Re: Trouble with "task switching"
On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 02:23 am, paul lemm wrote:
I still disagree,You can disagree until the cows come home. What is being described, repeatedly and by many including yourself, is known as giving focus. The restoration up of the window which is given focus is part and parcel of the process if it has been minimized in the first place. In many cases (most, when it comes to my non-sighted users) the windows have never been minimized in the first place. They're all just stacked and it's a matter of which one is brought to the top of that stack of full sized windows when focus is thrown to it. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment. ~ Dorothy Nevill
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Re: How do I activate a notification?
Jason White
The quickest way that I’ve found is to use Alt+F within Office to get to the backstage view, then move down to the Office Account tab with Down-Arrow, then use the tab key to move across to the updates control, where you can press a button to install updates.
From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Ashleigh Piccinino <apiccinino@...>
If I remember right, you press tab to get to single click
On Jul 8, 2018, at 5:45 AM, Kevin Minor <kminor65@...> wrote:
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Re: using cortana
Nino Dagostino
Thank you very much.
Have a good day.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2018 9:32 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: using cortana
Here is something I found on the web.
The complete list of Cortana commands (Almost) everything you can say to Cortana. BYSARAH JACOBSSON PUREWAL MAY 6, 2016 8:30 AM PDT
If you don't use Cortana, Microsoft's voice-activated personal assistant, you're missing out on some handy, hands-free functionality -- especially now that she's fully integrated into Windows 10, and Windows 10 is everywhere .
Like Apple's Siri and Google's Google Now, Cortana is an intelligent personal assistant who can help you with everything from launching applications to scheduling appointments. She can even adjust a handful of device settings, such as toggling your Wi-Fi on and off. Microsoft hasn't published a full list of Cortana commands, so we pulled together this unofficial list of all the things you can ask or say to Cortana on Windows 10 devices.
Hey, Cortana
There are a few ways to get Cortana's attention.
• Click or tap the Cortana button on the taskbar. If you do not see Cortana on your taskbar, right-click the taskbar and go to Cortana > Show Cortana icon . • If you have 'Hey, Cortana' enabled, simply say "Hey, Cortana," followed by your question. • If you're using a Windows Phone, you can press and hold the search button to activate Cortana.
Basics
• Ask about the weather. Ex.: "What's the weather like?" or "What will the weather be like in two days?" or "Is it going to rain tomorrow?"
• Launch a program or open a website. Ex.: "Launch Mozilla Firefox" or "Open CNET.com."
• Make a phone call. Ex.: "Call Sarah," or "Call John on speakerphone."
• Hear Cortana read the top news headlines. Ex.: "Show me top headlines."
• Take a note in OneNote. Ex.: "Take a note" or "Note it down."
• Draft an email. Ex.: "Write an email to [contact] saying [message]."
• Draft a text message. Ex.: "Write a text to [contact] saying [message]."
• See texts or emails from a specific person. Ex.: "Show me emails from Timmy."
• Perform simple calculations. Ex.: "What's 35 times 16?" or "What's 23 minus two?"
• Perform conversions. Ex.: "What is five miles in kilometers" or "How many teaspoons in a cup?"
• Define a word. Ex.: "What's the definition of 'table'?" or "Do you know what 'gargantuan' means?"
• Track packages (needs email account configured in the Mail app). Ex.: "Where are my packages?"
Settings
• Turn on/off Wi-Fi.
• Turn on/off Bluetooth.
• Turn on/off Airplane Mode. list end
Scheduling/Reminders
"What do I have next week?" or "When is my dentist appointment?"
• Add an appointment to your calendar. Ex.: "Add dentist appointment to Thursday at 3 p.m." or "Schedule phone call with Lisa tomorrow at 5 a.m."
• Move an appointment. Ex.: "Move my dentist appointment to Friday."
• Set up reminders based on time, person, or location. Ex.: "Remind me to call Timmy at 2 p.m." or "Remind me to ask about vacation time when I talk to Jenny" or "Remind me to take out the trash when I get home." Reminders can be one-offs or recurring (e.g., every Wednesday), and location-based reminders require a mobile device.
• Set an alarm. Ex.: "Set an alarm for 9 a.m." or "Wake me up in an hour."
• Show me my alarms.
• Ask about major holidays. Ex.: "What day is Christmas?" or "When is Labor Day?" list end
Search
• Find pictures, videos, documents, etc., on your device from a specific time frame. Ex.: "Find pictures from last week" or "Find documents from May 2015" or "Find videos from yesterday."
• Search files by name. Ex.: "Can you find a document called CNET?" or "Can you find a picture called 'cute dog'?"
• See basic search results, such as information about public figures, companies, places, and pop culture in Cortana's windows (without opening a browser window). Ex.: "How tall is Harrison Ford?" or "Who is the CEO of Google?" or "When was the Lincoln Memorial built?" list end
Maps/Navigation
• Where am I?
• Show me driving/public transit/walking directions to [location/landmark].
• How long will it take me to get to [location]?
• What is traffic like on the way to [location]?
• Show me a map of [location]. Ex.: "Show me a map of downtown Los Angeles," or "Show me a map of the area around Disneyland." list end
Entertainment
• Look up a sports score. Ex.: "What was the score of the last Detroit Tigers game?"
• Find the run time of a movie. Ex.: "How long is Star Wars: Episode I?"
• Control music in the Groove app. Ex.: "Play [artist/song/genre/playlist/album]," or "Shuffle the music."
• Limited control over music in other apps. Ex.: "Pause song" or "skip track."
• Identify the song that's playing. Ex.: "What is this song?"
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain
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Re: using cortana
Ann Byrne
Cortana can also be accessed with Windows key+c.
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At 08:31 AM 7/8/2018, you wrote:
Here is something I found on the web.
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Re: Searching in Outlook for emails
Debby Hill
Press F6 and that will get you to the list of email.
Debby
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 9:14 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Searching in Outlook for emails
Hello, I’m using Windows 10 and Outlook 2018. I used control, shift and F to search for certain emails in the inbox. Once I do the search I cannot get out of the search to see which emails show up. So I hit escape and then nothing shows up. What may I be doing wrong?
Kevin Meyers
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Re: using cortana
Richard Turner
Here is something I found on the web.
The complete list of Cortana commands (Almost) everything you can say to Cortana. BYSARAH JACOBSSON PUREWAL MAY 6, 2016 8:30 AM PDT
If you don't use Cortana, Microsoft's voice-activated personal assistant, you're missing out on some handy, hands-free functionality -- especially now that she's fully integrated into Windows 10, and Windows 10 is everywhere .
Like Apple's Siri and Google's Google Now, Cortana is an intelligent personal assistant who can help you with everything from launching applications to scheduling appointments. She can even adjust a handful of device settings, such as toggling your Wi-Fi on and off. Microsoft hasn't published a full list of Cortana commands, so we pulled together this unofficial list of all the things you can ask or say to Cortana on Windows 10 devices.
Hey, Cortana
There are a few ways to get Cortana's attention.
• Click or tap the Cortana button on the taskbar. If you do not see Cortana on your taskbar, right-click the taskbar and go to Cortana > Show Cortana icon . • If you have 'Hey, Cortana' enabled, simply say "Hey, Cortana," followed by your question. • If you're using a Windows Phone, you can press and hold the search button to activate Cortana.
Basics
• Ask about the weather. Ex.: "What's the weather like?" or "What will the weather be like in two days?" or "Is it going to rain tomorrow?"
• Launch a program or open a website. Ex.: "Launch Mozilla Firefox" or "Open CNET.com."
• Make a phone call. Ex.: "Call Sarah," or "Call John on speakerphone."
• Hear Cortana read the top news headlines. Ex.: "Show me top headlines."
• Take a note in OneNote. Ex.: "Take a note" or "Note it down."
• Draft an email. Ex.: "Write an email to [contact] saying [message]."
• Draft a text message. Ex.: "Write a text to [contact] saying [message]."
• See texts or emails from a specific person. Ex.: "Show me emails from Timmy."
• Perform simple calculations. Ex.: "What's 35 times 16?" or "What's 23 minus two?"
• Perform conversions. Ex.: "What is five miles in kilometers" or "How many teaspoons in a cup?"
• Define a word. Ex.: "What's the definition of 'table'?" or "Do you know what 'gargantuan' means?"
• Track packages (needs email account configured in the Mail app). Ex.: "Where are my packages?"
Settings
• Turn on/off Wi-Fi.
• Turn on/off Bluetooth.
• Turn on/off Airplane Mode. list end
Scheduling/Reminders
"What do I have next week?" or "When is my dentist appointment?"
• Add an appointment to your calendar. Ex.: "Add dentist appointment to Thursday at 3 p.m." or "Schedule phone call with Lisa tomorrow at 5 a.m."
• Move an appointment. Ex.: "Move my dentist appointment to Friday."
• Set up reminders based on time, person, or location. Ex.: "Remind me to call Timmy at 2 p.m." or "Remind me to ask about vacation time when I talk to Jenny" or "Remind me to take out the trash when I get home." Reminders can be one-offs or recurring (e.g., every Wednesday), and location-based reminders require a mobile device.
• Set an alarm. Ex.: "Set an alarm for 9 a.m." or "Wake me up in an hour."
• Show me my alarms.
• Ask about major holidays. Ex.: "What day is Christmas?" or "When is Labor Day?" list end
Search
• Find pictures, videos, documents, etc., on your device from a specific time frame. Ex.: "Find pictures from last week" or "Find documents from May 2015" or "Find videos from yesterday."
• Search files by name. Ex.: "Can you find a document called CNET?" or "Can you find a picture called 'cute dog'?"
• See basic search results, such as information about public figures, companies, places, and pop culture in Cortana's windows (without opening a browser window). Ex.: "How tall is Harrison Ford?" or "Who is the CEO of Google?" or "When was the Lincoln Memorial built?" list end
Maps/Navigation
• Where am I?
• Show me driving/public transit/walking directions to [location/landmark].
• How long will it take me to get to [location]?
• What is traffic like on the way to [location]?
• Show me a map of [location]. Ex.: "Show me a map of downtown Los Angeles," or "Show me a map of the area around Disneyland." list end
Entertainment
• Look up a sports score. Ex.: "What was the score of the last Detroit Tigers game?"
• Find the run time of a movie. Ex.: "How long is Star Wars: Episode I?"
• Control music in the Groove app. Ex.: "Play [artist/song/genre/playlist/album]," or "Shuffle the music."
• Limited control over music in other apps. Ex.: "Pause song" or "skip track."
• Identify the song that's playing. Ex.: "What is this song?"
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain
On Jul 8, 2018, at 6:18 AM, Dennis Brown <dennistbrown@...> wrote:
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Re: Trouble with "task switching"
paul lemm
Hi Dave,
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Yep, it was a great match, I'm from the UK and both me and my little boy watched the match yesterday. Looking forward to Wednesday now! Paul
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: 08 July 2018 13:57 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching" Hello Paul: I was glad to help you clarrify what you wanted to say. As for my weekend, it has been made that much better, with the win by England over Sweeden, to progress to the semifinals at the football World Cup in Russia. This afternoon, if it is available, I will listen to the game on the listen again link on the BBC web site. Sincerely: Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "paul lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 1:09 PM Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching" Hi Dave, Yep, I agree , the program is never closed therefore when I said it opens the program as you pointed out this is incorrect. As to your point about focus and the program being miniaturised whilst not in use and then maximised when you alt tab to it and focus then being changed to that newly maximised window, I agree with you completely, , I think that’s what I was trying to say, but I didn't explain myself well. Anyways thanks for the reply and hope you're having a good weekend. Paul -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: 08 July 2018 12:31 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching" Hello Paul: When you have several programs open and Windows has given focus to one of those programs, the other programs which are open, are not minimized. All the programs you have open and running, are using the same amount of memory, regardless as to whether one of them has focus or not. What gets minimized, are the open display windows for the programs which do not have focus. They appear as miniaturized versions of the maximized program windows. So, by definition, the fact that these programs are open and running in the background and their windows are open and minimized, means they are not closed. When you hold down the ALT key and tap the TAB key, to cycle through the list of open programs, each miniaturized window is highlighted, and for a person who is using a screen reader, what gets spoken by a screen reader, are the text labels for the miniaturized windows of the programs running in the background. It is the release of the ALT key on one of the other open programs with its miniaturized window, which instructs Windows to maximize that programs window and give focus to that program. sincerely: Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "paul lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 10:23 AM Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching" Hi, I still disagree, since the program is minimised you need to open that window, you could argue open is not the right word and that maximise or restore that window would be more appropriate. But to shift focus implies moving the view to something which can be seen elsewhere, although you are right the program is stored in memory its visual representation is removed when you open a new program, so no matter how much you move the view or shift focus you cannot then see this program without first restoring that program window, it is then only at this point you are able to shift focus to that window. . However all this being said, honestly I think we could all spend ages arguing/debating the technical definition of what focus means and whether it does or does not apply to this situation or not, but this has moved far out of the realms of anything to do with jaws and I don't wish to block up the mailing list with non jaws related content. so in the interest of putting the whole focus topic to bed I will take on board everyone's points and views and just hope that the original poster has managed to solve his problem. Paul -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: 08 July 2018 01:18 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching" I support Dave on this one. If you're rotating through a list of things that are open, how could they be opened any further or better by focusing on them? Answer: they cannot. Once you load data into memory and give the supervisor (a.k.a. the operating system) a memory address to pick up the next instruction, also known as running or opening a program, that's as open as it gets. Rotating through the open programs, then releasing the TAB key on one of them, does only one thing that's special--it allows the user--that's you--to interact with said program via its interface--namely, any input or output channels said program may have commandeered for that purpose, such as a keyboard, mouse, microphone, video display, audio interface, printer, or any other driver software that acts as the go-between between said program and some unknown piece of hardware. The only thing that gets opened when releasing the TAB key whilst cycling through a list of running programs is that program's user window. On 7/7/2018 5:00 PM, paul lemm wrote: Hi Dave,
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Re: using cortana
Dennis Brown
David Moore,
Can we get a tutorial on Cortana’s uses? I find your Google Chrome
tutorial very helpful.
From: Nino
Dagostino
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 7:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: using cortana When I use Cortana a second window opens up, is there any to prevent that window from opening?
I know the window opens up because when I alt tab after using Cortana I have to close that window.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Searching in Outlook for emails
kevin meyers
Hello, I’m using Windows 10 and Outlook 2018. I used control, shift and F to search for certain emails in the inbox. Once I do the search I cannot get out of the search to see which emails show up. So I hit escape and then nothing shows up. What may I be doing wrong?
Kevin Meyers
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Re: Trouble with "task switching"
Dave Durber
Hello Paul:
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I was glad to help you clarrify what you wanted to say. As for my weekend, it has been made that much better, with the win by England over Sweeden, to progress to the semifinals at the football World Cup in Russia. This afternoon, if it is available, I will listen to the game on the listen again link on the BBC web site. Sincerely: Dave Durber
----- Original Message -----
From: "paul lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 1:09 PM Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching" Hi Dave, Yep, I agree , the program is never closed therefore when I said it opens the program as you pointed out this is incorrect. As to your point about focus and the program being miniaturised whilst not in use and then maximised when you alt tab to it and focus then being changed to that newly maximised window, I agree with you completely, , I think that’s what I was trying to say, but I didn't explain myself well. Anyways thanks for the reply and hope you're having a good weekend. Paul -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: 08 July 2018 12:31 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching" Hello Paul: When you have several programs open and Windows has given focus to one of those programs, the other programs which are open, are not minimized. All the programs you have open and running, are using the same amount of memory, regardless as to whether one of them has focus or not. What gets minimized, are the open display windows for the programs which do not have focus. They appear as miniaturized versions of the maximized program windows. So, by definition, the fact that these programs are open and running in the background and their windows are open and minimized, means they are not closed. When you hold down the ALT key and tap the TAB key, to cycle through the list of open programs, each miniaturized window is highlighted, and for a person who is using a screen reader, what gets spoken by a screen reader, are the text labels for the miniaturized windows of the programs running in the background. It is the release of the ALT key on one of the other open programs with its miniaturized window, which instructs Windows to maximize that programs window and give focus to that program. sincerely: Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "paul lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 10:23 AM Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching" Hi, I still disagree, since the program is minimised you need to open that window, you could argue open is not the right word and that maximise or restore that window would be more appropriate. But to shift focus implies moving the view to something which can be seen elsewhere, although you are right the program is stored in memory its visual representation is removed when you open a new program, so no matter how much you move the view or shift focus you cannot then see this program without first restoring that program window, it is then only at this point you are able to shift focus to that window. . However all this being said, honestly I think we could all spend ages arguing/debating the technical definition of what focus means and whether it does or does not apply to this situation or not, but this has moved far out of the realms of anything to do with jaws and I don't wish to block up the mailing list with non jaws related content. so in the interest of putting the whole focus topic to bed I will take on board everyone's points and views and just hope that the original poster has managed to solve his problem. Paul -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: 08 July 2018 01:18 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching" I support Dave on this one. If you're rotating through a list of things that are open, how could they be opened any further or better by focusing on them? Answer: they cannot. Once you load data into memory and give the supervisor (a.k.a. the operating system) a memory address to pick up the next instruction, also known as running or opening a program, that's as open as it gets. Rotating through the open programs, then releasing the TAB key on one of them, does only one thing that's special--it allows the user--that's you--to interact with said program via its interface--namely, any input or output channels said program may have commandeered for that purpose, such as a keyboard, mouse, microphone, video display, audio interface, printer, or any other driver software that acts as the go-between between said program and some unknown piece of hardware. The only thing that gets opened when releasing the TAB key whilst cycling through a list of running programs is that program's user window. On 7/7/2018 5:00 PM, paul lemm wrote: Hi Dave,
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Re: Trouble with "task switching"
paul lemm
Hi Dave,
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Yep, I agree , the program is never closed therefore when I said it opens the program as you pointed out this is incorrect. As to your point about focus and the program being miniaturised whilst not in use and then maximised when you alt tab to it and focus then being changed to that newly maximised window, I agree with you completely, , I think that’s what I was trying to say, but I didn't explain myself well. Anyways thanks for the reply and hope you're having a good weekend. Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber Sent: 08 July 2018 12:31 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching" Hello Paul: When you have several programs open and Windows has given focus to one of those programs, the other programs which are open, are not minimized. All the programs you have open and running, are using the same amount of memory, regardless as to whether one of them has focus or not. What gets minimized, are the open display windows for the programs which do not have focus. They appear as miniaturized versions of the maximized program windows. So, by definition, the fact that these programs are open and running in the background and their windows are open and minimized, means they are not closed. When you hold down the ALT key and tap the TAB key, to cycle through the list of open programs, each miniaturized window is highlighted, and for a person who is using a screen reader, what gets spoken by a screen reader, are the text labels for the miniaturized windows of the programs running in the background. It is the release of the ALT key on one of the other open programs with its miniaturized window, which instructs Windows to maximize that programs window and give focus to that program. sincerely: Dave Durber ----- Original Message ----- From: "paul lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 10:23 AM Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching" Hi, I still disagree, since the program is minimised you need to open that window, you could argue open is not the right word and that maximise or restore that window would be more appropriate. But to shift focus implies moving the view to something which can be seen elsewhere, although you are right the program is stored in memory its visual representation is removed when you open a new program, so no matter how much you move the view or shift focus you cannot then see this program without first restoring that program window, it is then only at this point you are able to shift focus to that window. . However all this being said, honestly I think we could all spend ages arguing/debating the technical definition of what focus means and whether it does or does not apply to this situation or not, but this has moved far out of the realms of anything to do with jaws and I don't wish to block up the mailing list with non jaws related content. so in the interest of putting the whole focus topic to bed I will take on board everyone's points and views and just hope that the original poster has managed to solve his problem. Paul -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: 08 July 2018 01:18 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching" I support Dave on this one. If you're rotating through a list of things that are open, how could they be opened any further or better by focusing on them? Answer: they cannot. Once you load data into memory and give the supervisor (a.k.a. the operating system) a memory address to pick up the next instruction, also known as running or opening a program, that's as open as it gets. Rotating through the open programs, then releasing the TAB key on one of them, does only one thing that's special--it allows the user--that's you--to interact with said program via its interface--namely, any input or output channels said program may have commandeered for that purpose, such as a keyboard, mouse, microphone, video display, audio interface, printer, or any other driver software that acts as the go-between between said program and some unknown piece of hardware. The only thing that gets opened when releasing the TAB key whilst cycling through a list of running programs is that program's user window. On 7/7/2018 5:00 PM, paul lemm wrote: Hi Dave,
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using cortana
Nino Dagostino
When I use Cortana a second window opens up, is there any to prevent that window from opening?
I know the window opens up because when I alt tab after using Cortana I have to close that window.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: "Ghost Reading" in JAWS 2018
Ashleigh Piccinino
I’ve never heard of that happening
On Jun 26, 2018, at 5:27 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
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Re: Trouble with "task switching"
Dave Durber
Hello Paul:
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When you have several programs open and Windows has given focus to one of those programs, the other programs which are open, are not minimized. All the programs you have open and running, are using the same amount of memory, regardless as to whether one of them has focus or not. What gets minimized, are the open display windows for the programs which do not have focus. They appear as miniaturized versions of the maximized program windows. So, by definition, the fact that these programs are open and running in the background and their windows are open and minimized, means they are not closed. When you hold down the ALT key and tap the TAB key, to cycle through the list of open programs, each miniaturized window is highlighted, and for a person who is using a screen reader, what gets spoken by a screen reader, are the text labels for the miniaturized windows of the programs running in the background. It is the release of the ALT key on one of the other open programs with its miniaturized window, which instructs Windows to maximize that programs window and give focus to that program. sincerely: Dave Durber
----- Original Message -----
From: "paul lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 10:23 AM Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching" Hi, I still disagree, since the program is minimised you need to open that window, you could argue open is not the right word and that maximise or restore that window would be more appropriate. But to shift focus implies moving the view to something which can be seen elsewhere, although you are right the program is stored in memory its visual representation is removed when you open a new program, so no matter how much you move the view or shift focus you cannot then see this program without first restoring that program window, it is then only at this point you are able to shift focus to that window. . However all this being said, honestly I think we could all spend ages arguing/debating the technical definition of what focus means and whether it does or does not apply to this situation or not, but this has moved far out of the realms of anything to do with jaws and I don't wish to block up the mailing list with non jaws related content. so in the interest of putting the whole focus topic to bed I will take on board everyone's points and views and just hope that the original poster has managed to solve his problem. Paul -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: 08 July 2018 01:18 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching" I support Dave on this one. If you're rotating through a list of things that are open, how could they be opened any further or better by focusing on them? Answer: they cannot. Once you load data into memory and give the supervisor (a.k.a. the operating system) a memory address to pick up the next instruction, also known as running or opening a program, that's as open as it gets. Rotating through the open programs, then releasing the TAB key on one of them, does only one thing that's special--it allows the user--that's you--to interact with said program via its interface--namely, any input or output channels said program may have commandeered for that purpose, such as a keyboard, mouse, microphone, video display, audio interface, printer, or any other driver software that acts as the go-between between said program and some unknown piece of hardware. The only thing that gets opened when releasing the TAB key whilst cycling through a list of running programs is that program's user window. On 7/7/2018 5:00 PM, paul lemm wrote: Hi Dave,
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Re: How do I activate a notification?
Ashleigh Piccinino
If I remember right, you press tab to get to single click
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On Jul 8, 2018, at 5:45 AM, Kevin Minor <kminor65@...> wrote:
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Re: "Clickable" WHAT?
Ashleigh Piccinino
Sorry about that dictation messed up I said draws settings
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On Jul 7, 2018, at 1:06 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
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Re: jfw and anti-virus programs
Nino Dagostino
Good morning:
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I recommend Windows defender for windows 10 I had other spyware/virus programs on my computer. Microsoft told me my computer would not update because I had third party tools on my computer. I uninstalled those tools, Still had to reinstall windows but, Microsoft helped. I hope that can point you in the right direction. Have a good day.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2018 11:43 PM To: main <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: jfw and anti-virus programs Hey guys OK so i just got a new del laptop. Jfw is working great, super fast on this solid state drive. So now i'm just trying to protect from the outside world. What's the best and most accessible virus protection, any pointers? Cheers, Jed
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An update on my Office 365 update.
Kevin Minor
Hi again.
I don’t know what I did, but a window came up indicating I should save my work. I closed all programs and hit the Continue? Button. All references to the update disappeared, so it means that either I got everything updated, or it’s in limbo. Oh well, Office is working now so I won’t worry about it. I’d still like help on how to handle these notifications in the future.
Thanks for any ideas.
Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard. Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY
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Logitec 780 manual
Nino Dagostino
Good morning:
Is there any way to download the Logitec keyboard manual.
When I try to download the manual and I do a applications key and arrow down to save tartet as it wont let me download the pdf file.
I have another question, What is the dongle for?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you.
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How do I activate a notification?
Kevin Minor
Hi.
I’ve looked at the system tray with both JAWS+B and INSERT+F11. Both of these indicate Office updates are available. Problem is I don’t know how to activate the update. When I tried JAWS+B hitting space or enter on it did nothing, and the applications key didn’t do anything either. When I hit INSERT+F11, I see the office update option there. When I left double click on it, I get a ding sound and a notification that there are updates for office, and I need to click on it to start it. I hit WINDOWS+A and I either see collapse something, or set the PC into tablet mode. How do I activate the update? It’s not in the list of WINDOWS+A options.
Thanks for any help.
Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard. Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY
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