Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
Joseph Norton
Hi:
Thanks a lot.
JFW seems to get stuck at 79 per cent.
Thanks again!
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 1:40 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
Hi, Joseph. I have written you privately and put the pdf document you wanted in Microsoft Word, docx format. Please let me know if you would prefer the document in another format.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Thanks, I’ll give that a look.
The document is pretty straight forward, but, Adobe freezes in the middle of processing—maybe that’s actually JFW freezing. Maybe Adobe is just fine with it.
However, NVDA doesn’t like it either.
Just in case anyone wants to look at it, it’s an eBook on using FreeDOS.
The file is at:
http://www.freedos.org/ebook/download/using-freedos-24.pdf
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Acrobat is always kind of sluggish. If it’s not a scanned image document and is straightforward in general (iE, an etext or something), you can use qRead. It’s a nice little programme that very quickly opens pdf and epub files. I like it because it’s very fast. However it doesn’t have many of the features Adobe has. It’s generally meant for books or similar context with straightforward, linear text.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Hi listers:
Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s. For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive. Is this becoming a problem? If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?
Thanks!
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Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
Bill White
Hi, Joseph. I have written you privately and put the pdf document you wanted in Microsoft Word, docx format. Please let me know if you would prefer the document in another format.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
Thanks, I’ll give that a look.
The document is pretty straight forward, but, Adobe freezes in the middle of processing—maybe that’s actually JFW freezing. Maybe Adobe is just fine with it.
However, NVDA doesn’t like it either.
Just in case anyone wants to look at it, it’s an eBook on using FreeDOS.
The file is at:
http://www.freedos.org/ebook/download/using-freedos-24.pdf
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Acrobat is always kind of sluggish. If it’s not a scanned image document and is straightforward in general (iE, an etext or something), you can use qRead. It’s a nice little programme that very quickly opens pdf and epub files. I like it because it’s very fast. However it doesn’t have many of the features Adobe has. It’s generally meant for books or similar context with straightforward, linear text.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Hi listers:
Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s. For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive. Is this becoming a problem? If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?
Thanks!
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Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
Sharon
What about QRead? I love that program, though I do not have it on the computer that has the newest JAWS version. Sharon
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 1:26 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
Thanks, I’ll give that a look.
The document is pretty straight forward, but, Adobe freezes in the middle of processing—maybe that’s actually JFW freezing. Maybe Adobe is just fine with it.
However, NVDA doesn’t like it either.
Just in case anyone wants to look at it, it’s an eBook on using FreeDOS.
The file is at:
http://www.freedos.org/ebook/download/using-freedos-24.pdf
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Acrobat is always kind of sluggish. If it’s not a scanned image document and is straightforward in general (iE, an etext or something), you can use qRead. It’s a nice little programme that very quickly opens pdf and epub files. I like it because it’s very fast. However it doesn’t have many of the features Adobe has. It’s generally meant for books or similar context with straightforward, linear text.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Hi listers:
Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s. For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive. Is this becoming a problem? If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?
Thanks!
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Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
Joseph Norton
Thanks, I’ll give that a look.
The document is pretty straight forward, but, Adobe freezes in the middle of processing—maybe that’s actually JFW freezing. Maybe Adobe is just fine with it.
However, NVDA doesn’t like it either.
Just in case anyone wants to look at it, it’s an eBook on using FreeDOS.
The file is at:
http://www.freedos.org/ebook/download/using-freedos-24.pdf
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 12:12 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
Acrobat is always kind of sluggish. If it’s not a scanned image document and is straightforward in general (iE, an etext or something), you can use qRead. It’s a nice little programme that very quickly opens pdf and epub files. I like it because it’s very fast. However it doesn’t have many of the features Adobe has. It’s generally meant for books or similar context with straightforward, linear text.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Hi listers:
Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s. For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive. Is this becoming a problem? If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?
Thanks!
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Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
Bill White
It works better if you use the “Change reading options setting in the Edit menu, and choose “Raw print stream.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:35 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
I’ve always found it usable, but clunky as hell.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Apart from the fact that a large document say with 20 or 30 pages or even more takes a while to load I have no problems with ACrobat Readder being sluggish, once the document has loaded I can navigate it withut problems.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Acrobat is always kind of sluggish. If it’s not a scanned image document and is straightforward in general (iE, an etext or something), you can use qRead. It’s a nice little programme that very quickly opens pdf and epub files. I like it because it’s very fast. However it doesn’t have many of the features Adobe has. It’s generally meant for books or similar context with straightforward, linear text.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Hi listers:
Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s. For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive. Is this becoming a problem? If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?
Thanks!
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Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
I’ve always found it usable, but clunky as hell.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: September 21, 2018 12:20 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
Apart from the fact that a large document say with 20 or 30 pages or even more takes a while to load I have no problems with ACrobat Readder being sluggish, once the document has loaded I can navigate it withut problems.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Acrobat is always kind of sluggish. If it’s not a scanned image document and is straightforward in general (iE, an etext or something), you can use qRead. It’s a nice little programme that very quickly opens pdf and epub files. I like it because it’s very fast. However it doesn’t have many of the features Adobe has. It’s generally meant for books or similar context with straightforward, linear text.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Hi listers:
Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s. For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive. Is this becoming a problem? If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?
Thanks!
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Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
Apart from the fact that a large document say with 20 or 30 pages or even more takes a while to load I have no problems with ACrobat Readder being sluggish, once the document has loaded I can navigate it withut problems.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
JM Casey
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 9:12 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
Acrobat is always kind of sluggish. If it’s not a scanned image document and is straightforward in general (iE, an etext or something), you can use qRead. It’s a nice little programme that very quickly opens pdf and epub files. I like it because it’s very fast. However it doesn’t have many of the features Adobe has. It’s generally meant for books or similar context with straightforward, linear text.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Joseph Norton
Hi listers:
Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s. For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive. Is this becoming a problem? If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?
Thanks!
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Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
Acrobat is always kind of sluggish. If it’s not a scanned image document and is straightforward in general (iE, an etext or something), you can use qRead. It’s a nice little programme that very quickly opens pdf and epub files. I like it because it’s very fast. However it doesn’t have many of the features Adobe has. It’s generally meant for books or similar context with straightforward, linear text.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: September 21, 2018 11:42 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
Hi listers:
Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s. For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive. Is this becoming a problem? If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?
Thanks!
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Re: Annoying Jaws announcement every time I switch Outlook folders
Steve Nutt
No, it won’t help, I’m on Highlighted and it still does it.
All the best
Steve
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 20 September 2018 23:15 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Annoying Jaws announcement every time I switch Outlook folders
Hi Cristóbal,
One thought is maybe your screen echo has changed. While in Outlook press, Jaws key + S, to tobble through settings. They are Highlighted, All, & None. It sounds like it might be set on, All, so switch it to, Highlighted, and see if that helps. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- From: Cristóbal To: jfw@groups.io Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:42 AM Subject: Annoying Jaws announcement every time I switch Outlook folders
Hello list, I’ve been having this issue for a while now. I can’t recall when it started, but regardless, it happens every single time I switch folders in Outlook 2016. Be it a main inbox or subfolder, etc. I get the below message every time I switch folders. List box Connectivity to your server. Connected I don’t need to be informed that I’m connected all the time. Any ideas on how to stop this? I’ve got 6 email accounts configured with a mixture of imap and exchange. This will occur regardless if I switch to an imap folder. Anyway, I’m on Jaws 2018 and recently started to play with the JFW 2019 beta. This exact same behavior is occurring in the beta so I know at this point it’s not just my JFW 2018 version. I’m sure it has to do with a setting I’m not aware of or have perhaps by accident enabled. Thanks, Cristóbal
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Re: Annoying Jaws announcement every time I switch Outlook folders
Steve Nutt
No, it’s Outlook telling you that you are connected to the IMAP server. JAWS is just relaying information.
All the best
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: 20 September 2018 18:43 To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Annoying Jaws announcement every time I switch Outlook folders
Hello list, I’ve been having this issue for a while now. I can’t recall when it started, but regardless, it happens every single time I switch folders in Outlook 2016. Be it a main inbox or subfolder, etc. I get the below message every time I switch folders. List box Connectivity to your server. Connected I don’t need to be informed that I’m connected all the time. Any ideas on how to stop this? I’ve got 6 email accounts configured with a mixture of imap and exchange. This will occur regardless if I switch to an imap folder. Anyway, I’m on Jaws 2018 and recently started to play with the JFW 2019 beta. This exact same behavior is occurring in the beta so I know at this point it’s not just my JFW 2018 version. I’m sure it has to do with a setting I’m not aware of or have perhaps by accident enabled. Thanks, Cristóbal
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Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
Bill White
Another option is to use the “recognize with JAWS feature, and bypass Adobe Acrobat DC altogether.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 8:42 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
Hi listers:
Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s. For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive. Is this becoming a problem? If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?
Thanks!
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Re: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
Dan Longmore
Hi, make sure adobes accessibility settings are correct. Also if this is a tag document jaws will not work properly or adobe will be sluggish.
Get Outlook for iOS
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Joseph Norton <joseph.norton@...>
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 11:41:45 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader Hi listers:
Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s. For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive. Is this becoming a problem? If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?
Thanks!
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May need alternative to Adobe Acrobat Reader
Joseph Norton
Hi listers:
Recently, I have been needing to access some PDF’s. For some reason, whenever I try to use Acrobat Reader DC, the program seems to be very sluggish, sometimes, even unresponsive. Is this becoming a problem? If so, is there another solution that will work better with JFW?
Thanks!
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Re: Thinking of upgrading to 019
Chris Hill
Well, it won't erase your current version, so you have nothing to lose but a little time and space. The beta fixed my thunderbird problem, and hasn't broken anything I can find yet.
On 9/20/2018 20:51, David & his
pack of dogs wrote:
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Re: Gmail Web Interface - Quick Location of a Button
Steve Griffiths
Hi Brian,
I'm using Firefox. When I press Ctrl + F, the JAWS virtual find replaces the browser find window. If I'm at the top of the page and search for Settings, it takes me to the Chat settings button; if I then search again it gets me to the Settings button menu.
Another way to get there is with JAWSkey + F5, which lists all form fields, and then S a few times to Settings, then Enter to close the list and put focus on the button menu.
Or, it's just before the Main region. So press R until you get to that, then UpArrow once.
Steve 🐾
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 21 September 2018 00:56 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Gmail Web Interface - Quick Location of a Button
I agree with you that it makes no sense that JAWS find won’t find it. However, if you can sign into gmail with Internet explorer and see if JAWS find works, then it is a problem with Chrome finding text on a page.
Bill White
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
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David & his pack of dogs
I am having the same problem of it loosing focus. It has been going on for at least a couple of weeks. The only thing that seems to work is, windows D. I hate calling tech support with things like this because calling Microsoft I have got on the odd occasion someone who does not know what they are doing and they don’t fix the problem. They almost create a new one. I don’t have time to sit on hold, then wait a hour or so while they try and fix the problem. I have a job which does not entail sitting on hold baby sitting the phone. Then of course there is the problem I ran into this morning with BFO. The dreaded “It should work” then the calls mysteriously being disconnected. I don’t expect that much however, when a product costs hundreds of dollars, I have a right to expect good tech support, not the easy way out of saying for one thing, “It is not a true windows computer it is a mac book converted to a windows computer that is the problem.” Even a Bonafide windows computer had the same problem. Time to come up with another excuse.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: September 20, 2018 4:22 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws 2018 loses focus and stops voicing #jaws #fusion
Yes, getting the same issue from time to time with JAWS 2018. Have not yet seen it in the 2019 beta release. Agree, very annoying.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of jim.dykes@...
I do tech support for a state agency, and support a user on Fusion 2018. He has a 64 bit Windows 10 desktop machine with Office 2016. For this user, Jaws frequently seems to lose focus and stops voicing any detailed information. For example, it will voice "alt-tab" when those keys are used, but won't announce the window it's on and is completely silent if the user drops into any given window. The only fix I've come up with is completely closing and restarting Fusion. It seems to be connected with Office 2016, particularly Outlook. Also, does anyone know of a keyboard command to completely unload Fusion? Closing the software is nearly impossible for the user when Jaws is voicing so little information.
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Re: JAWS 2018 - Does it have the equivalent of NVDA's "Focus Highlight" Add-On?
Jason,
I appreciate the response. If only all of my clients were as up-to-date with their version of Windows as their version of JAWS. I need to dig in a bit and how (or if) this can be activated under Windows 7, as I have a few clients who are still using Windows 7. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: Thinking of upgrading to 019
David Pearson
Hello David, and dogs:
Did the customer “dis-service” dept also torture you by subjecting you to
“canned Muzak, and countless repetitions of “how important your call is to
them”(apparently, not enough for them to hire more staff!
Guess that I’m getting old, but it seems that your(my, and many
other’s) experience is happening more frequently than previously.
Sorry, but don’t know answer to your 2019 “techno-question-just wanted to
comiserate.
Sincerely,
wa4dsp
From: David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:51 PM
Subject: Thinking of upgrading to 019 I have been having problems with 018 for a while as in, it gives an error message of needing to install a driver. If the computer is shut down then started, no message. If just restarted, I get the error message. I phoned BFO this morning, talked to the tech. He did a repair as per the directive from the error message. Then he said, “It should work now.” Somehow the call got disconnected before he could check. I did not disconnect the call. To make a long story short, you guessed it, the should was a doesn’t. My sister who is developmentally delayed uses this term a lot when she does not want to do something. Most of the time, they should work means it won’t. Thus I am thinking of installing 2019 to see if that fixes the problem. I frankly don’t have time to sit on hold only to find out something does not work and the call gets disconnected before the tech finds this out. For the record, I had to call BFO back twice before even getting through because the call mysteriously got disconnected.
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Thinking of upgrading to 019
David & his pack of dogs
I have been having problems with 018 for a while as in, it gives an error message of needing to install a driver. If the computer is shut down then started, no message. If just restarted, I get the error message. I phoned BFO this morning, talked to the tech. He did a repair as per the directive from the error message. Then he said, “It should work now.” Somehow the call got disconnected before he could check. I did not disconnect the call. To make a long story short, you guessed it, the should was a doesn’t. My sister who is developmentally delayed uses this term a lot when she does not want to do something. Most of the time, they should work means it won’t. Thus I am thinking of installing 2019 to see if that fixes the problem. I frankly don’t have time to sit on hold only to find out something does not work and the call gets disconnected before the tech finds this out. For the record, I had to call BFO back twice before even getting through because the call mysteriously got disconnected.
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Re: JAWS 2018 - Does it have the equivalent of NVDA's "Focus Highlight" Add-On?
Jason White
JAWS does have this feature, and it’s supposed to work by default in Windows 10. See the “visual tracking” discussion at
From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
As the very odd man out being sighted but using screen readers for experimenting and figuring out issues, it is often difficult to know where they have focus at the moment, particularly if the object that focus is not visible on the screen and there is no attempt to scroll the screen to follow where the virtual cursor has focus. Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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