

I would suggest verifying the md5 or SHA-256 hashes once the file is transferred to the remote end.

https://www.maketecheasier.com/verify-md5-sha-1-sha-256-checksum-windows10/

If they don’t match, something went wrong with the data transfer.

 

From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Reply-To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 14:23
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: difficulty uploading large file

 

Hm, how large is the file?

Somehow I doubt this is a problem with Filezilla.

Have you tried on more than one ftp site?

Might be a problem on the remote end, since the file extracts fine on yours.

 

I personally use sendspace, but it is slow, for uploading large files especially. It’s a pain but I have a paid account and basically unlimited storage.

Many people use dropbox today and I’m sure someone could give you pointers about that if that’s what you need.

But FTP is pretty tried and true, you know?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: October 23, 2018 12:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: difficulty uploading large file

 

Hi,

 

Using latest Filezilla,I am attempting to upload a fairly large rar file to an FTP site and although the file test extracts  on my system without errors, it will not extract at the other end.  This has been attempted numerous times with the same result.

 

Does anyone know if this is because of the rar format being used or some other problem. What if the zip or some other format was used instead.

Failing that, how  can I use one of the sites where a file can be uploaded   and then downloaded by another person? Although I have used one of these sites to download a file, I know nothing about uploading a file and making it available for another person.

 

Thanks

Tom