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Re: Accessible VPN with JAWS

Don Mauck
 

 

 

From: Edward Green <ergreen1981@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible VPN with JAWS

 

Hi Joe,

 

Others may comment on the accessibility of VPN software, but with many VPN providers, it’s not necessary to use a client at all.  You can simply enter in the various usernames, passwords and server settings manually into Windows itself.  While it’s not for everyone, it’s no more complicated than configuring an email address manually in say Outlook, and you obviously have a wider range of providers (any that publish the necessary server addresses) as you aren’t restricted by the accessibility of their software.

 

I use Hide My Ass and like it, I have no idea bout the accessibility of its software though.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe I use Cisco Any Connect and it’s very good and easy to use.DiNero
Sent: 16 October 2018 21:30
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Accessible VPN with JAWS

 

Good Afternoon Folks,

 

At one of my two different jobs I am starting to feel that I need to be behind a VPN and quite honestly in this day and age of everyone tracking every step you take it might not be a bad thing as a whole for e. Having said that are there any accessible VPNs that anyone would recommend a friend of mine uses Express VPN however, he is not visually impaired so I have no idea about that particular one or not. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Joe

 

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Re: Tandem

Marianne Denning
 

Yes, you can do that. You would need to close the most current version of JAWS and open JAWS 18. When I have needed to do this I have made sure I have selected the version of JAWS I want on the desk top, shut down most current version of JAWS and hit enter to open the older version.


On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:35 PM David Pearson <dshawnpearson@...> wrote:
Hello again:

Thanks for this info, but since v18 still exists on my machine, and is same
version as one being used by "controller", isn't there a method whereby I
could open 18, and "tandem" via this method since  both versions would now
be equal?

Thank you,



DSP

-----Original Message-----
From: Marianne Denning
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 1:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tandem

Yes, that is true. The one who gives the code must have a jazz version that
is equal to or higher than the one who enters the code.
> On Oct 16, 2018, at 1:01 PM, David Pearson <dshawnpearson@...>
> wrote:
>
> Hello list:
>
> Is it true that when trying to use the Jaws "Tandem feature that the Jaws
> version of the controlled pc must be equal to, or lower than the version
> installed/used on the  controlling pc?
>
> I ask because yesterday, I was going to try Tandem with someone who had
> Jaws version18, and my(controlled) pc has latest version although v18
> still appears as one of the          programs listed under my start/Jaws
> menu key.
>
> This being the case, couldn't I enter on my 18 version and use this to
> enable the Tandem feature?
>
> If so, I need the step-by-step procedure to accomplish this.  I can only
> type with right hand, so would like to keep simultaneous key presses to a
> minimum.
>
> Sincerely yours,
>
>
>
> David S.Pearson
>
>
>
>









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Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053


Re: Accessible VPN with JAWS

Edward Green
 

Hi Joe,

 

Others may comment on the accessibility of VPN software, but with many VPN providers, it’s not necessary to use a client at all.  You can simply enter in the various usernames, passwords and server settings manually into Windows itself.  While it’s not for everyone, it’s no more complicated than configuring an email address manually in say Outlook, and you obviously have a wider range of providers (any that publish the necessary server addresses) as you aren’t restricted by the accessibility of their software.

 

I use Hide My Ass and like it, I have no idea bout the accessibility of its software though.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe DiNero
Sent: 16 October 2018 21:30
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Accessible VPN with JAWS

 

Good Afternoon Folks,

 

At one of my two different jobs I am starting to feel that I need to be behind a VPN and quite honestly in this day and age of everyone tracking every step you take it might not be a bad thing as a whole for e. Having said that are there any accessible VPNs that anyone would recommend a friend of mine uses Express VPN however, he is not visually impaired so I have no idea about that particular one or not. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Joe

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Tandem

David Pearson
 

Hello again:

Thanks for this info, but since v18 still exists on my machine, and is same version as one being used by "controller", isn't there a method whereby I could open 18, and "tandem" via this method since both versions would now be equal?

Thank you,



DSP

-----Original Message-----
From: Marianne Denning
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 1:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Tandem

Yes, that is true. The one who gives the code must have a jazz version that is equal to or higher than the one who enters the code.
On Oct 16, 2018, at 1:01 PM, David Pearson <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net> wrote:

Hello list:

Is it true that when trying to use the Jaws "Tandem feature that the Jaws version of the controlled pc must be equal to, or lower than the version installed/used on the controlling pc?

I ask because yesterday, I was going to try Tandem with someone who had Jaws version18, and my(controlled) pc has latest version although v18 still appears as one of the programs listed under my start/Jaws menu key.

This being the case, couldn't I enter on my 18 version and use this to enable the Tandem feature?

If so, I need the step-by-step procedure to accomplish this. I can only type with right hand, so would like to keep simultaneous key presses to a minimum.

Sincerely yours,



David S.Pearson




Accessible VPN with JAWS

Joe DiNero
 

Good Afternoon Folks,

 

At one of my two different jobs I am starting to feel that I need to be behind a VPN and quite honestly in this day and age of everyone tracking every step you take it might not be a bad thing as a whole for e. Having said that are there any accessible VPNs that anyone would recommend a friend of mine uses Express VPN however, he is not visually impaired so I have no idea about that particular one or not. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Joe


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Accessing html source code with JAWS

Joe DiNero
 

Am I supposed to just hit F12? Or once I go into the view menu and select source?

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 1:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessing html source code with JAWS

 

Hi Joe.  Have you tried pressing F12?  When done viewing, you will have to press F12 again.  I think this will give you what you’re looking for. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe DiNero
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:54 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Accessing html source code with JAWS

 

Good Morning Everyone,

 

Hope everyone is having a good day so far. I have not had the need to look at html source code in an extremely long time and now find the need again. I went to the view menu in Internet Explorer and entered on source and JAWS went silent. Am I doing something wrong? Can you not access the source code with JAWS in IE anymore? If not what is an alternative route to take.

 

Thanks

Joe

 

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Re: Free Windows 10 update

Marty Hutchings
 

Jeff,  Where do I find the Media Creation Tool?
 
Love in Christ
Marty
 

Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 update
 

Believe it or not you can use the MCT and update a Win 7, Win 8x to a genuine digital entitlement for that machine.

In other words the license servers are currently still automatically authorizing.

This is not the case should you try to use the GWX tool that annoyed so many way back when. Running this you will not be able to complete the upgrade.

I have most recently, three weeks, done this with a Win Seven Pro desktop and Win Seven home laptop, using the media creation tool and running the update.

 

Hth

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 8:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 update

 

FYI!

I think I got it, used Windows 8.1 key!

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 9:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 update

 

Ok, do you have a web page or more info about this, I think I did it but I cannot find my key and this is a clean install of Windows 10!

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 9:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 update

 

Hi, Jonas. We got a free update to Windows 10, but that expired quite a while back.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 7:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Free Windows 10 update

 

Hey are not Jaws or Windos eyes  users get a free update from erlyer versions of Windows to Windows 10?

Or was this just to Windows 8???

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

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Re: reading cell content in Excel with Braille

WILKINSON Julie
 

Hi Ann:
That's very interesting! I've certainly noticed some odd behavior with Braille and Jaws with Office 2016 and Win 10. But my display still shows me the formula of a cell in Excel. What display are you using? I've used Excel with both a Focus Blue and a Brilliant Bi and am able to read the cell formula and contents.
Julie

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reading cell content in Excel with Braille

Excel 2016, Jaws 2018 and 2019.

The amount in cell p6, calculated by a formula, is 101188. JAWS speaks this clearly, saying "101188, has formula." The Braille display, however, displays only "has formula". If I have JAWS set to speak cell contents and coordinates, p6 says "p 6", but not the content of the cell . Turning off the coordinates gives me 'has formula'. How do I make the display show me the stinkin' 101188 in the cell???







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Re: reading cell content in Excel with Braille

Ann Byrne
 

Thanks, Debbie.

changing to the settings you mentioned, cells without formulas now display correctly; With a formula in the cell, I still get 'has formula'. However, pressing insert+5 shows the number. Progress!!!

At 12:25 PM 10/16/2018, you wrote:
Hi Ann,

When I saw your message I thought I had the answer, but I am using Excel
2010 and you are using 2016, so I don't know if what I am going to say will
apply. My settings in JAWS 2018 have Braille mode as structured, and braille
mode "active cell." I looked at my settings using JAWSkey V. My display does
read the result of the formula. On this computer I am using a Focus 80.

Hope this helps some!

Debby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 7:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reading cell content in Excel with Braille

Excel 2016, Jaws 2018 and 2019.

The amount in cell p6, calculated by a formula, is 101188. JAWS
speaks this clearly, saying "101188, has formula." The Braille
display, however, displays only "has formula". If I have JAWS set to
speak cell contents and coordinates, p6 says "p 6", but not the
content of the cell
. Turning off the coordinates gives me 'has formula'. How do I make
the display show me the stinkin' 101188
in the cell???








Re: Tandem

Marianne Denning
 

Yes, that is true. The one who gives the code must have a jazz version that is equal to or higher than the one who enters the code.

On Oct 16, 2018, at 1:01 PM, David Pearson <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net> wrote:

Hello list:

Is it true that when trying to use the Jaws "Tandem feature that the Jaws version of the controlled pc must be equal to, or lower than the version installed/used on the controlling pc?

I ask because yesterday, I was going to try Tandem with someone who had Jaws version18, and my(controlled) pc has latest version although v18 still appears as one of the programs listed under my start/Jaws menu key.

This being the case, couldn't I enter on my 18 version and use this to enable the Tandem feature?

If so, I need the step-by-step procedure to accomplish this. I can only type with right hand, so would like to keep simultaneous key presses to a minimum.

Sincerely yours,



David S.Pearson




Re: Accessing html source code with JAWS

Michael Mote
 

Hi Joe.  Have you tried pressing F12?  When done viewing, you will have to press F12 again.  I think this will give you what you’re looking for. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe DiNero
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:54 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Accessing html source code with JAWS

 

Good Morning Everyone,

 

Hope everyone is having a good day so far. I have not had the need to look at html source code in an extremely long time and now find the need again. I went to the view menu in Internet Explorer and entered on source and JAWS went silent. Am I doing something wrong? Can you not access the source code with JAWS in IE anymore? If not what is an alternative route to take.

 

Thanks

Joe

 

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Re: Tandem

Michael Mote
 

Hi David. As long as you have the same version or later, you can connect
using JAWS Tandem. If you had an older version that the target computer,
you could not do this.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Pearson
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Tandem

Hello list:

Is it true that when trying to use the Jaws "Tandem feature that the Jaws
version of the controlled pc must be equal to, or lower than the version
installed/used on the controlling pc?

I ask because yesterday, I was going to try Tandem with someone who had Jaws
version18, and my(controlled) pc has latest version although v18 still
appears as one of the programs listed under my start/Jaws menu key.

This being the case, couldn't I enter on my 18 version and use this to
enable the Tandem feature?

If so, I need the step-by-step procedure to accomplish this. I can only
type with right hand, so would like to keep simultaneous key presses to a
minimum.

Sincerely yours,



David S.Pearson


Re: reading cell content in Excel with Braille

Debby Hill
 

Hi Ann,

When I saw your message I thought I had the answer, but I am using Excel
2010 and you are using 2016, so I don't know if what I am going to say will
apply. My settings in JAWS 2018 have Braille mode as structured, and braille
mode "active cell." I looked at my settings using JAWSkey V. My display does
read the result of the formula. On this computer I am using a Focus 80.

Hope this helps some!

Debby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 7:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: reading cell content in Excel with Braille

Excel 2016, Jaws 2018 and 2019.

The amount in cell p6, calculated by a formula, is 101188. JAWS
speaks this clearly, saying "101188, has formula." The Braille
display, however, displays only "has formula". If I have JAWS set to
speak cell contents and coordinates, p6 says "p 6", but not the
content of the cell
. Turning off the coordinates gives me 'has formula'. How do I make
the display show me the stinkin' 101188
in the cell???


Re: Free Windows 10 update

Jonas Voll
 

Yep, but this will only work if some of the old OS is on your drive!

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 update

 

Then the work around is to update the Win 7 box, and then roll back to Win 7 for as long as you want to continue using 7.

The machine will still be eligible for the digital entitlement when you are ready for 10 again.

Pain in the neck but not sure how else to make it work. I did not note the changes so I cannot answer your question directly.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 update

 

Jeff, did the physical key number change after?

I still have a Windows 7 box, I want to keep but an Windows 10 key for this box will be nice before it stopps working for free!

 

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 update

 

Believe it or not you can use the MCT and update a Win 7, Win 8x to a genuine digital entitlement for that machine.

In other words the license servers are currently still automatically authorizing.

This is not the case should you try to use the GWX tool that annoyed so many way back when. Running this you will not be able to complete the upgrade.

I have most recently, three weeks, done this with a Win Seven Pro desktop and Win Seven home laptop, using the media creation tool and running the update.

 

Hth

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 8:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 update

 

FYI!

I think I got it, used Windows 8.1 key!

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 9:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 update

 

Ok, do you have a web page or more info about this, I think I did it but I cannot find my key and this is a clean install of Windows 10!

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 9:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 update

 

Hi, Jonas. We got a free update to Windows 10, but that expired quite a while back.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 7:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Free Windows 10 update

 

Hey are not Jaws or Windos eyes  users get a free update from erlyer versions of Windows to Windows 10?

Or was this just to Windows 8???

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system.

 

 
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Tandem

David Pearson
 

Hello list:

Is it true that when trying to use the Jaws "Tandem feature that the Jaws version of the controlled pc must be equal to, or lower than the version installed/used on the controlling pc?

I ask because yesterday, I was going to try Tandem with someone who had Jaws version18, and my(controlled) pc has latest version although v18 still appears as one of the programs listed under my start/Jaws menu key.

This being the case, couldn't I enter on my 18 version and use this to enable the Tandem feature?

If so, I need the step-by-step procedure to accomplish this. I can only type with right hand, so would like to keep simultaneous key presses to a minimum.

Sincerely yours,



David S.Pearson


Re: Office 365 Excel 2016 and Jaws 2018 Issues

Brian Prewitt
 

I do agree that we will have to move to Excel 2016 sooner rather than later. So, it sounds like they have moved things from the context menu into the ribbon.

On Oct 16, 2018, at 11:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

Well, he will have to learn where to find it or remember the shortcut keys, column width is Alt+H followed by O and W
Also, I believe there are ways to add things to the context menu with various ttweaks, you'd have to Google this, but I'm almost certain I read there is a way to add things to the context menu.
I found it took a bit to get used to Office 2013 and later 2016 which isn't so different, but it was quite a change from Office 2010, but you can't stay on 2010 forever so one might as well deal with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Prewitt
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 8:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365 Excel 2016 and Jaws 2018 Issues

He uses Excel, Outlook, and Word primarily. The ribbon is in Excel 2010. He reports the column width is no longer in the context menu in Excel 2016.
On Oct 16, 2018, at 10:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

What other applications do you or your employee need to use? If it's primarily Office then upgrading to Windows 10 is fine, it is very stabil and Office works well.
I know you mentioned he can't change the width of columns and so on, if he came from Excel 2010, are you sure he knows how to do it, if I remember correctly, didn't Excel 2010 still use menus or di dit have ribbon menus already?
If he has to use older applications and if he uses the Jaws cursor a lot there is a good chance he will lose that in Windows 10.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Prewitt
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365 Excel 2016 and Jaws 2018 Issues

I will attempt an Office repair. As for Windows 10, do others find better Jaws 2018/Excel 2016(Office 365) stability under Windows 10 rather than Windows 7? Are there any adjustments that I can make in Jaws or Excel to make them work better under Windows 7?

Thank you,

Brian
On Oct 15, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Brian Prewitt <bprewitt@msblind.org> wrote:

I have reported it. They tell me to do an Office repair and/or move to Windows 10.
On Oct 15, 2018, at 9:12 PM, Alyssa <lyssassong@gmail.com> wrote:

Contact FS, and report this. I also have issues with JAWS 2018 and Office 365. Mine are with Word. I cannot properly read information in tables, so I can see how this would transfer over to Excel.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Prewitt
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 10:05 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Office 365 Excel 2016 and Jaws 2018 Issues

Hi List,

One of my executives is having quite a few issues with Jaws 2018 and Office 365 Excel 2016, the latest build of both under Windows 7. So much so that I have installed excel 2010 on his computer in order for him to get work done. He is reporting the following issues. Jaws becomes silent when saving files, formulas aren’t read to him, he will lose an hour of work randomly, he can’t widen columns, add new sheets, rename sheets, etc. All of these things and others I may not have mentioned he can do in Excel 2010. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Brian
















Re: Free Windows 10 update

Jeff Christiansen
 

Then the work around is to update the Win 7 box, and then roll back to Win 7 for as long as you want to continue using 7.

The machine will still be eligible for the digital entitlement when you are ready for 10 again.

Pain in the neck but not sure how else to make it work. I did not note the changes so I cannot answer your question directly.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 update

 

Jeff, did the physical key number change after?

I still have a Windows 7 box, I want to keep but an Windows 10 key for this box will be nice before it stopps working for free!

 

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 update

 

Believe it or not you can use the MCT and update a Win 7, Win 8x to a genuine digital entitlement for that machine.

In other words the license servers are currently still automatically authorizing.

This is not the case should you try to use the GWX tool that annoyed so many way back when. Running this you will not be able to complete the upgrade.

I have most recently, three weeks, done this with a Win Seven Pro desktop and Win Seven home laptop, using the media creation tool and running the update.

 

Hth

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 8:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 update

 

FYI!

I think I got it, used Windows 8.1 key!

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 9:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 update

 

Ok, do you have a web page or more info about this, I think I did it but I cannot find my key and this is a clean install of Windows 10!

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 9:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 update

 

Hi, Jonas. We got a free update to Windows 10, but that expired quite a while back.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 7:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Free Windows 10 update

 

Hey are not Jaws or Windos eyes  users get a free update from erlyer versions of Windows to Windows 10?

Or was this just to Windows 8???

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

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Re: Free Windows 10 update

Jonas Voll
 

Jeff, did the physical key number change after?

I still have a Windows 7 box, I want to keep but an Windows 10 key for this box will be nice before it stopps working for free!

 

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Christiansen
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 update

 

Believe it or not you can use the MCT and update a Win 7, Win 8x to a genuine digital entitlement for that machine.

In other words the license servers are currently still automatically authorizing.

This is not the case should you try to use the GWX tool that annoyed so many way back when. Running this you will not be able to complete the upgrade.

I have most recently, three weeks, done this with a Win Seven Pro desktop and Win Seven home laptop, using the media creation tool and running the update.

 

Hth

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 8:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 update

 

FYI!

I think I got it, used Windows 8.1 key!

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 9:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 update

 

Ok, do you have a web page or more info about this, I think I did it but I cannot find my key and this is a clean install of Windows 10!

 

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 9:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free Windows 10 update

 

Hi, Jonas. We got a free update to Windows 10, but that expired quite a while back.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 7:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Free Windows 10 update

 

Hey are not Jaws or Windos eyes  users get a free update from erlyer versions of Windows to Windows 10?

Or was this just to Windows 8???

 

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

 

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Re: Office 365 Excel 2016 and Jaws 2018 Issues

 

Well, he will have to learn where to find it or remember the shortcut keys, column width is Alt+H followed by O and W
Also, I believe there are ways to add things to the context menu with various ttweaks, you'd have to Google this, but I'm almost certain I read there is a way to add things to the context menu.
I found it took a bit to get used to Office 2013 and later 2016 which isn't so different, but it was quite a change from Office 2010, but you can't stay on 2010 forever so one might as well deal with it.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Prewitt
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 8:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365 Excel 2016 and Jaws 2018 Issues

He uses Excel, Outlook, and Word primarily. The ribbon is in Excel 2010. He reports the column width is no longer in the context menu in Excel 2016.
On Oct 16, 2018, at 10:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

What other applications do you or your employee need to use? If it's primarily Office then upgrading to Windows 10 is fine, it is very stabil and Office works well.
I know you mentioned he can't change the width of columns and so on, if he came from Excel 2010, are you sure he knows how to do it, if I remember correctly, didn't Excel 2010 still use menus or di dit have ribbon menus already?
If he has to use older applications and if he uses the Jaws cursor a lot there is a good chance he will lose that in Windows 10.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Prewitt
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 365 Excel 2016 and Jaws 2018 Issues

I will attempt an Office repair. As for Windows 10, do others find better Jaws 2018/Excel 2016(Office 365) stability under Windows 10 rather than Windows 7? Are there any adjustments that I can make in Jaws or Excel to make them work better under Windows 7?

Thank you,

Brian
On Oct 15, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Brian Prewitt <bprewitt@msblind.org> wrote:

I have reported it. They tell me to do an Office repair and/or move to Windows 10.
On Oct 15, 2018, at 9:12 PM, Alyssa <lyssassong@gmail.com> wrote:

Contact FS, and report this. I also have issues with JAWS 2018 and Office 365. Mine are with Word. I cannot properly read information in tables, so I can see how this would transfer over to Excel.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Prewitt
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 10:05 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Office 365 Excel 2016 and Jaws 2018 Issues

Hi List,

One of my executives is having quite a few issues with Jaws 2018 and Office 365 Excel 2016, the latest build of both under Windows 7. So much so that I have installed excel 2010 on his computer in order for him to get work done. He is reporting the following issues. Jaws becomes silent when saving files, formulas aren’t read to him, he will lose an hour of work randomly, he can’t widen columns, add new sheets, rename sheets, etc. All of these things and others I may not have mentioned he can do in Excel 2010. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Regards,

Brian












Re: Office 2019

 

Here is information about Office 2019, I doubt you have to do much of anything if you are an Office 365 subscribers as it should update itself and, for the most part, the enhancements you would get if you had bought Office 2016 as a one-time purchase you would already have:

 

Office 2019 is now available for Windows and Mac

By Jared Spataro, Corporate Vice President for Office and Windows Marketing , on September 24, 2018

Today, we are announcing the general availability of Office 2019 for Windows and Mac. Office 2019  is the next on-premises version of Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, Project, Visio, Access, and Publisher.

Office 365 ProPlus, the cloud-connected version of Office, delivers the most productive and most secure Office experience —with the lowest total cost of ownership for deployment and management. However, for customers who aren’t ready for the cloud, Office 2019 provides new features and updates to the on-premises apps for both users and IT professionals. Like Windows Long Term Servicing Channel (LTSC) releases, Office 2019 provides a set of valuable enhancements

for customers who can’t be cloud-connected or receive regular updates.

The new enhancements in Office 2019 are a subset of a long list of features that have been added to Office 365 ProPlus over the last three years. Office

2019 is a one-time release and won’t receive future feature updates. However, we’ll continue to add new features to Office 365 ProPlus monthly, including innovations in collaboration, artificial intelligence (AI), security, and more.

 

An image shows a device using PowerPoint in Office 2019.

 

Office 2019 delivers features across apps to help users create amazing content in less time. In PowerPoint 2019, you can create cinematic presentations with new features like Morph and Zoom. And improved inking features across the apps in Windows—like the roaming pencil case, pressure sensitivity, and tilt effects— allow you to naturally create documents.

 

An image shows a device using Excel in Office 2019.

Excel 2019 adds powerful new data analysis features, including new formulas and charts and enhancements to PowerPivot.

 

An image shows a laptop open and a Word document being worked on.

Word 2019 and Outlook 2019 help you focus on what matters most. Learning Tools, like Read Aloud and Text Spacing, make it easier to engage with your content.

Focus Mode blocks out distractions and puts your content front and center. And Focused Inbox moves less important emails out of the way—so you can get straight to taking care of business. For a longer list of the new features in Office 2019, see our

FAQs .

 

Office 2019 also includes new IT value for enhanced security and streamlined administration. We introduced Click-to-Run (C2R), a modern deployment technology, in Office 2013, and it’s now used to deploy and update Office across hundreds of millions of devices worldwide. With Office 2019, we’re moving the on-premises versions of Office to C2R to reduce costs and improve security. The advantages of C2R include predictable monthly security updates, up-to-date apps on installation, reduced network consumption through Windows 10 download optimization technology, and an easy upgrade path to Office 365 ProPlus. C2R offers the same enterprise-focused management capabilities as Microsoft Installer (MSI) based products and will also support an in-place upgrade when you move to Office 2019 from older MSI-based products. To learn more, refer to the Office 2019 Click-to-Run FAQ.

 

The 2019 release of Office products also includes updates to our servers, and in the coming weeks, we will release Exchange Server 2019, Skype for Business Server 2019, SharePoint Server 2019, and Project Server 2019.

Office 2019 is a valuable update for customers who aren’t yet ready for the cloud. And each time we release a new on-premises version of Office, customers ask us if this will be our last.

We’re pleased to confirm that we’re committed to another on-premises release in the future. While the cloud offers real benefits in productivity, security, and total cost of ownership, we recognize that each customer is at a different point in their adoption of cloud services. We see the on-premises version of Office as an important part of our commitment to give customers the flexibility they need to move to the cloud at their own pace.