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Re: Seeking phone editor that works well with JAWS

Craig Cooper
 

After playing with the program a bit, the main obstacle I am facing is
figuring out how to set marks, to delete unwanted audio. What is the
key command to lay down marks at the start and end of audio that I
want to delete?
Thank you very much.
Craig

On 8/20/18, Isaac <bigikemusic@...> wrote:
write me off list
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Cooper" <craigcooper2013@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: Seeking phone editor that works well with JAWS


Thank you for all of the posts. I will download and begin learning
how to use GoldWave.

On 8/17/18, Steve Matzura <number6@...> wrote:
Phone editor?Don't you mean just a plain old waveform / audio file
editor? Have you tried Gold Wave?


On 8/16/2018 7:13 PM, Craig Cooper wrote:
Greetings,
I am trying to find the most efficient phone editing program to work
with JAWS. As part of my job at a radio station, I record calls that
come in, edit them for playback, and play back the call on air. I
have been working with Audacity for a week or so. It is free and
works fairly well with JAWS, but it also tends to crash frequently.
It is not hard to re-launch it, but it does take precious time, as I
frequently have to quickly edit a call for play back.
Your suggestions/recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much.
Craig









Re: jfe and chicken nugget

inamuddin khan
 

Dear, the matter of fact is that twitter has changed its method how to authorize your twitter account for your twitter’s client.

Chicken nugget has not updated it that’s why you are not able to login.

Now you have no option other than changing your twitter’s client.

I therefore would like to advise you to use TWBlue.

In order to download the latest TWBlue,

please click the following link

https://twblue.es/pubs/twblue_setup.exe

HTH

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...

Inamuddin.ronaque@...

outlook:
inam092@...

yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...

Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598 

+92-334-3348409

 

 

From: Francisco Salvador Crespo
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 1:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jfe and chicken nugget

 

I can report the exact same issue. But in my case, I had Chicken Nugget working well until a dialog box appeared saying that there was an error when logging-in. After that I was unable to log back in since the browser window never opened.

Did somebody else find this issue?. If so, could you find a workaround for it?.

 

Best.

 

-----Mensaje original-----

De: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> En nombre de Jed Barton

Enviado el: sábado, 11 de agosto de 2018 13:45

Para: main <main@jfw.groups.io>

Asunto: jfe and chicken nugget

 

Hey guys,

 

OK, hoping someone can help.  So i just installed chicken nugget on this computer.  All went well.  i went to go add an existing twitter account.  It said it opened up a browser window.  It said please log in with the brower window that was just opened.  1 problem, no browser window is open.  Any ideas why?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: jfe and chicken nugget

Francisco Salvador Crespo
 

I can report the exact same issue. But in my case, I had Chicken Nugget working well until a dialog box appeared saying that there was an error when logging-in. After that I was unable to log back in since the browser window never opened.
Did somebody else find this issue?. If so, could you find a workaround for it?.

Best.

-----Mensaje original-----
De: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> En nombre de Jed Barton
Enviado el: sábado, 11 de agosto de 2018 13:45
Para: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Asunto: jfe and chicken nugget

Hey guys,

OK, hoping someone can help. So i just installed chicken nugget on this computer. All went well. i went to go add an existing twitter account. It said it opened up a browser window. It said please log in with the brower window that was just opened. 1 problem, no browser window is open. Any ideas why?


Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

Bob Hicks
 

Hey Mike, it worked for me.

 

Have a great day, 73

 

Bob Hicks, KC8CR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 3:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

Hi Jeremy,

 

I couldn't get the link to work no matter how I tried to edit / post / search for it.  Do you have another URL?  Thanks much.


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Jeremy

Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 11:17 AM

Subject: Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

Hi all,

 

Because this issue of a startup sound is of great concern to many people on these blindness related lists, all opinions will be given quite a bit of scrutiny, so here goes my opinion. J

 

One doesn’t really need any sort of confirmation the computer has shut down since one can hear the computer fans and alike no longer spinning, not to mention closing the lid will also insure a laptop is in sleep mode or shut down. One can also tap the keyboard to insure the computer has actually gone into shut down mode. It has not been a problem for me at all, and I’ve been using Windows 10 since day one on my very quiet laptop. I do admit that this issue did bother me at first, and I did all the crazy stuff many have tried including registry hacks that never did work or that Microsoft disabled upon next operating system upgrade.

 

The following utility did work very, very well and is 100% accessible. This utility will let you know when your computer is turning on and when it is shutting down—it says using the Narrator voice “hello” and “goodbye.” I originally installed it to play a short beep every hour on the hour as well as for automatically maximizing all Windows. This utility has lots of great features, and it is incredibly stable. I believe the software developer is a fellow blind person but nevertheless a very talented programmer. I should also add that I’m using this utility while my laptop is on fast startup.

 

Stassen - Stascom –

https://is.gd/OUNxjJ

 

HTH

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 7:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

While this is not directly JAWS related, the issue of lack of a "coming back from being shut down when using Fast Startup" sound, as well as the lack of the good, old-fashioned shutdown sound, under Windows 10 comes up repeatedly on virtually every screen reader related group I'm participating in.  

I have just created feedback related to both, and here's the click-through link to the Windows 10 Feedback Hub for it (which, of course, only works for Windows 10 users):

               "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

If this is an accessibility issue for you, please review this feedback and upvote it so that it will garner more attention.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Hi Mike,

 

I pressed enter on my originally sent email message below, and the link worked. Weird it didn’t work for you, but that’s computers for you.:)

 

Here is the long URL:

https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

Hi Jeremy,

 

I couldn't get the link to work no matter how I tried to edit / post / search for it.  Do you have another URL?  Thanks much.


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

From: Jeremy

Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 11:17 AM

Subject: Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

Hi all,

 

Because this issue of a startup sound is of great concern to many people on these blindness related lists, all opinions will be given quite a bit of scrutiny, so here goes my opinion. J

 

One doesn’t really need any sort of confirmation the computer has shut down since one can hear the computer fans and alike no longer spinning, not to mention closing the lid will also insure a laptop is in sleep mode or shut down. One can also tap the keyboard to insure the computer has actually gone into shut down mode. It has not been a problem for me at all, and I’ve been using Windows 10 since day one on my very quiet laptop. I do admit that this issue did bother me at first, and I did all the crazy stuff many have tried including registry hacks that never did work or that Microsoft disabled upon next operating system upgrade.

 

The following utility did work very, very well and is 100% accessible. This utility will let you know when your computer is turning on and when it is shutting down—it says using the Narrator voice “hello” and “goodbye.” I originally installed it to play a short beep every hour on the hour as well as for automatically maximizing all Windows. This utility has lots of great features, and it is incredibly stable. I believe the software developer is a fellow blind person but nevertheless a very talented programmer. I should also add that I’m using this utility while my laptop is on fast startup.

 

Stassen - Stascom –

https://is.gd/OUNxjJ

 

HTH

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 7:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

While this is not directly JAWS related, the issue of lack of a "coming back from being shut down when using Fast Startup" sound, as well as the lack of the good, old-fashioned shutdown sound, under Windows 10 comes up repeatedly on virtually every screen reader related group I'm participating in.  

I have just created feedback related to both, and here's the click-through link to the Windows 10 Feedback Hub for it (which, of course, only works for Windows 10 users):

               "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

If this is an accessibility issue for you, please review this feedback and upvote it so that it will garner more attention.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi Jeremy,
 
I couldn't get the link to work no matter how I tried to edit / post / search for it.  Do you have another URL?  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeremy
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

Hi all,

 

Because this issue of a startup sound is of great concern to many people on these blindness related lists, all opinions will be given quite a bit of scrutiny, so here goes my opinion. J

 

One doesn’t really need any sort of confirmation the computer has shut down since one can hear the computer fans and alike no longer spinning, not to mention closing the lid will also insure a laptop is in sleep mode or shut down. One can also tap the keyboard to insure the computer has actually gone into shut down mode. It has not been a problem for me at all, and I’ve been using Windows 10 since day one on my very quiet laptop. I do admit that this issue did bother me at first, and I did all the crazy stuff many have tried including registry hacks that never did work or that Microsoft disabled upon next operating system upgrade.

 

The following utility did work very, very well and is 100% accessible. This utility will let you know when your computer is turning on and when it is shutting down—it says using the Narrator voice “hello” and “goodbye.” I originally installed it to play a short beep every hour on the hour as well as for automatically maximizing all Windows. This utility has lots of great features, and it is incredibly stable. I believe the software developer is a fellow blind person but nevertheless a very talented programmer. I should also add that I’m using this utility while my laptop is on fast startup.

 

Stassen - Stascom –

https://is.gd/OUNxjJ

 

HTH

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 7:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

While this is not directly JAWS related, the issue of lack of a "coming back from being shut down when using Fast Startup" sound, as well as the lack of the good, old-fashioned shutdown sound, under Windows 10 comes up repeatedly on virtually every screen reader related group I'm participating in.  

I have just created feedback related to both, and here's the click-through link to the Windows 10 Feedback Hub for it (which, of course, only works for Windows 10 users):

               "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

If this is an accessibility issue for you, please review this feedback and upvote it so that it will garner more attention.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: out look express

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 

Hi Joe,
 
The steps below are for WLM, but should work in OE as well.
 
From: "David Bailes" <
david_bailes@...>
 
Hi,
 
If you're using the 2011 version of windows live mail, then the graphics which
indicate unread, attachment, etc are not labeled by default. Hopefully, this
will be fixed soon in an update to jaws 12. However, you can label these
manually
 
yourself, as follows:
1. Open windows live mail.
2. Normally, Jaws is set not to read any unlabeled graphics.  To temporarily
change this setting so that it reads them, so that you can find them and label
them: press insert+v to open the adjust jaws options dialog; press G until you
get to the item Graphics - labeled; press spacebar to cycle to the next option
for this setting which is graphics - all, and then press enter to press the
default close button.
3. When jaws reads a message in the message list, it now reads each unlabeled
graphic as graphic followed by a number, and these all occur before the senders
name. The graphic to label as unread is graphic 656. Other unlabeled graphics
include graphic 160 which indicates attachment, and if you use the conversation
view, then graphics 563 and 105 indicate
collapsed and expanded respectively. Note that graphic 294 indictates a read
message, and you'll probably want to leave this graphic unlabeled.
4. To label a graphic, for example graphic 656 as unread: move to a message in
the list which is unread, that is jaws says graphic 656 when reading it; press
insert + numpad minus to route the jaws cursor to the pc cursor - this places
the jaws cursor at the beginning of the senders name; press left arrow till you
get to graphic 656; press insert + g to open the graphics labeler dialog; the
initial focus is a label edit box, with the text graphic 656 selected; type
unread, and the press enter to press the default ok button.
5. Repeat step 4 to label any other unlabeled graphics that you want to label.
6. If you close and reopen windows live mail, the jaws setting for reading
graphics will have returned to just reading labeled graphics.
 
David.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 8:48 AM
Subject: out look express

hi all   
 
I am using out look express windows 10 and jaws 18
so  when a mail comes in jaws doesnt say which of my mails are read and unread, I think on my last Pc I had to lable some sort of symbal or icon but I cant recall how i did this, so can any one tell me what I need to do to make jaws tell me which of my mails are unread.
so thats my first question now my second one is if I try to check my spelling and grammar  normaly I would press f7  and it would do it  but  this isnt working and if i go to tools  the spelling and grammar option is disabled. but it works ok in microsoft word,.
so can any one offer any advice ?
               
thanks in advance Joe
 
 
thanks in advance Joe


Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Hi all,

Regarding backup software...

I tried many of the commonly used suggestions such as Image for Windows and alike, and I found them to be more of a time consuming process than useful. Many times these system images completed just fine, but when tested for integrity, they had problems--this was especially true for my computers with SSDs. When the time to image my computer came along, the images either failed or they resulted in weird quirks such as very long boot times and alike. I'm sure many of these problems won't happen if one has a relatively simple computer configuration, but when you have tons of software titles and Windows updates installed, these imaging solutions begin having problems do to all the complexity. I ultimately gave up on imaging Windows as precious time gets eaten up when one has to manage many computers.

I found the best solution for me is RollBackRX. If anything went wrong with my computer I simply ran a previous snapshot, and I was up and going in a couple of minutes. Yes, system images have their place, but often problems with Windows can be fixed very quickly by running a previous snapshot. RollBackRX is also extremely useful for those whom test lots of software as they can install new titles, and if one is not happy with the results, simply use RollBackRX to revert the computer to a previously working state.

RollBack Rx Home | Horizon DataSys Corporation -
https://is.gd/RBg6A4

HTH

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Crashplan was always partially accessible, but I gave it up when they abolished the feature to send you a disk in case of a disaster and you could not really do a full system image on it and it became very slow over time.

On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 09:11:34 -0400,
Steve Nutt wrote:

Is it accessible?

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: 22 August 2018 13:33
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

What about CrashPlan? It's 1.5 times the price of an annual one-terabyte Dropbox plan, but has no limits. Or none that I've been able to find.


On 8/20/2018 1:33 PM, Jeremy wrote:
That much data will likely cost you quite a bit of cash to upload to cloud storage such as OneDrive, Dropbox, Carbonite, etc., not to mention the amount of time it will take to upload the information. If you're not constantly modifying the data, then the previous cloud storage solutions will not be all that useful to you. I suggest purchasing external hard drives. I have always purchased Western Digital Black or Seagate drives and never had a problem. For data backup you will not want to skimp on quality. :) Take a look at the following drive:

Amazon.com: WD 4TB Elements Portable External Hard Drive - USB 3.0
$99
https://is.gd/HJwtP2

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed
Barton
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 9:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Hey guys. So speaking of backup software, got something i wanna do.
I ahve a feeling it won't be easy.
I do a lot of work with audio and have several tb of audio, including audio projects that i can't lose. Looking for a good place to put them for safe keeping. It includes a lot of audio music beds and stuff, not for distrobution, just for safe keeping. Any ideas for a good solution for this. I've got about 8 TB worth of stuff. I know, not an easy task.

On 8/20/18, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:
Steve provides the link to this backup software which, as the name
implies, backs up your files and sytem. If you click on the link
you will be able to read the following summary:

Backup Everything!
Discover the renowned backup, restore, and synchronisation software
SyncBackPro . Backup to disk, network, FTP, the Cloud, MTP, email,
Windows, Linux, macOS & Android!



Discounts & Bundles

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed
Barton
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 8:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

can you tell me about this backup software, what does it do?

On 8/20/18, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:
Hi,

Yes, Syncback, or Syncback Pro from http://www.2brightsparks.com

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Ingram
Sent: 16 August 2018 03:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Hi list members, does anyone know of backup software that we can
use with jaws?










--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...


Re: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Hi all,

 

Because this issue of a startup sound is of great concern to many people on these blindness related lists, all opinions will be given quite a bit of scrutiny, so here goes my opinion. J

 

One doesn’t really need any sort of confirmation the computer has shut down since one can hear the computer fans and alike no longer spinning, not to mention closing the lid will also insure a laptop is in sleep mode or shut down. One can also tap the keyboard to insure the computer has actually gone into shut down mode. It has not been a problem for me at all, and I’ve been using Windows 10 since day one on my very quiet laptop. I do admit that this issue did bother me at first, and I did all the crazy stuff many have tried including registry hacks that never did work or that Microsoft disabled upon next operating system upgrade.

 

The following utility did work very, very well and is 100% accessible. This utility will let you know when your computer is turning on and when it is shutting down—it says using the Narrator voice “hello” and “goodbye.” I originally installed it to play a short beep every hour on the hour as well as for automatically maximizing all Windows. This utility has lots of great features, and it is incredibly stable. I believe the software developer is a fellow blind person but nevertheless a very talented programmer. I should also add that I’m using this utility while my laptop is on fast startup.

 

Stassen - Stascom –

https://is.gd/OUNxjJ

 

HTH

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 7:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

While this is not directly JAWS related, the issue of lack of a "coming back from being shut down when using Fast Startup" sound, as well as the lack of the good, old-fashioned shutdown sound, under Windows 10 comes up repeatedly on virtually every screen reader related group I'm participating in.  

I have just created feedback related to both, and here's the click-through link to the Windows 10 Feedback Hub for it (which, of course, only works for Windows 10 users):

               "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

If this is an accessibility issue for you, please review this feedback and upvote it so that it will garner more attention.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: JAWS and Excel - problem reading cells still exists

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Alan,

Thanks for taking the time to post such a great solution. I just made this
very simple modification within Excel, and it works like a charm!

Thank you for posting this information, and thanks goes out to Brandon or
whomever discovered this solution. :)

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via
Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Excel - problem reading cells still exists

Hello,

Here are some notes I saved from Branden a while back which fixed this
problem for me.

Excel problem
One issue we have encountered recently is with Editing text in Excel.
This has generated some helpful discussion and testing by users of GitHub,
and the NVDA e-mail group. For some Excel users, when pressing F2 to edit a
cell, NVDA announces "Unknown". It then won't read any text in that cell.
This seems to have started after a recent update from Microsoft. The
workaround that seems to fix the issue for most users, is to uncheck "Allow
editing directly in cells". Not everyone is experiencing this, but if you
are, you can change this setting by doing the following:
1. Have Excel open.
2. Press "alt+f" to open the file menu then press "t" for the options.
3. Press "control+tab" until the focus is on the "Advanced" options page.
4. Press "alt+e" to toggle the "Allow editing directly in cells"
option. Ensure that this is unchecked.
5. Press "enter" to save the changes. Editing cell contents should now work
again.
Note that in turning this setting off, does change things slightly for
visual users:
. With editing directly in cells enabled, when F2 is pressed, the caret
appears in the cell itself. Text which would flow out of the cell flows to
the right, then to lines below. Cells covered by this text are hidden while
this happens. Text in the edited cell is coloured to highlight cell
references and parenthesis.
. With editing directly in cells disabled, when F2 is pressed, the caret
appears in the formula bar above the worksheet. Colouring of formula
elements is also done in the formula bar rather than the cell while editing.
Only text which fits in the cell is visible in the cell while the formula is
being edited.

I hope this helps,

Brandon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas C. DeCamp
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 8:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Excel - problem reading cells still exists

JR,
While my problem is slightly different, it also was still not fixed. Mine
can't read cell formulas with references to other cells. I notified VFO
that my incident has still not been fixed and they indicated the incident #
would be upgraded again for another look. I provided them large amounts of
doc a couple of months ago. I sure hope they get it this time as it causes
me quite a bit of difficulty working around it.
--hth ---
DD

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 10:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Excel - problem reading cells still exists

Hi all,

I hope others have different results, but I'm still experiencing the problem
of JAWS not being able to read text in cells within Excel when I press F2.

I have discovered that if I type 8 characters or less, I can press F2 and
arrow through the letters and make my edits. If the cell contains a word or
words with more than 8 characters, and if I press F2, JAWS cannot read the
text inside the cell. It appears it's the number of characters in a cell
that trips up JAWS.

Hmm, for whatever reason it seems as though VFO is struggling to fix this
problem since it has existed for quite a bit of time and different versions
of JAWS.

JR


Re: JAWS and Excel - problem reading cells still exists

Alan Robbins
 

Hello,

Here are some notes I saved from Branden a while back which fixed this
problem for me.

Excel problem
One issue we have encountered recently is with Editing text in Excel.
This has generated some helpful discussion and testing by users of GitHub,
and the NVDA e-mail group. For some Excel users, when pressing F2 to edit a
cell, NVDA announces "Unknown". It then won't read any text in that cell.
This seems to have started after a recent update from Microsoft. The
workaround that seems to fix the issue for most users, is to uncheck "Allow
editing directly in cells". Not everyone is experiencing this, but if you
are, you can change this setting by doing the following:
1. Have Excel open.
2. Press "alt+f" to open the file menu then press "t" for the options.
3. Press "control+tab" until the focus is on the "Advanced" options page.
4. Press "alt+e" to toggle the "Allow editing directly in cells"
option. Ensure that this is unchecked.
5. Press "enter" to save the changes. Editing cell contents should now work
again.
Note that in turning this setting off, does change things slightly for
visual users:
. With editing directly in cells enabled, when F2 is pressed, the caret
appears in the cell itself. Text which would flow out of the cell flows to
the right, then to lines below. Cells covered by this text are hidden while
this happens. Text in the edited cell is coloured to highlight cell
references and parenthesis.
. With editing directly in cells disabled, when F2 is pressed, the caret
appears in the formula bar above the worksheet. Colouring of formula
elements is also done in the formula bar rather than the cell while editing.
Only text which fits in the cell is visible in the cell while the formula is
being edited.

I hope this helps,

Brandon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Douglas C. DeCamp
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 8:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Excel - problem reading cells still exists

JR,
While my problem is slightly different, it also was still not fixed. Mine
can't read cell formulas with references to other cells. I notified VFO
that my incident has still not been fixed and they indicated the incident #
would be upgraded again for another look. I provided them large amounts of
doc a couple of months ago. I sure hope they get it this time as it causes
me quite a bit of difficulty working around it.
--hth ---
DD

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 10:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Excel - problem reading cells still exists

Hi all,

I hope others have different results, but I'm still experiencing the problem
of JAWS not being able to read text in cells within Excel when I press F2.

I have discovered that if I type 8 characters or less, I can press F2 and
arrow through the letters and make my edits. If the cell contains a word or
words with more than 8 characters, and if I press F2, JAWS cannot read the
text inside the cell. It appears it's the number of characters in a cell
that trips up JAWS.

Hmm, for whatever reason it seems as though VFO is struggling to fix this
problem since it has existed for quite a bit of time and different versions
of JAWS.

JR


Re: JAWS and Excel - problem reading cells still exists

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Yes, I always perform all Office accessibility tweaks on all the machines I work on. :)

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 7:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Excel - problem reading cells still exists

JR, just a suggestion, did you disable the back stage view setting? I don't know if there are other settings to disable (like the preview pane I've heard) that might help. what version of JAWS and Excel are you using?



-------- Original Message --------
From: Jeremy [mailto:jeremy.richards7@...]
Sent: Wednesday, Aug 22, 2018 12:12 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Excel - problem reading cells still exists

Yes, good suggestion, but I did not have to expand any column in the past.

Thanks,

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Tessore
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 9:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Excel - problem reading cells still exists

I don’t know if this is the cause of your issue, but it may be worth looking at.
When I was still able to use ZoomText I learned that unless I expanded the width of a column I couldn’t see all the characters in the cell.
Expanding that column would reveal that text I KNEW was there.

Shalom,

Bill Tessore
billtessore@...
On Aug 21, 2018, at 8:35 PM, Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I hope others have different results, but I'm still experiencing the problem of JAWS not being able to read text in cells within Excel when I press F2.

I have discovered that if I type 8 characters or less, I can press F2 and arrow through the letters and make my edits. If the cell contains a word or words with more than 8 characters, and if I press F2, JAWS cannot read the text inside the cell. It appears it's the number of characters in a cell that trips up JAWS.

Hmm, for whatever reason it seems as though VFO is struggling to fix this problem since it has existed for quite a bit of time and different versions of JAWS.

JR











.


Re: JAWS and Excel - problem reading cells still exists

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Please carefully review my original message on this topic for an explanation
of what might be happening on your computer.

By the way, I originally forgot to mention that my comments are associated
with the new JAWS 2018 August update.

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 5:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Excel - problem reading cells still exists

When I press F2 on a particular cell, Jaws will read everything in that
cell. Yet some of the cells I cannot arrow character by character. Has
anyone heard of this problem?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 10:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Excel - problem reading cells still exists

Hi all,

I hope others have different results, but I'm still experiencing the problem
of JAWS not being able to read text in cells within Excel when I press F2.

I have discovered that if I type 8 characters or less, I can press F2 and
arrow through the letters and make my edits. If the cell contains a word or
words with more than 8 characters, and if I press F2, JAWS cannot read the
text inside the cell. It appears it's the number of characters in a cell
that trips up JAWS.

Hmm, for whatever reason it seems as though VFO is struggling to fix this
problem since it has existed for quite a bit of time and different versions
of JAWS.

JR


out look express

Joe Stinton <stintonjoe@...>
 

hi all   
 
I am using out look express windows 10 and jaws 18
so  when a mail comes in jaws doesnt say which of my mails are read and unread, I think on my last Pc I had to lable some sort of symbal or icon but I cant recall how i did this, so can any one tell me what I need to do to make jaws tell me which of my mails are unread.
so thats my first question now my second one is if I try to check my spelling and grammar  normaly I would press f7  and it would do it  but  this isnt working and if i go to tools  the spelling and grammar option is disabled. but it works ok in microsoft word,.
so can any one offer any advice ?
               
thanks in advance Joe
 
 
thanks in advance Joe


Re: Can I mask some extra chatter?

 

Not saying it’s not a good idea to ask here, we have a lot of smart people and Jaws experts here, but if you don’t get the answer you are looking for I would definitely try Jaws Tech Support, they might be able to help.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 7:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Can I mask some extra chatter?

 

I went and looked, I am using the intermediate setting.

What sort of information would I be looking to turn off that would result in hearing Read Only. What sort of information is this?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Can I mask some extra chatter?

 

Can you use your JAWS verbosity settings? I think this is in the setting center, but I am not sure.

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Jessica D <jldail13@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:08:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Can I mask some extra chatter?

 

Hi,

is this part of a website.

 

if so, you “might” be able to use flexible web.

 

thanks,

Jessica

 


On Aug 22, 2018, at 9:58 AM, Shannon <shannon@...> wrote:

Hello all.

I am using Jaws 2018 with the update from Yesterday.

This was happening before the latest update, but it is pretty annoying and slows things down.

There is a program we use for time tracking. In this program is a table of locations that employees clock in and out of. Each job can be GPS’ed to make sure the employee is where he said he was.

The indication that a location has or has not been assigned its GPS is indicated with a Check Box.

Here is the speech history when I arrow down the table of locations.

row 60 Read Only
Checked
row 61 Read Only
Checked
row 62 Read Only
Checked
row 63 Read Only
Unchecked

 

It would be nicer and a bit faster to cut a few words out of this feedback. In particular the phrase Read Only.

Is there a way to stop Jaws from saying this?

Thanks

Shannon


Re: JAWS and Excel - problem reading cells still exists

Mario
 

JR, just a suggestion, did you disable the back stage view setting? I
don't know if there are other settings to disable (like the preview pane
I've heard) that might help. what version of JAWS and Excel are you using?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jeremy [mailto:jeremy.richards7@...]
Sent: Wednesday, Aug 22, 2018 12:12 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Excel - problem reading cells still exists

Yes, good suggestion, but I did not have to expand any column in the past.

Thanks,

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Tessore
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 9:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Excel - problem reading cells still exists

I don’t know if this is the cause of your issue, but it may be worth
looking at.
When I was still able to use ZoomText I learned that unless I expanded
the width of a column I couldn’t see all the characters in the cell.
Expanding that column would reveal that text I KNEW was there.

Shalom,

Bill Tessore
billtessore@...
On Aug 21, 2018, at 8:35 PM, Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I hope others have different results, but I'm still experiencing the
problem of JAWS not being able to read text in cells within Excel when I
press F2.

I have discovered that if I type 8 characters or less, I can press F2
and arrow through the letters and make my edits. If the cell contains
a word or words with more than 8 characters, and if I press F2, JAWS
cannot read the text inside the cell. It appears it's the number of
characters in a cell that trips up JAWS.

Hmm, for whatever reason it seems as though VFO is struggling to fix
this problem since it has existed for quite a bit of time and
different versions of JAWS.

JR











.


Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

John Covici
 

Crashplan was always partially accessible, but I gave it up when they
abolished the feature to send you a disk in case of a disaster and you
could not really do a full system image on it and it became very slow
over time.

On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 09:11:34 -0400,
Steve Nutt wrote:

Is it accessible?

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: 22 August 2018 13:33
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

What about CrashPlan? It's 1.5 times the price of an annual one-terabyte Dropbox plan, but has no limits. Or none that I've been able to find.


On 8/20/2018 1:33 PM, Jeremy wrote:
That much data will likely cost you quite a bit of cash to upload to cloud storage such as OneDrive, Dropbox, Carbonite, etc., not to mention the amount of time it will take to upload the information. If you're not constantly modifying the data, then the previous cloud storage solutions will not be all that useful to you. I suggest purchasing external hard drives. I have always purchased Western Digital Black or Seagate drives and never had a problem. For data backup you will not want to skimp on quality. :) Take a look at the following drive:

Amazon.com: WD 4TB Elements Portable External Hard Drive - USB 3.0
$99
https://is.gd/HJwtP2

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 9:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Hey guys. So speaking of backup software, got something i wanna do.
I ahve a feeling it won't be easy.
I do a lot of work with audio and have several tb of audio, including audio projects that i can't lose. Looking for a good place to put them for safe keeping. It includes a lot of audio music beds and stuff, not for distrobution, just for safe keeping. Any ideas for a good solution for this. I've got about 8 TB worth of stuff. I know, not an easy task.

On 8/20/18, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard> wrote:
Steve provides the link to this backup software which, as the name
implies, backs up your files and sytem. If you click on the link you
will be able to read the following summary:

Backup Everything!
Discover the renowned backup, restore, and synchronisation software
SyncBackPro . Backup to disk, network, FTP, the Cloud, MTP, email,
Windows, Linux, macOS & Android!



Discounts & Bundles

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 8:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

can you tell me about this backup software, what does it do?

On 8/20/18, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:
Hi,

Yes, Syncback, or Syncback Pro from http://www.2brightsparks.com

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Ingram
Sent: 16 August 2018 03:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Hi list members, does anyone know of backup software that we can use
with jaws?










--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...


"Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

 

While this is not directly JAWS related, the issue of lack of a "coming back from being shut down when using Fast Startup" sound, as well as the lack of the good, old-fashioned shutdown sound, under Windows 10 comes up repeatedly on virtually every screen reader related group I'm participating in.  

I have just created feedback related to both, and here's the click-through link to the Windows 10 Feedback Hub for it (which, of course, only works for Windows 10 users):

               "Fast Startup" sound akin to Startup Sound, could we get one?

If this is an accessibility issue for you, please review this feedback and upvote it so that it will garner more attention.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Can I mask some extra chatter?

Shannon
 

I went and looked, I am using the intermediate setting.

What sort of information would I be looking to turn off that would result in hearing Read Only. What sort of information is this?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Can I mask some extra chatter?

 

Can you use your JAWS verbosity settings? I think this is in the setting center, but I am not sure.

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Jessica D <jldail13@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:08:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Can I mask some extra chatter?

 

Hi,

is this part of a website.

 

if so, you “might” be able to use flexible web.

 

thanks,

Jessica

 


On Aug 22, 2018, at 9:58 AM, Shannon <shannon@...> wrote:

Hello all.

I am using Jaws 2018 with the update from Yesterday.

This was happening before the latest update, but it is pretty annoying and slows things down.

There is a program we use for time tracking. In this program is a table of locations that employees clock in and out of. Each job can be GPS’ed to make sure the employee is where he said he was.

The indication that a location has or has not been assigned its GPS is indicated with a Check Box.

Here is the speech history when I arrow down the table of locations.

row 60 Read Only
Checked
row 61 Read Only
Checked
row 62 Read Only
Checked
row 63 Read Only
Unchecked

 

It would be nicer and a bit faster to cut a few words out of this feedback. In particular the phrase Read Only.

Is there a way to stop Jaws from saying this?

Thanks

Shannon


Re: Is it possible

Terrie Terlau
 

I currently use Office 2016 with Windows 2007 with no problems.

Terrie Terlau

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 10:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Is it possible

 

Yes, with 100% certainty, Office 2016 will work on Windows7.

 

JR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 7:46 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Is it possible

 

Hello, I need to use my old laptop until my new one gets fixed. Will Office 2016 work with Windows 7? Right now it has Office 2010.