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Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Hi  Aleeha,

 

I have seen posts on Viphone where people complained that theire is no startup sound on the iPhone, don’t think I ever seen somebody wanting a shutdown sound, however. Of course it’s easy on the iPhone to check and in any ways, I never have seen any of my iPhones not shut down after I double tapped the “Power off” button. To check you can just wait 6 or 8 seconds and then flick the mute switch, if the iPhone was not shutdown you would feel the little vibration. In any case, maybe with the iPhone people don’t complain because very few people shut it down for any extended period of time whereas desktops and PC’s are still shutdown by many people on a regular bases instead of simply putting them to sleep. nobody

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

 

What about the fact that the iPhone and Mac don’t and have never had, shut down sounds? Why are we not bashing Apple as well? The point that has been made that Microsoft should focus on more important accessibility features rather than focusing on the shut down sound. The shut down sound is not an accessibility feature. And you’re right: they’re spending more time on accessibility features than worrying about a petty little concern that doesn’t even conclusively indicate anything. The computer is not shut down when you hear the sound. It is only shut down when the fans and hard drive stop.

Aleeha

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

 

Someone said if you uncheck fast startup in the power settings the

startup and shutdown sound options return.  On my system they do not.

I wonder how many people that have fast startup enabled know that this

does not do the same as a restart?  If you have fast startup enabled you

should on a regular basis do a system restart.  I have fast startup

disabled as I think a full shutdown gives you better overall

performance.  Can't think that a few more seconds for bootup is a

terrible thing.

 

 

 

 


Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

What exactly makes this a "stupid" solution?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 9:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

This is the stupidest solution I've ever encountered,but apparently it's the only one.
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/94891-play-sound-shutdown-windows-10-a.html


On 7/30/2018 4:56 PM, Teresa wrote:
good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts down? Thanks to all in advance.



Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

What exactly do you mean by "normal stuff"?
I also have pointed out that in some ways Windows 10 is a step back for accessibility especially with legacy applications where in Windows 7 the Jaws cursor could often be used to great effect. However, let's face it, accessibility has never received as much attention by these large organisations (Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook, Amazon etc.) as it is getting now and over the last 6 or 8 years. Apple started the ball rolling with Voiceover and while Microsoft the corporation is neither blind nor sighted since it doesn't have eyes, there are plenty of blind employees who are part of Microsoft and who probably do their best to push accessibility forward. Why a few people get their panties in such a wad over this shutdown sound is a mystery to me especially since instructions as to how to get it back have been posted and Brian has even posted his registry file which does it all for you. The result may not always be reliable for everybody, but those who want it should at least try it. Furthermore, as far as knowing whether a computer has shut down is not necessarily determined by its shutdown sound. I had situations where in Windows 7 the shutdown sound played and then a sighted employee told me my computer screen displayed some message which required action and the computer had not shut down. As Brian said, if you are that concerned and require the feedback and if you don't have a DVD drive, then plug in a USB stick and see if the computer plays any sounds.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of cecropia64
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 8:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Problem is that Microsoft isn't blind.  They really have no idea how hard it can be for us.  If they did I think they'd put more effort into it.  I know they have come a long way but it would be nice if they made the normal stuff more useable as well, not just their own stuff.


On 7/31/2018 11:18 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

MS doesn't give a rat's ass what the public thinks.  If it did, it
would have replaced the much-despised ribbon menu structure with the
more convenient and less cumbersome classic menu structure that most
of its customers, sighted and blind alike,  prefer. On the contrary,
MS seems to go out of its way to frustrate and tick off its customers
just to prove that they can do anything they damn well please and get
away with it.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Aleeha Dudley
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Hi all,
I am a very infrequent poster on this list, but I needed to contribute
on this one.
The lack of a shutdown sound does NOT indicate a lack of accessibility
You could always use a light detector app to determine if the screen
is off, or place your ear close to the computer to hear the different
sounds stop. Systems change. That’s a fact. The Mac, for example, does
not make the startup sound on the new machines. It’s sad, but it’s
true. In an age where people want faster operating systems and less
noise from machines, Microsoft has to go with what the public wants,
not a niche market. If you really think that Microsoft or any other
company is stepping back in terms of accessibility, I’d strongly
encourage you to do a bit of research into current accessibility
developments first.
Aleeha
On Jul 31, 2018, at 9:42 AM, David Ingram <dingram269@earthlink.net>
wrote:

hi list members, what version of jaws are being used currently? If
the answers is jaws 2018 or jaws 17 then you should hear all system
sounds. I'currently using jaws version 16.  This means that if you're
using jaws 17 or 2018 with windows 10 version 1803 you should hear
all system soundsI'm going to check to see whether windows 10 version
1803 does the same with firefox?


-----Original Message-----
From: cecropia64 <cecropia64@att.net>
Sent: Jul 31, 2018 9:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Maybe.  But that's what these lists are for.  To ask questions and
get answers if there are any to be had.


On 7/31/2018 10:17 AM, Alan Robbins via Groups.Io wrote:
I wish I had a dollar for every time this thread starts up on this
list as well as other lists. It seems to me there must be a reason
Microsoft stopped having a shut down sound. Has anyone ever taken
the time to research this or ask Microsoft? It would seem to me to
be energy better spend than repeatedly asking this question on
email lists.

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 9:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

I disagree with that statement about Microsoft not caring about
accessibility. If this were so then why the major and continueing
improvements of Narrator and if this statement was true then Apple
also does not care about accessibility (which of course is not
true) because the iPhone makes neither a startup sound nor a
shutdown sound.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald
Levy
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 3:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10


Taking away the shutdown sound in Windows 10 proves once again that
MS really does not careabout accessibility, contrary to what some
list members believe to the contrary. What possible advantage is
there to having no audible means of confirming that your computer
has completely shut down? On some laptops, the cooling fan is so
weak that it is difficult to impossible to tell whether it is
running just by feeling or placing your ear next to the case, so
this may not be a reliable substitute for the shutdown sound.
Maybe someone who is smarter than me can explain how eliminating
the shutdown sound is an "improvement".

Gerald



Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Mario
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 8:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

in the meantime, it would be appreciated, I think by most blind
and/or sighted users, to send feedback to Microsoft pleeding that
the familiar Windows 7 shutdown sound be reenabled and that any wav
file can be assigned as it was possible with earlier versions of
Windows, i.e. via the sounds applett of the control panel.
there might be a chance MS would consider it if there were
compelling reasons such as for blind users who choose to completely
shutdown their system and are using a laptop (or desktop) that does
not have any means of testing to see if the system is truely
shutdown. the more the reasons that are reasonable, the better the
chance MS might do it. no?




-------- Original Message --------
From: cecropia64 [mailto:cecropia64@att.net]
Sent: Monday, Jul 30, 2018 7:35 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: shut down sound for windows 10

yup, me too.  I'm gonna use Windows 7 until Microsoft says "no more".
But by then I hope to have learned enough about Windows 10 to at
least use it without too much of an issue.  We shall see about that.


On 7/30/2018 6:24 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

So how can you tell for sure that your computer has shut down
completely if there is no sound like in Windows 7 and earlier? This
is yet another reason why I'm in no hurry to upgrade to Windows 10.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

With Windows 10, there is no way to assign a shutdown sound.

Pastor Gil

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teresa
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 PM
To: JFW <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: shut down sound for windows 10

good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts
down?
Thanks to all in advance.














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Re: problem solved about not hearing system sounds after updating to latest version of windows10!

David Ingram
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Matzura <number6@noisynotes.com>
Sent: Aug 1, 2018 8:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: problem solved about not hearing system sounds after updating to latest version of windows10!

So what was the problem and how was it fixed?


On 8/1/2018 3:33 AM, David Ingram wrote:
Hi list members, it took a long time to fix concerning not hearing system sounds but everything is working as it should with windows 10 and system sounds. Jaws 16 works great with this new windows 10 update.


Hi list members, the problem was that after the update to the latest version of windows 10 that my jaws version 16 was working but I had no system sounds. After the repair of jaws 16 was done, I had other problems. What I did was to uninstall jaws 16 then reinstall jaws16. Now I have my jaws 16 and system sounds like I had before the windows 10 update.


Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Alan Robbins <alan1057@...>
 

Don,

 

I think this is the wrong JAWS list. I believe the one you are referring to is the Jaws-users-list I think Brian unsubscribed over there.

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

 

Brian, David requested that you top post.  Get with the program.

 

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 12:54 PM

Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

 

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 02:19 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Attitudes matter because how users and developers understand accessibility and needs of customers will shape how accessible the end product will be. Technologies matter because without means of delivering on that attitudes, attempts at convincing the public and developers won’t be that strong. Thus, to me, lack of shutdown sounds is a small thing compared to attitudes of some developers who think it is okay to just design beautiful interfaces without giving thoughts to accessibility, and screen reader vendors are not exempt from this.

Amen!!   There really are important battles to be fought and won.  The presence or absence of a shutdown sound is definitely not one of them.  It's very nice to have, and I've made a major effort to find a way to provide one, but in the end it is a triviality for the very reason you state.  People were used to it, but that doesn't make it essential.  There are plenty of ways, most of which have now been mentioned repeatedly, to double check that a computer is powered down sans any system sound to indicate it's at least trying to get there.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Severe JAWS stuttering

Mario
 

I have a similar issue with JAWS severely stuttering, and the computer
is a custom built machine that my dad had built for me to use when I
would go into his office. it does have a second (PCI) sound card, and in
tinkering to figure out what I can do to stop the stuttering, I updated
the drivers but no improvement occurred. then I tried turning off the
noise cancellation and audio enhancements of the sound card resulting
with little improvement but was still too much stuttering to deal with.
then I discovered that when I unloaded JAWS and loaded NVDA, the
stuttering dramatically decreased, and for some reason, had to uninstall
JAWS, and noticed that the stuttering was completely gone. NVDA was
talking flawlessly. but once I installed JAWS again, the stuttering came
back as if it wasn't tinkered with at all.

so, I concluded there was nothing I could do other to use NVDA with
minimal stuttering because I prefer to use JAWS some day.

from your reply, the problem is related to the processor? the computer
is running w7, J14 or 16 (forgot which one), 4 GB RAM, 1.6 GHZ Intel
(something). what could I try to make the stuttering go away while JAWS
is being used, any ideas?

-------- Original Message --------
From: netbat66 [mailto:netbat66@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, Jul 31, 2018 8:25 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Severe JAWS stuttering

the problem is the voice synthisizer voices share the same on board
computer c p u as all the other running programs. especially programs
like  that are continuely accessing the drive, like antivirus and
malware bytes,  listening to music or you tube etc.
the c p u will pause the  sound card  voice a few mili seconds so it can
do something else. then turn the sound card back on and continue from
where it left off.
you won't notice this if your c p u is fast enough.
you might be able to stop the stuttering if you use a dedicated sound
card, not a u s b headphone. which still uses the c p u to process the
sound.
they have there own sound processor to take the processing load off the
computer c p u so it can do other chores

-----Original Message----- From: Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 3:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io ; 'JAWS Private Beta Group'
Subject: Re: Severe JAWS stuttering



I’m having the same issues on a Dell laptop with Windows 10 and Jaws 18.
Please let me know if you find out what the issue is …… Windows 10 or Jaws.



Laura







From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 12:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; JAWS Private Beta Group
<JAWSBETA@LISTS.FREEDOMSCIENTIFIC.COM>
Subject: Severe JAWS stuttering





Sorry for the cross post. I’ve not seen any one on either list state
this as an issue, however, there are two of us here that are having the
same problem. The JAWS stutter gets so bad that you can’t complete any
task. The speech will get so bad that you think that JAWS has just
crashed. It also obviously affects scanning messages, documents and even
just reading items off of your desktop.

Both of us also have Lenovo laptops and I’m not ruling that out either.
The interesting thing is that I disconnected my Braille display and it
has gotten much better, however, that’s not the kind of fix I want. I’m
really interested in any feedback I can get to resolve this. We are moth
using the latest JaWS2018, but I’ve seen this happening for a while and
just thought it was my Laptop. We are using Windows10 and we both tried
different versions of JAWS going back to JAWS16 and till have this problem.










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Re: shut down sound for windows 10

 

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 10:15 PM, Don Walls wrote:
Brian, David requested that you top post.  Get with the program.
David does not run this group nor dictate to me my posting style.  I suggest you both learn to deal or learn to mute.  My posting record stands very well on its own and I do not have to comport to the style anyone else prefers.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: problem solved about not hearing system sounds after updating to latest version of windows10!

Steve Matzura
 

So what was the problem and how was it fixed?

On 8/1/2018 3:33 AM, David Ingram wrote:
Hi list members, it took a long time to fix concerning not hearing system sounds but everything is working as it should with windows 10 and system sounds. Jaws 16 works great with this new windows 10 update.


Re: Skype for business weird issue

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Hi Mike,

That option is checked for me as well.

Thanks for the link to the webinar.

If you find out anything useful, could you please pass it along?

Thanks,
Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Mike Cormier [michel.cormier@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 7:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Skype for business weird issue

Hi Pam,

The option to read text automatically is in the JAWS quick settings. When you are in SFB, do an insert+v. the first option is read text automatically and it should be checked. However, even though I have it checked or not, it does not make a difference.

For the demo of how Skype should read incoming text, this is the skype webinar at the Freedom Scientific website. It is among all the webinars that they have. The link follows but do note that this is not Skype for business but just the regular Skype.

https://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/WebinarDetail/F0018

It is weird that reading text automatically does not work in SFB but as demonstrated with Skype regular in the webinar, all works perfectly.

I don't know if this is a Skype issue or a JAWS issue. One of our technicians will be speaking with a tech from Microsoft about this issue. Hopefully something will come out of this.


Mike






-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 5:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Skype for business weird issue

Hi Mike,

My company also changed from LYNC to SFB, and I am seeing the same behavior you are seeing.

Where do you go to check "Read Text Automatically"?

Can you point me to the FS webinar you mention?

I do use the script for SFB from dlee.org, but I still need to use the command "[h" to read the message and then use "[I" to get back to the input window.

Thanks,
Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Mike Cormier [michel.cormier@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Skype for business weird issue

Good morning,

In my organization, we used to have MS lync. We are moving over to Skype for Business 2016 which is part of the Office suite 2016.

Prior to Skype for business, my MS Lync did not automatically read text messages as they were sent to me. With Skype for business now, it is doing the same. I thought this was normal until I listen to a FS webinar where JAWS was reading the texts as they appeared on the screen. It was giving all kinds of feedback which is very nice.

I verified my sfb settings in JAWS and read text automatically is checked. I even unchecked it and rechecked it and still no change. I hear a sound to alert me when a Skype message arrives or when someone replies to me but JAWS does not read the message unless I shift tab to the message area from the input area to read it manually.

Any help that anyone would have to fix this would be appreciated as I could find nothing on line or in the FS technical support.

Thanks in advance.


Mike


Re: Skype for business weird issue

Mike Cormier <michel.cormier@...>
 

Hi Pam,

The option to read text automatically is in the JAWS quick settings. When you are in SFB, do an insert+v. the first option is read text automatically and it should be checked. However, even though I have it checked or not, it does not make a difference.

For the demo of how Skype should read incoming text, this is the skype webinar at the Freedom Scientific website. It is among all the webinars that they have. The link follows but do note that this is not Skype for business but just the regular Skype.

https://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/WebinarDetail/F0018

It is weird that reading text automatically does not work in SFB but as demonstrated with Skype regular in the webinar, all works perfectly.

I don't know if this is a Skype issue or a JAWS issue. One of our technicians will be speaking with a tech from Microsoft about this issue. Hopefully something will come out of this.


Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 5:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Skype for business weird issue

Hi Mike,

My company also changed from LYNC to SFB, and I am seeing the same behavior you are seeing.

Where do you go to check "Read Text Automatically"?

Can you point me to the FS webinar you mention?

I do use the script for SFB from dlee.org, but I still need to use the command "[h" to read the message and then use "[I" to get back to the input window.

Thanks,
Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Mike Cormier [michel.cormier@hrsdc-rhdcc.gc.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Skype for business weird issue

Good morning,

In my organization, we used to have MS lync. We are moving over to Skype for Business 2016 which is part of the Office suite 2016.

Prior to Skype for business, my MS Lync did not automatically read text messages as they were sent to me. With Skype for business now, it is doing the same. I thought this was normal until I listen to a FS webinar where JAWS was reading the texts as they appeared on the screen. It was giving all kinds of feedback which is very nice.

I verified my sfb settings in JAWS and read text automatically is checked. I even unchecked it and rechecked it and still no change. I hear a sound to alert me when a Skype message arrives or when someone replies to me but JAWS does not read the message unless I shift tab to the message area from the input area to read it manually.

Any help that anyone would have to fix this would be appreciated as I could find nothing on line or in the FS technical support.

Thanks in advance.


Mike


Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

I too have held the power button down on my computer. However, it messes with the hard drive. I wouldn’t do that if I were you. I will get cited assistance to see if your computer has shut down. Better to be safe than sorry


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 12:22:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10
 
On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 12:16 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:
But without a shutdown sound, you can't confirm that the shutdown procedure has even been initiated in the first place.
If you choose the power menu, shutdown option, you can be assured that the shutdown procedure has been initiated.  It may hang at times, as you've already indicated, but it's initiated.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Java update question

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Hello,

     After you’ve found the update, I think you tab to “left single-click” and press enter on it. At least, that’s how I’ve done this before.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 2:15:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Java update question
 
I too get a Java update notification.  But, I have been reluctant to do it
because I do not know how it will handle the Java Access Bridge.  Does
anyone know if the update will properly update the JAB?  I use Windows 7 Pro
64 bit under JAWS 15.

Thanks,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Debby Hill
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 3:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Java update question

Hi David,

When Java is ready to update I find it in the "System Tray." Press JAWS-key
+ F11 and arrow up and down. Hopefully you will find it there.

Debby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Pearson
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 4:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Java update question

Greetings all:

Jaws keeps telling me that a new version of "Java" is ready to be installed,

and to do this "click here" which I  obviously can't see.  When this
notification is announced again what is the best method to locate the "here"

button to commence the download/install?

Sincerely yours,



David S. Pearson













Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Just bought my suggestion would help.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Don H <lmddh50@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 6:43:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10
 
It is possible to creat a batch file to shutdown Windows 10 as well as a
way to play a sound.  However if something is preventing Windows from
shutting down I am not sure the batch file would be any better.

On 7/31/2018 5:40 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
> Um, can't see light.  Don't hear fan on laptop.
>
>
> Maria Campbell
> lucky1inct@...
>
> "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
> --St. Francis
>
> On 7/31/2018 6:28 PM, Ashleigh Piccinino wrote:
>>  Normally, you should be able to hear the motor in your computer stop
>> as it shuts down. Can you do this? If not, you should be able to see
>> the light on your monitor go out.
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fo0ukef&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C88511076a1da453f425808d5f73f705d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636686774188739129&amp;sdata=JwYU0%2FjlMfTYzpuCxyiKoTdPa2wdjlmBZ0uziHin8tY%3D&amp;reserved=0>
>
>





Re: all Skypes work together??

john clayton
 

they probably should,yes.

On 1 August 2018 at 15:07, Morey Worthington <worthington@...> wrote:
Hi All.

If I am still using Skuype 7.4, and one of you is using Skype UAP, and one of you is using Skype 8.2 will they still be friendly with each other? Meaning, can we still connect with each other using the different versions??

Just a thought

Morey







--
***
“The most important thing in life is not the triumph but the struggle. The essential thing is not to have conquered but to have fought well.”


all Skypes work together??

Morey Worthington
 

Hi All.

If I am still using Skuype 7.4, and one of you is using Skype UAP, and one of you is using Skype 8.2 will they still be friendly with each other? Meaning, can we still connect with each other using the different versions??

Just a thought

Morey


If you don't hear system sounds after updating to 1803 update.

David Ingram
 

Hi list members, first make sure thatyou check to make sure that you have a previous version of jaws on your system. If a repair of jaws has been done but then you have some craziness, try the following uninstall the previous version then reinstall the previous version of jaws making sure that you have the last working version of jaws on your system. Also make sure that if you are using internet explorer or maybe even in edge that you make sure that play system sounds is enabled as well. Hope that this helps


problem solved about not hearing system sounds after updating to latest version of windows10!

David Ingram
 

Hi list members, it took a long time to fix concerning not hearing system sounds but everything is working as it should with windows 10 and system sounds. Jaws 16 works great with this new windows 10 update.


Re: Thunderbird tutorial?

Tom <tomcat509@...>
 

Hi Ann,

There is aWE tutorial for Thunderbird which probably would be useful to you.
Following is a link for the GW Micro material which has been moved to
Youtube.
HTH
Tom

https://www.youtube.com/user/gwmicro

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2018 2:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Thunderbird tutorial?

Is there a Thunderbird tutorial out there somewhere? I would sure
appreciate hearing about it if there is!

thx,

ann


Thunderbird tutorial?

Ann Byrne
 

Is there a Thunderbird tutorial out there somewhere? I would sure appreciate hearing about it if there is!

thx,

ann


List Rules - Wed, 8/1/18 #cal-notice

main@jfw.groups.io Calendar <noreply@...>
 

List Rules

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**List Policies**

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