I’m having the same issues on a Dell laptop with Windows 10 and Jaws 18.  Please let me know if you find out what the issue is …… Windows 10 or Jaws.

Laura

Sorry for the cross post. I’ve not seen any one on either list state this as an issue, however, there are two of us here that are having the same problem. The JAWS stutter gets so bad that you can’t complete any task. The speech will get so bad that you think that JAWS has just crashed. It also obviously affects scanning messages, documents and even just reading items off of your desktop.

Both of us also have Lenovo laptops and I’m not ruling that out either. The interesting thing is that I disconnected my Braille display and it has gotten much better, however, that’s not the kind of fix I want. I’m really interested in any feedback I can get to resolve this. We are moth using the latest JaWS2018, but I’ve seen this happening for a while and just thought it was my Laptop. We are using Windows10 and we both tried different versions of JAWS going back to JAWS16 and till have this problem.

 Normally, you should be able to hear the motor in your computer stop as it shuts down. Can you do this? If not, you should be able to see the light on your monitor go out. 

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I’m having the same issues on a Dell laptop with Windows 10 and Jaws 18.  Please let me know if you find out what the issue is …… Windows 10 or Jaws.

Laura

Sorry for the cross post. I’ve not seen any one on either list state this as an issue, however, there are two of us here that are having the same problem. The JAWS stutter gets so bad that you can’t complete any task. The speech will get so bad that you think that JAWS has just crashed. It also obviously affects scanning messages, documents and even just reading items off of your desktop.

Both of us also have Lenovo laptops and I’m not ruling that out either. The interesting thing is that I disconnected my Braille display and it has gotten much better, however, that’s not the kind of fix I want. I’m really interested in any feedback I can get to resolve this. We are moth using the latest JaWS2018, but I’ve seen this happening for a while and just thought it was my Laptop. We are using Windows10 and we both tried different versions of JAWS going back to JAWS16 and till have this problem.

I’m having the same issues on a Dell laptop with Windows 10 and Jaws 18.  Please let me know if you find out what the issue is …… Windows 10 or Jaws.

Laura

Sorry for the cross post. I’ve not seen any one on either list state this as an issue, however, there are two of us here that are having the same problem. The JAWS stutter gets so bad that you can’t complete any task. The speech will get so bad that you think that JAWS has just crashed. It also obviously affects scanning messages, documents and even just reading items off of your desktop.

Both of us also have Lenovo laptops and I’m not ruling that out either. The interesting thing is that I disconnected my Braille display and it has gotten much better, however, that’s not the kind of fix I want. I’m really interested in any feedback I can get to resolve this. We are moth using the latest JaWS2018, but I’ve seen this happening for a while and just thought it was my Laptop. We are using Windows10 and we both tried different versions of JAWS going back to JAWS16 and till have this problem.

Sorry for the cross post. I’ve not seen any one on either list state this as an issue, however, there are two of us here that are having the same problem. The JAWS stutter gets so bad that you can’t complete any task. The speech will get so bad that you think that JAWS has just crashed. It also obviously affects scanning messages, documents and even just reading items off of your desktop.

Both of us also have Lenovo laptops and I’m not ruling that out either. The interesting thing is that I disconnected my Braille display and it has gotten much better, however, that’s not the kind of fix I want. I’m really interested in any feedback I can get to resolve this. We are moth using the latest JaWS2018, but I’ve seen this happening for a while and just thought it was my Laptop. We are using Windows10 and we both tried different versions of JAWS going back to JAWS16 and till have this problem.

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:

This is the stupidest solution I've ever encountered,but apparently it's the only one.

I don't know why, in particular, you consider it stupid as this is pretty much how it's implemented "under the hood" on older versions of Windows, but the task is shipped with the OS and you don't know it's there.

This is also the solution I've posted and noted that it is not 100% reliable.  It seems to work perfectly on certain machines and not on others, and I believe a lot of that is secondary to exactly when the task gets triggered, or doesn't get triggered, during the shutdown process.  There are lots of factors that can affect this.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill

Hi, Don. First, the Startup sound does return if Fast Startup is checked, but not the shutdown sound.
Second, Do you get other system sounds, once you are logged on? In other words, do you get a ding sound if you press semicolon when on your desktop?
You must not only check Fast Startup to get a Startup sound. You must also check the box for Startup sound in your Sound settings in the Sounds tab.
Bill White
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10
Someone said if you uncheck fast startup in the power settings the
startup and shutdown sound options return. On my system they do not.
I wonder how many people that have fast startup enabled know that this
does not do the same as a restart? If you have fast startup enabled you
should on a regular basis do a system restart. I have fast startup
disabled as I think a full shutdown gives you better overall
performance. Can't think that a few more seconds for bootup is a
terrible thing.

Him

It’s been like this since Windows 8, with overall emphasis on making desktop experience similar to that of tablets and smartphones (with mixed success and bringing controversy along the way).

My overall impression is that shutdown sounds (or for that matter, system sounds) is NOT an indicator of level of accessibility of an operating system; they are “earcons” (ear plus icons), meant to convey confirmation of an event via audible means. To me, what defines accessibility is a combination of attitudes and technologies (some of you would recognize this statement, as I’ve been championing this since 2014 when Windows Insider Program was first launched). Attitudes matter because how users and developers understand accessibility and needs of customers will shape how accessible the end product will be. Technologies matter because without means of delivering on that attitudes, attempts at convincing the public and developers won’t be that strong. Thus, to me, lack of shutdown sounds is a small thing compared to attitudes of some developers who think it is okay to just design beautiful interfaces without giving thoughts to accessibility, and screen reader vendors are not exempt from this.

I do understand that what I said above may offend some of you. However, I think it is important for us to think about the big picture in the realm of accessibility.

Cheers,

Jsoeph

So I will say it again.  The shut down sound was there, and now it is not?  Why not?

Maria Campbell

lucky1inct@...

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"

--St. Francis

What about the fact that the iPhone and Mac don’t and have never had, shut down sounds? Why are we not bashing Apple as well? The point that has been made that Microsoft should focus on more important accessibility features rather than focusing on the shut down sound. The shut down sound is not an accessibility feature. And you’re right: they’re spending more time on accessibility features than worrying about a petty little concern that doesn’t even conclusively indicate anything. The computer is not shut down when you hear the sound. It is only shut down when the fans and hard drive stop.

Aleeha

 

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From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 12:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

 

Someone said if you uncheck fast startup in the power settings the

startup and shutdown sound options return.  On my system they do not.

I wonder how many people that have fast startup enabled know that this

does not do the same as a restart?  If you have fast startup enabled you

should on a regular basis do a system restart.  I have fast startup

disabled as I think a full shutdown gives you better overall

performance.  Can't think that a few more seconds for bootup is a

terrible thing.