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moderated The problem that i have with monster is that i can't seem to get the job search results.

David Ingram
 

Hi, list members, i'd like to know if anyone else has had the problem while doing a job search for a specific job that you get results for jobs that you didn't search for. I'm continuing to have such a problem when it comes to using monster.com. As an example, when I type in music producer as a job title, I get things like the following: teacher, sales associate, is there something that I need to do in order to specify my job title or should I put quotes around the words or something else? I'm running out of time trying to get the proper results for the job titles that I search for. I would appreciate any information that anyone might have concerning this problem that i'm having.


moderated Re: Using Monster and Indeed

kevin meyers
 

I backed out of Monster.com and started over completely. This time it worked
with shift F10. Thanks!

Kevin Meyers

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Monster and Indeed

try using insert+f7 to get a list of the links on the page. arrow to the one
you want and press enter to activate the link.

you could also try moving to the first character of the link, press the
application key or shift+f10, and if the first choice is open, press enter
to activate it.

-------- Original Message --------
From: kevin meyers [mailto:kman2020@wi.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, Jun 28, 2018 11:30 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using Monster and Indeed

Hello,



Prior to upgrading to Windows10 and Jaws2018 I had no problem using
Monster.com and Indeed.com. Now I can get a list of specific jobs. Yet when
I press the enter key or space bar on the link for a particular job nothing
happens. The list of jobs still exist and I cannot activate any of the links
to a job description. What could be causing this problem? Other sites don't
have this problem.



Cheers,



Kevin Meyers


moderated Re: Using Monster and Indeed

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Do you still have a prior version of JAWS around that you could try it with? Have you tried all browsers?

Pam


________________________________________
From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of kevin meyers [kman2020@wi.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 3:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Monster and Indeed

I tried that on both sites. Indeed didn't allow me to use insert F7. Monster
did and I still couldn't get into any of the links for a job. I even tried
putting my cursor on the first character and pressing the application key. I
just get a menu that has no choice to view a job. Any other thoughts? Is it
some setting on Internet I need to set? What about some setting in Jaws?

Kevin Meyers

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Monster and Indeed

try using insert+f7 to get a list of the links on the page. arrow to the one
you want and press enter to activate the link.

you could also try moving to the first character of the link, press the
application key or shift+f10, and if the first choice is open, press enter
to activate it.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Kevin Meyers [mailto:kman2020@wi.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, Jun 28, 2018 11:30 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using Monster and Indeed

Hello,



Prior to upgrading to Windows10 and Jaws2018 I had no problem using
Monster.com and Indeed.com. Now I can get a list of specific jobs. Yet when
I press the enter key or space bar on the link for a particular job nothing
happens. The list of jobs still exist and I cannot activate any of the links
to a job description. What could be causing this problem? Other sites don't
have this problem.



Cheers,



Kevin Meyers


moderated Re: Using Monster and Indeed

kevin meyers
 

I tried that on both sites. Indeed didn't allow me to use insert F7. Monster
did and I still couldn't get into any of the links for a job. I even tried
putting my cursor on the first character and pressing the application key. I
just get a menu that has no choice to view a job. Any other thoughts? Is it
some setting on Internet I need to set? What about some setting in Jaws?

Kevin Meyers

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 1:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Monster and Indeed

try using insert+f7 to get a list of the links on the page. arrow to the one
you want and press enter to activate the link.

you could also try moving to the first character of the link, press the
application key or shift+f10, and if the first choice is open, press enter
to activate it.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Kevin Meyers [mailto:kman2020@wi.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, Jun 28, 2018 11:30 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using Monster and Indeed

Hello,



Prior to upgrading to Windows10 and Jaws2018 I had no problem using
Monster.com and Indeed.com. Now I can get a list of specific jobs. Yet when
I press the enter key or space bar on the link for a particular job nothing
happens. The list of jobs still exist and I cannot activate any of the links
to a job description. What could be causing this problem? Other sites don't
have this problem.



Cheers,



Kevin Meyers


moderated Anyone have information on Confluence?

Wideman, Donna J
 

Confluence is a software use to create, store, and share information.

I have found a tool called Unstoppable but am having a difficult time working it.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Donna

 


moderated Re: Using Monster and Indeed

Mario
 

try using insert+f7 to get a list of the links on the page. arrow to the
one you want and press enter to activate the link.

you could also try moving to the first character of the link, press the
application key or shift+f10, and if the first choice is open, press
enter to activate it.

-------- Original Message --------
From: kevin meyers [mailto:kman2020@wi.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, Jun 28, 2018 11:30 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Using Monster and Indeed

Hello,



Prior to upgrading to Windows10 and Jaws2018 I had no problem using
Monster.com and Indeed.com. Now I can get a list of specific jobs. Yet when
I press the enter key or space bar on the link for a particular job nothing
happens. The list of jobs still exist and I cannot activate any of the links
to a job description. What could be causing this problem? Other sites don't
have this problem.



Cheers,



Kevin Meyers


moderated Using Monster and Indeed

kevin meyers
 

Hello,

 

Prior to upgrading to Windows10 and Jaws2018 I had no problem using Monster.com and Indeed.com. Now I can get a list of specific jobs. Yet when I press the enter key or space bar on the link for a particular job nothing happens. The list of jobs still exist and I cannot activate any of the links to a job description. What could be causing this problem? Other sites don’t have this problem.

 

Cheers,

 

Kevin Meyers

 


moderated Re: Microsfot Exchange Account and Outlook 2016

Michael Mote
 

Hi there Joe!  Do you know if the exchange account is linked to Office 365?  If not, you may have to set up some of the account settings manually.  You may want to inquire about incoming and outgoing server settings to see if you can get those to put into your Outlook.  Just a thought.  Several years ago, we had this sort of exchange account at work, and it was tough at times to configure accounts in Outlook.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joe DiNero
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 5:57 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Microsfot Exchange Account and Outlook 2016

 

Good Evening Folks

 

Not exactly a JFW question. However, I am hoping someone can give a little advice I just got a new part time position and the email address is a Microsoft Exchange account and the online interface is a nightmare with JFW. Is there some sort of secret with setting them up in Outlook 2016? I used the new account wizard in Control Panel and it says it was successful however, I am not seeing any of the email. Any clues?

 

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moderated Re: "Clickable" WHAT?

 

Mario,

           It's beyond annoying, it's misleading.  I wonder if some of this isn't the result of a setting used in the webpage editors that folks are using.  Very few people code HTML from scratch these days and all of us here know that for any complex piece of software there are settings that we have never visited and probably never will.

           That's my guess, as I can't imagine making the conscious decision to make an element clickable when actually clicking on it accomplishes nothing.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: "Clickable" WHAT?

Mario
 

I often wonder what function those elements that are "clickable" that
don't do anything really provide? I wish webmasters/authors would stop
using "clickable" element, or properly use them if they really need to
use it for their website. it's very annoying to have to hear clickable
announced almost through out a website when they don't do anything.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Jun 27, 2018 8:15 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: "Clickable" WHAT?

Diane,

           I appreciate your having taken the time to offer these
suggestions.

           What I want to make clear is that, since I can see the
objects (very often just plain text) being announced as "Clickable," and
have tried actually clicking on them to see if that does anything, I am
absolutely certain that most of the "Clickable" announcements are being
made about things that are not, in actuality, clickable.  Or, I guess I
should say you can click on them but doing so has no effect whatsoever. 
It's quite bizarre and I'd love to know the whats & whys of the
clickable announcement.  As it stands it makes absolutely no functional
sense in most cases where it occurs.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

    Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and
many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome,
charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in
one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

        ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: Using the outlook web interface with jaws

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi Sieghard,

I was wondering why that would be the case, and I don’t exactly know why you would have such a good experience on the Outlook web interface. I know it wasn’t at all accessible for me until I changed to the light version. If memory serves, I had a difficult time going in to the web version and changing to the light version, so I first changed to the light version by changing the end of the URL to layout=Light as I discussed previously. Once I did this I was able to go into the settings and make the change there. Another way to do this is to change the URL and then create a shortcut on the desktop pointing to the URL ending with “layout=light”.

I wonder if it has anything to do with the version of Office 365 being used? I think there are builds that get updated on a monthly basis and others that get updated less frequently?

Whatever the case, I’m glad you are able to access the web version of Outlook without changing anything!

Cheers,

Russell

On Jun 27, 2018, at 7:36 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:

Hi Russell,

Do you know why am I getting such a different experience? I don't have any option for a light interface for Office 365, but the Outlook web app which I get is super accessible, uncluttered and easy to use.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 10:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using the outlook web interface with jaws

Hi Kim,

No worries… glad it worked for you. I had the same struggles last June when we switched to Outlook as part of Office 365 at work.

Cheers,

Russell

On Jun 27, 2018, at 5:20 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com> wrote:

Russell,

You are the best! Thank you so much. I used the "manual" method
because, well, that's just how I roll. <g>

The light layout is so much better, so much simpler. What a relief.

Thanks again for saving me from another headache.

Kinm

On 6/26/18, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Kimberly,

Here are instructions for changing Outlook on the web to a light
version that is more accessible.

If the following websites instructions don’t work by changing it in
the settings, then try the manual directions below.

Proper way, via settings:
https://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=34411
<https://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=34411>;

Manual method:
After signing in by whatever method (probably
outlook.yourinstitution.com <http://outlook.yourinstitution.com/>;),
look at the address bar, it will probably start with something like the following:
https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?blaughblaughblaugh
<https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?blaughblaughblaugh>;
Just go and delete the blaughblaughblaugh part, and put in
layout=light, so the new address would be
https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?layout=light
<https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?layout=light>;

Make sure not to delete the question mark (?) in the URL.

Hope this helps,

Russell
On Jun 26, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Kimber Gardner
<kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi all,

Hoping someone can give me some help. In my office there is an
ongoing email issue that prevents us from sending or receiving email
except through the web interface of outlook.

The interface looks like it should be accessible enough, but for
some reason I am finding it incredibly confusing. If anyone has some
familiarity with the outlook interface and can give me some tips I
would very much appreciate the help. Our helpdesk folks have no idea
how soon the problems will be fixed so there's no telling how long I
will be trapped in outlook web mail hell.

Thanks in advance

--
Kimberly






--
Kimberly








moderated Re: Using the outlook web interface with jaws

 

Hi Russell,

Do you know why am I getting such a different experience? I don't have any option for a light interface for Office 365, but the Outlook web app which I get is super accessible, uncluttered and easy to use.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 10:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using the outlook web interface with jaws

Hi Kim,

No worries… glad it worked for you. I had the same struggles last June when we switched to Outlook as part of Office 365 at work.

Cheers,

Russell

On Jun 27, 2018, at 5:20 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com> wrote:

Russell,

You are the best! Thank you so much. I used the "manual" method
because, well, that's just how I roll. <g>

The light layout is so much better, so much simpler. What a relief.

Thanks again for saving me from another headache.

Kinm

On 6/26/18, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Kimberly,

Here are instructions for changing Outlook on the web to a light
version that is more accessible.

If the following websites instructions don’t work by changing it in
the settings, then try the manual directions below.

Proper way, via settings:
https://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=34411
<https://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=34411>;

Manual method:
After signing in by whatever method (probably
outlook.yourinstitution.com <http://outlook.yourinstitution.com/>;),
look at the address bar, it will probably start with something like the following:
https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?blaughblaughblaugh
<https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?blaughblaughblaugh>;
Just go and delete the blaughblaughblaugh part, and put in
layout=light, so the new address would be
https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?layout=light
<https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?layout=light>;

Make sure not to delete the question mark (?) in the URL.

Hope this helps,

Russell
On Jun 26, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Kimber Gardner
<kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi all,

Hoping someone can give me some help. In my office there is an
ongoing email issue that prevents us from sending or receiving email
except through the web interface of outlook.

The interface looks like it should be accessible enough, but for
some reason I am finding it incredibly confusing. If anyone has some
familiarity with the outlook interface and can give me some tips I
would very much appreciate the help. Our helpdesk folks have no idea
how soon the problems will be fixed so there's no telling how long I
will be trapped in outlook web mail hell.

Thanks in advance

--
Kimberly






--
Kimberly



moderated Re: "Clickable" WHAT?

 

Diane,

           I appreciate your having taken the time to offer these suggestions.

           What I want to make clear is that, since I can see the objects (very often just plain text) being announced as "Clickable," and have tried actually clicking on them to see if that does anything, I am absolutely certain that most of the "Clickable" announcements are being made about things that are not, in actuality, clickable.  Or, I guess I should say you can click on them but doing so has no effect whatsoever.  It's quite bizarre and I'd love to know the whats & whys of the clickable announcement.  As it stands it makes absolutely no functional sense in most cases where it occurs.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: Microsfot Exchange Account and Outlook 2016

Mario
 

I recently went thru this, but I'm not exactly sure if it applies to
your situation:

if you're setting up an Outlook.com account with Outlook 2016, there is
a secure screen or U A C dialog that internally pops up that JAWS or any
other screen reader won't be able to access. you will need someone
sighted to click the continue or yes button to complete the connection.
pressing alt+c I think for the secure screen or alt+y for the yes button
for the UAC won't work. this problem was supposed to be corrected by
Microsoft, but I guess they didn't. maybe Microsoft's Disability Answer
Desk (800-936-5900) might be able to help you if you want them to
remotely access your computer and click the respective buttons. or they
might even help to resolve your issue if it is more involved than what I
offered.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Joe DiNero [mailto:joedinero68@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, Jun 27, 2018 5:57 PM EST
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Microsfot Exchange Account and Outlook 2016

Good Evening Folks



Not exactly a JFW question. However, I am hoping someone can give a little
advice I just got a new part time position and the email address is a
Microsoft Exchange account and the online interface is a nightmare with JFW.
Is there some sort of secret with setting them up in Outlook 2016? I used
the new account wizard in Control Panel and it says it was successful
however, I am not seeing any of the email. Any clues?


moderated Re: "Clickable" WHAT?

Leedy Diane Bomar
 

Is it possible that “clicking” on an item in the list opens an image?
What happens with a right click?
Also, I really apppreciate the clear detail and links in your message.
What happens with other browsers?
Have you looked at the source code or changed the temporary JAWS settings, (JAWS-V), Quick Settings, Text links options?
I am sure that others on this list know more about this, than I, but, just wanted to throw out those suggestions.
HTH,
Diane Bomar


moderated Microsfot Exchange Account and Outlook 2016

Joe DiNero
 

Good Evening Folks

 

Not exactly a JFW question. However, I am hoping someone can give a little advice I just got a new part time position and the email address is a Microsoft Exchange account and the online interface is a nightmare with JFW. Is there some sort of secret with setting them up in Outlook 2016? I used the new account wizard in Control Panel and it says it was successful however, I am not seeing any of the email. Any clues?


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moderated Re: Headings List Behaving Erratically

Bill White
 

Yes. Either move a couple of characters forward with the Right Arrow, or, alternatively, Arrow up once, then TAB down to the link again to focus JAWS on the link.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 10:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Headings List Behaving Erratically

 

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 09:06 am, Bill White wrote:

I think what you need to do is to move a couple of characters to the right when you go to one of these inconsistent headings.

And am I correct in assuming that just right arrowing a couple of times after using the "Move to heading" option from the headings list is what I should be doing?   I just want to be absolutely certain.

I will definitely give this a try when we get the "won't open the link when we've landed on a heading that is a link as well" syndrome.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated just curious

Curt Taubert
 

Are there any scrips for instant bird?

--
Have a blessed day. Curt


moderated Re: Headings List Behaving Erratically

 

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 09:28 am, Nermin wrote:
That’s what blindys have to suffer. I’m used to that on the web though...
I am not foolish enough to even begin to believe that I've "encountered it all" with regard to the web and screen reader use, not even close to it, but this is the first time I've encountered this behavior with regard to using headings as what I call "click landmarks" that give you the descriptive information you need to decide whether a click is worth it.  Using INS+F6 on newspaper webpages, search engine results pages, product search results pages, and the list goes on allows you to eliminate having to look at a proverbial sea of garbage and come down to a  "pond of content with a few bits of floating detritus" in comparison.

It's just infuriating to me, and I can only begin to scratch the surface of how much more infuriating it must be to those who are encountering this sort of thing all the time.  What's even worse, at least from my perspective (and as someone sighted that's likely to be different than yours), is that it's often times well-nigh impossible to know if what one is encountering is a screen reader bug, a webpage coding bug, or something else entirely without digging way under the hood.  In my case, if I even have that luxury, it really disrupts the flow of my student learning what I'm hoping to teach them.  And before anyone says it, yes, I do know it teaches them the reality of how this technology sometimes "doesn't work" and that they need to be fluid about thinking about workarounds.  I try to teach that, too, but I prefer that to occur after the more basic skills of how one should be able to do things in "the typical case" have been firmly established.   Lately, with this student, given what he needs to be able to access, that seems to be well-nigh impossible to accomplish in practice.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: Using the outlook web interface with jaws

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi Kim,

No worries… glad it worked for you. I had the same struggles last June when we switched to Outlook as part of Office 365 at work.

Cheers,

Russell

On Jun 27, 2018, at 5:20 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com> wrote:

Russell,

You are the best! Thank you so much. I used the "manual" method
because, well, that's just how I roll. <g>

The light layout is so much better, so much simpler. What a relief.

Thanks again for saving me from another headache.

Kinm

On 6/26/18, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Kimberly,

Here are instructions for changing Outlook on the web to a light version
that is more accessible.

If the following websites instructions don’t work by changing it in the
settings, then try the manual directions below.

Proper way, via settings:
https://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=34411
<https://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=34411>;

Manual method:
After signing in by whatever method (probably outlook.yourinstitution.com
<http://outlook.yourinstitution.com/>;), look at the address bar, it will
probably start with something like the following:
https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?blaughblaughblaugh
<https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?blaughblaughblaugh>;
Just go and delete the blaughblaughblaugh part, and put in layout=light, so
the new address would be https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?layout=light
<https://outlook.office365.com/owa/?layout=light>;

Make sure not to delete the question mark (?) in the URL.

Hope this helps,

Russell
On Jun 26, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi all,

Hoping someone can give me some help. In my office there is an ongoing
email issue that prevents us from sending or receiving email except
through the web interface of outlook.

The interface looks like it should be accessible enough, but for some
reason I am finding it incredibly confusing. If anyone has some
familiarity with the outlook interface and can give me some tips I
would very much appreciate the help. Our helpdesk folks have no idea
how soon the problems will be fixed so there's no telling how long I
will be trapped in outlook web mail hell.

Thanks in advance

--
Kimberly






--
Kimberly