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Re: grouped conversations in outlook 2010 with last version of jaws 2018

Van Lant, Robin
 

William,

 

I use conversations in both Outlook 2010 and in Outlook 2016 with JAWS 2018.  I  have rules set up to send all my JAWS User emails to a single folder with conversation threading so I can easily delete topics I don’t want to read.    Here are a couple ideas to be sure you are set up correctly. 

 

  • When you first set up Outcook, the default is to organize emails into Groups.  Be sure this is turned off on the View ribbon. 
  • On the view ribbon, check the box to show messages in Conversations.
  • On the File menu, go into Options, then Mail and be sure you check the box that says “do not automatically expand conversations when using a keyboard” or something like that.  There is no point in setting up conversation threading if you do not have this setting checked and arrowing up and down in your inbox will open threads automatically. 
  • When arrow through your folder and find a message discussion you went to read, press enter or right arrow to expand the conversation.  I believe the focus then goes to the first message in that conversation if you arrange your folder with the earliest messages toward the top.  Hit enter on the message you want to read.  If you want to reply to that message, just hit Control R as you normally would. 
  • One way you can tell if focus is on the thread header and not on a specific message is if you hear multiple sender names.  For example, I have my folder arranged so JAWS first reads the subject, then the sender name. If I hear a subject then two or more names of people, I can assume I am on the header and not on a specific message.
  • Left arrow will collapse a thread again.
  • If you press Delete on a thread header, you will be warned that you are deleting multiple messages. 

 

I hope this helps.  I do find that I have more issues with expanding an collapsing threads in Outlook 2016, but it seemed to work well for me in Outlook 2010.

 

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of William Windels
Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 12:58 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: FW: grouped conversations in outlook 2010 with last version of jaws 2018

 

Hello,

Below a mail of the vfo support team about grouped conversations in outlook 2010.

It should be a problem on the microsoft side they say but anyway: are there any workarounds, scripts, or other procedures so that jfw-users can work with grouped conversations in outlook 2010?

And if not, is another version of microsoft office a better choice?

 

Thx for any suggestions.

William Windels  

 

Van: VFO Technical Support [mailto:support@...]
Verzonden: dinsdag 7 augustus 2018 17:18
Aan: William Windels
Onderwerp: RE: grouped conversations in outlook 2010 with last version of jaws 2018

 

Hello William:

 

Thank you for contacting VFO ® Technical Support.

 

We do not provide technical support for Microsoft® products. Microsoft has a disability support service for their products.

JAWS 2018® and Office 2016® are compatible. Please see the below support resource page from Microsoft. Their contact us information is on this page.

 

https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/Accessibility/disability-answer-desk

 

 

If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, please don't hesitate to contact us.

 

If replying to this message, be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.

 

 

 

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From: William Windels <william.windels@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 9:06 AM
To: VFO Technical Support <support@...>
Subject: Re: grouped conversations in outlook 2010 with last version of jaws 2018

 

hello,

thx for the answer.

some questions about your mail:

1 I am living in Belgium so calling to a american number is not that cheap and easy.

Do you have a online contact system?

 

2: why should the problem change if vfo/freedom scintific has already talked about that to help 1000 or more people over the world?3: is there a other mail program that works better with jaws in global and more specific with grouped conversations?

 

kind regards, 

william windels

 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone


Op 7 aug. 2018 om 14:58 heeft VFO Technical Support <support@...> het volgende geschreven:

Hello William:

 

Thank you for contacting VFO ® Technical Support.

 

Since Outlook® is not behaving as expected in conversation view, it would be beneficial to consult the Microsoft® accessibility team for assistance. Please call 800-936-5900.

 

If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, please don't hesitate to contact us.

 

If replying to this message, be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.

 

 

 

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T 727-803-8000 F 727-803-8001

www.vfogroup.com

How am I doing?  Let

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From: William Windels <william.windels@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 3:40 AM
To: VFO Technical Support <support@...>
Subject: grouped conversations in outlook 2010 with last version of jaws 2018

 

Hello,

 

I am trying to group mailmessages in 1 specific mailfolder.

 

I tought I should see the following with jaws:

+ sign on the left of each row in the mail inbox when a tread is collapsed and a – sign when that tread is expende.

(this is the case when there are mailfolders with subfolders).

 

At the moment, I see a - sign next to a collapsed tread and nothing next to the messages in the tread.

 

I suppose I can reply/forward from a collapsed message or expanded message with the default outlook hotkeys ctrl+r, ctrl+shift+r or ctrl+f?

 

When going up/down with arrow keys in a mail-folder with collapsed and expanded treads:

I should use enter or arrow right /left to expand or colaps treads.

 

When entering on a collapsed tread, I expect that the most recent message is opened to read like with a message that is not in a collapsed list.

 

Any hints or setup assistance with mail-trads in outlook is very welcome.

 

Kind regards,

William Windels

     

 

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Re: YouTube Video navigation commands: access with JAWS

netbat66
 

all i do is turn off the virtual pc cursor with jaws key and z then tab once to get out of the slider to stop jaws from speaking the status then press the j,k and l keys.
i tried to put focus on the web page. i was able to tab between links and the youtube shortcut keys still functioned
one time when the shortcuts didn't work i just left mouse clicked on the screen. i don't know where the mouse pointer was. grin. and the shortcuts started working again. i guess focus was not even on the firefox browser screen.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 11:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: YouTube Video navigation commands: access with JAWS

How do you get JAWS focus on the player controls?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 11:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: YouTube Video navigation commands: access with JAWS

jaws z is the virtual pc cursor. not quick keys.
focus has to be on the player. if it is not the shortcut keys won't work.
i use them all the time with little problems.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 11:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: YouTube Video navigation commands: access with JAWS



The accessible YouTube player works by doing the following:



1. Press the JAWS key and the letter z. JAWS will respond “quick keys
off”. This is a toggle command, so pressing the same keys again will result in
“quick keys on”. You want the “off” mode.

2. The back, play/pause, and forward is done by pressing the j, k, or l
key. Sometimes you can hit the space bar and the video will pause, press again
to start. However, most of the time in my experience the jkl keys are what
works.

This will work any time you hear through JAWS that the web page is using the
YouTube Player.



Sincerely,

Tim Ford







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Youtube





Hi, Laura. All I need to do to get Youtube to play a video is press ENTER on
the link for the video. What browser are you using to try to play the video?





Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura
Richardson
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 5:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Youtube





Hello,



How do you get Youtube to play a video? …… Using Jaws 18 and Windows 10.



Laura


Re: 2 in 1 computers

Merv Keck <blind5sparrow@...>
 

I occasionally teach on several of those Dell models. The only issues I have is that they are a little slow which has nothing to do with JAWS. They have slower processors. I love the touch screen.
Merv

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2 in 1 computers

I bought an Asus Zenbook 15 inch laptop, no 2-in-1 or 3-in-1, just a good laptop although it does have a 4K touch screen. Apart from that it has a keyboard with NumPad and it came with 16Gb of RAM, a 512Gb SSD and an I7 CPU. Also 4 USB ports and 1 USB-C port and HDMI, no ethernet port, though, of course WiFi 802.11AC and bluetooth 4 or 4.1. This is, however, a premium laptop, not an under $1,000 model.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 7:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2 in 1 computers

Just purchased a HP Envy 13z and it works very well. Only issue is no separate number pad. Has the 360 hinge and AMD processor and graphics.

On 8/9/2018 8:50 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Anyone have experience with a Dell 2 in 1 laptop and Jaws 2018?
I'm looking into a new computer and what I want only comes in a 2 in 1, probably because of the 512 GB SSD drive and i7 chip, etc.

Thanks,
Rihcard
.



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Re: dectalk

Pastor Gil Pries <revgil@...>
 

You need either the DECtalk Express or the DECtalk USB.

I have the usb and  it works great.

 

Pastor Gil

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Isaac
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 12:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: dectalk

 

Hi, is there still a way to get dectalk working with jaws 2018?


Re: portible jaws version

ratshtron
 

not like it used to be, lol!


Legend has it that on Thursday 8/9/2018 02:24 PM, Isaac said:
----------------------------------------
Hi, can jaws still be made in a portible form with a authorization?
----------------------------------------


Re: Backup

Bob Hicks
 

Duck, duck, go!  Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time to point me in the right direction.

 

Have a great day, 73

 

Bob Hicks, KC8CR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 3:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Backup

 

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 02:28 PM, Bob Hicks wrote:

What is Windows PE?


https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+is+windows+pe&t=h_&ia=about
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    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Backup

netbat66
 

you don't have to go through all of this with the p e program at all to restore your c drive.
i don't know how accessible casper cloneing software is now. i still use version 8.
it will clone to a solid state drive too and will still boot. there is something about the solid state drive needing a different kind of boot record? casper handles this.
it does include imageing too. but with me the image backup part of the program will crash. it might just be on my computer.
you do have to have someone go into the system bios and change the boot order so it boots from your external drive first then the c drive.
i just leave it this way. you have to be in this mode if you have to install windows from scratch anyway.
but when you restore your c drive with casper you boot into windows, with speech from the backup drive. then use casper to restore the c drive from the backup.
if the drive won't restore, maybe because the file allocation table is bad you can also erase the partitions first before you restore and this will do a full restore from scratch.
or you could use casper to clone to a new bigger drive and use the new drive as your c drive. etc.
talking about a stack of backup drives? how many old backups do you really need?
i have one backup of the factory installation and 2 backups of the drive as it is today with all of my programs installed.
you could get some terabyte drives and partition them to several partitions. casper does not need the full size of the c drive to do a backup. it does not need to include the free space.
i am only useing 120 gb of disk space. so i could put 16 backups on a 2tb drive if i made 16 partitions. grin.
the first partition would be the one the computer would boot from.
then you could choose from the other 15 backups to restore the c drive if you really want to.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 11:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Backup



So you expect me to believe that all you did was create a rescue CD using Reflect, then popped it into your DVD drive, and boom, just like that without any sighted help or intervention of any kind, your computer was restored to normal from the backup image stored on your external hard drive? No way. There is always a user interface on a CD, unless it is a music CD, which will begin playing when you insert it into the DVD drive. But I have never heard of a rescue CD automatically restoring a backup image without some kind of user intervention.

Gerald



From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 1:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Backup

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 01:20 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:
the Macrium rescue disk boots into Linix.No, it most certainly does not, at least not in any default installation for Windows I've ever seen or recovery I've ever done. In fact, as part of setting up Macrium for the first time, you have to download Windows PE if you don't already have it in order to make the recovery disc.

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The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Backup

 

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 02:28 PM, Bob Hicks wrote:
What is Windows PE?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+is+windows+pe&t=h_&ia=about
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


portible jaws version

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

Hi, can jaws still be made in a portible form with a authorization?


dectalk

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

Hi, is there still a way to get dectalk working with jaws 2018?


Re: YouTube Video navigation commands: access with JAWS

Tim Ford
 

How do you get JAWS focus on the player controls?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 11:29 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: YouTube Video navigation commands: access with JAWS

jaws z is the virtual pc cursor. not quick keys.
focus has to be on the player. if it is not the shortcut keys won't work.
i use them all the time with little problems.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 11:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: YouTube Video navigation commands: access with JAWS



The accessible YouTube player works by doing the following:



1. Press the JAWS key and the letter z. JAWS will respond “quick keys
off”. This is a toggle command, so pressing the same keys again will result in
“quick keys on”. You want the “off” mode.

2. The back, play/pause, and forward is done by pressing the j, k, or l
key. Sometimes you can hit the space bar and the video will pause, press again
to start. However, most of the time in my experience the jkl keys are what
works.

This will work any time you hear through JAWS that the web page is using the
YouTube Player.



Sincerely,

Tim Ford







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Youtube





Hi, Laura. All I need to do to get Youtube to play a video is press ENTER on
the link for the video. What browser are you using to try to play the video?





Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura
Richardson
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 5:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Youtube





Hello,



How do you get Youtube to play a video? …… Using Jaws 18 and Windows 10.



Laura


Re: YouTube Video navigation commands: access with JAWS

netbat66
 

jaws z is the virtual pc cursor. not quick keys.
focus has to be on the player. if it is not the shortcut keys won't work.
i use them all the time with little problems.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Ford
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 11:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: YouTube Video navigation commands: access with JAWS



The accessible YouTube player works by doing the following:



1. Press the JAWS key and the letter z. JAWS will respond “quick keys off”. This is a toggle command, so pressing the same keys again will result in “quick keys on”. You want the “off” mode.

2. The back, play/pause, and forward is done by pressing the j, k, or l key. Sometimes you can hit the space bar and the video will pause, press again to start. However, most of the time in my experience the jkl keys are what works.

This will work any time you hear through JAWS that the web page is using the YouTube Player.



Sincerely,

Tim Ford







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Youtube





Hi, Laura. All I need to do to get Youtube to play a video is press ENTER on the link for the video. What browser are you using to try to play the video?





Bill White

billwhite92701@dslextreme.com







From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 5:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Youtube





Hello,



How do you get Youtube to play a video? …… Using Jaws 18 and Windows 10.



Laura


Re: Backup

Bob Hicks
 

I can’t stand it!  What is Windows PE?

 

Have a great day, 73

 

Bob Hicks, KC8CR

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 12:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Backup

 

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 12:26 PM, Jonas Voll wrote:

Can you not run your Macrium rescue disk In Windows PE?

I really don't understand this question.  I just stated that the Reflect Recovery software runs under Windows PE or, if you prefer, in Windows PE, which is a skeleton version of Windows that contains a few central features of the OS, not near to a full version of Windows.

The whole point of system image recovery is to restore a previously taken full image of a functional system to a drive that, for whatever reason except physical failure, has become corrupted.

You have to have some sort of OS running, and in the case of Macrium Reflect that OS is Windows PE.   For most Windows backup and recovery suites it's Windows PE, and generally run from either a bootable USB device or CD/DVD.  Windows PE is what's running the actual recovery software that takes the previously saved image and restores it to the drive.
 
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    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Backup

Gerald Levy
 

 
So you expect me to believe that all you did was create a rescue CD using Reflect, then popped it into your DVD drive, and boom, just like that without any sighted help or intervention of any kind, your computer was restored to normal from the backup image stored on your external hard drive?  No way. There is always a user interface on a CD, unless it is a music CD, which will begin playing when you insert it into the DVD drive.  But I have never heard of a rescue CD automatically restoring a backup image without some kind of user intervention. 
 
Gerald
 
 
 

Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: Backup
 
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 01:20 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:
the Macrium rescue disk boots into Linix.
No, it most certainly does not, at least not in any default installation for Windows I've ever seen or recovery I've ever done.   In fact, as part of setting up Macrium for the first time, you have to download Windows PE if you don't already have it in order to make the recovery disc.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


YouTube Video navigation commands: access with JAWS

Tim Ford
 

The accessible YouTube player works by doing the following:

 

1.        Press the JAWS key and the letter z.  JAWS will respond “quick keys off”.  This is a toggle command, so pressing the same keys again will result in “quick keys on”.  You want the “off” mode.

2.        The back, play/pause, and forward is done by pressing the j, k, or l key.  Sometimes you can hit the space bar and the video will pause, press again to start.  However, most of the time in my experience the jkl keys are what works.

This will work any time you hear through JAWS that the web page is using the YouTube Player.

 

Sincerely,

Tim Ford

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Youtube

 

Hi, Laura. All I need to do to get Youtube to play a video is press ENTER on the link for the video. What browser are you using to try to play the video?

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 5:26 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Youtube

 

Hello,

 

How do you get Youtube to play a video? …… Using Jaws 18 and Windows 10.

 

Laura

 


Re: Backup

 

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 01:08 PM, John Covici wrote:
What I have done is initiate the restore procedure from windows
That's the key phrase, and something that's seldom, very seldom, done if one is trying to do a system image restore, as those are typically done when Windows itself will not function due to serious corruption of some kind.

I can't imagine ever initiating a recovery from within Windows itself unless I had made a system image backup prior to doing planned experimenting with my machine and just wanted to wipe everything back to the state it was prior to the experimenting.  I'm sure one could initiate a system image restore from within Windows itself for other reasons, but that's not the case I've had in mind when discussing full system recoveries.   They're almost always done by booting with a USB or DVD and using an external backup drive as the image source, putting it all back on the internal drive on the computer in question.
 
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    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Backup

 

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 01:20 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:
the Macrium rescue disk boots into Linix.
No, it most certainly does not, at least not in any default installation for Windows I've ever seen or recovery I've ever done.   In fact, as part of setting up Macrium for the first time, you have to download Windows PE if you don't already have it in order to make the recovery disc.
 
--

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    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Backup

Jonas Voll
 

Linix has a portable OS with speech!!


Jonas Voll
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Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 12:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Backup


I don't think so. the Macrium rescue disk boots into Linix. Besides, I don't think there is any way to modify it once it is created by Macrium Reflect.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Jonas Voll
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 11:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Backup

Can you not run your Macrium rescue disk In Windows PE?

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
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F: 316-267-4312
www.envisionus.com

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Backup


Not true. You can't just shove the Macrium rescue disk into your DVD drive, and bang, zoom, it automatically restores your computer from the external hard drive without any intervention. You have to initiate the restoration procedure, which requires sight because there is no speech available when the rescue disk is loaded.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 10:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Backup

Actuallyk, if you have a recovery disk, you do the restore from windows and it boots from the recovery disk and does its thing without intervention.

On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 08:38:08 -0400,
Gerald Levy wrote:

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I also use Macrium Reflect to periodically create image backups of my
computer. But you would still need tech-savvy sighted help to restore
the image from the backup external hard drive because the rescue disk
is totally inaccessible with JAWS.


Gerald



From: John Doering
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 8:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Backup

I use Macrium Reflect to back up my home computer. I like that with
itοΏ½s free version you can do disc cloning. It is also pretty
accessible using JAWS. You do need to use the JAWS cursor to access
some functions, but it it works very well.



HTH,







John Doering

Administrative Pricing Asst


p. 4147783040 t. 800-642-8778



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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Backup



Excellent question. VSS is Microsoft's own volume-shadowing driver and
technology. Here's the Terabyte Unlimited knowledgebase article about
point-in-time technology and strategies.
https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=352

On 8/8/2018 10:31 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Richard,

I have pretty much given up on making assertions about
accessibility since things change such that something that had been
entirely accessible might become less so to just plain "not." That being
said, if you're trying to
make full system image backups and/or separate user data backups for a
home system I'd definitely give EaseUS To Do Backup Free a whirl just to
see whether it's accessible.

It's what I use not because it's the best (as in most
sophisticated and allows the most configuration) backup software out there
but because of the ease of use of its interface. My partner is, how shall
I put it, not
particularly technically inclined and he can run a routine backup with it
because once you set it up it's just a "click and run" affair.

In doing a quick whirl around the main program page with NVDA
just now I can easily land on the Recovery, Backup, and Advanced buttons.
I cannot seem to get over to the main column of setup buttons on the left
side, but
I'm not great with any of the newer navigation methods like Object
Navigation, so these may be accessible via a method I don't normally use
or could be entirely inaccessible. In the event that they are entirely
inaccessible, if you
have assistance to set up your backup schemes you can definitely run them
without any assistance, as that pane allows accessibility to all buttons.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in
the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting
moment.

~ Dorothy Nevill





--
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How do
you spend it?

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Re: Backup

Gerald Levy
 

I don't think so. the Macrium rescue disk boots into Linix. Besides, I don't think there is any way to modify it once it is created by Macrium Reflect.

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonas Voll
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 11:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Backup

Can you not run your Macrium rescue disk In Windows PE?

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 9:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Backup


Not true. You can't just shove the Macrium rescue disk into your DVD drive, and bang, zoom, it automatically restores your computer from the external hard drive without any intervention. You have to initiate the restoration procedure, which requires sight because there is no speech available when the rescue disk is loaded.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 10:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Backup

Actuallyk, if you have a recovery disk, you do the restore from windows and it boots from the recovery disk and does its thing without intervention.

On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 08:38:08 -0400,
Gerald Levy wrote:

[1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>]
[2 <text/html; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>]

I also use Macrium Reflect to periodically create image backups of my
computer. But you would still need tech-savvy sighted help to restore
the image from the backup external hard drive because the rescue disk
is totally inaccessible with JAWS.


Gerald



From: John Doering
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 8:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Backup

I use Macrium Reflect to back up my home computer. I like that with itοΏ½s
free version you can do disc cloning. It is also pretty accessible using
JAWS. You do need to use the JAWS cursor to access some functions, but it
it works very
well.



HTH,







John Doering

Administrative Pricing Asst


p. 4147783040 t. 800-642-8778



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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Backup



Excellent question. VSS is Microsoft's own volume-shadowing driver and
technology. Here's the Terabyte Unlimited knowledgebase article about
point-in-time technology and strategies.
https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=352

On 8/8/2018 10:31 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Richard,

I have pretty much given up on making assertions about
accessibility since things change such that something that had been
entirely accessible might become less so to just plain "not." That being
said, if you're trying to
make full system image backups and/or separate user data backups for a
home system I'd definitely give EaseUS To Do Backup Free a whirl just to
see whether it's accessible.

It's what I use not because it's the best (as in most
sophisticated and allows the most configuration) backup software out there
but because of the ease of use of its interface. My partner is, how shall
I put it, not
particularly technically inclined and he can run a routine backup with it
because once you set it up it's just a "click and run" affair.

In doing a quick whirl around the main program page with NVDA
just now I can easily land on the Recovery, Backup, and Advanced buttons.
I cannot seem to get over to the main column of setup buttons on the left
side, but
I'm not great with any of the newer navigation methods like Object
Navigation, so these may be accessible via a method I don't normally use
or could be entirely inaccessible. In the event that they are entirely
inaccessible, if you
have assistance to set up your backup schemes you can definitely run them
without any assistance, as that pane allows accessibility to all buttons.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in
the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting
moment.

~ Dorothy Nevill





--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com







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Re: Backup

John Covici
 

What I have done is initiate the restore procedure from windows and if
its the system partition it will say it haas to do the restore with
the cd, and at that point instead of hitting ok, you boot with the cd
and it just works -- I have definitely done this.

On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 10:25:07 -0400,
Gerald Levy wrote:


Not true. You can't just shove the Macrium rescue disk into your
DVD drive, and bang, zoom, it automatically restores your
computer from the external hard drive without any intervention.
You have to initiate the restoration procedure, which requires
sight because there is no speech available when the rescue disk
is loaded.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: John Covici
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 10:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Backup

Actuallyk, if you have a recovery disk, you do the restore from
windows and it boots from the recovery disk and does its thing without
intervention.

On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 08:38:08 -0400,
Gerald Levy wrote:

[1 <text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>]
[2 <text/html; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)>]

I also use Macrium Reflect to periodically create image backups
of my computer. But you would still need tech-savvy sighted
help to restore the image from the backup external hard drive
because the rescue disk is totally inaccessible
with JAWS.


Gerald



From: John Doering
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 8:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Backup

I use Macrium Reflect to back up my home computer. I like that
with itοΏ½s free version you can do disc cloning. It is also
pretty accessible using JAWS. You do need to use the JAWS
cursor to access some functions, but it it works very
well.



HTH,







John Doering

Administrative Pricing Asst


p. 4147783040 t. 800-642-8778



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document attached hereto is intended only for the named
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 11:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Backup



Excellent question. VSS is Microsoft's own volume-shadowing
driver and technology. Here's the Terabyte Unlimited
knowledgebase article about point-in-time technology and
strategies. https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=352

On 8/8/2018 10:31 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Richard,

I have pretty much given up on making assertions
about accessibility since things change such that something
that had been entirely accessible might become less so to just
plain "not." That being said, if you're trying to
make full system image backups and/or separate user data
backups for a home system I'd definitely give EaseUS To Do
Backup Free a whirl just to see whether it's accessible.

It's what I use not because it's the best (as in
most sophisticated and allows the most configuration) backup
software out there but because of the ease of use of its
interface. My partner is, how shall I put it, not
particularly technically inclined and he can run a routine
backup with it because once you set it up it's just a "click
and run" affair.

In doing a quick whirl around the main program page
with NVDA just now I can easily land on the Recovery, Backup,
and Advanced buttons. I cannot seem to get over to the main
column of setup buttons on the left side, but
I'm not great with any of the newer navigation methods like
Object Navigation, so these may be accessible via a method I
don't normally use or could be entirely inaccessible. In the
event that they are entirely inaccessible, if you
have assistance to set up your backup schemes you can
definitely run them without any assistance, as that pane allows
accessibility to all buttons.

--
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right
thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at
the tempting moment.

~ Dorothy Nevill





--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com





--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com