On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Well, he will have to learn where to find it or remember the shortcut
keys, column width is Alt+H followed by O and W Also, I believe there are ways to add things to the context menu with various ttweaks, you'd have to Google this, but I'm almost certain I read there is a way to add things to the context menu.
I found it took a bit to get used to Office 2013 and later 2016 which isn't so different, but it was quite a change from Office 2010, but you can't stay on 2010 forever so one might as well deal with it.

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Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 8:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365 Excel 2016 and Jaws 2018 Issues

He uses Excel, Outlook, and Word primarily. The ribbon is in Excel 2010. He reports the column width is no longer in the context menu in Excel 2016.

On Oct 16, 2018, at 10:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

What other applications do you or your employee need to use? If it's primarily Office then upgrading to Windows 10 is fine, it is very stabil and Office works well.
I know you mentioned he can't change the width of columns and so on, if he came from Excel 2010, are you sure he knows how to do it, if I remember correctly, didn't Excel 2010 still use menus or di dit have ribbon menus already?
If he has to use older applications and if he uses the Jaws cursor a lot there is a good chance he will lose that in Windows 10.

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Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 7:29 PM
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Subject: Re: Office 365 Excel 2016 and Jaws 2018 Issues

I will attempt an Office repair. As for Windows 10, do others find better Jaws 2018/Excel 2016(Office 365) stability under Windows 10 rather than Windows 7? Are there any adjustments that I can make in Jaws or Excel to make them work better under Windows 7?

Thank you,

Brian

On Oct 15, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Brian Prewitt <bprewitt@...> wrote:

I have reported it. They tell me to do an Office repair and/or move to Windows 10.

On Oct 15, 2018, at 9:12 PM, Alyssa <lyssassong@...> wrote:

Contact FS, and report this. I also have issues with JAWS 2018 and Office 365. Mine are with Word. I cannot properly read information in tables, so I can see how this would transfer over to Excel.

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Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 10:05 PM
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Subject: Office 365 Excel 2016 and Jaws 2018 Issues

Hi List,

One of my executives is having quite a few issues with Jaws 2018 and Office 365 Excel 2016, the latest build of both under Windows 7. So much so that I have installed excel 2010 on his computer in order for him to get work done. He is reporting the following issues. Jaws becomes silent when saving files, formulas aren’t read to him, he will lose an hour of work randomly, he can’t widen columns, add new sheets, rename sheets, etc. All of these things and others I may not have mentioned he can do in Excel 2010. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Brian

Ok I see this one, can you send your script?


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Jonas, it's the ReadLineNumber script in Exercise 6.2.
Thanks, Brian. I'll look at Freelists.

On 10/22/18, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Dani,

Yes, but not on Groups.io. The only JAWS Scripting
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Ok I see this one, can you send your script?


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Jonas, it's the ReadLineNumber script in Exercise 6.2.
Thanks, Brian. I'll look at Freelists.

On 10/22/18, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Dani,

Yes, but not on Groups.io. The only JAWS Scripting
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There is a Google chrome extension called  disable download bar that seems to do the trick. With one of the recent builds of chrome there is a visual bar at the bottom that stays active when doing downloads and it shows the progress bar and that’s what JAWS  is reading. Fortunately, I had the assistance of my sighted   wife who told me about this feature and we discovered this extension which removes that download bar and stops jaws from giving progress announcements when you are downloading.

Hi,

 

Thanks Bill, I’ll see if I can use a similar technique in chrome to stop the download  progress being spoken. Its handy to know for IE though, since occasionally I do get it in IE too where it speaks download progress, but its not all the time, next time it does though I’ll try your trick. Thanks again.

 

Paul

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 11 October 2018 16:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stopping chrome speaking remaining download time

 

Hi, Paul. I don’t use chrome. Even with Internet Explorer, there have been times where I have gotten download percentages. I don’t know if Chrome works this way, but the way I stopped download percentages in IE is to press ALT plus N for the info bar, then cycle through the options with Tab. Once I do that, I stop hearing the progress.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of paul lemm
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stopping chrome speaking remaining download time

 

Morning Bill,

 

Thanks for the suggestion, unfortunately I still need to use jaws in other programs whilst its downloading, so turning off the speech isn’t really an option for  me. thanks for the suggestion though, I think I’ll just have to revert to downloading  really big files through IE, since that doesn’t give me the progress updates. Its not a big deal to  have to do it this way, I  just thought I’d ask in case there was a way of shutting it off in chrome.

 

Paul

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 10 October 2018 22:51
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stopping chrome speaking remaining download time

 

Hi, Paul. I think the only way to stop the announcements is to turn off JAWS speech with INSERT plus SPACE, followed by S.

 

For this to work, you must go into your default configuration file for JAWS, and turn Less Speech options from Speech On Demand to Mute Speech.

 

Bill White

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of paul lemm
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 2:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stopping chrome speaking remaining download time

 

Hi,

 

I tried the jaws quick settings for chrome with jaws key and V,  I managed to find the  progress bar  option, I’ve changed it to silent , but I’m still getting the ‘alert downloading, 2 hours left’ message. Thanks for the idea none the less, any other suggestions that might stop the announcements?

 

Paul

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: 10 October 2018 21:39
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stopping chrome speaking remaining download time

 

When in Chrome, do Insert V to open the JAWS settings for Chrome. Near the bottom of the tree view, you’ll find the progress bar verbosity settings.   You can either turn them off or I think you can change how often they let you know of the progress.

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of paul lemm
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 1:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: stopping chrome speaking remaining download time

 

hi,

 

wondering if anyone can help, I use chrome  as my main web browser , but when I download files  every minute                 or there about jaws updates me on the download progress, this isn’t a problem for small files, but if I want to download something that will take an hour or two constantly getting the download update gets a little annoying.  Is there any setting I can alter to stop jaws constantly reading the download progress?

 

Paul

 

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Dani,

            Yes, but not on Groups.io.   The only JAWS Scripting E-mail List
I know of can be found here:  https://www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
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Make a Deal.*

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Hi,

 

Thanks Bill, I’ll see if I can use a similar technique in chrome to stop the download  progress being spoken. Its handy to know for IE though, since occasionally I do get it in IE too where it speaks download progress, but its not all the time, next time it does though I’ll try your trick. Thanks again.

 

Paul

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 11 October 2018 16:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stopping chrome speaking remaining download time

 

Hi, Paul. I don’t use chrome. Even with Internet Explorer, there have been times where I have gotten download percentages. I don’t know if Chrome works this way, but the way I stopped download percentages in IE is to press ALT plus N for the info bar, then cycle through the options with Tab. Once I do that, I stop hearing the progress.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of paul lemm
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 3:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stopping chrome speaking remaining download time

 

Morning Bill,

 

Thanks for the suggestion, unfortunately I still need to use jaws in other programs whilst its downloading, so turning off the speech isn’t really an option for  me. thanks for the suggestion though, I think I’ll just have to revert to downloading  really big files through IE, since that doesn’t give me the progress updates. Its not a big deal to  have to do it this way, I  just thought I’d ask in case there was a way of shutting it off in chrome.

 

Paul

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 10 October 2018 22:51
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stopping chrome speaking remaining download time

 

Hi, Paul. I think the only way to stop the announcements is to turn off JAWS speech with INSERT plus SPACE, followed by S.

 

For this to work, you must go into your default configuration file for JAWS, and turn Less Speech options from Speech On Demand to Mute Speech.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of paul lemm
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 2:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stopping chrome speaking remaining download time

 

Hi,

 

I tried the jaws quick settings for chrome with jaws key and V,  I managed to find the  progress bar  option, I’ve changed it to silent , but I’m still getting the ‘alert downloading, 2 hours left’ message. Thanks for the idea none the less, any other suggestions that might stop the announcements?

 

Paul

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: 10 October 2018 21:39
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: stopping chrome speaking remaining download time

 

When in Chrome, do Insert V to open the JAWS settings for Chrome. Near the bottom of the tree view, you’ll find the progress bar verbosity settings.   You can either turn them off or I think you can change how often they let you know of the progress.

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of paul lemm
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 1:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: stopping chrome speaking remaining download time

 

hi,

 

wondering if anyone can help, I use chrome  as my main web browser , but when I download files  every minute                 or there about jaws updates me on the download progress, this isn’t a problem for small files, but if I want to download something that will take an hour or two constantly getting the download update gets a little annoying.  Is there any setting I can alter to stop jaws constantly reading the download progress?

 

Paul

 

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I thought someone said a key stroke of control U corrected this
problem. Is this correct or was some other key stroke?

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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 8:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel: unable to edit a cell using f2

Hmmm, I haven't changed any settings from the default and it is working
here fine, at least with the latest beta, I haven't tried anything
else.




On 10/19/2018 06:29, Ann Byrne wrote:

Office 2016, JAWS 2018.180.10 and 2019, windows 10 build 1803.

Pressing f2 to edit a cell, I can hear the cell content but cannot
navigate using the arrow keys. Is there a setting to make this

Thanks,

It’s more likely to be a JAWS and MS-Word issue than disk corruption. Better performance with large documents was noted, as I recall, in the changes introduced in JAWS 2019.

Right!  OK, I’ll give this a try!  Thanks!

Hello.

Yes, ssd's are divided into sectors and they can have errors.  These errs have different causes, but they can still happen.  Usually a file system error is caused by windows doing something it shouldn't have.  My last fight with a file system error happened on the ssd of this machine. 

Hi Chris!

 

Huh, this is interesting.  Well, my c: drive is a solid state drive (SSD).  Does error checking appertain to an SSD as it does as regards a hard disk drive (HDD)?  Does an SSD have “sectors” as does an HDD?

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 6:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: NS Word and JAWS Becoming Sluggish with Large File

 

Hello.

 

 I used a similar setup for many years with one document that is currently near 400 pages without a problem.  First thing I'd do in your situation is to scan your disk for errors, even if windows says it is fine make it scan anyway.  I've found an epidemic of disk errors on my machines lately, fixing them usually improves the speed.  Open up this pc, get properties on your c: drive, go to tools and run error checking on your drive.

 

 

 

On 10/20/2018 03:10, Richard B. McDonald wrote:

Hi!

 

I use MS Word 2007.  As I have begun working with a Word file that is becoming large (e.g., 20+ pages), JAWS seems to be getting increasingly sluggish and mixed-up.  Has anyone seen this before?  Might upgrading to a newer version of Word (really, MS Office) improve this; say like MS Office 2016 or even MS Office 2019?  I am not interested in MS Office 365 because I do not want to be cloud-based.  My system is Windows 7 Pro running JAWS 15, both 64 bit.  My computer is a Pentium i5 with 8 GB of RAN and >91 GB of free disk space on a 256 GB SSD.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 02:34 PM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) wrote:

Thanks, any idea where I can get it from please?

Already answered earlier in the posts:  https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/message/63815 (topic starter) and  https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/message/63824  

I even made it easier, so that one does not have to drill down through a couple of layers at https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree 
 
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I thought someone said a key stroke of control U corrected this problem. Is this correct or was some other key stroke?

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 8:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel: unable to edit a cell using f2

Hmmm, I haven't changed any settings from the default and it is working here fine, at least with the latest beta, I haven't tried anything else.




On 10/19/2018 06:29, Ann Byrne wrote:

Office 2016, JAWS 2018.180.10 and 2019, windows 10 build 1803.

Pressing f2 to edit a cell, I can hear the cell content but cannot
navigate using the arrow keys. Is there a setting to make this possible?
Thanks,

Office 2016, JAWS 2018.180.10 and 2019, windows 10 build 1803.

Pressing f2 to edit a cell, I can hear the cell content but cannot
navigate using the arrow keys. Is there a setting to make this possible?
Thanks,