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skype 8.25 and skype windows universal app impressions

Marvin Hunkin <neilmarvin@...>
 

Hi. using windows 10 64 bit pro 1803 and got jaws 2018, latest July update. And well found skype 8.25 a bit confusing and also it did not port over one contact which was my second brother, but it does in the windows 10 universal app. Find it a much cleaner interface, not sure about voicemail, forwarding, as don’t do that, I am on a skype group with a whole bunch of sighted students doing a interactive gaming and digital media course from http://www.upskilled.edu.au, and also the skype 8.25 scripts did install, but did not load, and so got the scripts for the universal app, but just the default scripts. I would stick to thewindows 10 universal app, much easier for me.

Just my two cents worth.

And got it from the Microsoft store in Australia.

Marvin from Adelaide, Australia.

 


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Pastor Gil Pries <revgil@...>
 

I can hear the fan turn off.

Pastor Gil

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 3:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10


So how can you tell for sure that your computer has shut down completely if
there is no sound like in Windows 7 and earlier? This is yet another reason
why I'm in no hurry to upgrade to Windows 10.

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

With Windows 10, there is no way to assign a shutdown sound.

Pastor Gil

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teresa
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 PM
To: JFW <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: shut down sound for windows 10

good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts down?
Thanks to all in advance.


Re: shut down sound for windows 10

cecropia64
 

Another way is to see if the lights on the machine go out.  I have a usb hub that has extremely bright lights.  I can tell if the computer is off when the lights go out.  I know that this won't help everybody but for those of you who have enough sight to see lights, it may be helpful.


Stew

On 7/30/2018 6:56 PM, Alan Robbins via Groups.Io wrote:
You can also listen for the fans to stop, at least in a tower

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 6:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

There is a bit of a trick to check for windows shut down. Wait a bit and try opening your CD drive. If it opens, you're not totally shut down. If not, shut down has taken place.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 7/30/2018 6:24 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:
So how can you tell for sure that your computer has shut down
completely if there is no sound like in Windows 7 and earlier? This is
yet another reason why I'm in no hurry to upgrade to Windows 10.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

With Windows 10, there is no way to assign a shutdown sound.

Pastor Gil

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teresa
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 PM
To: JFW <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: shut down sound for windows 10

good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts down?
Thanks to all in advance.














Re: shut down sound for windows 10

cecropia64
 

yup, me too.  I'm gonna use Windows 7 until Microsoft says "no more".  But by then I hope to have learned enough about Windows 10  to at least use it without too much of an issue.  We shall see about that.

On 7/30/2018 6:24 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

So how can you tell for sure that your computer has shut down completely if there is no sound like in Windows 7 and earlier? This is yet another reason why I'm in no hurry to upgrade to Windows 10.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

With Windows 10, there is no way to assign a shutdown sound.

Pastor Gil

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teresa
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 PM
To: JFW <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: shut down sound for windows 10

good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts down?
Thanks to all in advance.









Initial Skype for desktop 8 feedback

Cristóbal
 

Hello list,

So, some initial feedback after updating to Skype 8.x

Muscle memory issues with the new keystrokes aside which are always going to take a bit getting used to, I’m finding certain aspects to be quite frustrating. I’ve already written Microsoft about some of this via the feedback option in the app as well as on Twitter.

Anyway, the immediate thing is that with this updated version, there doesn’t seem to be any means to have the Skype ringer alert go to a separate audio source like external or PC speakers. There’s only one option for speakers which if you’re using a headset, which I’m pretty sure most if not all of us are using is the only viable option. More so for those of us who have a paid number. The end result is that when you get an incoming call, the ringer quite easily drowns out anything Jaws (in my case) may say. I don’t use the audio ducking feature as I find it to be too distracting. One can go into the speaker settings in Skype and lower the volume or the speaker settings in Windows 10 to lower Skype volume, but all that accomplishes is that in addition to the ringer being lowered, the call audio is lowered as well. Also, I’ve already twice missed an incoming call because I took my headset off for this or that reason and didn’t hear the ringer alert fast enough through the headset to put it back on and get to the Skype window in time to pick up.

I had mentioned previously that the hotkeys also no longer to appear to be universal. Indeed, this is the case. So now, when you get an incoming call, you have to scramble to the Skype window since at least for me, I’m not taken there automatically and if I’m in a different virtual desktop, the taskbar short cut win key plus X, Y or Z won’t work and try to listen to figure out if I’m finally in the Skype window which again, as described previously, isn’t as easy since the ringer is drowning everything else out. The few times I’ve had a chance to take an incoming call and used the control plus shift plus P command, Skype actually initiates an outgoing call as well as answering the incoming call. This . . . has proven to be problematic to say the least.

More than once already, I’ve found myself trying to orientate myself on the Skype screen to maybe tab to the answer button instead of using the hotkey to avoid this issue with answering/making a duel call, but so far, I haven’t been able to access the answer/accept call button in time.

This leads me into the other issue. I so far have not been able to find any of the telephone settings for Skype. Settings in Skype appear to be super basic. Nothing however for voicemail greeting, managing call forwarding and or ringer time. I know I can probably if need be access some of these features via the Skype web account, but talk about a needless step backwards.

One other thing for Jaws users (I don’t use NVDA enough to know how the dictionary manager works), I had a bunch of saved entries for phone numbers to speak this or that clinic. It seems that the Skype app is Chrome based so, they didn’t port over. I’m sure I can go into my Jaws settings and try and play around with changing a dictionary manager file association, but again, just another inconvenience.

IN broad terms, the app all in all seems accessible and navigating around like a webpage is easy enough, but it lacks some serious functionality.

It is much easier to make calls, but receiving/answering… it’s still rough to say the least.

 


Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Alan Robbins
 

You can also listen for the fans to stop, at least in a tower

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 6:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

There is a bit of a trick to check for windows shut down. Wait a bit and try opening your CD drive. If it opens, you're not totally shut down. If not, shut down has taken place.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 7/30/2018 6:24 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

So how can you tell for sure that your computer has shut down
completely if there is no sound like in Windows 7 and earlier? This is
yet another reason why I'm in no hurry to upgrade to Windows 10.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

With Windows 10, there is no way to assign a shutdown sound.

Pastor Gil

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teresa
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 PM
To: JFW <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: shut down sound for windows 10

good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts down?
Thanks to all in advance.









Re: shut down sound for windows 10

 

Related to Maria's trick is just using a jump drive or SD card.

If you plug in or pull either of the above you will typically get a system sound telling you that it's either connected and ready for use or that it (or some other) USB device has been removed.

If you yank a jump drive after doing a shutdown, and after waiting at least a reasonable amount of time for a shutdown to complete, you should be pretty safe in assuming that you are shut down if you don't get an auditory signal related to removing a USB device.

I have bent over backwards trying to find a consistent way to trigger a shutdown sound, but have not as yet found it.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

I have a new Del laptop that doesn't have a CD player. This won't work.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 3:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

There is a bit of a trick to check for windows shut down. Wait a bit
and try opening your CD drive. If it opens, you're not totally shut
down. If not, shut down has taken place.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 7/30/2018 6:24 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

So how can you tell for sure that your computer has shut down
completely if there is no sound like in Windows 7 and earlier? This is
yet another reason why I'm in no hurry to upgrade to Windows 10.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

With Windows 10, there is no way to assign a shutdown sound.

Pastor Gil

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teresa
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 PM
To: JFW <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: shut down sound for windows 10

good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts down?
Thanks to all in advance.









Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Maria Campbell
 

There is a bit of a trick to check for windows shut down.  Wait a bit and try opening your CD drive.  If it opens, you're not totally shut down.  If not, shut down has taken place.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 7/30/2018 6:24 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

So how can you tell for sure that your computer has shut down completely if there is no sound like in Windows 7 and earlier? This is yet another reason why I'm in no hurry to upgrade to Windows 10.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

With Windows 10, there is no way to assign a shutdown sound.

Pastor Gil

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teresa
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 PM
To: JFW <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: shut down sound for windows 10

good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts down?
Thanks to all in advance.








Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Gerald Levy
 

So how can you tell for sure that your computer has shut down completely if there is no sound like in Windows 7 and earlier? This is yet another reason why I'm in no hurry to upgrade to Windows 10.

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 5:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

With Windows 10, there is no way to assign a shutdown sound.

Pastor Gil

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teresa
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 PM
To: JFW <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: shut down sound for windows 10

good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts down?
Thanks to all in advance.


Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Mario
 

as I understand, Microsoft has disabled the ability to enable such a
sound, and many sighted users have tried rather involved methods but
none of the attempts have seemed to work reliably.
but, if some smart and savvy dude out there knows how to enable it,
please do post how with complete and concise steps.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Teresa [mailto:pennylain5@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, Jul 30, 2018 4:56 PM EST
To: JFW
Subject: shut down sound for windows 10

good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts down?
Thanks to all in advance.



.


Re: shut down sound for windows 10

Pastor Gil Pries <revgil@...>
 

With Windows 10, there is no way to assign a shutdown sound.

Pastor Gil

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teresa
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 1:56 PM
To: JFW <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: shut down sound for windows 10

good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts down?
Thanks to all in advance.


shut down sound for windows 10

Teresa
 

good afternoon list: how do I assign a sound when windows 10 shuts down? Thanks to all in advance.


Re: Firefox and JFW 15

Richard Turner
 

If the person is truly sticking to Jaws 15, he probably also needs to stick with Windows 7, if that is even possible.
Perhaps he needs to call VFO and see if he can update for less than an arm and a leg.
Even if Jaws 16 kind of works, it is not going to provide a very good experience.
Just my two cents,
Richard


"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain




On Jul 29, 2018, at 8:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

If it is indeed Windows 10 and the latest 1803 update I don't think Jaws 16 supports this any more at least not very well.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 7:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox and JFW 15

There is a 64 bit version of jaws 16.
On Jul 28, 2018, at 11:16 PM, Pat Byrne <k9jau@...> wrote:

Sorry, I should have included that this is WIN 64 bit.
PatAt 09:14 PM 7/28/2018, you wrote:
If here he is running windows 10 on the computer he must also have jaws 16 at the minimum.
On Jul 28, 2018, at 8:48 PM, Pat Byrne <k9jau@...> wrote:

i need to tap the group wisdom.
I'm helping a person get a replacement computer configured.  He has to stay with JFW 15 and is used to Firefox.  The version I downloaded today told me I needed to update my screen reader.  What version and I looking for, please?
Appreciate the assistance.
Pat Byrne

















Re: Firefox and JFW 15

 

If it is indeed Windows 10 and the latest 1803 update I don't think Jaws 16 supports this any more at least not very well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 7:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox and JFW 15

There is a 64 bit version of jaws 16.
On Jul 28, 2018, at 11:16 PM, Pat Byrne <k9jau@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Sorry, I should have included that this is WIN 64 bit.
PatAt 09:14 PM 7/28/2018, you wrote:
If here he is running windows 10 on the computer he must also have jaws 16 at the minimum.
On Jul 28, 2018, at 8:48 PM, Pat Byrne <k9jau@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

i need to tap the group wisdom.
I'm helping a person get a replacement computer configured. He has to stay with JFW 15 and is used to Firefox. The version I downloaded today told me I needed to update my screen reader. What version and I looking for, please?
Appreciate the assistance.
Pat Byrne






Re: programs running in the task tray

Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
 

awesome, thanks so much guys, that was perfect, works like a champ.

On 7/29/18, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Jed,

          Mike's answer is the correct one if this is something you need to
check frequently and quickly.  That being said, if you only need to check it
occasionally the task is already present, but in the overflow area.   When
you hit WinKey+B to throw focus to the system tray the first thing you land
on is the overflow chevron.  If you activate that, you are presented with a
grid of the running processes that are not shown in the main body of the
system tray on a constant basis.  If you use Up arrow it will cycle through
all the processes in the overflow area until it hits the first one, then it
jumps to the notification area on the system tray.  You can, of course, Down
arrow if you overshoot the process you were looking for.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

   The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the
right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill




Re: Firefox and JFW 15

Marianne Denning
 

There is a 64 bit version of jaws 16.

On Jul 28, 2018, at 11:16 PM, Pat Byrne <k9jau@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Sorry, I should have included that this is WIN 64 bit.
PatAt 09:14 PM 7/28/2018, you wrote:
If here he is running windows 10 on the computer he must also have jaws 16 at the minimum.
On Jul 28, 2018, at 8:48 PM, Pat Byrne <k9jau@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

i need to tap the group wisdom.
I'm helping a person get a replacement computer configured. He has to stay with JFW 15 and is used to Firefox. The version I downloaded today told me I needed to update my screen reader. What version and I looking for, please?
Appreciate the assistance.
Pat Byrne






Re: programs running in the task tray

 

Jed,

          Mike's answer is the correct one if this is something you need to check frequently and quickly.  That being said, if you only need to check it occasionally the task is already present, but in the overflow area.   When you hit WinKey+B to throw focus to the system tray the first thing you land on is the overflow chevron.  If you activate that, you are presented with a grid of the running processes that are not shown in the main body of the system tray on a constant basis.  If you use Up arrow it will cycle through all the processes in the overflow area until it hits the first one, then it jumps to the notification area on the system tray.  You can, of course, Down arrow if you overshoot the process you were looking for.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Jaws question

 

As others pointed out, Google has made it easier to narrow your search, the "Search Modes" has "All" selected by default, but here you can narrow your search down to images, maps, news or shopping,
You can still use the headings quick nav key "h" to find the beginning of the search results and go from result to result with heading level 3.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Pearson
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2018 10:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws question

Hello all:

Recently, I've noticed Jaws saying "search Modes" whenever I do an Internet search for something. This announcement is fairly new, and I don't remember hearing this phrase announced before.

Has some setting been inadvertently changed(either Jaws, or pc), and if yes, is it OK to leave this alone?

Sincerely yours,



David S. Pearson


Re: good ssh clients that work with jfw

Steve Matzura
 

Yes. c:\Windows\System32\Drivers\Etc\Hosts

On 7/28/2018 8:47 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
ok, so on power shell, i wanna ssh into 1 of my boxes. Is there a
place i can put the IP address to ssh into it?

On 7/28/18, John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
ssh is not recognized in my windows 10 installation -- is there some
package I need for that to work, or is it just in 1803?
On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 18:19:57 -0400,
Steve Matzura wrote:
I've been a TeraTerm user  for years, but I think I'm a
PowerShell ssh convert. I like the accessibility much better than
TeraTerm even with a modicum of scripting behind it. Thanks for
the great tip!


On 7/28/2018 2:06 PM, Andre Polykanine wrote:
Hello Jed,
If you use Windows 10 latest, I'd suggest native openSSH client. Just
open a Powershell window, type in ssh root@your.server.ip - and you're
all set. At least, here it is like this.



--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com