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Re: Firefox extended support release
ratshtron
would happen to have a direct link to download crome? thanks.
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Hi Marty,
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Re: open book
John Gurd
There are Open Book features that cannot be incorporated into JFW such as the ability to import and read various document formats. Personally, I think it is pretty disgraceful it has not been updated in years. It still can’t read Epub format for instance.
John
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Francisco Salvador Crespo
Sent: 17 September 2018 14:34 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: open book
It is clear that they expect to improve the product but we don’t know if they will release something in the next years or simply get red of OB and implement the advanced Reading features in Jaws. What we know is that VFO has a hole portfolio of hardware and software Reading tolos and OB features will have to be implemented somewhere.
De: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> En nombre de Richard Turner
Well, I’m not holding my breath. I was told that over 3 years ago, not by Eric, but by a couple other staff people.
Richard, the sceptic
“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Francisco Salvador Crespo
I asked Eric at his presentation to the NFB convention. His answer was that VFO will eventually release a new version but for now they are working hard on Jaws and some other things.. Enviado desde mi iPhone
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Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing
Jerry Berrier <jerry.berrier@...>
I have 24GB of RAM at home, and that does not help at all.
Jerry Berrier Director of Education Technology Perkins School for the Blind
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 2:09 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing
Me too, but I have 6 ram on laptop; wonder if that makes a difference. IE keeps freezing as does Firefox and Jaws is really acting crazy with Bookshare as well. Jaws 2018 that is. Jaws 17 works fine with Bookshare. So strange. Sharon
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Getting similar issues. Also frequently in Outlook 2016. So much to the point where it drove me off of my tower and I’m working mainly off of my laptop. Probably with more time, I’ll try to play around with the two to see if there are any extra processes, etc, but I’m genrealy good about that sort of thing. Anyway, The laggy, crashing and over all crappy Jaws performance I’ve been experiencing on my Dell tower for the past couple of weeks I so far haven’t experienced on my HP Envy laptop. Both PCs have I core 7 processors, but the tower has 8 GB or ram. Where as the laptop’s got 16. The issues on the tower have become so significant and sudden that I can’t think that it suddenly has to do with the ram. Running Windows 10, latest JFW 2018, current Firefox/Chrome etc on both machines. So who knows…
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
I’m noticing it, too, and one site, radio.com, crashes firefox, and I have to kill it with Task Manager.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
I’m wondering if anybody else is having this problem. I’m running Firefox version 62, latest version of JFW, and Windows 10. I’ll be arrowing down through a web page, and all of a sudden JAWS just stops reading. Sometimes it comes back after a few seconds, but not always. I especially notice it when reading the Boston Globe in NFB Newsline on the web.
Also when I’m using Google Docs, I’m noticing an irritating lag when I hit up or down arrow in a document.
Any thoughts on how to remedy this?
Jerry Berrier Director of Education Technology Perkins School for the Blind
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Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Cristóbal. I’m having this same lagging and freezing in Firefox. Here is my processor and RAM info.
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz 4.00 GHz Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.9 GB usable)
Here is my JAWS and Windows info:
About JAWS JAWS Job Access With Speech Home Use Edition Version 2018.1808.10 ILM
About Windows Microsoft Windows Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.285)
My Firefox version:
Firefox Version 62.0
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 10:54 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing
Getting similar issues. Also frequently in Outlook 2016. So much to the point where it drove me off of my tower and I’m working mainly off of my laptop. Probably with more time, I’ll try to play around with the two to see if there are any extra processes, etc, but I’m genrealy good about that sort of thing. Anyway, The laggy, crashing and over all crappy Jaws performance I’ve been experiencing on my Dell tower for the past couple of weeks I so far haven’t experienced on my HP Envy laptop. Both PCs have I core 7 processors, but the tower has 8 GB or ram. Where as the laptop’s got 16. The issues on the tower have become so significant and sudden that I can’t think that it suddenly has to do with the ram. Running Windows 10, latest JFW 2018, current Firefox/Chrome etc on both machines. So who knows…
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
I’m noticing it, too, and one site, radio.com, crashes firefox, and I have to kill it with Task Manager.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
I’m wondering if anybody else is having this problem. I’m running Firefox version 62, latest version of JFW, and Windows 10. I’ll be arrowing down through a web page, and all of a sudden JAWS just stops reading. Sometimes it comes back after a few seconds, but not always. I especially notice it when reading the Boston Globe in NFB Newsline on the web.
Also when I’m using Google Docs, I’m noticing an irritating lag when I hit up or down arrow in a document.
Any thoughts on how to remedy this?
Jerry Berrier Director of Education Technology Perkins School for the Blind
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Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing
Sharon
Me too, but I have 6 ram on laptop; wonder if that makes a difference. IE keeps freezing as does Firefox and Jaws is really acting crazy with Bookshare as well. Jaws 2018 that is. Jaws 17 works fine with Bookshare. So strange. Sharon
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 1:54 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing
Getting similar issues. Also frequently in Outlook 2016. So much to the point where it drove me off of my tower and I’m working mainly off of my laptop. Probably with more time, I’ll try to play around with the two to see if there are any extra processes, etc, but I’m genrealy good about that sort of thing. Anyway, The laggy, crashing and over all crappy Jaws performance I’ve been experiencing on my Dell tower for the past couple of weeks I so far haven’t experienced on my HP Envy laptop. Both PCs have I core 7 processors, but the tower has 8 GB or ram. Where as the laptop’s got 16. The issues on the tower have become so significant and sudden that I can’t think that it suddenly has to do with the ram. Running Windows 10, latest JFW 2018, current Firefox/Chrome etc on both machines. So who knows…
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
I’m noticing it, too, and one site, radio.com, crashes firefox, and I have to kill it with Task Manager.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
I’m wondering if anybody else is having this problem. I’m running Firefox version 62, latest version of JFW, and Windows 10. I’ll be arrowing down through a web page, and all of a sudden JAWS just stops reading. Sometimes it comes back after a few seconds, but not always. I especially notice it when reading the Boston Globe in NFB Newsline on the web.
Also when I’m using Google Docs, I’m noticing an irritating lag when I hit up or down arrow in a document.
Any thoughts on how to remedy this?
Jerry Berrier Director of Education Technology Perkins School for the Blind
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Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing
Cristóbal
Getting similar issues. Also frequently in Outlook 2016. So much to the point where it drove me off of my tower and I’m working mainly off of my laptop. Probably with more time, I’ll try to play around with the two to see if there are any extra processes, etc, but I’m genrealy good about that sort of thing. Anyway, The laggy, crashing and over all crappy Jaws performance I’ve been experiencing on my Dell tower for the past couple of weeks I so far haven’t experienced on my HP Envy laptop. Both PCs have I core 7 processors, but the tower has 8 GB or ram. Where as the laptop’s got 16. The issues on the tower have become so significant and sudden that I can’t think that it suddenly has to do with the ram. Running Windows 10, latest JFW 2018, current Firefox/Chrome etc on both machines. So who knows…
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:50 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing
I’m noticing it, too, and one site, radio.com, crashes firefox, and I have to kill it with Task Manager.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
I’m wondering if anybody else is having this problem. I’m running Firefox version 62, latest version of JFW, and Windows 10. I’ll be arrowing down through a web page, and all of a sudden JAWS just stops reading. Sometimes it comes back after a few seconds, but not always. I especially notice it when reading the Boston Globe in NFB Newsline on the web.
Also when I’m using Google Docs, I’m noticing an irritating lag when I hit up or down arrow in a document.
Any thoughts on how to remedy this?
Jerry Berrier Director of Education Technology Perkins School for the Blind
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Short: Can't find the link to the Jaws 2019 beta download, can anyone resend it?
Peter Tesar
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Re: JAWS keeps speaking the progress of streams
The layered keystroke you describe I don't think was available yet in Jaws 14, but I am not entirely certain since I used Jaws 14 a very long time ago, even have to think, in the fall of 2017 Jaws 2018 came out, so Jaws 18 was in 2016, Jaws 17 in 2015 so Jaws 14 would have been released in the fall of 2012. There would have been a keystroke to mute Jaws I think, just not sure if it was the layered keystroke or just Jaws Key+S, also, does the time elapsed still speak if you move focus away from the browser window?
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Debby Hill Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 5:35 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS keeps speaking the progress of streams Hi Dave, I have two ideas, but someone else may know others. First you can press the JAWSKey plus the letter S and cycle through what JAWS will say. The choices are all, none and highlighted. Mine has always defaulted to highlighted. That will stop it saying the numbers as they advance. Or you could use the layered keystroke JAWSKey then space and then S. This has the choices of speech on demand and full speech. Remember with both of these once you are done with the streaming, you will have to reset them. Hope this helps! Debby -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 5:00 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: JAWS keeps speaking the progress of streams Hello everyone: On my HP laptop, I am using Windows 7 and Jaws 14. When I am listening to streamed audio from any of the radio stations on the BBc web site, JAWS keeps announcing the elapsed time of any streamd audio I am listening too. Does anyone have a suggestion as to how I can stop JAWS from doing this. Thanks in anticipation. Dave Durber
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Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Alyssa. Maybe one of your computers has received some Windows 10 updates, and the other hasn’t received them yet.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alyssa
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:30 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing
Yes, I am having the problem. No, no idea how to fix it. I’ve installed a different version of Firefox and even changed some settings without any luck. It is very frustrating and nearly makes me want to use Chrome exclusively. Oddly, it’s only happening on one of my two computers which makes even less sense.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
I’m wondering if anybody else is having this problem. I’m running Firefox version 62, latest version of JFW, and Windows 10. I’ll be arrowing down through a web page, and all of a sudden JAWS just stops reading. Sometimes it comes back after a few seconds, but not always. I especially notice it when reading the Boston Globe in NFB Newsline on the web.
Also when I’m using Google Docs, I’m noticing an irritating lag when I hit up or down arrow in a document.
Any thoughts on how to remedy this?
Jerry Berrier Director of Education Technology Perkins School for the Blind
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Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
I’m noticing it, too, and one site, radio.com, crashes firefox, and I have to kill it with Task Manager.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 7:26 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Firefox Lagging and Freezing
I’m wondering if anybody else is having this problem. I’m running Firefox version 62, latest version of JFW, and Windows 10. I’ll be arrowing down through a web page, and all of a sudden JAWS just stops reading. Sometimes it comes back after a few seconds, but not always. I especially notice it when reading the Boston Globe in NFB Newsline on the web.
Also when I’m using Google Docs, I’m noticing an irritating lag when I hit up or down arrow in a document.
Any thoughts on how to remedy this?
Jerry Berrier Director of Education Technology Perkins School for the Blind
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Re: Firefox Lagging and Freezing
Alyssa <lyssassong@...>
Yes, I am having the problem. No, no idea how to fix it. I’ve installed a different version of Firefox and even changed some settings without any luck. It is very frustrating and nearly makes me want to use Chrome exclusively. Oddly, it’s only happening on one of my two computers which makes even less sense.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jerry Berrier via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 10:26 AM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Firefox Lagging and Freezing
I’m wondering if anybody else is having this problem. I’m running Firefox version 62, latest version of JFW, and Windows 10. I’ll be arrowing down through a web page, and all of a sudden JAWS just stops reading. Sometimes it comes back after a few seconds, but not always. I especially notice it when reading the Boston Globe in NFB Newsline on the web.
Also when I’m using Google Docs, I’m noticing an irritating lag when I hit up or down arrow in a document.
Any thoughts on how to remedy this?
Jerry Berrier Director of Education Technology Perkins School for the Blind
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Firefox Lagging and Freezing
Jerry Berrier <jerry.berrier@...>
I’m wondering if anybody else is having this problem. I’m running Firefox version 62, latest version of JFW, and Windows 10. I’ll be arrowing down through a web page, and all of a sudden JAWS just stops reading. Sometimes it comes back after a few seconds, but not always. I especially notice it when reading the Boston Globe in NFB Newsline on the web.
Also when I’m using Google Docs, I’m noticing an irritating lag when I hit up or down arrow in a document.
Any thoughts on how to remedy this?
Jerry Berrier Director of Education Technology Perkins School for the Blind
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Re: Firefox extended support release
Mario
you can use Chrome on Windows 7 but JAWS 13 is not likely to work with
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Chrome. JAWS 2018 is compatible with Chrome. Alternatively, you can try NVDA and Chrome if you're not able to upgrade to JAWS 2018.
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From: Andrew J. LaPointe [mailto:alapointe89@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, Sep 17, 2018 8:19 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Firefox extended support release *Hi, I am using windows 7 with jaws 13. Would I be able to use Chrome as a browser?? I am using firefox at the time but, constantly telling that it is outdated. I think that it would cost me a bundle to upgrade to windows 10 and jaws to what ever it is at this time. Can someone give me some suggestions? Thanks so much, Andy and Shubert* *From:* Marty Hutchings <mailto:mhutchings@wi.rr.com> *Sent:* Monday, September 17, 2018 8:04 AM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Firefox extended support release Paul, I have installed Chrome and you are right, it is much faster. I wish that I had discovered this a while ago and had all of that time back that I spent waiting for Firefox to download pages. Love in Christ Marty *From:* paul lemm <mailto:paul.lemm@sky.com> *Sent:* Monday, September 17, 2018 2:58 AM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Firefox extended support release Hi Marty, Chrome actually works really well with jaws 18, I haven’t had any issues with it at all. I also find chrome a lot faster than most other browsers, which is one of the main reasons I use it. ** ** *Paul* ** *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Marty Hutchings *Sent:* 17 September 2018 00:10 *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* Re: Firefox extended support release Paul, How does Crome work with JAWS 18? I am using Firefox version 52 and JAWS 18 and it works, but I have run into problems with some web pages and want a different browser and you say that you use Crome as your main browser with Firefox as a back up. Love in Christ Marty *From:*paul lemm <mailto:paul.lemm@sky.com> *Sent:*Sunday, September 16, 2018 4:46 PM *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:*Re: Firefox extended support release Hi Bill, I had the same issue the other day ,I’m only running jaws 18, so looks like that’s what the issue must be. In all fairness I actually use chrome as my main browser, but use Firefox as a backup. I should be able to find and download an older version of Firefox and work out how to prevent it updating, but just wanted to check which version of Firefox I would be looking to download that would still work with jaws 18. Can you confirm which version I’m looking for? As for the security side of everything, I completely understand risks of not using the most up to date browser and I’m fine with that side of things, especially since I really only use Firefox as a backup option as I mentioned previously. Paul *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Bill White *Sent:* 15 September 2018 23:58 *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Firefox extended support release Well, I did this for a number of years. I use Eset NOD32 as my antivirus, and I turned off all the threat measures in Firefox. I don’t need multilayers of protection, as long as my antivirus and firewall are working and up-to-date. If I were going to help someone do this, I would give them caveats, but many people don’t want to pay for another version of JAWS, and may want to stay with their same browser. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *JM Casey *Sent:* Saturday, September 15, 2018 3:49 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Firefox extended support release Hey Bill. You seem to know what you’re talking about in this group and so I don’t want to come off as overly critical…. But are you sure helping people to do this is really a worthy cause? At least, without some important caveats? Mozilla themselves do not recommend doing this. Version 52 won’t even be receiving security updates anymore. I suppose it’s all right, so long as people understand that it should be only a temporary measure til they get around to switching to a different course. *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Bill White *Sent:* September 15, 2018 6:45 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Firefox extended support release Hi, Marilyn. The problem is that whichever version of Firefox you had previously, it updated automatically, and, because you don’t have JAWS 2018, Firefox 62.0 will not work with your version of JAWS. The only thing to do is to download an earlier version of Firefox and, after installing it, make sure you disable automatic updating of Firefox. This takes a few steps to make sure it doesn’t update. If you are interested, Write back. I’ll have you call me, and I’ll also walk you through the process of disabling any future updates. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Bland *Sent:* Saturday, September 15, 2018 3:39 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Firefox extended support release I checked on my desktop and Firefox is there but I cannot tell what version it is. The whole message says “Display of tab content has been disabled. Update your screenreader software or switch to Firefox extended support release.” My laptop is set to automatically do updates, so I don’t know what the problem is. Thanks. Marilyn *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *JM Casey *Sent:* Saturday, September 15, 2018 5:22 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: Firefox extended support release Is that the whole extent of the message you are getting? It doesn’t sound like it’s telling you to do anything. Do you use firefox already? What version? *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Bland *Sent:* September 15, 2018 6:19 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Subject:* Firefox extended support release Hello all, Yesterday I had no problems with opening a link in the body of certain emails, but now I’m getting a prompt that says the link cannot open and I should do the following: “Firefox extended support release.” What does this mean? How would I go about doing this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much. Marilyn
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Re: open book
Francisco Salvador Crespo
It is clear that they expect to improve the product but we don’t know if they will release something in the next years or simply get red of OB and implement the advanced Reading features in Jaws. What we know is that VFO has a hole portfolio of hardware and software Reading tolos and OB features will have to be implemented somewhere.
De: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> En nombre de Richard Turner
Well, I’m not holding my breath. I was told that over 3 years ago, not by Eric, but by a couple other staff people.
Richard, the sceptic
“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Francisco Salvador Crespo
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 6:05 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: open book
I asked Eric at his presentation to the NFB convention. His answer was that VFO will eventually release a new version but for now they are working hard on Jaws and some other things.. Enviado desde mi iPhone
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Re: open book
Richard Turner
Well, I’m not holding my breath. I was told that over 3 years ago, not by Eric, but by a couple other staff people.
Richard, the sceptic
“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Francisco Salvador Crespo
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 6:05 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: open book
I asked Eric at his presentation to the NFB convention. His answer was that VFO will eventually release a new version but for now they are working hard on Jaws and some other things.. Enviado desde mi iPhone
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Re: open book
Francisco Salvador Crespo
I asked Eric at his presentation to the NFB convention. His answer was that VFO will eventually release a new version but for now they are working hard on Jaws and some other things..
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Enviado desde mi iPhone
El 17 sept 2018, a las 9:58, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> escribió:
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Re: open book
Richard Turner
I joined the Openbook beta team in about 2004 or so, and there has not been any traffic on that group since Openbook 9. I believe that was either late 2013 or early 2014. I personally suspect Openbook has gotten as good as it will ever get and VFO is focusing on the OCR in Jaws. But, I have heard nothing from VFO about Openbook, so that is pure speculation on my part.
Richard
“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
David & his pack of dogs
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 11:12 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: open book
The other question is if, there is another updated version of Open Book, would ones who purchased the 9 be able to get the newer version? Or would they have to shell out the extra money. At least ones who purchased Window Eyes were able to migrate for free to JAWS.
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main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Isaac
Hi, has anyone heard roomers or facts about a new openbook release, it would be nice to use vocalizer voices and other things as well?
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Re: JAWS keeps speaking the progress of streams
Debby Hill
Hi Dave,
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I have two ideas, but someone else may know others. First you can press the JAWSKey plus the letter S and cycle through what JAWS will say. The choices are all, none and highlighted. Mine has always defaulted to highlighted. That will stop it saying the numbers as they advance. Or you could use the layered keystroke JAWSKey then space and then S. This has the choices of speech on demand and full speech. Remember with both of these once you are done with the streaming, you will have to reset them. Hope this helps! Debby
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 5:00 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: JAWS keeps speaking the progress of streams Hello everyone: On my HP laptop, I am using Windows 7 and Jaws 14. When I am listening to streamed audio from any of the radio stations on the BBc web site, JAWS keeps announcing the elapsed time of any streamd audio I am listening too. Does anyone have a suggestion as to how I can stop JAWS from doing this. Thanks in anticipation. Dave Durber
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Re: Firefox extended support release
Andrew J. LaPointe
Hi, I am using windows 7 with jaws 13.
Would I be able to use Chrome as a browser?? I am using firefox at the
time but, constantly telling that it is outdated. I think that it
would cost me a bundle to upgrade to windows 10 and jaws to what ever it is at
this time. Can someone give me some suggestions? Thanks so much,
Andy and Shubert
From: Marty Hutchings
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox extended support release Paul, I have installed Chrome and you are right, it is much
faster. I wish that I had discovered this a while ago and had all of that
time back that I spent waiting for Firefox to download pages.
Love in
Christ
Marty From: paul lemm
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox extended support release Hi Marty,
Chrome actually works really well with jaws 18, I haven’t had any issues with it at all. I also find chrome a lot faster than most other browsers, which is one of the main reasons I use it.
Paul
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Paul, How does Crome work with JAWS 18? I am using Firefox version 52 and JAWS 18 and it works, but I have run into problems with some web pages and want a different browser and you say that you use Crome as your main browser with Firefox as a back up.
Love in
Christ
From: paul lemm Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 4:46 PM Subject: Re: Firefox extended support release
Hi Bill,
I had the same issue the other day ,I’m only running jaws 18, so looks like that’s what the issue must be. In all fairness I actually use chrome as my main browser, but use Firefox as a backup. I should be able to find and download an older version of Firefox and work out how to prevent it updating, but just wanted to check which version of Firefox I would be looking to download that would still work with jaws 18. Can you confirm which version I’m looking for? As for the security side of everything, I completely understand risks of not using the most up to date browser and I’m fine with that side of things, especially since I really only use Firefox as a backup option as I mentioned previously.
Paul
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Bill White
Well, I did this for a number of years. I use Eset NOD32 as my antivirus, and I turned off all the threat measures in Firefox. I don’t need multilayers of protection, as long as my antivirus and firewall are working and up-to-date.
If I were going to help someone do this, I would give them caveats, but many people don’t want to pay for another version of JAWS, and may want to stay with their same browser.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
JM Casey
Hey Bill.
You seem to know what you’re talking about in this group and so I don’t want to come off as overly critical…. But are you sure helping people to do this is really a worthy cause? At least, without some important caveats? Mozilla themselves do not recommend doing this. Version 52 won’t even be receiving security updates anymore. I suppose it’s all right, so long as people understand that it should be only a temporary measure til they get around to switching to a different course.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Bill White
Hi, Marilyn. The problem is that whichever version of Firefox you had previously, it updated automatically, and, because you don’t have JAWS 2018, Firefox 62.0 will not work with your version of JAWS.
The only thing to do is to download an earlier version of Firefox and, after installing it, make sure you disable automatic updating of Firefox. This takes a few steps to make sure it doesn’t update.
If you are interested, Write back. I’ll have you call me, and I’ll also walk you through the process of disabling any future updates.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Marilyn Bland
I checked on my desktop and Firefox is there but I cannot tell what version it is.
The whole message says “Display of tab content has been disabled. Update your screenreader software or switch to Firefox extended support release.”
My laptop is set to automatically do updates, so I don’t know what the problem is.
Thanks.
Marilyn
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
JM Casey
Is that the whole extent of the message you are getting? It doesn’t sound like it’s telling you to do anything. Do you use firefox already? What version?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Marilyn Bland
Hello all,
Yesterday I had no problems with opening a link in the body of certain emails, but now I’m getting a prompt that says the link cannot open and I should do the following: “Firefox extended support release.”
What does this mean? How would I go about doing this?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you so much.
Marilyn
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Re: Firefox extended support release
Marty Hutchings
Paul, I have installed Chrome and you are right, it is much
faster. I wish that I had discovered this a while ago and had all of that
time back that I spent waiting for Firefox to download pages.
Love in
Christ
Marty
From: paul lemm
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox extended support release Hi Marty,
Chrome actually works really well with jaws 18, I haven’t had any issues with it at all. I also find chrome a lot faster than most other browsers, which is one of the main reasons I use it.
Paul
From:
main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty
Hutchings
Paul, How does Crome work with JAWS 18? I am using Firefox version 52 and JAWS 18 and it works, but I have run into problems with some web pages and want a different browser and you say that you use Crome as your main browser with Firefox as a back up.
Love in
Christ
From: paul lemm Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 4:46 PM Subject: Re: Firefox extended support release
Hi Bill,
I had the same issue the other day ,I’m only running jaws 18, so looks like that’s what the issue must be. In all fairness I actually use chrome as my main browser, but use Firefox as a backup. I should be able to find and download an older version of Firefox and work out how to prevent it updating, but just wanted to check which version of Firefox I would be looking to download that would still work with jaws 18. Can you confirm which version I’m looking for? As for the security side of everything, I completely understand risks of not using the most up to date browser and I’m fine with that side of things, especially since I really only use Firefox as a backup option as I mentioned previously.
Paul
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Bill White
Well, I did this for a number of years. I use Eset NOD32 as my antivirus, and I turned off all the threat measures in Firefox. I don’t need multilayers of protection, as long as my antivirus and firewall are working and up-to-date.
If I were going to help someone do this, I would give them caveats, but many people don’t want to pay for another version of JAWS, and may want to stay with their same browser.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
JM Casey
Hey Bill.
You seem to know what you’re talking about in this group and so I don’t want to come off as overly critical…. But are you sure helping people to do this is really a worthy cause? At least, without some important caveats? Mozilla themselves do not recommend doing this. Version 52 won’t even be receiving security updates anymore. I suppose it’s all right, so long as people understand that it should be only a temporary measure til they get around to switching to a different course.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Bill White
Hi, Marilyn. The problem is that whichever version of Firefox you had previously, it updated automatically, and, because you don’t have JAWS 2018, Firefox 62.0 will not work with your version of JAWS.
The only thing to do is to download an earlier version of Firefox and, after installing it, make sure you disable automatic updating of Firefox. This takes a few steps to make sure it doesn’t update.
If you are interested, Write back. I’ll have you call me, and I’ll also walk you through the process of disabling any future updates.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Marilyn Bland
I checked on my desktop and Firefox is there but I cannot tell what version it is.
The whole message says “Display of tab content has been disabled. Update your screenreader software or switch to Firefox extended support release.”
My laptop is set to automatically do updates, so I don’t know what the problem is.
Thanks.
Marilyn
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
JM Casey
Is that the whole extent of the message you are getting? It doesn’t sound like it’s telling you to do anything. Do you use firefox already? What version?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Marilyn Bland
Hello all,
Yesterday I had no problems with opening a link in the body of certain emails, but now I’m getting a prompt that says the link cannot open and I should do the following: “Firefox extended support release.”
What does this mean? How would I go about doing this?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you so much.
Marilyn
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