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Re: speaking passwords

Cristóbal
 

People are under the misconception that if you can hear your password as you type it, you’ll somehow magically be a better typist or make less typos in this particular field. Yeah. No . . . You’ll at best only hear yourself make a typo or more likely second guess what you typed.

This really is much ado about nothing. We make typos. Sighted folks make typos. This won’t be some sort of magic bullet.

And again, folks should be using some sort of password manager anyway.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 1:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: speaking passwords

 

Unfortunately, I have had happen several times, when I am in the proper password field where the password is being spoken as I type and I have to tab and shift to correct that, probably a focus issue, but I don’t like it when it happens.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 5:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: speaking passwords

 

I was unaware other screen readers echoed the characters.  When typed as pass words.  The question I have for those who advocate the pass word key echo being an option is this:  There are times I find myself in a user name form field.  Rather than in the pass word form field.  In fact, I did so today.  When I heard the beginning of my pass word, I immediately realized I was in the wrong form field.  Wouldn't those advocating pass words being echoed have a similar problem.  Should their request not be honored by the web site on which they were.  Due to their not understanding they were using the incorrect form field?

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 4:34 PM

Subject: Re: speaking passwords

 

By the way, Brian, we’re not asking that the passwords be shown on the screen, only key echoed, the same way keys are echoed when we have JAWS set to echo characters.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: speaking passwords

 

On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 04:08 PM, Bill White wrote:

The security argument is spurious.

No, it's not.   And just for the record I have no direct or indirect ties to VFO.

If something like this exists it is 100% certain, at one point or another, to be accidentally turned on.  That alone is reason enough on security grounds to say, "No"
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: speaking passwords

Steve
 

Unfortunately, I have had happen several times, when I am in the proper password field where the password is being spoken as I type and I have to tab and shift to correct that, probably a focus issue, but I don’t like it when it happens.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 5:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: speaking passwords

 

I was unaware other screen readers echoed the characters.  When typed as pass words.  The question I have for those who advocate the pass word key echo being an option is this:  There are times I find myself in a user name form field.  Rather than in the pass word form field.  In fact, I did so today.  When I heard the beginning of my pass word, I immediately realized I was in the wrong form field.  Wouldn't those advocating pass words being echoed have a similar problem.  Should their request not be honored by the web site on which they were.  Due to their not understanding they were using the incorrect form field?

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 4:34 PM

Subject: Re: speaking passwords

 

By the way, Brian, we’re not asking that the passwords be shown on the screen, only key echoed, the same way keys are echoed when we have JAWS set to echo characters.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: speaking passwords

 

On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 04:08 PM, Bill White wrote:

The security argument is spurious.

No, it's not.   And just for the record I have no direct or indirect ties to VFO.

If something like this exists it is 100% certain, at one point or another, to be accidentally turned on.  That alone is reason enough on security grounds to say, "No"
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: my computer keeps changing volumes.

Larry Marcotte
 

I had a varying volume problem a few times ago. It was the loose connection to the wolver speaker.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2018 4:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: my computer keeps changing volumes.

 

Have you tried running a repair on jaws? If not and if that doesn’t help contact VFO. They might be able to help.

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Ed Legge <edward.legge@...>
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 10:41:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: my computer keeps changing volumes.

 

I am running the same software and have been haing the same problem for the
last couple of days.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 10:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: my computer keeps changing volumes.

is audio ducking disabled?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Jim Rawls [mailto:jazzpiano@...]
Sent: Saturday, Aug 18, 2018 10:40 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: my computer keeps changing volumes.

Hi all, is this a jaws issue? My volume on my computer will go up slightly
and then go down below what I have it set for. I am running windows ten and
jaws 2018. Jim













Re: Focus 14 - Grade 2 braille

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Jeremy, have you called Tech Support at VFO? That would be my suggestion.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 12:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Focus 14 - Grade 2 braille

Hi Les,

Yes, I can modify output in the manner you described when using JAWS, but
I'd like to modify the braille output of the internal menus of the Focus 14.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 3:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Focus 14 - Grade 2 braille

Hi Jeremy,

I think you would do this through the Jaws Setting screen on your PC, at
least that's how I do it. There are braille options, and you should be able
to change it there.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 4:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Focus 14 - Grade 2 braille

Hi all,

For those of you that own a Focus 14 5th Gen braille display, how can one
modify the output of the main settings menus so they show in grade 2
braille?

As is, when ai navigate through the settings such as clock, connections,
repeat, calendar, etc., they are listed in grade 1 braille. I'd like to
change the braille output to grade 2 or preferably UEB.

Thanks,

JR


Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

That much data will likely cost you quite a bit of cash to upload to cloud storage such as OneDrive, Dropbox, Carbonite, etc., not to mention the amount of time it will take to upload the information. If you're not constantly modifying the data, then the previous cloud storage solutions will not be all that useful to you. I suggest purchasing external hard drives. I have always purchased Western Digital Black or Seagate drives and never had a problem. For data backup you will not want to skimp on quality. :) Take a look at the following drive:

Amazon.com: WD 4TB Elements Portable External Hard Drive - USB 3.0
$99
https://is.gd/HJwtP2

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 9:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Hey guys. So speaking of backup software, got something i wanna do.
I ahve a feeling it won't be easy.
I do a lot of work with audio and have several tb of audio, including audio projects that i can't lose. Looking for a good place to put them for safe keeping. It includes a lot of audio music beds and stuff, not for distrobution, just for safe keeping. Any ideas for a good solution for this. I've got about 8 TB worth of stuff. I know, not an easy task.

On 8/20/18, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
Steve provides the link to this backup software which, as the name
implies, backs up your files and sytem. If you click on the link you
will be able to read the following summary:

Backup Everything!
Discover the renowned backup, restore, and synchronisation software
SyncBackPro . Backup to disk, network, FTP, the Cloud, MTP, email,
Windows, Linux, macOS & Android!



Discounts & Bundles

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 8:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

can you tell me about this backup software, what does it do?

On 8/20/18, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,

Yes, Syncback, or Syncback Pro from http://www.2brightsparks.com

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Ingram
Sent: 16 August 2018 03:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Hi list members, does anyone know of backup software that we can use
with jaws?














Re: Focus 14 - Grade 2 braille

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Hi Les,

Yes, I can modify output in the manner you described when using JAWS, but
I'd like to modify the braille output of the internal menus of the Focus 14.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 3:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Focus 14 - Grade 2 braille

Hi Jeremy,

I think you would do this through the Jaws Setting screen on your PC, at
least that's how I do it. There are braille options, and you should be able
to change it there.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 4:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Focus 14 - Grade 2 braille

Hi all,

For those of you that own a Focus 14 5th Gen braille display, how can one
modify the output of the main settings menus so they show in grade 2
braille?

As is, when ai navigate through the settings such as clock, connections,
repeat, calendar, etc., they are listed in grade 1 braille. I'd like to
change the braille output to grade 2 or preferably UEB.

Thanks,

JR


Re: JAWS Scripts for Audible & YouTube

 

Here again the link to Doug Lee’s Youtube scripts where it says:

 

Using the JAWS Scripts For Youtube Last Revised August, 2018

This Guide provides tips for using Youtube with JAWS For Windows and these scripts. When the scripts are installed and Youtube is open and focused in a supported browser, this document can be opened via a double press of

JAWSKey+F1 (or Insert+F1).

 

I hope you don’t mind me sending the link, the only other thing I could do if you want the same informative answer you get when you go there and read about is would be for me to copy and paste all the information into this email.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts for Audible & YouTube

 

What specifically do the scripts for YouTube do?

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2018 1:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts for Audible & Youtube

 

Hi David,

 

I also received the warning “Windows protected  your PC” or something like that. You can simply tab to “More Info”, activate that and then tab to “Install anyways”, after that the installation proceeds normally.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Ingram
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 5:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts for Audible & Youtube

 

I'd like to talk to doug lee concerning what I experienced when trying to download the jaws scripts for audible.  What happened when I downloaded the jaws scripts for audible was that I tried to install them and I got a message saying that the jaws scripts were blocked by windowsdefender.  I have jaws2018 on my system as a demo.  That is why I didn't install the jaws scripts for youtube.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mike B."
Sent: Aug 17, 2018 11:46 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: JAWS Scripts for Audible & Youtube

Hi All,

 

Thought some might be interested in this from this weeks edition of Top Tech Tidbits:

 

16. A. Doug Lee has JAWS scripts for YouTube:

 

 

16. B. And is developing scripts for the Win10 Audible app:

 


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

 

Quite easy if you are willing to spend a few hundred Dollars. You can simply go out and buy two 4Tb external hard drives or, if you spend more money, you can buy a NAS (Network Attached Storage) device. You also need to put hard drives into this, most NAS devices are 2 or 4 disk units (at least those for personal and small business use) and you can easily get 8 Tb or 10 Tb NaS drives, but they are not cheap, on something like this you would probably spend $1,500 or up.
If you want just external USB 3.0 drives you can look at something like this, it is $137.99 on Amazon Canada, probably costs $100 or $120 US in the States:

Seagate Backup Plus 4TB Portable External Hard Drive USB 3.0, Black (STDR4000100)
https://www.amazon.ca/Seagate-Backup-Portable-External-STDR4000100/dp/B00ZTRXFBA

You can also get larger backup hard drives from Seagate which include a USB hub (the large ones with 8Tb and 10Tb all seem to have the hub), here is the 8Tb model on Amazon Canada, it is $209.99 if you jump to the 10Tb model it goes up a lot to $389.99 so you can almost buy two 8Tb models for 1 10Tb model:
https://www.amazon.ca/Seagate-External-Desktop-Storage-STEL8000100/dp/B01HD6ZLQ6?th=1

All of this is also available from Best Buy, Staples and other stores and of course companies like Western Digital also make such drives. Western Digital, for example, makes the "MyBook" series of external drives which come in 3Tb, 4Tb, 6Tb, 8Tb and 10Tb. Here is the link on Western Digital's site, sorry, don't have time to look all fo this up on Amazon or Best Buy, it's an easy thing to do however if you know what to search for, writing this email with all the links took me 5 minutes:
https://www.wdc.com/products/external-storage/my-book-new.html


Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 9:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Hey guys. So speaking of backup software, got something i wanna do.
I ahve a feeling it won't be easy.
I do a lot of work with audio and have several tb of audio, including audio projects that i can't lose. Looking for a good place to put them for safe keeping. It includes a lot of audio music beds and stuff, not for distrobution, just for safe keeping. Any ideas for a good solution for this. I've got about 8 TB worth of stuff. I know, not an easy task.

On 8/20/18, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
Steve provides the link to this backup software which, as the name
implies, backs up your files and sytem. If you click on the link you
will be able to read the following summary:

Backup Everything!
Discover the renowned backup, restore, and synchronisation software
SyncBackPro . Backup to disk, network, FTP, the Cloud, MTP, email,
Windows, Linux, macOS & Android!



Discounts & Bundles

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 8:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

can you tell me about this backup software, what does it do?

On 8/20/18, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,

Yes, Syncback, or Syncback Pro from http://www.2brightsparks.com

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Ingram
Sent: 16 August 2018 03:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Hi list members, does anyone know of backup software that we can use
with jaws?














Re: JAWS Scripts for Audible & YouTube

Alan Robbins
 

What specifically do the scripts for YouTube do?

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2018 1:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts for Audible & Youtube

 

Hi David,

 

I also received the warning “Windows protected  your PC” or something like that. You can simply tab to “More Info”, activate that and then tab to “Install anyways”, after that the installation proceeds normally.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Ingram
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 5:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts for Audible & Youtube

 

I'd like to talk to doug lee concerning what I experienced when trying to download the jaws scripts for audible.  What happened when I downloaded the jaws scripts for audible was that I tried to install them and I got a message saying that the jaws scripts were blocked by windowsdefender.  I have jaws2018 on my system as a demo.  That is why I didn't install the jaws scripts for youtube.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mike B."
Sent: Aug 17, 2018 11:46 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: JAWS Scripts for Audible & Youtube

Hi All,

 

Thought some might be interested in this from this weeks edition of Top Tech Tidbits:

 

16. A. Doug Lee has JAWS scripts for YouTube:

 

 

16. B. And is developing scripts for the Win10 Audible app:

 


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
 

Hey guys. So speaking of backup software, got something i wanna do.
I ahve a feeling it won't be easy.
I do a lot of work with audio and have several tb of audio, including
audio projects that i can't lose. Looking for a good place to put
them for safe keeping. It includes a lot of audio music beds and
stuff, not for distrobution, just for safe keeping. Any ideas for a
good solution for this. I've got about 8 TB worth of stuff. I know,
not an easy task.

On 8/20/18, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
Steve provides the link to this backup software which, as the name implies,
backs up your files and sytem. If you click on the link you will be able to
read the following summary:

Backup Everything!
Discover the renowned backup, restore, and synchronisation software
SyncBackPro
. Backup to disk, network, FTP, the Cloud, MTP, email, Windows, Linux, macOS
& Android!



Discounts & Bundles

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 8:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

can you tell me about this backup software, what does it do?

On 8/20/18, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,

Yes, Syncback, or Syncback Pro from http://www.2brightsparks.com

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Ingram
Sent: 16 August 2018 03:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Hi list members, does anyone know of backup software that we can use with
jaws?














Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

 

Steve provides the link to this backup software which, as the name implies, backs up your files and sytem. If you click on the link you will be able to read the following summary:

Backup Everything!
Discover the renowned backup, restore, and synchronisation software
SyncBackPro
. Backup to disk, network, FTP, the Cloud, MTP, email, Windows, Linux, macOS & Android!



Discounts & Bundles

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 8:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

can you tell me about this backup software, what does it do?

On 8/20/18, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,

Yes, Syncback, or Syncback Pro from http://www.2brightsparks.com

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Ingram
Sent: 16 August 2018 03:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Hi list members, does anyone know of backup software that we can use with
jaws?









Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
 

can you tell me about this backup software, what does it do?

On 8/20/18, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:
Hi,

Yes, Syncback, or Syncback Pro from http://www.2brightsparks.com

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Ingram
Sent: 16 August 2018 03:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Hi list members, does anyone know of backup software that we can use with
jaws?









Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

Yes, Syncback, or Syncback Pro from http://www.2brightsparks.com

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Ingram
Sent: 16 August 2018 03:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Hi list members, does anyone know of backup software that we can use with jaws?


Re: Focus 14 - Grade 2 braille

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Hi Jeremy,

I think you would do this through the Jaws Setting screen on your PC, at
least that's how I do it. There are braille options, and you should be able
to change it there.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2018 4:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Focus 14 - Grade 2 braille

Hi all,

For those of you that own a Focus 14 5th Gen braille display, how can one
modify the output of the main settings menus so they show in grade 2
braille?

As is, when ai navigate through the settings such as clock, connections,
repeat, calendar, etc., they are listed in grade 1 braille. I'd like to
change the braille output to grade 2 or preferably UEB.

Thanks,

JR


Focus 14 - Grade 2 braille

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Hi all,

For those of you that own a Focus 14 5th Gen braille display, how can one
modify the output of the main settings menus so they show in grade 2
braille?

As is, when ai navigate through the settings such as clock, connections,
repeat, calendar, etc., they are listed in grade 1 braille. I'd like to
change the braille output to grade 2 or preferably UEB.

Thanks,

JR


Focus 14 - Refreshing the screen

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Hi all,

I'm having a bit of a problem on my Focus 14 5th Gen braille display. When
first turning on the device, and when I press the command to show the
current date (Menu key + dots 1-4-5) the manual states I should be able to
press any cursor routing button to return focus to the time on the main
screen. This command doesn't work reliably in that the date continues to
show as if it is stuck.

As a possible solution, does anyone know how to refresh the output on the
braille display? In JAWS one can press JAWSKey+Escape to refresh what is
written on the screen. I'm wondering if such a command works on a braille
display.

Thank you,

JR


Re: Focus 14 - Charging cable

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Hi all,

Regarding my request for help finding a shorter USB charging cable for the
Focus 14 5th Gen braille display, I don't want to be rude or anything, but
I'm looking for specific suggestions by someone whom is using the device. :)


JR


Re: speaking passwords

Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@...>
 

Hi Netbat,

Using JAWS, try activating the password edit field (any edit field) then press Insert+2 until you hear "None." You can now enter a password and not hear any feedback whatsoever.

You are activating the JAWS "Typing echo setting."

You will likely have to return the setting back to the way it was before you modified it. Simply press and hold the Jawskey then press the #2 repeatedly until you find the setting of your choice.

To make life easier on yourself, you should find a website for which you are asked to enter a password and practice entering the password while JAWS is conveying "star, star, star). At some point you will get use to it. There are thousands of JAWS users out there, and this is not a prevalent problem.

JR

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2018 4:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: speaking passwords

been there. did that.
i use window eyes for passwords then reload jaws.
a complete waste of time when they could give us the option to turn keypresses on or off in settings.
they could set it up so it needed a password to change this setting. then only the administrator would be able to change it.
this would meet the vfo criteria for security in the work place.




-----Original Message-----
From: Feliciano G
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2018 2:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: speaking passwords




For your security, speaking passwords is not available on some screen readers
like JAWS for Windows. A workaround that sometimes works is to type the
password on your choice of word processor and then copy and paste it onto the
password textfield. #Privacy #TypingEcho

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On Aug 17, 2018, at 11:50 PM, netbat66 <netbat66@gmail.com> wrote:


because sighted people can see the keyboard. we can not.
and with me i can not concentrate on the passwords i enter with it saying star
star star with every key press.

-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 10:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: speaking passwords

If sighted users can't see the password why should we?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 2:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: speaking passwords

Dam shame that FS doesn't think its users have the capacity to make a
decision to speak passwords or not.

On 8/17/2018 4:47 PM, netbat66 wrote:
rots of ruck.
i asked for this last year and vfo told me this was a security risk and
they would not allow this with any versions of jaws.
and why not?
i am not a business this is home with only me. no one else is going to
see the passwords. unless my dog can talk. grin

-----Original Message----- From: Don H
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: speaking passwords

With both Window Eyes and NVDA you have a option to speak passwords as
you type them in. I sure would like to see this feature in JAWS.


Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

Hi, I had posted a pe years back that eloquence and nvda and was a 64 bit version of windows, I lost my drive and don't feel like making it again, does anyone have a copy of it, it did not have all of those extra programs as they don't all come from trusted sources so I would suggest beeing careful as the pe posted here has all of these extra programs and any code can be run unsigned in the pe environment.

----- Original Message -----
From: "netbat66" <netbat66@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?


this p e version does have n v d a speech if you know how to create the boot
media and set it up.
i would try this on a flash drive. i do not know if any system changes you make
would be retained when you quit the p e program because it is loaded into
memory. so if you created the p e program on a cd no changes would be saved. i
do not know about useing a flash drive.
***
you have to have someone change the boot order in system bios so the computer
will boot from the u s b port first. then the c drive.
the document file included has the steps to get this version of p e working.

http://opopanax.net/download/

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What backup software can we use with jaws?

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 12:01 PM, John Covici wrote:
Newer versions of windows do have speech, you can start narrator Not under
Windows P E you can not, or not any version that I've ever laid hands on.

What I, and Gerald, are saying is that we are unaware of any "pre-full Windows
having booted" recovery media that support speech. I know of not a single one,
and I've been in this business a very long time.

If someone can actually tell me where one is, I'd love to look at it.

If Windows itself, as in from your hard drive, actually boots then you're not
doing a typical system image recovery, which is what's the crux of the matter.

--


Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the
right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: paprika recipe manager?

Jessica D <jldail13@...>
 

Hi,

The app is not accessible at all.

 

Can you, or someone else make jaws scripts?

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 2:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: paprika recipe manager?

 

Hi, Jessica. If the app is 100% accessible, what do you need JAWS to fix?

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 11:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: paprika recipe manager?

 

Hi

I’m a huge fan of Paprika recipe manager.

 

I’m using jaws 18, with windows 10.

 

This app is 100% enaccessible.

 

Can jaws fix this?

 

Thanks,

Jessica