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Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

Ed Legge <edward.legge@...>
 

Jared, if I may, could you give me a little more instruction on the steps for using the f3 to do a search in my Outlook.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 09:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

 

I’m sorry, but you’re obviously losing track of your own posts. What you stated I said, is actually your own words.

 

You may want to review this entire thread to understand where you went wrong. I believe I clearly posted the information, but for whatever reason you’re not accepting it and coming up with justifications to walk away from your misunderstanding.

 

Look, I’m not hear to argue, I want to help others, but there’s some knowledgeable people on these various lists whom experience a great amount of ego threat once their poor or incorrect suggestions are questioned. The goal of this list and similar lists is the accumulation of knowledge which will benefit the group and not a single individual. My apologies for not accurately considering the level to which my posts may come off to others. I will work on it, though I can’t predict how others will respond, nor can I satisfy everyone. It is also the responsibility of the reader not to take offense to a reply to their post; especially if it has proven to be incorrect.

 

My apologies to the list,

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 7:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

 

On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 09:36 PM, Jeremy wrote:

You can't right click on the shortcut to a program and say, "Open with," something else.

And, you can't.  You can't for a URL shortcut, either.

If you want a URL shortcut to open with a dedicated browser you have to engineer it.

I have no time for arguing with someone who wishes to pick nits when I've given a rule that applies 100% of the time with regard to URL shortcuts that are created via "the usual methods" and are not custom tweaked afterward.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

I’m sorry, but you’re obviously losing track of your own posts. What you stated I said, is actually your own words.

 

You may want to review this entire thread to understand where you went wrong. I believe I clearly posted the information, but for whatever reason you’re not accepting it and coming up with justifications to walk away from your misunderstanding.

 

Look, I’m not hear to argue, I want to help others, but there’s some knowledgeable people on these various lists whom experience a great amount of ego threat once their poor or incorrect suggestions are questioned. The goal of this list and similar lists is the accumulation of knowledge which will benefit the group and not a single individual. My apologies for not accurately considering the level to which my posts may come off to others. I will work on it, though I can’t predict how others will respond, nor can I satisfy everyone. It is also the responsibility of the reader not to take offense to a reply to their post; especially if it has proven to be incorrect.

 

My apologies to the list,

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 7:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

 

On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 09:36 PM, Jeremy wrote:

You can't right click on the shortcut to a program and say, "Open with," something else.

And, you can't.  You can't for a URL shortcut, either.

If you want a URL shortcut to open with a dedicated browser you have to engineer it.

I have no time for arguing with someone who wishes to pick nits when I've given a rule that applies 100% of the time with regard to URL shortcuts that are created via "the usual methods" and are not custom tweaked afterward.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

 

On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 09:36 PM, Jeremy wrote:
You can't right click on the shortcut to a program and say, "Open with," something else.
And, you can't.  You can't for a URL shortcut, either.

If you want a URL shortcut to open with a dedicated browser you have to engineer it.

I have no time for arguing with someone who wishes to pick nits when I've given a rule that applies 100% of the time with regard to URL shortcuts that are created via "the usual methods" and are not custom tweaked afterward.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

No, you emphatically stated one could not create a desktop shortcut to a webpage using a specific browser of one’s choice, and I stated it can in fact be done. As I read my email for the day, you came to this realization once Mario posted his message on the matter.

 

Here is your previous post:

“That's not how desktop shortcuts, except those to files, have ever worked.

 

You can't right click on the shortcut to a program and say, "Open with," something else.

 

I have never heard of anyone, prior to now, wanting web URLs to open with anything other than the web browser of their choosing.  If they want to use another one then they can open the shortcut itself, copy the URL, open the other web browser wanted at the moment, and paste it in.”

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 6:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

 

On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 08:45 PM, Jeremy wrote:

The information below is not true at all.

It is true and it describes the default behavior.  I've already discussed, as have others, including yourself, how to make specific shortcuts use specific browsers to open them.  This, however, must be forced by adding the full path to the browser executable you wish to use as part and parcel of the shortcut.

If you have a shortcut that is nothing but a URL it will always use whatever browser is defined as the default browser on that Windows system to open.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: accessible password generators

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Hi Mario,

About a year ago I took LastPass for a test drive, and I was not happy with it. Yes, it has ad-owns/extensions for most browsers, and it will work as advertised. As a full time JAWS user, I just didn't like the webpage interface, and I didn't like the immense amount of similar features, which resulted in tricky reading since there is such a thing as too much information. You can of course give it a shot for yourself, and I'm sure there are many on these lists using it, but man, there seems to be quite a learning curve. At the time I just didn't have the time to learn how to use it as thoroughly as I'd like, so I abandoned the whole idea and went back to KeePass, which is free and easy to use. :)

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 7:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: accessible password generators

Hope, I don't recall your status of vision impairment, but I totally rely on JAWS because I do not have sufficient vision to attempt to read the display. I forgot if you're using Windows 10 and I'm wondering if LastPass is JAWS friendly or is there a lot of using the JAWS cursor to perform actions?

I'm also wondering if LastPass is installed and the user specifies which
browser(s) are used, or is there plugins/addons/extensions for the major browsers that need to be installed?

------- Original Message --------
From: Hope Williamson via Groups.Io [mailto:isepic=lavabit.com@groups.io]
Sent: Saturday, Aug 25, 2018 12:25 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: accessible password generators

I will always love and recommend LastPass! https:///lastpass.com When you install the extension, it puts everything right in the context ( and/or the right click,) menu of the browser you're using so it's very convenient.




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Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

 

On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 08:45 PM, Jeremy wrote:
The information below is not true at all.
It is true and it describes the default behavior.  I've already discussed, as have others, including yourself, how to make specific shortcuts use specific browsers to open them.  This, however, must be forced by adding the full path to the browser executable you wish to use as part and parcel of the shortcut.

If you have a shortcut that is nothing but a URL it will always use whatever browser is defined as the default browser on that Windows system to open.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Hi Bill,

 

Both Internet Explorer and Firefox are rendered by JAWS using a virtual browser. In fact, I can drag and drop objects on the IRS webpage and alike using Firefox, but  its much trickier to do using IE.

 

Either way, drag and drop is a bit finicky, but it’s awesome when it works. One has greatest probability of success when dragging and dropping on the same screen.

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 2:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

 

Hi, Brian. Here’s what I think is happening. When Firefox is opened in JAWS, it is opened in a “virtual view”. This means that the user is not interacting directly with the screen. Instead, the user is interacting with the contents of a buffer, a virtual screen. I can drag and drop in Internet Explorer, which is not in a “virtual view”, but not in Firefox.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

 

Bill,

           If you are not successful, and you'd like "a pair of eyes" on just what's happening let me know.  I am always curious as to how and whether a solution can be found for simulated drag and drop using a screen reader for a given task, as it seems to have spotty success overall, at best.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Hi Brian,

 

Gave your suggestion below a try, but it didn’t seem to work using JAWS drag and drop. Gotta admit, I didn’t put too much effort into it because the desktop shortcut method takes about a minute, and I don’t really use shortcuts like this in my everyday computing.

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

 

On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 03:39 PM, Bill White wrote:

Hi, Brian. How do you know when you are on the “page icon, left of the address bar? I have never been able to locate this icon, even using the JAWS cursor.

Bill,

            It's very simple to get to, really, but what gets announced when you land on it varies depending on the browser you're using and, potentially, add-ons as well.  Regardless of what's announced, this is how you get there if you have focus on a web browser window:

  1. Hit ALT + D to navigate to the address box/URL box.
  2. Hit SHIFT + TAB to move to the most immediately prior object that allows interaction, which is this button.


You definitely still have to use the equivalent of drag and drop, so the web browser cannot be maximized and you must have a part of your desktop visible as the drop zone, at least when doing it the conventional way.  I do not know whether doing a screen reader left mouse lock for dragging, then bringing up the desktop afterward, then doing the drop might work for a screen reader user.  If you decide to give the latter a whirl please report back.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Oops, need to modify my previous message a bit.

 

Regarding creating shortcuts to webpages other than the default browser…

 

One must first include the path to the browser in quotes then add the URL to the webpage. Here’s an example:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe" https://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/JAWS

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 5:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

 

Hi Mike,

 

Funny. I agree on the billing point. J Regarding creating shortcuts to webpages using a browser other than the default browser, it can be done as I previously stated, just remember that you must add the path to the browser’s executable first, then add the URL second. Also know that the entire URL must be put in quotes or else the shortcut won’t work.

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 12:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

 

I know, it sucks,

They should have had the foresight to do those the same way they did files;

Typical short sightedness by software developers;

Bet they don’t screw up the billing though;

That always works like its supposed too;

 

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

 

That's not how desktop shortcuts, except those to files, have ever worked.

You can't right click on the shortcut to a program and say, "Open with," something else.

I have never heard of anyone, prior to now, wanting web URLs to open with anything other than the web browser of their choosing.  If they want to use another one then they can open the shortcut itself, copy the URL, open the other web browser wanted at the moment, and paste it in.

Web desktop shortcuts have always opened with the default web browser from day one.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Hi Mike,

 

Funny. I agree on the billing point. J Regarding creating shortcuts to webpages using a browser other than the default browser, it can be done as I previously stated, just remember that you must add the path to the browser’s executable first, then add the URL second. Also know that the entire URL must be put in quotes or else the shortcut won’t work.

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 12:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

 

I know, it sucks,

They should have had the foresight to do those the same way they did files;

Typical short sightedness by software developers;

Bet they don’t screw up the billing though;

That always works like its supposed too;

 

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

 

That's not how desktop shortcuts, except those to files, have ever worked.

You can't right click on the shortcut to a program and say, "Open with," something else.

I have never heard of anyone, prior to now, wanting web URLs to open with anything other than the web browser of their choosing.  If they want to use another one then they can open the shortcut itself, copy the URL, open the other web browser wanted at the moment, and paste it in.

Web desktop shortcuts have always opened with the default web browser from day one.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

The information below is not true at all. One can definitely specify which browser opens a website. One needs to modify the path of the shortcut, but it can be done.

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 11:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

 

That's not how desktop shortcuts, except those to files, have ever worked.

You can't right click on the shortcut to a program and say, "Open with," something else.

I have never heard of anyone, prior to now, wanting web URLs to open with anything other than the web browser of their choosing.  If they want to use another one then they can open the shortcut itself, copy the URL, open the other web browser wanted at the moment, and paste it in.

Web desktop shortcuts have always opened with the default web browser from day one.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Finding and accessing emails in Outlook using JAWS

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Yes, this is a good introductory webpage to the Instant Search pane (F3) in Outlook.

 

Please know that it will take a little bit of time to master this more modern method of searching, but that investment in time will pay off greatly!

 

Thanks Jason for posting the link.

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 10:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding and accessing emails in Outlook using JAWS

 

For more precise searching techniques, see the documentation at
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/learn-to-narrow-your-search-criteria-for-better-searches-in-outlook-d824d1e9-a255-4c8a-8553-276fb895a8da

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 8:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding and accessing emails in Outlook using JAWS

 

Actually, a faster method of accessing the same search box Seagar uses is to press F3. You can essentially run the same exact search within Outlook than one can run using the ControlAltF Advanced search method except there’s less tabbing using F3 as opposed to the Advanced search.

 

The Outlook search box can be used to find specific events or appointments within the calendar. You can also use the search box to find very specific pieces of information contained within your contacts such as birthday and family relationships. Press F3 then type in an area code to show all individuals in that area code. If you keep good notes per contact, you can quickly find business contacts using this search field.

 

There are some customizations you can make to specify where you want Outlook to search (inbox or all mail folders), but using the search box in Outlook is very easy, quick, and incredibly efficient for managing information associated with friends, family, and business.

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 4:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding and accessing emails in Outlook using JAWS

 

Sieghard,

 

Do you ever use the Ctrl shift F command as alluded to in the initial post? Seems to be a lot more filtering options with that option. If so, any suggestions as usually your input is pretty thorough?

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding and accessing emails in Outlook using JAWS

 

I usually use Control+E to go to the search box, type my search term, press enter and then I press Shift+Tab which puts me in a list of messages, the Inbox I guess with only those messages showing which meet the search term.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of jaws trial
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 1:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Finding and accessing emails in Outlook using JAWS

 

Hi,
I use JAWS 2018 in my Windows 10 PC. I use Outlook and was trying to find a particular email and used Shift + Ctrl + F for the same. The dialogue box popped up and I typed in what I was looking for. The email that was found using this method shows at the bottom of the dialogue box. However, I was unable to access it using the keyboard. Pressing Tab key took me back to the top of the dialogue box but not to the email that was found. The email, however, can be accessed by clicking on it. Can anyone help me on how I can access it using Keyboard?
Thanks!


Re: How do you "send shortcut to desktop" in Firefox 52?

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Yes, its Firefox extension appears to create a shortcut placed in a
customizable folder such as the desktop or Documents folder. One can then
use the other methods I posted in my previous email message on this matter
to create the desktop shortcut. This Firefox extension begs the question,
why not simply copy the URL to the clipboard and manually create the
shortcut. :)

I believe the final answer to the original question posed is that one cannot
create desktop shortcuts for webpages using Firefox in the same way it can
be done in Internet Explorer. Thumbs up for IE, but then again, my former
favorite browser's days are numbered. :)

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do you "send shortcut to desktop" in Firefox 52?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/savelink/

it appears to only create a "text" file for a shortcut that has the URL of a
website with a URL extension instead of a LNK (what's the difference?). so
the URL will open with the default browser, but how to make it open with
Firefox? I don't see a way, unless someone can layout the steps using this
extension. Jeremy did offer steps that don't rely on the installation of an
extension.


-------- Original Message --------
From: JM Casey [mailto:crystallogic@ca.inter.net]
Sent: Saturday, Aug 25, 2018 10:41 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: How do you "send shortcut to desktop" in Firefox 52?

Hey.



I posted the uRL last night, but I did not save it. Sorry. I'll have to find
it again. From the description though it seemed like that is what it was
made to do. I encouraged the OP to give it a try.







From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: August 25, 2018 10:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do you "send shortcut to desktop" in Firefox 52?



Could you share the name of said add-on?



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 7:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: How do you "send shortcut to desktop" in Firefox 52?



Hey jeremy.



I wasn't the OP, but that post got me curious about finding a solution to
this, and yeah, this should work! I don't use the desktop for much of
anything so it never even occurred to me that you couldn't do this as easily
in FF as you could in iE. Actually as I posted above, for mouse users it's
very easy to drag a URL onto the desktop from the address bar, but, alas,
Mozilla hasn't thought of a convenient way to do this from the keyboard. I
did find an add-on though, which, I think, is supposed to add an item to the
context menu as it appears in Internet Explorer.







From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: August 24, 2018 10:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: How do you "send shortcut to desktop" in Firefox 52?



I believe what is being suggested is the following:

Note: I copied and pasted the following from an item on the JAWS-Users list,
sorry I couldn't give direct credit to the author since he/she is not
stated.



Creating a website shortcut on the desktop for Firefox and Chrome

Unlike Internet Explorer, Firefox and Chrome do not seem to save bookmarks
as shortcuts,

instead they seem to be accessed from an HTML file.

Firefox does not appear to have any provision for sending a website shortcut
to the Desktop, hence the need for this work-around.



Mozilla Firefox:

If Firefox is your default browser, do the following:



1. Open the webpage you want, and copy the URL to the clipboard.

2. From the Desktop, press control + spacebar to deselect all items on the
desktop.

3. Press the applications key or Shift + F10 to open the context menu.

4. Arrow to the "New" sub-menu, and press enter.

5. Arrow to "Shortcut", and press enter.

6. When the shortcut dialogue opens, you will be in an edit field, so paste
the URL from the clipboard.

7. Tabb to the next button, and press the spacebar.

8. In this edit field, give your shortcut a name, then tab to finish, and
press the spacebar.

You are done.

Note:

If Firefox is not your default browser, then creating the shortcut as
outlined above will

result in that site opening in whichever is your default browser.



Browser specific shortcuts:

Note:

When making a website shortcut in this manner you may want to include the
browser name in the shortcut name,

so that when you go to that site you will know which browser it is opening
in.

Keep in mind, that these are browser specific, so they will open the site in
the assigned browser no matter what your default browser is.



If you want a specific webpage to open in a specific browser, for instance,
Internet Explorer is my default,

but I want a specific site to open in Firefox or Chrome, here's what to do:



Mozilla Firefox:

1. Open the webpage you want, and copy the URL to the clipboard.

2. Locate the executable for Firefox, then open the context menu, and choose
Desktop create shortcut from the SendTo sub-menu.

3. Go to the Desktop and locate the shortcut you just sent there.

4. Press Alt + Enter to open the properties of the shortcut.

5. In the shortcut dialogue, you will be in an edit field containing the
file path of the executable,

press the end key to move you to the end of the file path.

6. Press the spacebar once, then paste the URL from the clipboard.

7. Tab to the apply button, spacebar that, then tab to the okay button and
do the same.

You are done.



Google Chrome:

While on the website you want to create a desktop shortcut for do the
following:

1. Press Alt + F for the file menu.

2. Arrow to, "More Tools", and press enter.

3. In the resulting menu choose, "Add to Desktop", and press enter.

4. In the resulting edit field, the shortcut name will appear, you can
change this to your liking

then press enter to close the dialogue.

You are done.



Note:

On my system, I noticed when creating a shortcut in Chrome as described
above,

that when the page loads, there is only a context menu.,

however, when creating a browser specific shortcut as outlined above, the
standard Chrome menu is available.





Additional Note:

You can further customize any shortcut from within the properties of the
shortcut,

such as changing the name, assigning a keystroke, , or opening the site
maximized.



HTH



JR



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: How do you "send shortcut to desktop" in Firefox 52?



I tried this, and it does not directly work.

I guess you need to create some kind of file to place on the desktop; simply
copying the url as is tehre, I think, will not work.

I haven't investigated, but the format of whatever file is saved on the
desktop using IE that contains the uRL (and yes, it would be some kind of
shortcut file, possibly with extention .lnk?) should be easily replicatable.
This means you could simply open notepad, put your url in there using
whatever prefix characters are required, and save it to your desktop. But
I'm only theorising as I haven't looked into it much.



I did find this. It's an add-on for firefox that might add an item to the
context menus as they exist in ie. But you'll have to try it and see.



https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/savelink/


Start Menu

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi All,
 
I'm running latest Win 10 Pro, Classic Shell, and Jaws2018 latest.  When I open the Start menu with the Windows key and arrow down the list of start menu shortcuts Jaws reads me their type and location.  How and where do I change the setting to stop the excess squawking by Jaws?  I believe there's a setting in Win 10 for this behavior, but I'm unable to find its location.  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


Re: Finding and accessing emails in Outlook using JAWS

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Hi Bill,

 

I stated you could essentially run the same search using the Outlook Instant Search pane, but didn’t mean an identical search as the advanced search you are referring too.

 

For those whom have actually learned the method of searching using the Instant Search pane (F3), what you just stated can be done with the advanced search can also be done by pressing F3, which is why I suggested my faster method. Using F3 one can obtain the same result you suggested by omitting all operators and keywords. You might want to learn how to use the F3 method as it is not discussed much on these lists, and I think you could really benefit from using it if you run lots of searches.

 

The only time I’ve bothered with the Outlook advanced search is when I have read others on these lists suggest it. I thought maybe I was missing out on something, but to me it is a less inferior and slower method of searching than using F3.

 

Using the Advanced search in Outlook is comparable to using the old Windows+F search in Windows XP, which I find inferior to using the newer index searching in modern versions of Windows.

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 7:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding and accessing emails in Outlook using JAWS

 

Hi, JR. When you do a search using F3, it is not the same as doing one with CONTROL plus SHIFT plus F. When using CONTROL plus SHIFT plus F, there is a category which allows you to select whether you want the search done using subject, body, or frequently used text fields. The default is Subject. You won’t find as many hits with Subject as you will with frequently used text fields, and you won’t find this category in your search using F3.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 5:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding and accessing emails in Outlook using JAWS

 

Actually, a faster method of accessing the same search box Seagar uses is to press F3. You can essentially run the same exact search within Outlook than one can run using the ControlAltF Advanced search method except there’s less tabbing using F3 as opposed to the Advanced search.

 

The Outlook search box can be used to find specific events or appointments within the calendar. You can also use the search box to find very specific pieces of information contained within your contacts such as birthday and family relationships. Press F3 then type in an area code to show all individuals in that area code. If you keep good notes per contact, you can quickly find business contacts using this search field.

 

There are some customizations you can make to specify where you want Outlook to search (inbox or all mail folders), but using the search box in Outlook is very easy, quick, and incredibly efficient for managing information associated with friends, family, and business.

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 4:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding and accessing emails in Outlook using JAWS

 

Sieghard,

 

Do you ever use the Ctrl shift F command as alluded to in the initial post? Seems to be a lot more filtering options with that option. If so, any suggestions as usually your input is pretty thorough?

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding and accessing emails in Outlook using JAWS

 

I usually use Control+E to go to the search box, type my search term, press enter and then I press Shift+Tab which puts me in a list of messages, the Inbox I guess with only those messages showing which meet the search term.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of jaws trial
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 1:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Finding and accessing emails in Outlook using JAWS

 

Hi,
I use JAWS 2018 in my Windows 10 PC. I use Outlook and was trying to find a particular email and used Shift + Ctrl + F for the same. The dialogue box popped up and I typed in what I was looking for. The email that was found using this method shows at the bottom of the dialogue box. However, I was unable to access it using the keyboard. Pressing Tab key took me back to the top of the dialogue box but not to the email that was found. The email, however, can be accessed by clicking on it. Can anyone help me on how I can access it using Keyboard?
Thanks!


Re: How do you "send shortcut to desktop" in Firefox 52?

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Hi JM,

 

Your ad-on suggestion is definitely a good one, but I restrict my Firefox extensions to what is essential or else I’m going to end up turning the very nimble Firefox into Internet Explorer. J In other words, I don’t want to weigh down Firefox with too many extensions.

 

Thanks for taking the time out of your day to research and help us all.

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 7:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do you "send shortcut to desktop" in Firefox 52?

 

Hey jeremy.

 

I wasn’t the OP, but that post got me curious about finding a solution to this, and yeah, this should work! I don’t use the desktop for much of anything so it never even occurred to me that you couldn’t do this as easily in FF as you could in iE. Actually as I posted above, for mouse users it’s very easy to drag a URL onto the desktop from the address bar, but, alas, Mozilla hasn’t thought of a convenient way to do this from the keyboard. I did find an add-on though, which, I think, is supposed to add an item to the context menu as it appears in Internet Explorer.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: August 24, 2018 10:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do you "send shortcut to desktop" in Firefox 52?

 

I believe what is being suggested is the following:

Note: I copied and pasted the following from an item on the JAWS-Users list, sorry I couldn’t give direct credit to the author since he/she is not stated.

 

Creating a website shortcut on the desktop for Firefox and Chrome

Unlike Internet Explorer, Firefox and Chrome do not seem to save bookmarks as shortcuts,

instead they seem to be accessed from an HTML file.

Firefox does not appear to have any provision for sending a website shortcut to the Desktop, hence the need for this work-around.

 

Mozilla Firefox:

If Firefox is your default browser, do the following:

 

1. Open the webpage you want, and copy the URL to the clipboard.

2. From the Desktop, press control + spacebar to deselect all items on the desktop.

3. Press the applications key or Shift + F10 to open the context menu.

4. Arrow to the "New" sub-menu, and press enter.

5. Arrow to "Shortcut", and press enter.

6. When the shortcut dialogue opens, you will be in an edit field, so paste the URL from the clipboard.

7. Tabb to the next button, and press the spacebar.

8. In this edit field, give your shortcut a name, then tab to finish, and press the spacebar.

You are done.

Note:

If Firefox is not your default browser, then creating the shortcut as outlined above will

result in that site opening in whichever is your default browser.

 

Browser specific shortcuts:

Note:

When making a website shortcut in this manner you may want to include the browser name in the shortcut name,

so that when you go to that site you will know which browser it is opening in.

Keep in mind, that these are browser specific, so they will open the site in the assigned browser no matter what your default browser is.

 

If you want a specific webpage to open in a specific browser,  for instance, Internet Explorer is my default,

but I want a specific site to open in Firefox or Chrome, here's what to do:

 

Mozilla Firefox:

1. Open the webpage you want, and copy the URL to the clipboard.

2. Locate the executable for Firefox, then open the context menu, and choose Desktop create shortcut from the SendTo sub-menu.

3. Go to the Desktop and locate the shortcut you just sent there.

4. Press Alt + Enter to open the properties of the shortcut.

5. In the shortcut dialogue, you will be in an edit field containing the file path  of the executable,

press the end key to move you to the end of the file path.

6. Press the spacebar once, then paste the URL from the clipboard.

7. Tab to the apply button, spacebar that, then tab to the okay button and do the same.

You are done.

 

Google Chrome:

While on the website you want to create a desktop shortcut for do the following:

1. Press Alt + F for the file menu.

2. Arrow to, "More Tools", and press enter.

3. In the resulting menu choose, "Add to Desktop", and press enter.

4. In the resulting edit field, the shortcut name will appear, you can change this to your liking

then press enter to close the dialogue.

You are done.

 

Note:

On my system, I noticed when creating a shortcut in Chrome as described above,

that when the page loads, there  is only a context menu.,

however, when creating a browser specific shortcut as outlined above, the standard Chrome menu is available.

 

 

Additional Note:

You can further customize any shortcut from within the properties of the shortcut,

such as changing the name, assigning a keystroke, , or opening the site maximized.

 

HTH

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 7:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: How do you "send shortcut to desktop" in Firefox 52?

 

I tried this, and it does not directly work.

I guess you need to create some kind of file to place on the desktop; simply copying the url as is tehre, I think, will not work.

I haven’t investigated, but the format of whatever file is saved on the desktop using IE that contains the uRL (and yes, it would be some kind of shortcut file, possibly with extention .lnk?) should be easily replicatable. This means you could simply open notepad, put your url in there using whatever prefix characters are required, and save it to your desktop. But I’m only theorising as I haven’t looked into it much.

 

I did find this. It’s an add-on for firefox that might add an item to the context menus as they exist in ie. But you’ll have to try it and see.

 

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/savelink/


Re: Creating Webpage Desktop Shortcuts for Any Web Browser

 

Bill,

          I don't have JAWS to test with, but using NVDA and locking the left mouse button on that "URL Button" doesn't seem to have the desired effect, either.  It seems to grab the screen as a whole.  If I have the screen not maximized, hit the key sequence to lock the left mouse button, and try to move the real mouse the whole Firefox screen moves.

          I have always found drag and drop by keyboard to be a very dicey proposition.  That's one of the reasons I like the, "Copy the URL then use create shortcut on the desktop itself" method as it's foolproof for someone trying to do this strictly using the keyboard.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Finding and accessing emails in Outlook using JAWS

Alan Robbins
 

Jason,

 

Thanks, wow! Had no idea one could do so many different type searches. Glad there won’t be a test on this later 😊

 

al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding and accessing emails in Outlook using JAWS

 

For more precise searching techniques, see the documentation at
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/learn-to-narrow-your-search-criteria-for-better-searches-in-outlook-d824d1e9-a255-4c8a-8553-276fb895a8da

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 8:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding and accessing emails in Outlook using JAWS

 

Actually, a faster method of accessing the same search box Seagar uses is to press F3. You can essentially run the same exact search within Outlook than one can run using the ControlAltF Advanced search method except there’s less tabbing using F3 as opposed to the Advanced search.

 

The Outlook search box can be used to find specific events or appointments within the calendar. You can also use the search box to find very specific pieces of information contained within your contacts such as birthday and family relationships. Press F3 then type in an area code to show all individuals in that area code. If you keep good notes per contact, you can quickly find business contacts using this search field.

 

There are some customizations you can make to specify where you want Outlook to search (inbox or all mail folders), but using the search box in Outlook is very easy, quick, and incredibly efficient for managing information associated with friends, family, and business.

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 4:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding and accessing emails in Outlook using JAWS

 

Sieghard,

 

Do you ever use the Ctrl shift F command as alluded to in the initial post? Seems to be a lot more filtering options with that option. If so, any suggestions as usually your input is pretty thorough?

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding and accessing emails in Outlook using JAWS

 

I usually use Control+E to go to the search box, type my search term, press enter and then I press Shift+Tab which puts me in a list of messages, the Inbox I guess with only those messages showing which meet the search term.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of jaws trial
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 1:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Finding and accessing emails in Outlook using JAWS

 

Hi,
I use JAWS 2018 in my Windows 10 PC. I use Outlook and was trying to find a particular email and used Shift + Ctrl + F for the same. The dialogue box popped up and I typed in what I was looking for. The email that was found using this method shows at the bottom of the dialogue box. However, I was unable to access it using the keyboard. Pressing Tab key took me back to the top of the dialogue box but not to the email that was found. The email, however, can be accessed by clicking on it. Can anyone help me on how I can access it using Keyboard?
Thanks!


Re: windows narrator

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

Secretly trying to switch people to the i o s ecosystem.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: windows narrator

I’m ready for one!  No problem, glad I could help.

 

Les

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 11:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows narrator

 

Of course I did.  I was distracted by an issue with my new computer and wasn’t thinking straight.

Thanks for correcting that.

 

Is it too early for a strong adult beverage? 

Just kidding.

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 8:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows narrator

 

Richard,

 

I think you gave out the number for Apple Accessibility.  Microsoft Accessibility is:  (800)936-5900.

 

Les

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows narrator

 

I’ll echo Sieghard’s recommendation.  877-204-3930

Too many possibilities without a Microsoft person logging in to sort things out.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows narrator

 

I would recommend a call to Microsoft Accessibility, get them to connect and see what’s going on.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:14 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: windows narrator

 

Hi. is there a trouble shooter to fix windows narrator on windows 10 1803. When I sign in, don’t hear any voices, just the clicks and some times doing control windows enter will not turn off narrator. The only way to do that was to power down and then log back on, any one got a trouble shooter for this. Did google but could not seem to find any thing, also is there a trouble shooter for my soundcard.

Any ideas.

Thanks.

 

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Re: windows narrator

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

I’m ready for one!  No problem, glad I could help.

 

Les

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 11:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows narrator

 

Of course I did.  I was distracted by an issue with my new computer and wasn’t thinking straight.

Thanks for correcting that.

 

Is it too early for a strong adult beverage? 

Just kidding.

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 8:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows narrator

 

Richard,

 

I think you gave out the number for Apple Accessibility.  Microsoft Accessibility is:  (800)936-5900.

 

Les

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows narrator

 

I’ll echo Sieghard’s recommendation.  877-204-3930

Too many possibilities without a Microsoft person logging in to sort things out.

 

Richard

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: windows narrator

 

I would recommend a call to Microsoft Accessibility, get them to connect and see what’s going on.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:14 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: windows narrator

 

Hi. is there a trouble shooter to fix windows narrator on windows 10 1803. When I sign in, don’t hear any voices, just the clicks and some times doing control windows enter will not turn off narrator. The only way to do that was to power down and then log back on, any one got a trouble shooter for this. Did google but could not seem to find any thing, also is there a trouble shooter for my soundcard.

Any ideas.

Thanks.

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com