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Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Brian Vogel
 

On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 02:23 am, paul lemm wrote:
I still disagree,
You can disagree until the cows come home.  What is being described, repeatedly and by many including yourself, is known as giving focus.  The restoration up of the window which is given focus is part and parcel of the process if it has been minimized in the first place.  In many cases (most, when it comes to my non-sighted users) the windows have never been minimized in the first place.  They're all just stacked and it's a matter of which one is brought to the top of that stack of full sized windows when focus is thrown to it.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

          ~ Dorothy Nevill
Re: How do I activate a notification?

Jason White
 

The quickest way that I’ve found is to use Alt+F within Office to get to the backstage view, then move down to the Office Account tab with Down-Arrow, then use the tab key to move across to the updates control, where you can press a button to install updates.

 

From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Ashleigh Piccinino <apiccinino@...>
Reply-To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 07:26
To: "main@jfw.groups.io" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: How do I activate a notification?

 

If I remember right, you press tab to get to single click


On Jul 8, 2018, at 5:45 AM, Kevin Minor <kminor65@...> wrote:

Hi.

 

I’ve looked at the system tray with both JAWS+B and INSERT+F11.  Both of these indicate Office updates are available.  Problem is I don’t know how to activate the update.  When I tried JAWS+B hitting space or enter on it did nothing, and the applications key didn’t do anything either.  When I hit INSERT+F11, I see the office update option there.  When I left double click on it, I get a ding sound and a notification that there are updates for office, and I need to click on it to start it.  I hit WINDOWS+A and I either see collapse something, or set the PC into tablet mode.  How do I activate the update?  It’s not in the list of WINDOWS+A options.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY
Re: using cortana

Nino Dagostino
 

Thank you very much.

 

Have a good day.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2018 9:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: using cortana

 

 Here is something I found on the web.

 

The complete list of Cortana commands

(Almost) everything you can say to Cortana.

BYSARAH JACOBSSON PUREWAL 

MAY 6, 2016 8:30 AM PDT

 

If you don't use Cortana, Microsoft's voice-activated personal assistant, you're missing out on some handy, hands-free functionality -- especially now that she's fully integrated into Windows 10, and  Windows 10 is  everywhere . 

 

Like Apple's Siri and Google's Google Now, Cortana is an intelligent personal assistant who can help you with everything from launching applications to scheduling appointments. She can even adjust a handful of device settings, such as toggling your Wi-Fi on and off. Microsoft hasn't published a full list of Cortana commands, so we pulled together this unofficial list of all the things you can ask or say to Cortana on Windows 10 devices.

 

Hey, Cortana

 

There are a few ways to get Cortana's attention.

 

• Click or tap the Cortana button on the taskbar. If you do not see Cortana on your taskbar, right-click the taskbar and go to Cortana > Show Cortana icon . • If you have 'Hey, Cortana' enabled, simply say "Hey, Cortana," followed by your question.  

• If you're using a Windows Phone, you can press and hold the search button to activate Cortana. 

 

Basics

 

• Ask about the weather. Ex.: "What's the weather like?" or "What will the weather be like in two days?" or "Is it going to rain tomorrow?"

 

• Launch a program or open a website. Ex.: "Launch Mozilla Firefox" or "Open CNET.com."

 

• Make a phone call. Ex.: "Call Sarah," or "Call John on speakerphone."

 

• Hear Cortana read the top news headlines. Ex.: "Show me top headlines." 

 

• Take a note in OneNote. Ex.: "Take a note" or "Note it down."

 

• Draft an email. Ex.: "Write an email to [contact] saying [message]." 

 

• Draft a text message. Ex.: "Write a text to [contact] saying [message]."

 

• See texts or emails from a specific person. Ex.: "Show me emails from Timmy."

 

• Perform simple calculations. Ex.: "What's 35 times 16?" or "What's 23 minus two?"

 

• Perform conversions. Ex.: "What is five miles in kilometers" or "How many teaspoons in a cup?"

 

• Define a word. Ex.: "What's the definition of 'table'?" or "Do you know what 'gargantuan' means?"

 

• Track packages (needs email account configured in the Mail app). Ex.: "Where are my packages?"  

 

Settings

 

• Turn on/off Wi-Fi.

 

• Turn on/off Bluetooth.

 

• Turn on/off Airplane Mode. list end

 

Scheduling/Reminders

 

"What do I have next week?" or "When is my dentist appointment?"

 

• Add an appointment to your calendar. Ex.: "Add dentist appointment to Thursday at 3 p.m." or "Schedule phone call with Lisa tomorrow at 5 a.m."

 

• Move an appointment. Ex.: "Move my dentist appointment to Friday."

 

• Set up reminders based on time, person, or location. Ex.: "Remind me to call Timmy at 2 p.m." or "Remind me to ask about vacation time when I talk to Jenny" or "Remind me to take out the trash when I get home." Reminders can be one-offs or recurring (e.g., every Wednesday), and location-based reminders require a mobile device.

 

• Set an alarm. Ex.: "Set an alarm for 9 a.m." or "Wake me up in an hour."

 

• Show me my alarms.

 

• Ask about major holidays. Ex.: "What day is Christmas?" or "When is Labor Day?" list end

 

Search

 

• Find pictures, videos, documents, etc., on your device from a specific time frame. Ex.: "Find pictures from last week" or "Find documents from May 2015" or "Find videos from yesterday."

 

• Search files by name. Ex.: "Can you find a document called CNET?" or "Can you find a picture called 'cute dog'?"

 

• See basic search results, such as information about public figures, companies, places, and pop culture in Cortana's windows (without opening a browser window). Ex.: "How tall is Harrison Ford?" or "Who is the CEO of Google?" or "When was the Lincoln Memorial built?" list end

 

Maps/Navigation

 

• Where am I?

 

• Show me driving/public transit/walking directions to [location/landmark].

 

• How long will it take me to get to [location]?

 

• What is traffic like on the way to [location]?

 

• Show me a map of [location]. Ex.: "Show me a map of downtown Los Angeles," or "Show me a map of the area around Disneyland." list end

 

Entertainment

 

• Look up a sports score. Ex.: "What was the score of the last Detroit Tigers game?"

 

• Find the run time of a movie. Ex.: "How long is Star Wars: Episode I?"

 

• Control music in the Groove app. Ex.: "Play [artist/song/genre/playlist/album]," or "Shuffle the music."

 

• Limited control over music in other apps. Ex.: "Pause song" or "skip track."

 

• Identify the song that's playing. Ex.: "What is this song?"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain



 


On Jul 8, 2018, at 6:18 AM, Dennis Brown <dennistbrown@...> wrote:

David Moore,

Can we get a tutorial on Cortana’s uses?  I find your Google Chrome tutorial very helpful.

 

From: Nino Dagostino

Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 7:39 AM

Subject: using cortana

 

When I use Cortana a second window opens up, is there any to prevent that window from opening?

 

I know the window opens up because when I alt tab after using Cortana I have to close that window.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

 
Re: using cortana

Ann Byrne
 

Cortana can also be accessed with Windows key+c.

At 08:31 AM 7/8/2018, you wrote:

Here is something I found on the web.


The complete list of Cortana commands

(Almost) everything you can say to Cortana.

BYSARAH JACOBSSON PUREWAL

MAY 6, 2016 8:30 AM PDT


If you don't use Cortana, Microsoft's voice-activated personal assistant, you're missing out on some handy, hands-free functionality -- especially now that she's fully integrated into Windows 10, and Windows 10 is everywhere .


Like Apple's Siri and Google's Google Now, Cortana is an intelligent personal assistant who can help you with everything from launching applications to scheduling appointments. She can even adjust a handful of device settings, such as toggling your Wi-Fi on and off. Microsoft hasn't published a full list of Cortana commands, so we pulled together this unofficial list of all the things you can ask or say to Cortana on Windows 10 devices.


Hey, Cortana


There are a few ways to get Cortana's attention.


• Click or tap thhe Cortana button on the taskbar. If you do not see Cortana on your taskbar, right-click the taskbar and go to Cortana > Show Cortana icon . • If you have 'Hey, Corttana' enabled, simply say "Hey, Cortana," followed by your question.

• If you're using a Windows Phone,, you can press and hold the search button to activate Cortana.


Basics


• Ask abouut the weather. Ex.: "What's the weather like?" or "What will the weather be like in two days?" or "Is it going to rain tomorrow?"


• Launch a program or open a website. Ex.: "Launnch Mozilla Firefox" or "Open <http://CNET.com>;CNET.com."


• Make a phonne call. Ex.: "Call Sarah," or "Call John on speakerphone."


• Hear Cortana read the top news headlines. Ex.: "Show me top headlines."


• Take a note in OneNote. Ex..: "Take a note" or "Note it down."


• Draft an email. Ex.: "Write an email to [contact] saying [message]."


• Draft a text message. Ex.: "Write a text to [contact] saying [message]."


• See texts oor emails from a specific person. Ex.: "Show me emails from Timmy."


• Perform simple calcuulations. Ex.: "What's 35 times 16?" or "What's 23 minus two?"


• Perform converssions. Ex.: "What is five miles in kilometers" or "How many teaspoons in a cup?"


• Define a word. Ex.: "What's the definition of 'table'?" or "Do you know what 'gargantuan' means?"


• Track packages (needs email accouunt configured in the Mail app). Ex.: "Where are my packages?"


Settings


• Turn on/off Wi-Fi.


• Turn on/off Bluettooth.


• Turn on/off Airplane Mode. list ennd


Scheduling/Reminders


"What do I have next week?" or "When is my dentist appointment?"


• Add an appointment tto your calendar. Ex.: "Add dentist appointment to Thursday at 3 p.m." or "Schedule phone call with Lisa tomorrow at 5 a.m."


• Move an apppointment. Ex.: "Move my dentist appointment to Friday."


• Set up reminders based on timee, person, or location. Ex.: "Remind me to call Timmy at 2 p.m." or "Remind me to ask about vacation time when I talk to Jenny" or "Remind me to take out the trash when I get home." Reminders can be one-offs or recurring (e.g., every Wednesday), and location-based reminders require a mobile device.


• Set an alarm. Ex.: "Set an alarm for 9 a.m. or "Wake me up in an hour."


• Show me my alarms.


• Ask about major hollidays. Ex.: "What day is Christmas?" or "When is Labor Day?" list end


Search


• Find pictures, videos, documents, etc., on yyour device from a specific time frame. Ex.: "Find pictures from last week" or "Find documents from May 2015" or "Find videos from yesterday."


• Search files by name. Ex.: "Can you find a document called CNET?" or "Can you find a picture called 'cute dog'?"


• SSee basic search results, such as information about public figures, companies, places, and pop culture in Cortana's windows (without opening a browser window). Ex.: "How tall is Harrison Ford?" or "Who is the CEO of Google?" or "When was the Lincoln Memorial built?" list end


Maps/Navigation


• Where am I?


• Show me driving/ppublic transit/walking directions to [location/landmark].


• How long will it take me to get to [locaation]?


• What is traffic like on the way tto [location]?


• Show me a map of [locationn]. Ex.: "Show me a map of downtown Los Angeles," or "Show me a map of the area around Disneyland." list end


Entertainment


•¢ Look up a sports score. Ex.: "What was the score of the last Detroit Tigers game?"


• Finnd the run time of a movie. Ex.: "How long is Star Wars: Episode I?"


• Control music in thhe Groove app. Ex.: "Play [artist/song/genre/playlist/album]," or "Shuffle the music."


• Limited control over music in other apps. Ex.: Pause song" or "skip track."


• Identify the song that's playing. Ex.: "Whaat is this song?"





















"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain



On Jul 8, 2018, at 6:18 AM, Dennis Brown <<mailto:dennistbrown@comcast.net>dennistbrown@comcast.net> wrote:

David Moore,
Can we get a tutorial on Cortana’s uses? I find your Google Chrome tutorial very helpful.

From: Nino Dagostino
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 7:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: using cortana

When I use Cortana a second window opens up, is there any to prevent that window from opening?

I know the window opens up because when I alt tab after using Cortana I have to close that window.

Any help would be appreciated.
Re: Searching in Outlook for emails

Debby Hill
 

Press F6 and that will get you to the list of email.

 

Debby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of kevin meyers
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 9:14 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Searching in Outlook for emails

 

Hello,

I’m using Windows 10 and Outlook 2018. I used control, shift and F to search for certain emails in the inbox. Once I do the search I cannot get out of the search to see which emails show up. So I hit escape and then nothing shows up. What may I be doing wrong?

 

Kevin Meyers

 
Re: using cortana

Richard Turner
 

 Here is something I found on the web.


The complete list of Cortana commands

(Almost) everything you can say to Cortana.

BYSARAH JACOBSSON PUREWAL 

MAY 6, 2016 8:30 AM PDT


If you don't use Cortana, Microsoft's voice-activated personal assistant, you're missing out on some handy, hands-free functionality -- especially now that she's fully integrated into Windows 10, and  Windows 10 is  everywhere . 


Like Apple's Siri and Google's Google Now, Cortana is an intelligent personal assistant who can help you with everything from launching applications to scheduling appointments. She can even adjust a handful of device settings, such as toggling your Wi-Fi on and off. Microsoft hasn't published a full list of Cortana commands, so we pulled together this unofficial list of all the things you can ask or say to Cortana on Windows 10 devices.


Hey, Cortana


There are a few ways to get Cortana's attention.


• Click or tap the Cortana button on the taskbar. If you do not see Cortana on your taskbar, right-click the taskbar and go to Cortana > Show Cortana icon . • If you have 'Hey, Cortana' enabled, simply say "Hey, Cortana," followed by your question.  

• If you're using a Windows Phone, you can press and hold the search button to activate Cortana. 


Basics


• Ask about the weather. Ex.: "What's the weather like?" or "What will the weather be like in two days?" or "Is it going to rain tomorrow?"


• Launch a program or open a website. Ex.: "Launch Mozilla Firefox" or "Open CNET.com."


• Make a phone call. Ex.: "Call Sarah," or "Call John on speakerphone."


• Hear Cortana read the top news headlines. Ex.: "Show me top headlines." 


• Take a note in OneNote. Ex.: "Take a note" or "Note it down."


• Draft an email. Ex.: "Write an email to [contact] saying [message]." 


• Draft a text message. Ex.: "Write a text to [contact] saying [message]."


• See texts or emails from a specific person. Ex.: "Show me emails from Timmy."


• Perform simple calculations. Ex.: "What's 35 times 16?" or "What's 23 minus two?"


• Perform conversions. Ex.: "What is five miles in kilometers" or "How many teaspoons in a cup?"


• Define a word. Ex.: "What's the definition of 'table'?" or "Do you know what 'gargantuan' means?"


• Track packages (needs email account configured in the Mail app). Ex.: "Where are my packages?"  


Settings


• Turn on/off Wi-Fi.


• Turn on/off Bluetooth.


• Turn on/off Airplane Mode. list end


Scheduling/Reminders


"What do I have next week?" or "When is my dentist appointment?"


• Add an appointment to your calendar. Ex.: "Add dentist appointment to Thursday at 3 p.m." or "Schedule phone call with Lisa tomorrow at 5 a.m."


• Move an appointment. Ex.: "Move my dentist appointment to Friday."


• Set up reminders based on time, person, or location. Ex.: "Remind me to call Timmy at 2 p.m." or "Remind me to ask about vacation time when I talk to Jenny" or "Remind me to take out the trash when I get home." Reminders can be one-offs or recurring (e.g., every Wednesday), and location-based reminders require a mobile device.


• Set an alarm. Ex.: "Set an alarm for 9 a.m." or "Wake me up in an hour."


• Show me my alarms.


• Ask about major holidays. Ex.: "What day is Christmas?" or "When is Labor Day?" list end


Search


• Find pictures, videos, documents, etc., on your device from a specific time frame. Ex.: "Find pictures from last week" or "Find documents from May 2015" or "Find videos from yesterday."


• Search files by name. Ex.: "Can you find a document called CNET?" or "Can you find a picture called 'cute dog'?"


• See basic search results, such as information about public figures, companies, places, and pop culture in Cortana's windows (without opening a browser window). Ex.: "How tall is Harrison Ford?" or "Who is the CEO of Google?" or "When was the Lincoln Memorial built?" list end


Maps/Navigation


• Where am I?


• Show me driving/public transit/walking directions to [location/landmark].


• How long will it take me to get to [location]?


• What is traffic like on the way to [location]?


• Show me a map of [location]. Ex.: "Show me a map of downtown Los Angeles," or "Show me a map of the area around Disneyland." list end


Entertainment


• Look up a sports score. Ex.: "What was the score of the last Detroit Tigers game?"


• Find the run time of a movie. Ex.: "How long is Star Wars: Episode I?"


• Control music in the Groove app. Ex.: "Play [artist/song/genre/playlist/album]," or "Shuffle the music."


• Limited control over music in other apps. Ex.: "Pause song" or "skip track."


• Identify the song that's playing. Ex.: "What is this song?"


 


















"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain




On Jul 8, 2018, at 6:18 AM, Dennis Brown <dennistbrown@...> wrote:

David Moore,
Can we get a tutorial on Cortana’s uses?  I find your Google Chrome tutorial very helpful.
 
From: Nino Dagostino
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 7:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: using cortana
 

When I use Cortana a second window opens up, is there any to prevent that window from opening?

 

I know the window opens up because when I alt tab after using Cortana I have to close that window.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

 
Re: Trouble with "task switching"

paul lemm
 

Hi Dave,

Yep, it was a great match, I'm from the UK and both me and my little boy watched the match yesterday. Looking forward to Wednesday now!

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 08 July 2018 13:57
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Hello Paul:

I was glad to help you clarrify what you wanted to say. As for my weekend,
it has been made that much better, with the win by England over Sweeden, to
progress to the semifinals at the football World Cup in Russia. This
afternoon, if it is available, I will listen to the game on the listen again
link on the BBC web site.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "paul lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"


Hi Dave,

Yep, I agree , the program is never closed therefore when I said it opens
the program as you pointed out this is incorrect. As to your point about
focus and the program being miniaturised whilst not in use and then
maximised when you alt tab to it and focus then being changed to that newly
maximised window, I agree with you completely, , I think that’s what I was
trying to say, but I didn't explain myself well. Anyways thanks for the
reply and hope you're having a good weekend.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Durber
Sent: 08 July 2018 12:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Hello Paul:

When you have several programs open and Windows has given focus to one of
those programs, the other programs which are open, are not minimized. All
the programs you have open and running, are using the same amount of memory,
regardless as to whether one of them has focus or not. What gets minimized,
are the open display windows for the programs which do not have focus. They
appear as miniaturized versions of the maximized program windows. So, by
definition, the fact that these programs are open and running in the
background and their windows are open and minimized, means they are not
closed. When you hold down the ALT key and tap the TAB key, to cycle through
the list of open programs, each miniaturized window is highlighted, and for
a person who is using a screen reader, what gets spoken by a screen reader,
are the text labels for the miniaturized windows of the programs running in
the background. It is the release of the ALT key on one of the other open
programs with its miniaturized window, which instructs Windows to maximize
that programs window and give focus to that program.

sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "paul lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"


Hi,

I still disagree, since the program is minimised you need to open that
window, you could argue open is not the right word and that maximise or
restore that window would be more appropriate. But to shift focus implies
moving the view to something which can be seen elsewhere, although you are
right the program is stored in memory its visual representation is removed
when you open a new program, so no matter how much you move the view or
shift focus you cannot then see this program without first restoring that
program window, it is then only at this point you are able to shift focus to
that window. . However all this being said, honestly I think we could all
spend ages arguing/debating the technical definition of what focus means
and whether it does or does not apply to this situation or not, but this has
moved far out of the realms of anything to do with jaws and I don't wish to
block up the mailing list with non jaws related content. so in the interest
of putting the whole focus topic to bed I will take on board everyone's
points and views and just hope that the original poster has managed to solve
his problem.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: 08 July 2018 01:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

I support Dave on this one. If you're rotating through a list of things
that are open, how could they be opened any further or better by
focusing on them? Answer: they cannot. Once you load data into memory
and give the supervisor (a.k.a. the operating system) a memory address
to pick up the next instruction, also known as running or opening a
program, that's as open as it gets. Rotating through the open programs,
then releasing the TAB key on one of them, does only one thing that's
special--it allows the user--that's you--to interact with said program
via its interface--namely, any input or output channels said program may
have commandeered for that purpose, such as a keyboard, mouse,
microphone, video display, audio interface, printer, or any other driver
software that acts as the go-between between said program and some
unknown piece of hardware. The only thing that gets opened when
releasing the TAB key whilst cycling through a list of running programs
is that program's user window.


On 7/7/2018 5:00 PM, paul lemm wrote:
Hi Dave,

I kind of see your point, but I disagree , I said it cycles through a list
of your open programs, then releasing it opens that program. You said it
shifts focus , I don't mean to be pedantic myself, but that’s not what it
does, for it to be shifting focus all program windows would need to be
open, but from a technical standpoint that’s not the case, since only the
active program window is actually open all other programs are minimised
whilst not in use and to go to one of the minimised programs you need to
open that window . since a lot of people however don't realise that non
active program windows are actually minimised whilst not in use I think if
I'd used that terminology it could have made my answer more confusing,
although I do guess in hindsight I could have said opens that program
window rather than program to be more accurate.

Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Durber
Sent: 07 July 2018 13:43
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Hello Paul:

I do not wish to be pedantic but, ALT+TAB, does not open any program.

If you have several programs open, ALT+TAB, cycles you through the
programs
you have open. When you release both keys, Windows gives focus to that
open
program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "paul lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"


Hi,

Pressing alt and tab cycles you through open programs on your pc releasing
alt tabl then opens that program. Normally. There is an alternative method
for task switching which is ctrl, alt and tab, this sounds more like
what
you are experiencing since releasing the keys will not open the program
but leave you in the task switching window and the tab or cursor keys
just move between the list of running programs. To exit this mode pressing
enter on a program will open that program or pressing escape exits the
task
switching mode. Not sure if you've already tried this but if you haven't
hopefully it solves your problem.

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Onwardbob
Sent: 05 July 2018 04:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Actually there programs open. All I can do is listen to it say "task
switching" and the name of the open programs as I alt tab. I can do
nothing
but switch between programs without any further control. Do do a restart I
have to ask Cortana because none of my controls work.

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 8:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Alt-Tab is the keystroke to switch between open programs.
JAWS says task switching. Apparently it is saying that even when there are
no programs open.
But, Al-Tab has no other function. So, if you are pressing alt-tab, then
that is what is causing that.
Richard




(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jul 4, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:



Yes, but don't know what gets it started.

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 5:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable
views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little
corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain








On Jul 4, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:



Hi; what is this "task switching" thing I keep unexpectedly getting
caught
up in? How does it happen, and how do I get out of it? Currently all I
can
manage is order Cortana to do a restart. Thanks...

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG








Are you hitting Alt -Tab?
What are you doing when it happens?
Richard
Re: using cortana

Dennis Brown
 

David Moore,
Can we get a tutorial on Cortana’s uses?  I find your Google Chrome tutorial very helpful.
 

From: Nino Dagostino
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 7:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: using cortana
 

When I use Cortana a second window opens up, is there any to prevent that window from opening?

 

I know the window opens up because when I alt tab after using Cortana I have to close that window.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

 
Searching in Outlook for emails

kevin meyers
 

Hello,

I’m using Windows 10 and Outlook 2018. I used control, shift and F to search for certain emails in the inbox. Once I do the search I cannot get out of the search to see which emails show up. So I hit escape and then nothing shows up. What may I be doing wrong?

 

Kevin Meyers

 
Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Dave Durber
 

Hello Paul:

I was glad to help you clarrify what you wanted to say. As for my weekend, it has been made that much better, with the win by England over Sweeden, to progress to the semifinals at the football World Cup in Russia. This afternoon, if it is available, I will listen to the game on the listen again link on the BBC web site.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "paul lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"


Hi Dave,

Yep, I agree , the program is never closed therefore when I said it opens the program as you pointed out this is incorrect. As to your point about focus and the program being miniaturised whilst not in use and then maximised when you alt tab to it and focus then being changed to that newly maximised window, I agree with you completely, , I think that’s what I was trying to say, but I didn't explain myself well. Anyways thanks for the reply and hope you're having a good weekend.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 08 July 2018 12:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Hello Paul:

When you have several programs open and Windows has given focus to one of
those programs, the other programs which are open, are not minimized. All
the programs you have open and running, are using the same amount of memory,
regardless as to whether one of them has focus or not. What gets minimized,
are the open display windows for the programs which do not have focus. They
appear as miniaturized versions of the maximized program windows. So, by
definition, the fact that these programs are open and running in the
background and their windows are open and minimized, means they are not
closed. When you hold down the ALT key and tap the TAB key, to cycle through
the list of open programs, each miniaturized window is highlighted, and for
a person who is using a screen reader, what gets spoken by a screen reader,
are the text labels for the miniaturized windows of the programs running in
the background. It is the release of the ALT key on one of the other open
programs with its miniaturized window, which instructs Windows to maximize
that programs window and give focus to that program.

sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "paul lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"


Hi,

I still disagree, since the program is minimised you need to open that
window, you could argue open is not the right word and that maximise or
restore that window would be more appropriate. But to shift focus implies
moving the view to something which can be seen elsewhere, although you are
right the program is stored in memory its visual representation is removed
when you open a new program, so no matter how much you move the view or
shift focus you cannot then see this program without first restoring that
program window, it is then only at this point you are able to shift focus to
that window. . However all this being said, honestly I think we could all
spend ages arguing/debating the technical definition of what focus means
and whether it does or does not apply to this situation or not, but this has
moved far out of the realms of anything to do with jaws and I don't wish to
block up the mailing list with non jaws related content. so in the interest
of putting the whole focus topic to bed I will take on board everyone's
points and views and just hope that the original poster has managed to solve
his problem.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: 08 July 2018 01:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

I support Dave on this one. If you're rotating through a list of things
that are open, how could they be opened any further or better by
focusing on them? Answer: they cannot. Once you load data into memory
and give the supervisor (a.k.a. the operating system) a memory address
to pick up the next instruction, also known as running or opening a
program, that's as open as it gets. Rotating through the open programs,
then releasing the TAB key on one of them, does only one thing that's
special--it allows the user--that's you--to interact with said program
via its interface--namely, any input or output channels said program may
have commandeered for that purpose, such as a keyboard, mouse,
microphone, video display, audio interface, printer, or any other driver
software that acts as the go-between between said program and some
unknown piece of hardware. The only thing that gets opened when
releasing the TAB key whilst cycling through a list of running programs
is that program's user window.


On 7/7/2018 5:00 PM, paul lemm wrote:
Hi Dave,

I kind of see your point, but I disagree , I said it cycles through a list
of your open programs, then releasing it opens that program. You said it
shifts focus , I don't mean to be pedantic myself, but that’s not what it
does, for it to be shifting focus all program windows would need to be
open, but from a technical standpoint that’s not the case, since only the
active program window is actually open all other programs are minimised
whilst not in use and to go to one of the minimised programs you need to
open that window . since a lot of people however don't realise that non
active program windows are actually minimised whilst not in use I think if
I'd used that terminology it could have made my answer more confusing,
although I do guess in hindsight I could have said opens that program
window rather than program to be more accurate.

Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Durber
Sent: 07 July 2018 13:43
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Hello Paul:

I do not wish to be pedantic but, ALT+TAB, does not open any program.

If you have several programs open, ALT+TAB, cycles you through the
programs
you have open. When you release both keys, Windows gives focus to that
open
program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "paul lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"


Hi,

Pressing alt and tab cycles you through open programs on your pc releasing
alt tabl then opens that program. Normally. There is an alternative method
for task switching which is ctrl, alt and tab, this sounds more like
what
you are experiencing since releasing the keys will not open the program
but leave you in the task switching window and the tab or cursor keys
just move between the list of running programs. To exit this mode pressing
enter on a program will open that program or pressing escape exits the
task
switching mode. Not sure if you've already tried this but if you haven't
hopefully it solves your problem.

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Onwardbob
Sent: 05 July 2018 04:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Actually there programs open. All I can do is listen to it say "task
switching" and the name of the open programs as I alt tab. I can do
nothing
but switch between programs without any further control. Do do a restart I
have to ask Cortana because none of my controls work.

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 8:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Alt-Tab is the keystroke to switch between open programs.
JAWS says task switching. Apparently it is saying that even when there are
no programs open.
But, Al-Tab has no other function. So, if you are pressing alt-tab, then
that is what is causing that.
Richard




(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jul 4, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:



Yes, but don't know what gets it started.

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 5:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable
views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little
corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain








On Jul 4, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:



Hi; what is this "task switching" thing I keep unexpectedly getting
caught
up in? How does it happen, and how do I get out of it? Currently all I
can
manage is order Cortana to do a restart. Thanks...

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG








Are you hitting Alt -Tab?
What are you doing when it happens?
Richard
Re: Trouble with "task switching"

paul lemm
 

Hi Dave,

Yep, I agree , the program is never closed therefore when I said it opens the program as you pointed out this is incorrect. As to your point about focus and the program being miniaturised whilst not in use and then maximised when you alt tab to it and focus then being changed to that newly maximised window, I agree with you completely, , I think that’s what I was trying to say, but I didn't explain myself well. Anyways thanks for the reply and hope you're having a good weekend.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 08 July 2018 12:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Hello Paul:

When you have several programs open and Windows has given focus to one of
those programs, the other programs which are open, are not minimized. All
the programs you have open and running, are using the same amount of memory,
regardless as to whether one of them has focus or not. What gets minimized,
are the open display windows for the programs which do not have focus. They
appear as miniaturized versions of the maximized program windows. So, by
definition, the fact that these programs are open and running in the
background and their windows are open and minimized, means they are not
closed. When you hold down the ALT key and tap the TAB key, to cycle through
the list of open programs, each miniaturized window is highlighted, and for
a person who is using a screen reader, what gets spoken by a screen reader,
are the text labels for the miniaturized windows of the programs running in
the background. It is the release of the ALT key on one of the other open
programs with its miniaturized window, which instructs Windows to maximize
that programs window and give focus to that program.

sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "paul lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"


Hi,

I still disagree, since the program is minimised you need to open that
window, you could argue open is not the right word and that maximise or
restore that window would be more appropriate. But to shift focus implies
moving the view to something which can be seen elsewhere, although you are
right the program is stored in memory its visual representation is removed
when you open a new program, so no matter how much you move the view or
shift focus you cannot then see this program without first restoring that
program window, it is then only at this point you are able to shift focus to
that window. . However all this being said, honestly I think we could all
spend ages arguing/debating the technical definition of what focus means
and whether it does or does not apply to this situation or not, but this has
moved far out of the realms of anything to do with jaws and I don't wish to
block up the mailing list with non jaws related content. so in the interest
of putting the whole focus topic to bed I will take on board everyone's
points and views and just hope that the original poster has managed to solve
his problem.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: 08 July 2018 01:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

I support Dave on this one. If you're rotating through a list of things
that are open, how could they be opened any further or better by
focusing on them? Answer: they cannot. Once you load data into memory
and give the supervisor (a.k.a. the operating system) a memory address
to pick up the next instruction, also known as running or opening a
program, that's as open as it gets. Rotating through the open programs,
then releasing the TAB key on one of them, does only one thing that's
special--it allows the user--that's you--to interact with said program
via its interface--namely, any input or output channels said program may
have commandeered for that purpose, such as a keyboard, mouse,
microphone, video display, audio interface, printer, or any other driver
software that acts as the go-between between said program and some
unknown piece of hardware. The only thing that gets opened when
releasing the TAB key whilst cycling through a list of running programs
is that program's user window.


On 7/7/2018 5:00 PM, paul lemm wrote:
Hi Dave,

I kind of see your point, but I disagree , I said it cycles through a list
of your open programs, then releasing it opens that program. You said it
shifts focus , I don't mean to be pedantic myself, but that’s not what it
does, for it to be shifting focus all program windows would need to be
open, but from a technical standpoint that’s not the case, since only the
active program window is actually open all other programs are minimised
whilst not in use and to go to one of the minimised programs you need to
open that window . since a lot of people however don't realise that non
active program windows are actually minimised whilst not in use I think if
I'd used that terminology it could have made my answer more confusing,
although I do guess in hindsight I could have said opens that program
window rather than program to be more accurate.

Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave
Durber
Sent: 07 July 2018 13:43
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Hello Paul:

I do not wish to be pedantic but, ALT+TAB, does not open any program.

If you have several programs open, ALT+TAB, cycles you through the
programs
you have open. When you release both keys, Windows gives focus to that
open
program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "paul lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"


Hi,

Pressing alt and tab cycles you through open programs on your pc releasing
alt tabl then opens that program. Normally. There is an alternative method
for task switching which is ctrl, alt and tab, this sounds more like
what
you are experiencing since releasing the keys will not open the program
but leave you in the task switching window and the tab or cursor keys
just move between the list of running programs. To exit this mode pressing
enter on a program will open that program or pressing escape exits the
task
switching mode. Not sure if you've already tried this but if you haven't
hopefully it solves your problem.

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Onwardbob
Sent: 05 July 2018 04:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Actually there programs open. All I can do is listen to it say "task
switching" and the name of the open programs as I alt tab. I can do
nothing
but switch between programs without any further control. Do do a restart I
have to ask Cortana because none of my controls work.

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 8:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Alt-Tab is the keystroke to switch between open programs.
JAWS says task switching. Apparently it is saying that even when there are
no programs open.
But, Al-Tab has no other function. So, if you are pressing alt-tab, then
that is what is causing that.
Richard




(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jul 4, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:



Yes, but don't know what gets it started.

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 5:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable
views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little
corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain








On Jul 4, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:



Hi; what is this "task switching" thing I keep unexpectedly getting
caught
up in? How does it happen, and how do I get out of it? Currently all I
can
manage is order Cortana to do a restart. Thanks...

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG








Are you hitting Alt -Tab?
What are you doing when it happens?
Richard
using cortana

Nino Dagostino
 

When I use Cortana a second window opens up, is there any to prevent that window from opening?

 

I know the window opens up because when I alt tab after using Cortana I have to close that window.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

 
moderated Re: "Ghost Reading" in JAWS 2018

Ashleigh Piccinino
 


I’ve never heard of that happening

On Jun 26, 2018, at 5:27 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

When having JAWS 2018 read on one webpage, and transitioning to another, I am very often having JAWS continue reading what was on the previous page, and quite a bit of it, rather than picking up with the new material on the new webpage.   I hasten to add that this is not a transition being made while JAWS is in the midst of reading on one page while the next one loads, but after JAWS has already had reading stopped on the currently displayed page prior to initiating the transition to the next.

I can never recall this occurring in older versions of JAWS though, since I don't use JAWS routinely, I might not have encountered the behavior in the past.

What gives, and is there a way to stop this from happening?

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain
Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Dave Durber
 

Hello Paul:

When you have several programs open and Windows has given focus to one of those programs, the other programs which are open, are not minimized. All the programs you have open and running, are using the same amount of memory, regardless as to whether one of them has focus or not. What gets minimized, are the open display windows for the programs which do not have focus. They appear as miniaturized versions of the maximized program windows. So, by definition, the fact that these programs are open and running in the background and their windows are open and minimized, means they are not closed. When you hold down the ALT key and tap the TAB key, to cycle through the list of open programs, each miniaturized window is highlighted, and for a person who is using a screen reader, what gets spoken by a screen reader, are the text labels for the miniaturized windows of the programs running in the background. It is the release of the ALT key on one of the other open programs with its miniaturized window, which instructs Windows to maximize that programs window and give focus to that program.

sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "paul lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"


Hi,

I still disagree, since the program is minimised you need to open that window, you could argue open is not the right word and that maximise or restore that window would be more appropriate. But to shift focus implies moving the view to something which can be seen elsewhere, although you are right the program is stored in memory its visual representation is removed when you open a new program, so no matter how much you move the view or shift focus you cannot then see this program without first restoring that program window, it is then only at this point you are able to shift focus to that window. . However all this being said, honestly I think we could all spend ages arguing/debating the technical definition of what focus means and whether it does or does not apply to this situation or not, but this has moved far out of the realms of anything to do with jaws and I don't wish to block up the mailing list with non jaws related content. so in the interest of putting the whole focus topic to bed I will take on board everyone's points and views and just hope that the original poster has managed to solve his problem.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: 08 July 2018 01:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

I support Dave on this one. If you're rotating through a list of things
that are open, how could they be opened any further or better by
focusing on them? Answer: they cannot. Once you load data into memory
and give the supervisor (a.k.a. the operating system) a memory address
to pick up the next instruction, also known as running or opening a
program, that's as open as it gets. Rotating through the open programs,
then releasing the TAB key on one of them, does only one thing that's
special--it allows the user--that's you--to interact with said program
via its interface--namely, any input or output channels said program may
have commandeered for that purpose, such as a keyboard, mouse,
microphone, video display, audio interface, printer, or any other driver
software that acts as the go-between between said program and some
unknown piece of hardware. The only thing that gets opened when
releasing the TAB key whilst cycling through a list of running programs
is that program's user window.


On 7/7/2018 5:00 PM, paul lemm wrote:
Hi Dave,

I kind of see your point, but I disagree , I said it cycles through a list of your open programs, then releasing it opens that program. You said it shifts focus , I don't mean to be pedantic myself, but that’s not what it does, for it to be shifting focus all program windows would need to be open, but from a technical standpoint that’s not the case, since only the active program window is actually open all other programs are minimised whilst not in use and to go to one of the minimised programs you need to open that window . since a lot of people however don't realise that non active program windows are actually minimised whilst not in use I think if I'd used that terminology it could have made my answer more confusing, although I do guess in hindsight I could have said opens that program window rather than program to be more accurate.

Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 07 July 2018 13:43
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Hello Paul:

I do not wish to be pedantic but, ALT+TAB, does not open any program.

If you have several programs open, ALT+TAB, cycles you through the programs
you have open. When you release both keys, Windows gives focus to that open
program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "paul lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"


Hi,

Pressing alt and tab cycles you through open programs on your pc releasing
alt tabl then opens that program. Normally. There is an alternative method
for task switching which is ctrl, alt and tab, this sounds more like what
you are experiencing since releasing the keys will not open the program
but leave you in the task switching window and the tab or cursor keys
just move between the list of running programs. To exit this mode pressing
enter on a program will open that program or pressing escape exits the task
switching mode. Not sure if you've already tried this but if you haven't
hopefully it solves your problem.

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Onwardbob
Sent: 05 July 2018 04:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Actually there programs open. All I can do is listen to it say "task
switching" and the name of the open programs as I alt tab. I can do nothing
but switch between programs without any further control. Do do a restart I
have to ask Cortana because none of my controls work.

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 8:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Alt-Tab is the keystroke to switch between open programs.
JAWS says task switching. Apparently it is saying that even when there are
no programs open.
But, Al-Tab has no other function. So, if you are pressing alt-tab, then
that is what is causing that.
Richard




(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jul 4, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:



Yes, but don't know what gets it started.

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 5:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable
views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little
corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain








On Jul 4, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:



Hi; what is this "task switching" thing I keep unexpectedly getting
caught
up in? How does it happen, and how do I get out of it? Currently all I
can
manage is order Cortana to do a restart. Thanks...

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG








Are you hitting Alt -Tab?
What are you doing when it happens?
Richard
Re: How do I activate a notification?

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

If I remember right, you press tab to get to single click


On Jul 8, 2018, at 5:45 AM, Kevin Minor <kminor65@...> wrote:

Hi.

 

I’ve looked at the system tray with both JAWS+B and INSERT+F11.  Both of these indicate Office updates are available.  Problem is I don’t know how to activate the update.  When I tried JAWS+B hitting space or enter on it did nothing, and the applications key didn’t do anything either.  When I hit INSERT+F11, I see the office update option there.  When I left double click on it, I get a ding sound and a notification that there are updates for office, and I need to click on it to start it.  I hit WINDOWS+A and I either see collapse something, or set the PC into tablet mode.  How do I activate the update?  It’s not in the list of WINDOWS+A options.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY
moderated Re: "Clickable" WHAT?

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Sorry about that dictation messed up I said draws settings


On Jul 7, 2018, at 1:06 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

What are drawl settings???

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2018 10:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "Clickable" WHAT?

 

Maybe it might be something with his drawl settings him out my check those out


On Jun 26, 2018, at 11:10 PM, HH. Smith Jr. <josham129@...> wrote:

Hey Brian,

 

I visited the said links and I didn’t find or hear  “clickable”

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "Clickable" WHAT?

 

Hello All,

         I want to state before going any further that I did search the forum archive and while there was a lot of material out there complaining about the endless announcement of clickable on webpages, but nothing that seemed to explain why or how to resolve it.  If I missed it and this turns out to be an unwelcome rerun I apologize in advance.

         I am working with JAWS 2018 and the latest version of Firefox.  The pages in question are the individual item pages in the McMaster Carr online catalog (mcmaster.com).  Additional questions, but unrelated to the "clickable" issue, will be coming.

         While there are certain elements on the page, particularly search result narrowing items on the left side of the page, really are "clickable" and that how I activate them when I want to include only results that include the attribute(s) in question, virtually every row and column of a table that gives dimensional or feature information for the item is being announced as "clickable" and it absolutely is not in any meaningful sense of that word.

          Can anyone tell me:

                 1.  What on earth is being indicated by saying "clickable" on text that, when one clicks on it, has absolutely no effect?  It's just plain text.

                 2.  Why anything that isn't clickable in the conventional sense of "you click it and some action will be performed" is being called such?

                 3.  How to get this insane flooding of "clickable" announcements to stop?

An example of the sort of page where you get endless "clickable" announcements from JAWS is for any one of the individual tie-down products on this McMaster Carr webpage:  https://www.mcmaster.com/#cargo-tie-downs/=1dgh56u     I believe it was also occurring on a single product description page, too, e.g., https://www.mcmaster.com/#8840t561/=1dgh5xg where the table on the page is having "clickable" announced on each and every item as one is walked through it.

Thank you in advance for any insights you have to offer.  This is entirely new "weird behavior" territory for me, particularly on the scale at which it's occurring.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

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Re: jfw and anti-virus programs

Nino Dagostino
 

Good morning:

I recommend Windows defender for windows 10

I had other spyware/virus programs on my computer.

Microsoft told me my computer would not update because I had third party tools on my computer.

I uninstalled those tools, Still had to reinstall windows but, Microsoft helped.

I hope that can point you in the right direction.

Have a good day.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2018 11:43 PM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: jfw and anti-virus programs

Hey guys

OK so i just got a new del laptop. Jfw is working great, super fast on this solid state drive. So now i'm just trying to protect from the outside world. What's the best and most accessible virus protection, any pointers?

Cheers,
Jed
An update on my Office 365 update.

Kevin Minor
 

Hi again.

 

I don’t know what I did, but a window came up indicating I should save my work.  I closed all programs and hit the Continue? Button.  All references to the update disappeared, so it means that either I got everything updated, or it’s in limbo.  Oh well, Office is working now so I won’t worry about it.  I’d still like help on how to handle these notifications in the future.

 

Thanks for any ideas.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY
Logitec 780 manual

Nino Dagostino
 

Good morning:

 

Is there any way to download the Logitec keyboard manual.

 

When I try to download the manual and I do a applications key and arrow down to save tartet as it wont let me download the pdf file.

 

I have another question, What is the dongle for?

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Thank you.
How do I activate a notification?

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

 

I’ve looked at the system tray with both JAWS+B and INSERT+F11.  Both of these indicate Office updates are available.  Problem is I don’t know how to activate the update.  When I tried JAWS+B hitting space or enter on it did nothing, and the applications key didn’t do anything either.  When I hit INSERT+F11, I see the office update option there.  When I left double click on it, I get a ding sound and a notification that there are updates for office, and I need to click on it to start it.  I hit WINDOWS+A and I either see collapse something, or set the PC into tablet mode.  How do I activate the update?  It’s not in the list of WINDOWS+A options.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY
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