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Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

Michael Mote
 

Sometimes, I have better luck pressing Alt plus F to bring up my menu options in Chrome.  I also use this followed by the letter B as a shortcut to find my list of book marks. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 3:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

Thank you muchly;

I guess that isn’t my original problem;

 

My original problem is that some pages I go onto allow me to hit the alt key and it shows the chrome menus and toolbars, etc,

And yet, others, hitting alt does absolutely nothing;

 

Not only that,

The pages where alt does nothing,

On those pages, ctrl+d to add the current page as a favorite doesn’t work either;

Its like some pages disable all the keyboard functionality?

 

I see this a lot from the google home page when first starting out on the browser;

 

I tried the f11 thinking that full screen was inadvertently turned on,

And still no go,

I don’t understand the rationale for the inconsistent behavior;

 

Any ideas?

 

Mike m.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 3:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

F11 is the toggle in to or out of Full Screen mode in the Chrome browser.

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Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

mike mcglashon
 

Thank you muchly;

I guess that isn’t my original problem;

 

My original problem is that some pages I go onto allow me to hit the alt key and it shows the chrome menus and toolbars, etc,

And yet, others, hitting alt does absolutely nothing;

 

Not only that,

The pages where alt does nothing,

On those pages, ctrl+d to add the current page as a favorite doesn’t work either;

Its like some pages disable all the keyboard functionality?

 

I see this a lot from the google home page when first starting out on the browser;

 

I tried the f11 thinking that full screen was inadvertently turned on,

And still no go,

I don’t understand the rationale for the inconsistent behavior;

 

Any ideas?

 

Mike m.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 3:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

F11 is the toggle in to or out of Full Screen mode in the Chrome browser.

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Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

Michael Mote
 

You do this by pressing the function key F11.  It is a toggle, so to tur it on press it once, and to turn it off, press it again.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 2:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

how do you turn full screen on and off then?

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On Oct 2, 2018, at 11:54 AM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

Hi, Sieghard. Perhaps you have Chrome set to Full-Screen Mode. If I set any browser to Full-Screen Mode, the menus are hidden, and if I press ALT plus anything, the menus don’t come up.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

Very strange why this is inconsistent, but Alt+F does nothing for me and it doesn’t matter if I press and hold Alt and press F which is what Alt+F usually means or if I press Alt and let go and then press F. Actually, Alt+Down Arrow also does nothing.

For me it is pressing Alt by itself and letting go which brings up the menu, Jaws will say Customize and control Google Chrome.

If I press either up or down arrow at this point I get Settings, Help and Exit as the first three options, if I down arrow more I get to things like New Tab, New Window, New Incognito Window etc.

If I press up arrow after Alt I again get Settings, but then if I keep pressing up arrow it wraps around and I get the Paste which is the last option if I were to press down arrow.

 

As you said, Brian, if I press Alt and let go and then press left arrow it will take me into my list of installed extensions starting at the very right. That one is nice to know since usually I would go there by pressing F6 followed by Tab.

Pressing right arrow which I thought may take you to the extensions starting from the left side takes you to Reload this page, if I right arrow again I get View site information button menu secure and right again then goes into the address bar.

 

This is how it works on this laptop, I’ll try to remember to see if my desktops at work behave the same way.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 6:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 03:59 AM, paul lemm wrote:

I just tried the alt, f and then B

Well, I can get ALT+F to bring up the Chrome Menu just as ALT followed by Down Arrow (which I note, and have seen others note as "ALT, Down Arrow").  If you follow either by B it will bring up the Bookmarks submenu which can then be up/down arrow and/or first letter navigated.

Interestingly ALT, Up Arrow will "drop down" the Chrome Menu, too.  If you have extensions ALT, Left Arrow will start moving you through any visible controls on the right side of the Chrome control bar, starting with your Chrome login then followed after that by whatever extensions you have installed that have visible controls, then dealing with the address box and its controls.

Chrome is quite accessible, it's just a matter of figuring out it's eccentricities (pretty much like having to figure out any program's eccentricities).
 
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          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

F11 is the toggle in to or out of Full Screen mode in the Chrome browser.

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          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

mike mcglashon
 

how do you turn full screen on and off then?

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On Oct 2, 2018, at 11:54 AM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

Hi, Sieghard. Perhaps you have Chrome set to Full-Screen Mode. If I set any browser to Full-Screen Mode, the menus are hidden, and if I press ALT plus anything, the menus don’t come up.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

Very strange why this is inconsistent, but Alt+F does nothing for me and it doesn’t matter if I press and hold Alt and press F which is what Alt+F usually means or if I press Alt and let go and then press F. Actually, Alt+Down Arrow also does nothing.

For me it is pressing Alt by itself and letting go which brings up the menu, Jaws will say Customize and control Google Chrome.

If I press either up or down arrow at this point I get Settings, Help and Exit as the first three options, if I down arrow more I get to things like New Tab, New Window, New Incognito Window etc.

If I press up arrow after Alt I again get Settings, but then if I keep pressing up arrow it wraps around and I get the Paste which is the last option if I were to press down arrow.

 

As you said, Brian, if I press Alt and let go and then press left arrow it will take me into my list of installed extensions starting at the very right. That one is nice to know since usually I would go there by pressing F6 followed by Tab.

Pressing right arrow which I thought may take you to the extensions starting from the left side takes you to Reload this page, if I right arrow again I get View site information button menu secure and right again then goes into the address bar.

 

This is how it works on this laptop, I’ll try to remember to see if my desktops at work behave the same way.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 6:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 03:59 AM, paul lemm wrote:

I just tried the alt, f and then B

Well, I can get ALT+F to bring up the Chrome Menu just as ALT followed by Down Arrow (which I note, and have seen others note as "ALT, Down Arrow").  If you follow either by B it will bring up the Bookmarks submenu which can then be up/down arrow and/or first letter navigated.

Interestingly ALT, Up Arrow will "drop down" the Chrome Menu, too.  If you have extensions ALT, Left Arrow will start moving you through any visible controls on the right side of the Chrome control bar, starting with your Chrome login then followed after that by whatever extensions you have installed that have visible controls, then dealing with the address box and its controls.

Chrome is quite accessible, it's just a matter of figuring out it's eccentricities (pretty much like having to figure out any program's eccentricities).
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: copy and paste between two placemarkers in virtual window

Van Lant, Robin
 

To add to this explanation, Once you hit the Insert Space, then M, that selects the text and you can then hit Control C to copy it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 7:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: copy and paste between two placemarkers in virtual window

 

You can do this easily. First, mark the top of the block with ctrl-windows-k. Go to the end of the block and type insert-space, m. 


On Oct 1, 2018, at 8:15 PM, pmbeardy@... wrote:

hello, can you do a copy text between two placemarkers?  within a virtual window. right now I do a ctrl+down arrow to select the text I want. some stuff is very very long to down arrow through. also copying links and other internet things is tedious. is there a copy between placeholders script?  

 



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Re: Making JAWS announce shortcut sequences

 

Everyone can ignore this reply.  I'm doing filter testing with Google and want to pass this through a pre-existing one.
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Re: Making JAWS announce shortcut sequences

 

Mario,

              Thanks for the location specifics.  JAWS settings (any screen reader settings) are a real swamp, but they are so by necessity.  A screen reader has to be uber customizable.
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Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

Cristóbal
 

Google Chrome Version 69.0.3497.100 for me too.

The alt F thing works for me, but even then it’s just not as fluid to get to the bookmarks in Chrome as with Firefox. It may be a simple thing, but one of those things for a heavy bookmarks user like myself where it matters.

That said, and the Chrome bookmarks thing aside, does anyone know of a means to synchronize bookmarks between both browsers?

Perhaps any third party add-ons to handle bookmarks?

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 8:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

My version is Google Chrome Version 69.0.3497.100, same as yours Brian.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 8:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

It could also matter what version of Chrome you're running as well.   I'm using version 69.0.3497.100 under Windows 10.
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Re: Making JAWS announce shortcut sequences

Mario
 

it's in basic options (JAWS, options, basics).

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, Oct 2, 2018 11:04 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Making JAWS announce shortcut sequences

Thanks Ann.  I'll find that setting tomorrow and tweak it.
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for illusion is deep./

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Re: Making JAWS load faster

David & his pack of dogs
 

I have my JAWS load up at the log in screen. I don’t understand this urgency for JAWS to load up.  Is it the old, I want it now! Mentality? Try and use a refurbished Windows 7, upgraded to 10 computer that is at least 7 years old and having to wait 10 minutes before JAWS 2018 loads up, as in no sound at all. Now I am using a Mac Book pro converted to windows with Boot camp, within 2 minutes everything is up and running, as in I can start working. NO more having the time to poor and drink my cup of coffee before JAWS starts working.     

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: October 2, 2018 8:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Making JAWS load faster

 

I also never felt the need to try and make Jaws load faster. Also, do you mean it should load faster at the logon screen or after you put in your PIN/Password? On most of my machines Jaws starts to speak at the logon screen almost simultaneously with the Windows Startup sound. Visually if somebody looks the password field is usually there a second or two before Jaws starts up, but to me that doesn’t matter. What did bother me a bit was the long wait time for Jaws to load after I put in my PIN/Password, my sighted wife says the desktop is there within a second or two after I put in my password and press enter, but Jaws 2018 always took super long to load, about 15 seconds at least. FS has said that this was because of Jaws looking for the proper license information or something like, but they have fixed this in Jaws 2019 where Jaws usually speaks after I press enter within 6 or so seconds, less than half the time it took before.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 7:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Making JAWS load faster

 

Hi,

 

Personally, I’d just get an SSD drive in your computer, rather than worrying about the load order.  It will be changed with every JAWS update.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 01 October 2018 17:12
To: JFW Mailing List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Making JAWS load faster

 

Some time ago, someone on this list gave tips for putting JAWS at the top of the Startup list in Windows. Can someone repost these steps for reorganizing the order of startup programs so that JAWS loads first?

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

 

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Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

Bill White
 

Hi, Sieghard. Perhaps you have Chrome set to Full-Screen Mode. If I set any browser to Full-Screen Mode, the menus are hidden, and if I press ALT plus anything, the menus don’t come up.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

Very strange why this is inconsistent, but Alt+F does nothing for me and it doesn’t matter if I press and hold Alt and press F which is what Alt+F usually means or if I press Alt and let go and then press F. Actually, Alt+Down Arrow also does nothing.

For me it is pressing Alt by itself and letting go which brings up the menu, Jaws will say Customize and control Google Chrome.

If I press either up or down arrow at this point I get Settings, Help and Exit as the first three options, if I down arrow more I get to things like New Tab, New Window, New Incognito Window etc.

If I press up arrow after Alt I again get Settings, but then if I keep pressing up arrow it wraps around and I get the Paste which is the last option if I were to press down arrow.

 

As you said, Brian, if I press Alt and let go and then press left arrow it will take me into my list of installed extensions starting at the very right. That one is nice to know since usually I would go there by pressing F6 followed by Tab.

Pressing right arrow which I thought may take you to the extensions starting from the left side takes you to Reload this page, if I right arrow again I get View site information button menu secure and right again then goes into the address bar.

 

This is how it works on this laptop, I’ll try to remember to see if my desktops at work behave the same way.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 6:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 03:59 AM, paul lemm wrote:

I just tried the alt, f and then B

Well, I can get ALT+F to bring up the Chrome Menu just as ALT followed by Down Arrow (which I note, and have seen others note as "ALT, Down Arrow").  If you follow either by B it will bring up the Bookmarks submenu which can then be up/down arrow and/or first letter navigated.

Interestingly ALT, Up Arrow will "drop down" the Chrome Menu, too.  If you have extensions ALT, Left Arrow will start moving you through any visible controls on the right side of the Chrome control bar, starting with your Chrome login then followed after that by whatever extensions you have installed that have visible controls, then dealing with the address box and its controls.

Chrome is quite accessible, it's just a matter of figuring out it's eccentricities (pretty much like having to figure out any program's eccentricities).
 
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Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

My version is Google Chrome Version 69.0.3497.100, same as yours Brian.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 8:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

It could also matter what version of Chrome you're running as well.   I'm using version 69.0.3497.100 under Windows 10.
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Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

I am using Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit on all my PC’s and on this laptop here at home I am running the latest Insider version 1809 built, 17763.1, I guess at this point we are only days or at best a week or two away from the start of the official public ro-out of 1809. Whether that makes a difference I don’t know which is why I said I would try how my work desktops behave which all run the latest built of 1803.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 8:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

Sieghard

,

 

Yes, your observations match mine, as well. Are you on a Windows 7 platform, or Windows 7? I'm on Windows 7.

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 08:17

Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

Very strange why this is inconsistent, but Alt+F does nothing for me and it doesn’t matter if I press and hold Alt and press F which is what Alt+F usually means or if I press Alt and let go and then press F. Actually, Alt+Down Arrow also does nothing.

For me it is pressing Alt by itself and letting go which brings up the menu, Jaws will say Customize and control Google Chrome.

If I press either up or down arrow at this point I get Settings, Help and Exit as the first three options, if I down arrow more I get to things like New Tab, New Window, New Incognito Window etc.

If I press up arrow after Alt I again get Settings, but then if I keep pressing up arrow it wraps around and I get the Paste which is the last option if I were to press down arrow.

 

As you said, Brian, if I press Alt and let go and then press left arrow it will take me into my list of installed extensions starting at the very right. That one is nice to know since usually I would go there by pressing F6 followed by Tab.

Pressing right arrow which I thought may take you to the extensions starting from the left side takes you to Reload this page, if I right arrow again I get View site information button menu secure and right again then goes into the address bar.

 

This is how it works on this laptop, I’ll try to remember to see if my desktops at work behave the same way.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 6:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 03:59 AM, paul lemm wrote:

I just tried the alt, f and then B

Well, I can get ALT+F to bring up the Chrome Menu just as ALT followed by Down Arrow (which I note, and have seen others note as "ALT, Down Arrow").  If you follow either by B it will bring up the Bookmarks submenu which can then be up/down arrow and/or first letter navigated.

Interestingly ALT, Up Arrow will "drop down" the Chrome Menu, too.  If you have extensions ALT, Left Arrow will start moving you through any visible controls on the right side of the Chrome control bar, starting with your Chrome login then followed after that by whatever extensions you have installed that have visible controls, then dealing with the address box and its controls.

Chrome is quite accessible, it's just a matter of figuring out it's eccentricities (pretty much like having to figure out any program's eccentricities).
 
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    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

It could also matter what version of Chrome you're running as well.   I'm using version 69.0.3497.100 under Windows 10.
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Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

Dave...
 



Sieghard

 ,

 

Yes, your observations match mine, as well. Are you on a Windows 7 platform, or Windows 7? I'm on Windows 7.

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2018 08:17
Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

Very strange why this is inconsistent, but Alt+F does nothing for me and it doesn’t matter if I press and hold Alt and press F which is what Alt+F usually means or if I press Alt and let go and then press F. Actually, Alt+Down Arrow also does nothing.

For me it is pressing Alt by itself and letting go which brings up the menu, Jaws will say Customize and control Google Chrome.

If I press either up or down arrow at this point I get Settings, Help and Exit as the first three options, if I down arrow more I get to things like New Tab, New Window, New Incognito Window etc.

If I press up arrow after Alt I again get Settings, but then if I keep pressing up arrow it wraps around and I get the Paste which is the last option if I were to press down arrow.

 

As you said, Brian, if I press Alt and let go and then press left arrow it will take me into my list of installed extensions starting at the very right. That one is nice to know since usually I would go there by pressing F6 followed by Tab.

Pressing right arrow which I thought may take you to the extensions starting from the left side takes you to Reload this page, if I right arrow again I get View site information button menu secure and right again then goes into the address bar.

 

This is how it works on this laptop, I’ll try to remember to see if my desktops at work behave the same way.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 6:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 03:59 AM, paul lemm wrote:

I just tried the alt, f and then B

Well, I can get ALT+F to bring up the Chrome Menu just as ALT followed by Down Arrow (which I note, and have seen others note as "ALT, Down Arrow").  If you follow either by B it will bring up the Bookmarks submenu which can then be up/down arrow and/or first letter navigated.

Interestingly ALT, Up Arrow will "drop down" the Chrome Menu, too.  If you have extensions ALT, Left Arrow will start moving you through any visible controls on the right side of the Chrome control bar, starting with your Chrome login then followed after that by whatever extensions you have installed that have visible controls, then dealing with the address box and its controls.

Chrome is quite accessible, it's just a matter of figuring out it's eccentricities (pretty much like having to figure out any program's eccentricities).
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

Mario
 

pressing alt by itself won't do a thing, alt+f and then b...

-------- Original Message --------
From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@live.ca]
Sent: Monday, Oct 1, 2018 10:10 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

In what browser is Alt+F followed by B supposed to woprk?
It doesn't do anything in Chrome, the Alt key alone brings up the menu,
there is no "File" menu and for me Alt+f In Chrome does nothing.
As far as I am concerned there simply are no quick and easy shortcuts in
Chrome to select a certain bookmark.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 10:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

pressing alt+f then b will open the bookmarks list. then using first
letter navigation to move to the items that correspond to the letter you
typed and enter on the item you want. I haven't played around with
anything else.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Dave Mitchell [mailto:mitch@orbitelcom.com]
Sent: Monday, Oct 1, 2018 12:52 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

Hi, What is the most efficient way to quickly access the imported
Internet Favorites with Chrome and Windows 10 and JAWS 2018?

I have worked with Chrome a little to get to my saved Website links but
I cannot find any keystrokes as simple as with I E 11 so will appreciate
some guidance from more experience users.  Thanks, Mitch


Re: Making JAWS load faster

 

I also never felt the need to try and make Jaws load faster. Also, do you mean it should load faster at the logon screen or after you put in your PIN/Password? On most of my machines Jaws starts to speak at the logon screen almost simultaneously with the Windows Startup sound. Visually if somebody looks the password field is usually there a second or two before Jaws starts up, but to me that doesn’t matter. What did bother me a bit was the long wait time for Jaws to load after I put in my PIN/Password, my sighted wife says the desktop is there within a second or two after I put in my password and press enter, but Jaws 2018 always took super long to load, about 15 seconds at least. FS has said that this was because of Jaws looking for the proper license information or something like, but they have fixed this in Jaws 2019 where Jaws usually speaks after I press enter withing 6 or so seconds, less than half the time it took before.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 7:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Making JAWS load faster

 

Hi,

 

Personally, I’d just get an SSD drive in your computer, rather than worrying about the load order.  It will be changed with every JAWS update.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 01 October 2018 17:12
To: JFW Mailing List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Making JAWS load faster

 

Some time ago, someone on this list gave tips for putting JAWS at the top of the Startup list in Windows. Can someone repost these steps for reorganizing the order of startup programs so that JAWS loads first?

 

Thank you.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 


Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

Very strange why this is inconsistent, but Alt+F does nothing for me and it doesn’t matter if I press and hold Alt and press F which is what Alt+F usually means or if I press Alt and let go and then press F. Actually, Alt+Down Arrow also does nothing.

For me it is pressing Alt by itself and letting go which brings up the menu, Jaws will say Customize and control Google Chrome.

If I press either up or down arrow at this point I get Settings, Help and Exit as the first three options, if I down arrow more I get to things like New Tab, New Window, New Incognito Window etc.

If I press up arrow after Alt I again get Settings, but then if I keep pressing up arrow it wraps around and I get the Paste which is the last option if I were to press down arrow.

 

As you said, Brian, if I press Alt and let go and then press left arrow it will take me into my list of installed extensions starting at the very right. That one is nice to know since usually I would go there by pressing F6 followed by Tab.

Pressing right arrow which I thought may take you to the extensions starting from the left side takes you to Reload this page, if I right arrow again I get View site information button menu secure and right again then goes into the address bar.

 

This is how it works on this laptop, I’ll try to remember to see if my desktops at work behave the same way.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 6:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Navigating Favorites With Chrome

 

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 03:59 AM, paul lemm wrote:

I just tried the alt, f and then B

Well, I can get ALT+F to bring up the Chrome Menu just as ALT followed by Down Arrow (which I note, and have seen others note as "ALT, Down Arrow").  If you follow either by B it will bring up the Bookmarks submenu which can then be up/down arrow and/or first letter navigated.

Interestingly ALT, Up Arrow will "drop down" the Chrome Menu, too.  If you have extensions ALT, Left Arrow will start moving you through any visible controls on the right side of the Chrome control bar, starting with your Chrome login then followed after that by whatever extensions you have installed that have visible controls, then dealing with the address box and its controls.

Chrome is quite accessible, it's just a matter of figuring out it's eccentricities (pretty much like having to figure out any program's eccentricities).
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Making JAWS announce shortcut sequences

 

Thanks Ann.  I'll find that setting tomorrow and tweak it.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back