Date   

How do I activate a notification?

Kevin Minor
 

Hi.

 

I’ve looked at the system tray with both JAWS+B and INSERT+F11.  Both of these indicate Office updates are available.  Problem is I don’t know how to activate the update.  When I tried JAWS+B hitting space or enter on it did nothing, and the applications key didn’t do anything either.  When I hit INSERT+F11, I see the office update option there.  When I left double click on it, I get a ding sound and a notification that there are updates for office, and I need to click on it to start it.  I hit WINDOWS+A and I either see collapse something, or set the PC into tablet mode.  How do I activate the update?  It’s not in the list of WINDOWS+A options.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY


Re: Trouble with "task switching"

paul lemm
 

Hi,

I still disagree, since the program is minimised you need to open that window, you could argue open is not the right word and that maximise or restore that window would be more appropriate. But to shift focus implies moving the view to something which can be seen elsewhere, although you are right the program is stored in memory its visual representation is removed when you open a new program, so no matter how much you move the view or shift focus you cannot then see this program without first restoring that program window, it is then only at this point you are able to shift focus to that window. . However all this being said, honestly I think we could all spend ages arguing/debating the technical definition of what focus means and whether it does or does not apply to this situation or not, but this has moved far out of the realms of anything to do with jaws and I don't wish to block up the mailing list with non jaws related content. so in the interest of putting the whole focus topic to bed I will take on board everyone's points and views and just hope that the original poster has managed to solve his problem.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: 08 July 2018 01:18
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

I support Dave on this one. If you're rotating through a list of things
that are open, how could they be opened any further or better by
focusing on them? Answer: they cannot. Once you load data into memory
and give the supervisor (a.k.a. the operating system) a memory address
to pick up the next instruction, also known as running or opening a
program, that's as open as it gets. Rotating through the open programs,
then releasing the TAB key on one of them, does only one thing that's
special--it allows the user--that's you--to interact with said program
via its interface--namely, any input or output channels said program may
have commandeered for that purpose, such as a keyboard, mouse,
microphone, video display, audio interface, printer, or any other driver
software that acts as the go-between between said program and some
unknown piece of hardware. The only thing that gets opened when
releasing the TAB key whilst cycling through a list of running programs
is that program's user window.


On 7/7/2018 5:00 PM, paul lemm wrote:
Hi Dave,

I kind of see your point, but I disagree , I said it cycles through a list of your open programs, then releasing it opens that program. You said it shifts focus , I don't mean to be pedantic myself, but that’s not what it does, for it to be shifting focus all program windows would need to be open, but from a technical standpoint that’s not the case, since only the active program window is actually open all other programs are minimised whilst not in use and to go to one of the minimised programs you need to open that window . since a lot of people however don't realise that non active program windows are actually minimised whilst not in use I think if I'd used that terminology it could have made my answer more confusing, although I do guess in hindsight I could have said opens that program window rather than program to be more accurate.

Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 07 July 2018 13:43
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Hello Paul:

I do not wish to be pedantic but, ALT+TAB, does not open any program.

If you have several programs open, ALT+TAB, cycles you through the programs
you have open. When you release both keys, Windows gives focus to that open
program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "paul lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"


Hi,

Pressing alt and tab cycles you through open programs on your pc releasing
alt tabl then opens that program. Normally. There is an alternative method
for task switching which is ctrl, alt and tab, this sounds more like what
you are experiencing since releasing the keys will not open the program
but leave you in the task switching window and the tab or cursor keys
just move between the list of running programs. To exit this mode pressing
enter on a program will open that program or pressing escape exits the task
switching mode. Not sure if you've already tried this but if you haven't
hopefully it solves your problem.

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Onwardbob
Sent: 05 July 2018 04:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Actually there programs open. All I can do is listen to it say "task
switching" and the name of the open programs as I alt tab. I can do nothing
but switch between programs without any further control. Do do a restart I
have to ask Cortana because none of my controls work.

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 8:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Alt-Tab is the keystroke to switch between open programs.
JAWS says task switching. Apparently it is saying that even when there are
no programs open.
But, Al-Tab has no other function. So, if you are pressing alt-tab, then
that is what is causing that.
Richard




(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jul 4, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:



Yes, but don't know what gets it started.

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 5:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable
views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little
corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain








On Jul 4, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:



Hi; what is this "task switching" thing I keep unexpectedly getting
caught
up in? How does it happen, and how do I get out of it? Currently all I
can
manage is order Cortana to do a restart. Thanks...

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG








Are you hitting Alt -Tab?
What are you doing when it happens?
Richard
























Re: Queries with JAWS 2018

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

  1. Hello,
  2. I’m not sure about your volume problem. JAWS uses the computer’s system volume but doesn’t, to my knowledge have a volume control itself. Again, use the PC’s system volume control to control the screen reading volume.
  3. I’m not sure about your misspelled word feature. You can use F7 in a Word document and/or Outlook e-mail to find and correct misspelled words. You might want to get more help with this from the group.
  4. JAWS should already be enabled to read other languages when they’re “found” on webpages and/or other things. That is, the screen reader, when it finds a language other than English, should automatically switch to the new language and read it. I think this works with the type of synthesizer that’s installed—you can have Eliquence (main synth for JAWS) use the Spanish voices or any others. However, I’m not sure how to enable automatic language detection, though/seek help from the group or VFO (formerly Freedom Scientific).

Sincerely,

Ashleigh S. Piccinino

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: turab chimthanawala
Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2018 11:51 PM
To: jfw
Subject: Queries with JAWS 2018

 

Hi all,
I recently installed JAWS 2018 and have the following queries..
1. Is there some internal volume in JAWS as my Jaws outputs a very low
volume even when the speaker of the laptop is at 80%
. The speaker has no issue as songs are being played at a much lower volume.
2. The Indian screen reader viz. Non visual display access indicates
when a word is wrongly spelt. How can I enable a similar feature in
Jaws?
3. How can I make Jaws read other languages?
Eagerly await suggestions.
Thanking you
Best
Turab

 

  1.  


Queries with JAWS 2018

turab chimthanawala
 

Hi all,
I recently installed JAWS 2018 and have the following queries..
1. Is there some internal volume in JAWS as my Jaws outputs a very low
volume even when the speaker of the laptop is at 80%
. The speaker has no issue as songs are being played at a much lower volume.
2. The Indian screen reader viz. Non visual display access indicates
when a word is wrongly spelt. How can I enable a similar feature in
Jaws?
3. How can I make Jaws read other languages?
Eagerly await suggestions.
Thanking you
Best
Turab


Re: jfw and anti-virus programs

 

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 08:43 pm, Jed Barton wrote:
What's the best and most accessible virus protection, any pointers?
Windows Defender, as implemented under Windows 10, is an excellent antivirus (and, in actuality, a security suite) and is accessible.

I have consistently recommending that my clients (all my clients) stick with Windows Defender rather than going with any 3rd party option.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


jfw and anti-virus programs

Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
 

Hey guys

OK so i just got a new del laptop. Jfw is working great, super fast
on this solid state drive. So now i'm just trying to protect from the
outside world. What's the best and most accessible virus protection,
any pointers?

Cheers,
Jed


Re: Trouble with "task switching"

 

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 07:34 pm, Don Walls wrote:
It would be helpful if you put your cursor at the start so your messages would be at the top of the text.  Thanks.
It would not be helpful since the top-quoted material gives the direct frame of reference for what I'm writing.  I am doing this by intent, because in a topic such as this one virtually no one is going to be able to figure out what a particular message is in response to.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Don Walls
 

Brian, your messages are coming through at the bottom of the messages to which you reply.  It would be helpful if you put your cursor at the start so your messages would be at the top of the text.  Thanks.
 
Don
 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2018 6:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"
 
On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 05:43 am, Dave Durber wrote:
If you have several programs open, ALT+TAB, cycles you through the programs you have open. When you release both keys, Windows gives focus to that open program.
Oops, somewhere in the 90+ percent range correct, near to 100.  All you have to release is the ALT.  So long as ALT is held down you can keep tabbing between the selection list of the open program windows to your heart's content and you're releasing TAB with each jump.  It's the release of the ALT key that actually throws focus on the actual program window for the program that has focus in the review list.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Steve Matzura
 

Exactly.


On 7/7/2018 9:01 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 05:32 pm, Steve Matzura wrote:
The only thing that gets opened when releasing the TAB key whilst cycling through a list of running programs is that program's user window.
Which has been called giving focus to a program window since Windows first began.  And, if one wishes to be really picky, the window isn't opened as it is, in actuality, already open.  Focus is thrown on to, or shifted to, that already open window.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain



Re: Trouble with "task switching"

 

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 05:43 am, Dave Durber wrote:
If you have several programs open, ALT+TAB, cycles you through the programs you have open. When you release both keys, Windows gives focus to that open program.
Oops, somewhere in the 90+ percent range correct, near to 100.  All you have to release is the ALT.  So long as ALT is held down you can keep tabbing between the selection list of the open program windows to your heart's content and you're releasing TAB with each jump.  It's the release of the ALT key that actually throws focus on the actual program window for the program that has focus in the review list.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


Re: Trouble with "task switching"

 

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 05:43 am, Dave Durber wrote:
ALT+TAB, does not open any program.

If you have several programs open, ALT+TAB, cycles you through the programs you have open. When you release both keys, Windows gives focus to that open program.
This is 100% correct, and using the terminology that Microsoft has used with regard to which window in a collection has primacy and control, the window that has focus, since Windows was introduced.

Back to my offer, though, if anyone wants to e-mail me a screen shot of what's going on when they get trapped, which is easy to capture on Windows 10 before you restart if that's what you've been doing, I can check it out and try to determine how the state shown came to be.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


Re: Trouble with "task switching"

 

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 05:32 pm, Steve Matzura wrote:
The only thing that gets opened when releasing the TAB key whilst cycling through a list of running programs is that program's user window.
Which has been called giving focus to a program window since Windows first began.  And, if one wishes to be really picky, the window isn't opened as it is, in actuality, already open.  Focus is thrown on to, or shifted to, that already open window.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


Re: Trouble with "task switching"

 

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 02:00 pm, paul lemm wrote:
I said it cycles through a list of your open programs, then releasing it opens that program. You said it shifts focus , I don't mean to be pedantic myself, but that’s not what it does
And the term "shift focus" is the correct term.  A program has to be open already and ALT+TAB cycles through your open programs and releasing the ALT shifts focus to the window that is selected during the cycling.

If anyone wishes me to try to assist in terms of determining exactly what's happening, because there are several possibilities, please hit WinKey+PrtSc before you restart to get yourself unstuck.  That should have placed a screen shot of your desktop in whatever state it is in into your Pictures library in a folder named Screenshots in PNG format.  If you happen to have others from earlier times, the sequence is to add parenthesis, number, close parentheis to the basic name Screenshot.png, e.g., Screenshot(9).png.

E-mail me the image and I can probably tell you how you got into the state you're in.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Steve Matzura
 

I support Dave on this one. If you're rotating through a list of things that are open, how could they be opened any further or better by focusing on them? Answer: they cannot. Once you load data into memory and give the supervisor (a.k.a. the operating system) a memory address to pick up the next instruction, also known as running or opening a program, that's as open as it gets. Rotating through the open programs, then releasing the TAB key on one of them, does only one thing that's special--it allows the user--that's you--to interact with said program via its interface--namely, any input or output channels said program may have commandeered for that purpose, such as a keyboard, mouse, microphone, video display, audio interface, printer, or any other driver software that acts as the go-between between said program and some unknown piece of hardware. The only thing that gets opened when releasing the TAB key whilst cycling through a list of running programs is that program's user window.

On 7/7/2018 5:00 PM, paul lemm wrote:
Hi Dave,

I kind of see your point, but I disagree , I said it cycles through a list of your open programs, then releasing it opens that program. You said it shifts focus , I don't mean to be pedantic myself, but that’s not what it does, for it to be shifting focus all program windows would need to be open, but from a technical standpoint that’s not the case, since only the active program window is actually open all other programs are minimised whilst not in use and to go to one of the minimised programs you need to open that window . since a lot of people however don't realise that non active program windows are actually minimised whilst not in use I think if I'd used that terminology it could have made my answer more confusing, although I do guess in hindsight I could have said opens that program window rather than program to be more accurate.

Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 07 July 2018 13:43
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Hello Paul:

I do not wish to be pedantic but, ALT+TAB, does not open any program.

If you have several programs open, ALT+TAB, cycles you through the programs
you have open. When you release both keys, Windows gives focus to that open
program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "paul lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"


Hi,

Pressing alt and tab cycles you through open programs on your pc releasing
alt tabl then opens that program. Normally. There is an alternative method
for task switching which is ctrl, alt and tab, this sounds more like what
you are experiencing since releasing the keys will not open the program
but leave you in the task switching window and the tab or cursor keys
just move between the list of running programs. To exit this mode pressing
enter on a program will open that program or pressing escape exits the task
switching mode. Not sure if you've already tried this but if you haven't
hopefully it solves your problem.

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Onwardbob
Sent: 05 July 2018 04:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Actually there programs open. All I can do is listen to it say "task
switching" and the name of the open programs as I alt tab. I can do nothing
but switch between programs without any further control. Do do a restart I
have to ask Cortana because none of my controls work.

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 8:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Alt-Tab is the keystroke to switch between open programs.
JAWS says task switching. Apparently it is saying that even when there are
no programs open.
But, Al-Tab has no other function. So, if you are pressing alt-tab, then
that is what is causing that.
Richard




(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jul 4, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:



Yes, but don't know what gets it started.

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 5:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable
views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little
corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain








On Jul 4, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:



Hi; what is this "task switching" thing I keep unexpectedly getting
caught
up in? How does it happen, and how do I get out of it? Currently all I
can
manage is order Cortana to do a restart. Thanks...

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG








Are you hitting Alt -Tab?
What are you doing when it happens?
Richard























Re: Trouble with "task switching"

paul lemm
 

Hi Dave,

I kind of see your point, but I disagree , I said it cycles through a list of your open programs, then releasing it opens that program. You said it shifts focus , I don't mean to be pedantic myself, but that’s not what it does, for it to be shifting focus all program windows would need to be open, but from a technical standpoint that’s not the case, since only the active program window is actually open all other programs are minimised whilst not in use and to go to one of the minimised programs you need to open that window . since a lot of people however don't realise that non active program windows are actually minimised whilst not in use I think if I'd used that terminology it could have made my answer more confusing, although I do guess in hindsight I could have said opens that program window rather than program to be more accurate.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 07 July 2018 13:43
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Hello Paul:

I do not wish to be pedantic but, ALT+TAB, does not open any program.

If you have several programs open, ALT+TAB, cycles you through the programs
you have open. When you release both keys, Windows gives focus to that open
program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "paul lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"


Hi,

Pressing alt and tab cycles you through open programs on your pc releasing
alt tabl then opens that program. Normally. There is an alternative method
for task switching which is ctrl, alt and tab, this sounds more like what
you are experiencing since releasing the keys will not open the program
but leave you in the task switching window and the tab or cursor keys
just move between the list of running programs. To exit this mode pressing
enter on a program will open that program or pressing escape exits the task
switching mode. Not sure if you've already tried this but if you haven't
hopefully it solves your problem.

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Onwardbob
Sent: 05 July 2018 04:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Actually there programs open. All I can do is listen to it say "task
switching" and the name of the open programs as I alt tab. I can do nothing
but switch between programs without any further control. Do do a restart I
have to ask Cortana because none of my controls work.

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 8:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"

Alt-Tab is the keystroke to switch between open programs.
JAWS says task switching. Apparently it is saying that even when there are
no programs open.
But, Al-Tab has no other function. So, if you are pressing alt-tab, then
that is what is causing that.
Richard




(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jul 4, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:



Yes, but don't know what gets it started.

BOB SOUTAR…ONWARD THRU THE FOG


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 5:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble with "task switching"



"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable
views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little
corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Mark Twain








On Jul 4, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> wrote:



Hi; what is this "task switching" thing I keep unexpectedly getting
caught
up in? How does it happen, and how do I get out of it? Currently all I
can
manage is order Cortana to do a restart. Thanks...

BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG








Are you hitting Alt -Tab?
What are you doing when it happens?
Richard


moderated Re: "Clickable" WHAT?

 

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 11:06 am, Bill White wrote:
What are drawl settings???
Maybe they make the voice sound Southern.  ;-)
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: "Clickable" WHAT?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

What are drawl settings???

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2018 10:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: "Clickable" WHAT?

 

Maybe it might be something with his drawl settings him out my check those out


On Jun 26, 2018, at 11:10 PM, HH. Smith Jr. <josham129@...> wrote:

Hey Brian,

 

I visited the said links and I didn’t find or hear  “clickable”

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "Clickable" WHAT?

 

Hello All,

         I want to state before going any further that I did search the forum archive and while there was a lot of material out there complaining about the endless announcement of clickable on webpages, but nothing that seemed to explain why or how to resolve it.  If I missed it and this turns out to be an unwelcome rerun I apologize in advance.

         I am working with JAWS 2018 and the latest version of Firefox.  The pages in question are the individual item pages in the McMaster Carr online catalog (mcmaster.com).  Additional questions, but unrelated to the "clickable" issue, will be coming.

         While there are certain elements on the page, particularly search result narrowing items on the left side of the page, really are "clickable" and that how I activate them when I want to include only results that include the attribute(s) in question, virtually every row and column of a table that gives dimensional or feature information for the item is being announced as "clickable" and it absolutely is not in any meaningful sense of that word.

          Can anyone tell me:

                 1.  What on earth is being indicated by saying "clickable" on text that, when one clicks on it, has absolutely no effect?  It's just plain text.

                 2.  Why anything that isn't clickable in the conventional sense of "you click it and some action will be performed" is being called such?

                 3.  How to get this insane flooding of "clickable" announcements to stop?

An example of the sort of page where you get endless "clickable" announcements from JAWS is for any one of the individual tie-down products on this McMaster Carr webpage:  https://www.mcmaster.com/#cargo-tie-downs/=1dgh56u     I believe it was also occurring on a single product description page, too, e.g., https://www.mcmaster.com/#8840t561/=1dgh5xg where the table on the page is having "clickable" announced on each and every item as one is walked through it.

Thank you in advance for any insights you have to offer.  This is entirely new "weird behavior" territory for me, particularly on the scale at which it's occurring.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


Re: Search for emails in outlook 2016

ely.r@...
 

Jim,
Thanks for that. Way simpler than the new "improved" method.
Rick

Dr. Rick Ely
TVI, Vision Consultant
451 Rocky Hill Road
Florence, MA 01062
&413() 727-3038

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Fettgather
Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2018 1:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Search for emails in outlook 2016

Although not as streamlined, I can still use Control Shift F in Outlook 2016 to search using various criteria, perform the search, and press F6 to show the search results.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of ely.r@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2018 10:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Search for emails in outlook 2016

Glad or should I say, sad, to see you have the same issue. This is true for other screen readers as well. I have some vision and combine Windows Magnifier with a screen reader. If I figure out a keyboard solution, I'll post it. Honestly, I use Office 365 and the change in that search feature has been a recent update to Outlook. I have searched for ways to revert to the simple form but have had no luck. I will post to another screen reader list to see if there are proffered key approaches or other solutions.
Rick

Dr. Rick Ely
TVI, Vision Consultant
451 Rocky Hill Road
Florence, MA 01062
&413() 727-3038

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2018 10:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Search for emails in outlook 2016

Hello: I am using Windows 10, Outlook 2016 and the newest version of Jaws 2018. Up until a week ago, if I was in outlook and hit control+E, and typed in a search term or email, the items in the search requested would show up and I could simply look at those respective emails. Recently, however, when I type control+e, I see the following if I tab across: Search query; Clos search button; menu current mailbox submenu; by date button (to activate press space bar); newest on top, (to activate press space bar); and sometimes I see: all (check box checked).
My sighted assistant says that the search terms are showing up and being found, however, jaws isn't showing me them. Any suggestions?
Thanks.


moderated Re: Headings List Behaving Erratically

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

You might want to contact via phone or the Microsoft disability helpdesk they might be able to helpk


On Jun 27, 2018, at 10:28 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Nermin,

            My issue is not that the headings list, per se, is acting erratically - as they do all show - but what happens after you choose one to move to is.   Since all of the level 2 headings in an Amazon search correspond to the click-through text links for a specific product returned from the search, I expect that if I move to one of those headings, then hit either Enter (if I wish to overlay my search results in the current tab, then use backspace to return to them) or CTRL+Enter (to open in a separate tab) that the link will consistently open based on which command I issued.   It does not.  Sometimes the link opens, sometimes I get nothing.

            This makes no sense to me as I can see said headings/links and if I use "the sighted way" and point and click each and every one of them will open, but they're not doing that under JAWS.

             I can't decide if I'm doing something wrong or the web page is somehow coded peculiarly or if there's a bug of some sort in JAWS 2018.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


problems with monster is there is no way to specify jobs that you're searching for

David Ingram
 

Hi list members, i'd like to know if anyone has found a way to specify not only job title, but also job search results? For some reason, I've been unable to not only specify job title, but I've had a problem with specifying job search results. Is there something different that I need to do in order to get the proper job titles, as well as the proper job search results. Thank you for any information that you might have concerning these questions.