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Re: Authorisation CD and windows 10

Mario
 

good tip for those who didn't know this.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Ashleigh Piccinino [mailto:apiccinino@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Sep 26, 2018 6:08 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Authorisation CD and windows 10

Never knew that! Thanks for the tip. It might be helpful Sunday.
On Sep 9, 2018, at 11:10 AM, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:

for anyone who doesn't know, in the future, to view the contents of a
CD/DVD that normally starts running when engaged in a optical
reader/writer, hold down the left shift key on the keyboard, insert the
CD/DVD (BD) until the drive stops whirring, press the application or
shift+f10 keys, arrow down to and enter on the open command, and now you
should be able to view the disc's contents. BTW, the first item after
pressing the application/shift+f10 keys is usually the default action
when inserting the CD/DVD/BD. holding down the left shift key prevents
the CD/DVD/BD from automatically starting.



-------- Original Message --------
From: paul lemm [mailto:paul.lemm@sky.com]
Sent: Sunday, Sep 9, 2018 10:54 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Authorisation CD and windows 10

Hi,

Ok so managed to get the problem sorted in the end. we were unable to view
the files of the authorisation CD and couldn't view the code in properties
or run the cd, but we were able to copy and paste the cd into my documents,
then from their we could view the folder contents and as advised by Mario ,
in there was a file named with the 20 digit authorisation number we needed.
I just thought I'd post back to say thanks to everyone who offered
suggestions and also to let you know how we got round the issue in case
anyone else has a similar problem in the future.


Kind regards

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: 09 September 2018 00:51
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Authorisation CD and windows 10

Paul, on the auth cd, there is a file with a fsac extension and the name
is the authorization number.


-------- Original Message --------
From: paul lemm [mailto:paul.lemm@sky.com]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 8, 2018 7:07 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Authorisation CD and windows 10

Hi,

Thanks everyone, I'm catching up with my friend tomorrow morning, since
its about midnight here in the uk at the moment, but I'll give these
suggestions a try tomorrow.

Thanks again for the help

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Ron
Pelletier
*Sent:* 08 September 2018 22:43
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Authorisation CD and windows 10

Hi Paul,

I don't remember all the details but it can be done from the Freedom
authorization web site. You need to have the serial number when you go
to that site and the locking code that is located in the "about"
section of the JAWS context menu.

When you enter these 2 pieces identifying you, Freedom will issue a one
time authorization number which is a long code and will need to be
copied and pasted in the appropriate box when you run the authorization
from JAWS. I've done it a few times but that was a while back and I
don't remember the exact steps but this should give what you need to get
it done.

Ron & Danvers

soft

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *Ont Behalf Of
*paul lemm
*Sent:* Saturday, September 08, 2018 5:24 PM
*To:* jfw@groups.io
*Subject:* Authorisation CD and windows 10

Hi,

So I'm actually asking for a friend, but she's just brought a new laptop
which is running windows 10, she has installed jaws , which is currently
running in demo mode, to activate jaws she needs her 20 digit
authorisation code, which she doesn't have, she does have her serial
number plus has an authrurisation CD, but the CD doesn't appear to work
on windows 10 , it just says permission denied when she tries to run
the authorisation CD and she can't get the code from the properties of
the CD either. Does anyone else know of any way to get the authorisation
number ? without contacting freedom scientific, just as we are in
Europe, not the US so it makes it difficult to call and emailing may
take a while to get a reply due to time difference and the weekend
being almost here.

Thanks in advance for any help

Paul










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Re: getting the mail ap in windows 10 to work with jaws?

Shirley Tracy
 

I’ll add my 2 cents here. I prefer Windows Mail to anything else I have used recently. I import my Gmail into it, and if I have trouble opening links or such, then I go to the Gmail directly. I just think using Windows Mail for most of my email works fine.

 

Cheerfully,

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting the mail ap in windows 10 to work with jaws?

 

It works fine for me. Of course we’re talking about Jaws in the mail app.


On Sep 24, 2018, at 10:00 AM, Joseph Norton <joseph.norton@...> wrote:

Hi:

 

I’m using it successfully with both the beta and earlier versions of JAWS.

 

There are a few issues, such as not being able to press Enter on some links, but not all.  Also, JAWS doesn’t read the address fields very well when I’m composing a message.

 

For simple reading and replying, which is a large percentage of my mail actions, it works adequately.

when I want to compose a message.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Michael Amaro
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 5:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: getting the mail ap in windows 10 to work with jaws?

 

Hello Listers,

 

How easy is it to use the mail ap in windows 10 with jaws?  I am having no luck in setting up my friend's @msn email address in windows live mail.  There for I want to go the mail ap route.  I my self have never used  the mail ap.  How easy is it to teach some one that doesn't know much about technology?  Is it easy to set up an acount?

 

Thanks

 

Michael

 

Email/Skype:

 

 

Zoom Room:

 

 

Zoom ID:

 

7792849618

 

JFK
"
What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace, the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, the kind that enables men and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for their children--not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women--not merely peace in our time but peace for all time."

 

 


Re: punctuation script and 2019 beta

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

You might also try reporting it to VF. Don’t they still have that form you can fill out while using beta software?


On Sep 24, 2018, at 10:47 PM, Tom <tomcat509@...> wrote:

Hi,

Yes, that is the script I am referring to and yes, under the beta I am unable to change the punctuation levels.

 

Maybe it would be worth me exportings the settings from 2018 and importing them into the beta.

 

Tom

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2018 12:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: punctuation script and 2019 beta

 

Hi:

 

Do you mean changing punctuation levels?  If that’s what you mean, I’m having no issues.  I can change levels of punctuation and it works fine.

 

Not sure what script you’re referring to, if that’s not it.

 

I have no issues with punctuation in the beta.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Tom
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 5:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: punctuation script and 2019 beta

 

Hi,

 

I stuffed up my message the first time so now sending   a corrected version. 

 

Using: W10 64 bit Home with latest updates. And Jaws 2019 beta.

 

While the punctuation  script  continues to function normally on my system in Jaws 2018, it does not work in the 2019 beta. 

 

Has anyone else noticed this problem with the beta?

 

Would it be worth attempting to install the script again under the beta

 

 

Thanks

 

Tom

 


Re: getting the mail ap in windows 10 to work with jaws?

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

It works fine for me. Of course we’re talking about Jaws in the mail app.


On Sep 24, 2018, at 10:00 AM, Joseph Norton <joseph.norton@...> wrote:

Hi:

 

I’m using it successfully with both the beta and earlier versions of JAWS.

 

There are a few issues, such as not being able to press Enter on some links, but not all.  Also, JAWS doesn’t read the address fields very well when I’m composing a message.

 

For simple reading and replying, which is a large percentage of my mail actions, it works adequately.

when I want to compose a message.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Michael Amaro
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 5:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: getting the mail ap in windows 10 to work with jaws?

 

Hello Listers,

 

How easy is it to use the mail ap in windows 10 with jaws?  I am having no luck in setting up my friend's @msn email address in windows live mail.  There for I want to go the mail ap route.  I my self have never used  the mail ap.  How easy is it to teach some one that doesn't know much about technology?  Is it easy to set up an acount?

 

Thanks

 

Michael

 

Email/Skype:

 

 

Zoom Room:

 

 

Zoom ID:

 

7792849618

 

JFK
"
What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace, the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, the kind that enables men and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for their children--not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women--not merely peace in our time but peace for all time."

 


Re: Authorisation CD and windows 10

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Never knew that! Thanks for the tip. It might be helpful Sunday.

On Sep 9, 2018, at 11:10 AM, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:

for anyone who doesn't know, in the future, to view the contents of a
CD/DVD that normally starts running when engaged in a optical
reader/writer, hold down the left shift key on the keyboard, insert the
CD/DVD (BD) until the drive stops whirring, press the application or
shift+f10 keys, arrow down to and enter on the open command, and now you
should be able to view the disc's contents. BTW, the first item after
pressing the application/shift+f10 keys is usually the default action
when inserting the CD/DVD/BD. holding down the left shift key prevents
the CD/DVD/BD from automatically starting.



-------- Original Message --------
From: paul lemm [mailto:paul.lemm@sky.com]
Sent: Sunday, Sep 9, 2018 10:54 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Authorisation CD and windows 10

Hi,

Ok so managed to get the problem sorted in the end. we were unable to view
the files of the authorisation CD and couldn't view the code in properties
or run the cd, but we were able to copy and paste the cd into my documents,
then from their we could view the folder contents and as advised by Mario ,
in there was a file named with the 20 digit authorisation number we needed.
I just thought I'd post back to say thanks to everyone who offered
suggestions and also to let you know how we got round the issue in case
anyone else has a similar problem in the future.


Kind regards

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: 09 September 2018 00:51
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Authorisation CD and windows 10

Paul, on the auth cd, there is a file with a fsac extension and the name
is the authorization number.


-------- Original Message --------
From: paul lemm [mailto:paul.lemm@sky.com]
Sent: Saturday, Sep 8, 2018 7:07 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Authorisation CD and windows 10

Hi,

Thanks everyone, I'm catching up with my friend tomorrow morning, since
its about midnight here in the uk at the moment, but I'll give these
suggestions a try tomorrow.

Thanks again for the help

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Ron
Pelletier
*Sent:* 08 September 2018 22:43
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Authorisation CD and windows 10

Hi Paul,

I don't remember all the details but it can be done from the Freedom
authorization web site. You need to have the serial number when you go
to that site and the locking code that is located in the "about"
section of the JAWS context menu.

When you enter these 2 pieces identifying you, Freedom will issue a one
time authorization number which is a long code and will need to be
copied and pasted in the appropriate box when you run the authorization
from JAWS. I've done it a few times but that was a while back and I
don't remember the exact steps but this should give what you need to get
it done.

Ron & Danvers

soft

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *Ont Behalf Of
*paul lemm
*Sent:* Saturday, September 08, 2018 5:24 PM
*To:* jfw@groups.io
*Subject:* Authorisation CD and windows 10

Hi,

So I'm actually asking for a friend, but she's just brought a new laptop
which is running windows 10, she has installed jaws , which is currently
running in demo mode, to activate jaws she needs her 20 digit
authorisation code, which she doesn't have, she does have her serial
number plus has an authrurisation CD, but the CD doesn't appear to work
on windows 10 , it just says permission denied when she tries to run
the authorisation CD and she can't get the code from the properties of
the CD either. Does anyone else know of any way to get the authorisation
number ? without contacting freedom scientific, just as we are in
Europe, not the US so it makes it difficult to call and emailing may
take a while to get a reply due to time difference and the weekend
being almost here.

Thanks in advance for any help

Paul










.





Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

Cristóbal
 

It is off. 

On Sep 25, 2018, at 7:50 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings@...> wrote:

What if you turn off the keyboard ecko?
 
Love in Christ
Marty
 
From: Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems
 

Yes. Numlock on or off doesn’t’ change the behavior of the * or / keys. Like I said, when numlock is off, the external numeric keypad works perfectly fine for navigation commands and whatever other Jaws commands, but it’s when numlock is on for the actual number function do I get the numlock off announcement for every number I press. The numbers do indeed register, but you can imagine how distracting hhearing that spoken every time you punching in something. Especially if you’re trying to take down information over the phone.

Another thing, The plus key above the enter key is always the PC cursor regardless of numlock status. Similar to the left and right mouse key behavior.

It’s perfectly fine that the left and right mouse keys behave as they should with numlock off, but when it’s toggled to on that it becomes an issue.

That’s why I was curious to know if this was perhaps something isolated to a particular numeric keypad or if it’s something of a more general Jaws conflict.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jf

w.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

 

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 06:40 PM, Bill White wrote:

The reason the Star and Slash say left and right mouse is that, these are the keys for the left and right mouse in JAWS.

But that's only supposed to be the case if Num Lock is off.  I've used the internal number pad in "full number pad mode" on machines running JAWS, using slash for divide and star for multiply when in calculator programs or others that recognize them as math operators when number lock was on.  It has been a while, however.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

Marty Hutchings
 

What if you turn off the keyboard ecko?
 
Love in Christ
Marty
 

From: Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems
 

Yes. Numlock on or off doesn’t’ change the behavior of the * or / keys. Like I said, when numlock is off, the external numeric keypad works perfectly fine for navigation commands and whatever other Jaws commands, but it’s when numlock is on for the actual number function do I get the numlock off announcement for every number I press. The numbers do indeed register, but you can imagine how distracting hhearing that spoken every time you punching in something. Especially if you’re trying to take down information over the phone.

Another thing, The plus key above the enter key is always the PC cursor regardless of numlock status. Similar to the left and right mouse key behavior.

It’s perfectly fine that the left and right mouse keys behave as they should with numlock off, but when it’s toggled to on that it becomes an issue.

That’s why I was curious to know if this was perhaps something isolated to a particular numeric keypad or if it’s something of a more general Jaws conflict.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jf

w.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

 

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 06:40 PM, Bill White wrote:

The reason the Star and Slash say left and right mouse is that, these are the keys for the left and right mouse in JAWS.

But that's only supposed to be the case if Num Lock is off.  I've used the internal number pad in "full number pad mode" on machines running JAWS, using slash for divide and star for multiply when in calculator programs or others that recognize them as math operators when number lock was on.  It has been a while, however.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

 

Cristóbal,

          It certainly never hurts to try as many information sources as one can.  I guess my main point, based on the prior thread I mentioned, is that it seems that no one outside VFO has been able to produce a definitive answer.  Here's hoping they give you one (and that you'll let us know what that is).

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

Cristóbal
 

Yeah, I wrote them earlier, but thought I’d try my luck on these lists as well.

Thanks,

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

 

There's a reason I have VFO Technical Support e-mail in my contacts!   I can't count the number of times I've written to them to try to determine "where the fault lies" in instances like this.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

 

One of the JFW option settings is something like "differentiate" (search for it in Settings).  Basically, this settings differentiates the cursor navigation keys between the "extended" keys and the cursor navigation keys on a numeric keypad - or not.  Also, maybe the setting to default the numlock to on/off might help.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 2:21 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

 

Hello list,

I do a lot of number typing and because of this, I finally got tired of toggeling the numlock key on and off and forgetting what it was on. I decided to get an external numeric keypad and using it for the data entry part and leaving the onboard numpad as the navigation keys.

Anyway, I ended up buying the Jelly Comb wireless model: https://www.amazon.com/Jelly-Comb-Wireless-Receiver-Compatible/dp/B01HLTH7YE

The computer recognizes it fine with the little wireless dongle, but I’m finding that when I try to use it, Jaws will say “numlock off” for every single number on the 10-key when in the number state. Also, regardless if numlock is on or off, the / and * keys above #8 and 9 will activate as left and right mouse click. Not good if you want to punch in dates.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone’s actually using an external numeric keypad be it this one or some other model and if there’s either a fix for these particular issues or maybe there’s a specific model that plays well with Jaws?

I can even live with the numlock off announcement thing if I really, really had to, but the left and right mouse button thing I find really disruptive since without it, there’s no quick and convenient way to punch in dates.

Thanks,

 

Cristóbal

 


Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

 

There's a reason I have VFO Technical Support e-mail in my contacts!   I can't count the number of times I've written to them to try to determine "where the fault lies" in instances like this.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

Cristóbal
 

Yes. Numlock on or off doesn’t’ change the behavior of the * or / keys. Like I said, when numlock is off, the external numeric keypad works perfectly fine for navigation commands and whatever other Jaws commands, but it’s when numlock is on for the actual number function do I get the numlock off announcement for every number I press. The numbers do indeed register, but you can imagine how distracting hhearing that spoken every time you punching in something. Especially if you’re trying to take down information over the phone.

Another thing, The plus key above the enter key is always the PC cursor regardless of numlock status. Similar to the left and right mouse key behavior.

It’s perfectly fine that the left and right mouse keys behave as they should with numlock off, but when it’s toggled to on that it becomes an issue.

That’s why I was curious to know if this was perhaps something isolated to a particular numeric keypad or if it’s something of a more general Jaws conflict.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jf

w.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 4:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

 

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 06:40 PM, Bill White wrote:

The reason the Star and Slash say left and right mouse is that, these are the keys for the left and right mouse in JAWS.

But that's only supposed to be the case if Num Lock is off.  I've used the internal number pad in "full number pad mode" on machines running JAWS, using slash for divide and star for multiply when in calculator programs or others that recognize them as math operators when number lock was on.  It has been a while, however.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

 

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 06:40 PM, Bill White wrote:
The reason the Star and Slash say left and right mouse is that, these are the keys for the left and right mouse in JAWS.
But that's only supposed to be the case if Num Lock is off.  I've used the internal number pad in "full number pad mode" on machines running JAWS, using slash for divide and star for multiply when in calculator programs or others that recognize them as math operators when number lock was on.  It has been a while, however.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back


Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

The reason the Star and Slash say left and right mouse is that, these are the keys for the left and right mouse in JAWS.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, Septem ber 25, 2018 3:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

 

I know I can do this, but it then kind of defeats the purpose and convenience intended by having the external keypad with the extra going back and forth and additional step.

I don’t mind trying another model if it perhaps makes a difference, but if these are universal issues, then what would the point be then?

I was hoping there were some Jaws users with a numbers/accounting background who maybe know of a particular external pad that doesn’t present these issues or if there’s some sort of keymapping/overriding one can do get get it to work as intended.

When numlock is set to off, then when it’s used as the traditional navigation keypad, everything works quite well, but that would be reduntant. I’m not inclined to use the external pad as the navigation keys and the laptop/desktop keyboard numpad as the 10-key either.

Thanks anyway.

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 2:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

 

Hi, Cristóbal. When you want to enter the Star or Slash, try the JAWS Pass through key first, JAWS key plus three on the numbers row of the laptop.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 2:21 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

 

Hello list,

I do a lot of number typing and because of this, I finally got tired of toggeling the numlock key on and off and forgetting what it was on. I decided to get an external numeric keypad and using it for the data entry part and leaving the onboard numpad as the navigation keys.

Anyway, I ended up buying the Jelly Comb wireless model: https://www.amazon.com/Jelly-Comb-Wireless-Receiver-Compatible/dp/B01HLTH7YE

The computer recognizes it fine with the little wireless dongle, but I’m finding that when I try to use it, Jaws will say “numlock off” for every single number on the 10-key when in the number state. Also, regardless if numlock is on or off, the / and * keys above #8 and 9 will activate as left and right mouse click. Not good if you want to punch in dates.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone’s actually using an external numeric keypad be it this one or some other model and if there’s either a fix for these particular issues or maybe there’s a specific model that plays well with Jaws?

I can even live with the numlock off announcement thing if I really, really had to, but the left and right mouse button thing I find really disruptive since without it, there’s no quick and convenient way to punch in dates.

Thanks,

 

Cristóbal

 


Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

 
Edited

HH,

        I believe you're remembering the topic, Possible way to map external number pad keys independent of built-in number pad keys, on the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Forum.  In it, I made reference to a topic I started on Bleeping Computer as a spin off:   Making an external number pad operate independently of the keyboard number pad

         I failed to include this post, on reddit, that is mentioned in the BC thread which is the only real solution that's been offered:  https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/qbdf9/using_external_numpad_without_having_to_toggle/
Since this involves a BIOS tweak it will likely require a sighted assistant.

          Sorry for the resend.
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Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

Cristóbal
 

I know I can do this, but it then kind of defeats the purpose and convenience intended by having the external keypad with the extra going back and forth and additional step.

I don’t mind trying another model if it perhaps makes a difference, but if these are universal issues, then what would the point be then?

I was hoping there were some Jaws users with a numbers/accounting background who maybe know of a particular external pad that doesn’t present these issues or if there’s some sort of keymapping/overriding one can do get get it to work as intended.

When numlock is set to off, then when it’s used as the traditional navigation keypad, everything works quite well, but that would be reduntant. I’m not inclined to use the external pad as the navigation keys and the laptop/desktop keyboard numpad as the 10-key either.

Thanks anyway.

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 2:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

 

Hi, Cristóbal. When you want to enter the Star or Slash, try the JAWS Pass through key first, JAWS key plus three on the numbers row of the laptop.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 2:21 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

 

Hello list,

I do a lot of number typing and because of this, I finally got tired of toggeling the numlock key on and off and forgetting what it was on. I decided to get an external numeric keypad and using it for the data entry part and leaving the onboard numpad as the navigation keys.

Anyway, I ended up buying the Jelly Comb wireless model: https://www.amazon.com/Jelly-Comb-Wireless-Receiver-Compatible/dp/B01HLTH7YE

The computer recognizes it fine with the little wireless dongle, but I’m finding that when I try to use it, Jaws will say “numlock off” for every single number on the 10-key when in the number state. Also, regardless if numlock is on or off, the / and * keys above #8 and 9 will activate as left and right mouse click. Not good if you want to punch in dates.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone’s actually using an external numeric keypad be it this one or some other model and if there’s either a fix for these particular issues or maybe there’s a specific model that plays well with Jaws?

I can even live with the numlock off announcement thing if I really, really had to, but the left and right mouse button thing I find really disruptive since without it, there’s no quick and convenient way to punch in dates.

Thanks,

 

Cristóbal

 


Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hey Guys,

 

Didn’t we have a thread some time back where we discussed making the number pad independent or something like that.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 5:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

 

Hi, Cristóbal. When you want to enter the Star or Slash, try the JAWS Pass through key first, JAWS key plus three on the numbers row of the laptop.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 2:21 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

 

Hello list,

I do a lot of number typing and because of this, I finally got tired of toggeling the numlock key on and off and forgetting what it was on. I decided to get an external numeric keypad and using it for the data entry part and leaving the onboard numpad as the navigation keys.

Anyway, I ended up buying the Jelly Comb wireless model: https://www.amazon.com/Jelly-Comb-Wireless-Receiver-Compatible/dp/B01HLTH7YE

The computer recognizes it fine with the little wireless dongle, but I’m finding that when I try to use it, Jaws will say “numlock off” for every single number on the 10-key when in the number state. Also, regardless if numlock is on or off, the / and * keys above #8 and 9 will activate as left and right mouse click. Not good if you want to punch in dates.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone’s actually using an external numeric keypad be it this one or some other model and if there’s either a fix for these particular issues or maybe there’s a specific model that plays well with Jaws?

I can even live with the numlock off announcement thing if I really, really had to, but the left and right mouse button thing I find really disruptive since without it, there’s no quick and convenient way to punch in dates.

Thanks,

 

Cristóbal

 


Re: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Cristóbal. When you want to enter the Star or Slash, try the JAWS Pass through key first, JAWS key plus three on the numbers row of the laptop.

 

Bill White

 

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 2:21 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

 

Hello list,

I do a lot of number typing and because of this, I finally got tired of toggeling the numlock key on and off and forgetting what it was on. I decided to get an external numeric keypad and using it for the data entry part and leaving the onboard numpad as the navigation keys.

Anyway, I ended up buying the Jelly Comb wireless model: https://www.amazon.com/Jelly-Comb-Wireless-Receiver-Compatible/dp/B01HLTH7YE

The computer recognizes it fine with the little wireless dongle, but I’m finding that when I try to use it, Jaws will say “numlock off” for every single number on the 10-key when in the number state. Also, regardless if numlock is on or off, the / and * keys above #8 and 9 will activate as left and right mouse click. Not good if you want to punch in dates.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone’s actually using an external numeric keypad be it this one or some other model and if there’s either a fix for these particular issues or maybe there’s a specific model that plays well with Jaws?

I can even live with the numlock off announcement thing if I really, really had to, but the left and right mouse button thing I find really disruptive since without it, there’s no quick and convenient way to punch in dates.

Thanks,

 

Cristóbal

 


Using an external numeric keypad with Jaws and encountering some problems

Cristóbal
 

Hello list,

I do a lot of number typing and because of this, I finally got tired of toggeling the numlock key on and off and forgetting what it was on. I decided to get an external numeric keypad and using it for the data entry part and leaving the onboard numpad as the navigation keys.

Anyway, I ended up buying the Jelly Comb wireless model: https://www.amazon.com/Jelly-Comb-Wireless-Receiver-Compatible/dp/B01HLTH7YE

The computer recognizes it fine with the little wireless dongle, but I’m finding that when I try to use it, Jaws will say “numlock off” for every single number on the 10-key when in the number state. Also, regardless if numlock is on or off, the / and * keys above #8 and 9 will activate as left and right mouse click. Not good if you want to punch in dates.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone’s actually using an external numeric keypad be it this one or some other model and if there’s either a fix for these particular issues or maybe there’s a specific model that plays well with Jaws?

I can even live with the numlock off announcement thing if I really, really had to, but the left and right mouse button thing I find really disruptive since without it, there’s no quick and convenient way to punch in dates.

Thanks,

 

Cristóbal

 


Re: getting the mail ap in windows 10 to work with jaws?

Joseph Norton
 

Hi:

 

Thanks for those observations.

 

Things like this are why I advocate having more than one screen reader on a system.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: mnowicki.transactional@...
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 8:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting the mail ap in windows 10 to work with jaws?

 

The Windows 10 mail app is compatible with JAWS, but it works much better with NVDA. For example, when I start typing an e-mail address in the to field, NVDA reads the suggested recipients that pop up automatically, while JAWS does not. To get JAWS to read this information, I must tab out of the to field. Additionally, JAWS does not always accurately read message sender information while navigating the inbox with the arrow keys, whereas NVDA does not seem to have any trouble with this. Third, when I press enter to open a message from the inbox, JAWS frequently crashes. Sometimes, the mail app crashes along with it. I have never encountered this serious bug with NVDA running.

 

Finally, unlike NVDA, JAWS has had a difficult time keeping up with updates to the mail app. Since the app first became accessible, I have noticed accessibility regressions on at least three occasions. While VFO has always fixed these problems reasonably quickly, the issues were frustrating.

 

As a result of the above issues, I now use the Windows 10 mail app almost exclusively with NVDA, which interacts with it quite smoothly and adapts to changes faster. I hope this helps.

 

Michal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 12:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: getting the mail ap in windows 10 to work with jaws?

 

Thunderbird is easy to get going, especially for a common email.  I don't remember the exact steps, but once you open it, it will likely ask for the email address you wish to configure,then it will give you options like whether you want pop or imap using its database or configure it yourself.  Using the database makes the process nothing to fear.

 

 

 

On 9/24/2018 11:18, Michael Amaro wrote:

Could you please give me step by step instructions on how to set it up?  I am trying to set up my friend's msn email address in windows live.  So far no luck.  I am about to pull out my hair.

 

From: Chris Hill

Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 7:39 AM

Subject: Re: getting the mail ap in windows 10 to work with jaws?

 

I played with it  It is Clunky  Thunderbirds better and easier to set up


On Sep 22, 2018, at 14:34, Michael Amaro <mikeameli@...> wrote:

Hello Listers,

 

How easy is it to use the mail ap in windows 10 with jaws?  I am having no luck in setting up my friend's @msn email address in windows live mail.  There for I want to go the mail ap route.  I my self have never used  the mail ap.  How easy is it to teach some one that doesn't know much about technology?  Is it easy to set up an acount?

 

Thanks

 

Michael

 

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