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moderated "Clickable" WHAT?

 

Hello All,

         I want to state before going any further that I did search the forum archive and while there was a lot of material out there complaining about the endless announcement of clickable on webpages, but nothing that seemed to explain why or how to resolve it.  If I missed it and this turns out to be an unwelcome rerun I apologize in advance.

         I am working with JAWS 2018 and the latest version of Firefox.  The pages in question are the individual item pages in the McMaster Carr online catalog (mcmaster.com).  Additional questions, but unrelated to the "clickable" issue, will be coming.

         While there are certain elements on the page, particularly search result narrowing items on the left side of the page, really are "clickable" and that how I activate them when I want to include only results that include the attribute(s) in question, virtually every row and column of a table that gives dimensional or feature information for the item is being announced as "clickable" and it absolutely is not in any meaningful sense of that word.

          Can anyone tell me:

                 1.  What on earth is being indicated by saying "clickable" on text that, when one clicks on it, has absolutely no effect?  It's just plain text.

                 2.  Why anything that isn't clickable in the conventional sense of "you click it and some action will be performed" is being called such?

                 3.  How to get this insane flooding of "clickable" announcements to stop?

An example of the sort of page where you get endless "clickable" announcements from JAWS is for any one of the individual tie-down products on this McMaster Carr webpage:  https://www.mcmaster.com/#cargo-tie-downs/=1dgh56u     I believe it was also occurring on a single product description page, too, e.g., https://www.mcmaster.com/#8840t561/=1dgh5xg where the table on the page is having "clickable" announced on each and every item as one is walked through it.

Thank you in advance for any insights you have to offer.  This is entirely new "weird behavior" territory for me, particularly on the scale at which it's occurring.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Group policy editor with jaws

Tom Moore
 

Hi guys,
Does anyone know if the group policy editor in either windows 10 or any of
the server platforms, 2012, 2016 works with jfw?
Also what is the status of the different sections of the Microsoft
management console?

Thanks,
Tom


moderated Re: Using the outlook web interface with jaws

Michael Mote
 

Hi there! Been there done that. There is a more user friendly view of the Outlook app. You have to activate it. It is for low band width sites, and I will tell you, it strips some of the features, leaving you with basic email functionality. You can see if the help desk can find it in settings.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 3:24 PM
To: main <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Using the outlook web interface with jaws

Hi all,

Hoping someone can give me some help. In my office there is an ongoing email issue that prevents us from sending or receiving email except through the web interface of outlook.

The interface looks like it should be accessible enough, but for some reason I am finding it incredibly confusing. If anyone has some familiarity with the outlook interface and can give me some tips I would very much appreciate the help. Our helpdesk folks have no idea how soon the problems will be fixed so there's no telling how long I will be trapped in outlook web mail hell.

Thanks in advance

--
Kimberly


moderated Re: Checking remaining battery power

Mike B. <mike9902@...>
 


Hi Marilyn,
 
Try Insert / Jaws key, Shift, + B.
Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power

Tom,

 

I am using Windows 7 and JAWS 17 latest update. Will the 3 keystrokes still be the same? I tried, but without success.  

 

Thanks.

 

Marilyn  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power

 

Marilyn:

 

When using my Windows 7 laptop with Jaws 2018 here, I hit shift capslock B. … This will give me the percentage of charge left in my battery.  If the computer is plugged in, it will indicate that the battery is charging.

 

The battery will charge while using your computer when plugged in.  However, it is good  to occasionally unplug the laptop in order to let the battery cycle through a charge to preserve its life as long as possible.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 8:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power

 

Hello listers,

 

Please help –

 

I have a laptop and want to know – step by step please - how to find out how much battery power is left before I have to charge it again. Also, does the machine have to be off and plugged in to charge, or will it charge while plugged in and is in use?

 

Many thanks.

 

Marilyn

 


moderated Using the outlook web interface with jaws

Kimber Gardner
 

Hi all,

Hoping someone can give me some help. In my office there is an ongoing
email issue that prevents us from sending or receiving email except
through the web interface of outlook.

The interface looks like it should be accessible enough, but for some
reason I am finding it incredibly confusing. If anyone has some
familiarity with the outlook interface and can give me some tips I
would very much appreciate the help. Our helpdesk folks have no idea
how soon the problems will be fixed so there's no telling how long I
will be trapped in outlook web mail hell.

Thanks in advance

--
Kimberly


moderated Re: Checking remaining battery power + keyboard layout

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Marilyn. Please try not to be nervous. When I started here as a JAWS beginner in 2007, I didn’t know much of anything about Windows programs or JAWS, despite having been a DOS computer user for over twenty years. Everyone has to start somewhere, and none of us knows it all when we start. I still don’t know it all after eleven years of using JAWS and Windows.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 11:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power + keyboard layout

 

Tom and Bill,

 

Thanks for being so patient with me. Yes, I think I’ve got it now. J Sorry it took so much back and forth.

 

I’m assuming I don’t have laptop keyboard configuration because my laptop has a numpad like a free-standing keyboard. I didn’t think – didn’t know - to mention that when I first asked my question. There are so, so many things everyone else seems to know that I don’t have a clue about – makes me nervous to even ask.     

  

 

Again, many thanks.

 

Marilyn

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 9:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power

 

Bill:

 

Yes, I assumed that she already had Jaws set for the  laptop keyboard configuration.

 

As for the AC power notification when the computer is plugged in, I tried to indicate that this would tell her she was on normal electrical power, and that her battery was charging.

 

At least I think she’s got it now.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power

 

Hi, Tom. It didn’t work for her, because, although she has a laptop, she’s not using Laptop Keyboard Layout. In order for it to work for her, she needed to press JAWS key plus Shift key plus B. She got AC Connected, meaning, she is using her laptop with it plugged in, and is not on battery power.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 3:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power

 

Marilyn:

 

The percentage should just be announced.

 

Again, be sure you are hitting both the shift lock and shift keys together before pressing the letter B.

 

Not sure why this isn’t working for you.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power

 

Tom,

 

Well, still no luck. I have pressed the shift keys on both the left and right of the keyboard together with caps lock and then the letter b. The only thing that happens is that caps lock on and the b is announced, along with a little beep sound to indicate caps on or off.

 

Should I be arrowing to somewhere or should the percentage just be announced?

 

Thanks.

 

Marilyn

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 8:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power

 

Marilyn:

 

Yes, they should work.

 

Be sure to press the shift and shift lock key simultaneously, followed by the letter B. as in bravo.

 

Let us know if this still does not work for you.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power

 

Tom,

 

I am using Windows 7 and JAWS 17 latest update. Will the 3 keystrokes still be the same? I tried, but without success.  

 

Thanks.

 

Marilyn  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power

 

Marilyn:

 

When using my Windows 7 laptop with Jaws 2018 here, I hit shift capslock B. … This will give me the percentage of charge left in my battery.  If the computer is plugged in, it will indicate that the battery is charging.

 

The battery will charge while using your computer when plugged in.  However, it is good  to occasionally unplug the laptop in order to let the battery cycle through a charge to preserve its life as long as possible.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 8:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power

 

Hello listers,

 

Please help –

 

I have a laptop and want to know – step by step please - how to find out how much battery power is left before I have to charge it again. Also, does the machine have to be off and plugged in to charge, or will it charge while plugged in and is in use?

 

Many thanks.

 

Marilyn

 


moderated Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

John Covici
 

I have a version, but its really old, so I will send it, use at your
own risk.

On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 13:35:42 -0400,
Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

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[2 <text/html; utf-8 (base64)>]
Can’t find much when I google “FS Client” of “FS voip client” or other versions of that. Do you have a website?



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 9:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile



The most accessible VOIP application that I have found on the PC is called FS Client. It has no affiliation with Freedom Scientific. It is very user friendly, and works better than BRIA did on the computer in my case.





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 11:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile



For iOS Bria is definitely the way to go, Groundwire always used to be accessible as well, but I think Bria is better. They also hae a PC application, not sure how this all works now with Windows 10 and UWP apps and if desktop versions
are still supported/developed. In any case, I never did try the desktop version.

This might be a good question also on Jonathan Mosen’s Blind Phones list.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile



Cristóbal,

If you have a Google account I would strongly suggest you at least try out getting a Google Voice number and then playing with the Hangouts app on iOS and possibly under Chrome. One can also access the Hangouts functionality
at hangouts.google.com.

I do not believe a hold function is available, but I do know that a mute function is. I also don't know if one can use it to do multi-way calling for phone calls, but I know that one can do so for the built-in video calling
function, but that applies only to others who have Google Accounts.

My business number is a Google Voice number that I access exclusively via Hangouts. One can also use the native Google Voice webpage, too, but I haven't done that in ages because, for me, Hangouts is a superior interface.

Since it's free and not all that complicated to set up it's worth giving it a whirl and reporting back on what is, and is not, accessible via the various interfaces. If you want to talk to me off-list about this you know how
to reach me.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the
earth all one's lifetime.

~ Mark Twain

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I wish that was available in Canada, but I don’t think Google Voice is supported here.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 10:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

I may in fact do that and subscribe to Mosen’s list to ask this.

I’m generally inclined to Google Voice and indeed, this is what I currently use for my existing set up. The GV number is the one I have out in the wild per say and as my businesses main contact number. I in turn have it forwarded to my paid Skype number as well as my business cell. This allows me to work off of whatever computer I’m on at the time for incoming and outgoing calls. Be it my main desktop or laptop. Skype for the PCs and GV for my business cell. The added benefit to GV and that I should have mentioned in my original post is that you have full texting functionality which for the field that I’m in is necessary. Although, I could always just grab a separate GV number just for texting if need be or if a VOIP service doesn’t offer this.

Anyway, for me, this works well, but for a couple of minor issues. Things like call waiting or taking a second incoming call, etc. are not really smooth or doable. That or I just haven’t figured it out.

For this separate entity though, 1. I’d like to see if there’s something a little more professional/better put together than what I currently slapped together and 2. It’s not just me this time who would necessarily need to have access to this number and all its functions.

So I guess on the surface, GV would check all these boxes, and even Skype/Skype for business but for the apparently yet unaddressed accessibility issues. Still though, if there’s something else out there that can accomplish this with full cross platform accessibility, it would be good to know.

 

Thanks,

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

For iOS Bria is definitely the way to go, Groundwire always used to be accessible as well, but I think Bria is better. They also hae a PC application, not sure how this all works now with Windows 10 and UWP apps and if desktop versions are still supported/developed. In any case, I never did try the desktop version.

This might be a good question also on Jonathan Mosen’s Blind Phones list.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

Cristóbal,

            If you have a Google account I would strongly suggest you at least try out getting a Google Voice number and then playing with the Hangouts app on iOS and possibly under Chrome.  One can also access the Hangouts functionality at hangouts.google.com.

            I do not believe a hold function is available, but I do know that a mute function is.  I also don't know if one can use it to do multi-way calling for phone calls, but I know that one can do so for the built-in video calling function, but that applies only to others who have Google Accounts.

            My business number is a Google Voice number that I access exclusively via Hangouts.  One can also use the native Google Voice webpage, too, but I haven't done that in ages because, for me, Hangouts is a superior interface.

            Since it's free and not all that complicated to set up it's worth giving it a whirl and reporting back on what is, and is not, accessible via the various interfaces.  If you want to talk to me off-list about this you know how to reach me.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Perfect, thanks, I did see that Freeswitch link, but I think it was for the PDF so I didn’t think it was it..

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 10:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

Hi there!  Here is what I have.

The documentation is here if you’d like to look into it:

https://freeswitch.org/confluence/display/FREESWITCH/FSClient.

This also has hotkeys for answering calls (It also sets the focus of the window to the front when a call comes in, so if you’re doing something else, the answer call bubble will pop up on top), ending calls, and muting (It has a hold button too, but there’s no assigned hotkey). There’s also a hotkey for setting the focus back to the dial pad.

 

This is a direct download link to the zip file if you’d like to test it:

http://files.freeswitch.org/windows/installer/x86/FSClient.zip.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 1:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

Can’t find much when I google “FS Client” of “FS voip client” or other versions of that. Do you have a website?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 9:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

The most accessible VOIP application that I have found on the PC is called FS Client.  It has no affiliation with Freedom Scientific.  It is very user friendly, and works better than BRIA did on the computer in my case. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 11:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

For iOS Bria is definitely the way to go, Groundwire always used to be accessible as well, but I think Bria is better. They also hae a PC application, not sure how this all works now with Windows 10 and UWP apps and if desktop versions are still supported/developed. In any case, I never did try the desktop version.

This might be a good question also on Jonathan Mosen’s Blind Phones list.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

Cristóbal,

            If you have a Google account I would strongly suggest you at least try out getting a Google Voice number and then playing with the Hangouts app on iOS and possibly under Chrome.  One can also access the Hangouts functionality at hangouts.google.com.

            I do not believe a hold function is available, but I do know that a mute function is.  I also don't know if one can use it to do multi-way calling for phone calls, but I know that one can do so for the built-in video calling function, but that applies only to others who have Google Accounts.

            My business number is a Google Voice number that I access exclusively via Hangouts.  One can also use the native Google Voice webpage, too, but I haven't done that in ages because, for me, Hangouts is a superior interface.

            Since it's free and not all that complicated to set up it's worth giving it a whirl and reporting back on what is, and is not, accessible via the various interfaces.  If you want to talk to me off-list about this you know how to reach me.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

John Covici
 

Yep, fsclient is generally very nice. Its more accessible than most
voip clients for the desktop. I also use bria mobile on the phone,
the latest version is a bit quirky, but still accessible.

On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 12:25:42 -0400,
Michael Mote wrote:

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[2 <text/html; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
The most accessible VOIP application that I have found on the PC is called FS Client. It has no affiliation with Freedom Scientific. It is very user friendly, and works better than BRIA did on the computer in my case.





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 11:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile



For iOS Bria is definitely the way to go, Groundwire always used to be accessible as well, but I think Bria is better. They also hae a PC application, not sure how this all works now with Windows 10 and UWP apps and if desktop versions
are still supported/developed. In any case, I never did try the desktop version.

This might be a good question also on Jonathan Mosen’s Blind Phones list.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile



Cristóbal,

If you have a Google account I would strongly suggest you at least try out getting a Google Voice number and then playing with the Hangouts app on iOS and possibly under Chrome. One can also access the Hangouts functionality
at hangouts.google.com.

I do not believe a hold function is available, but I do know that a mute function is. I also don't know if one can use it to do multi-way calling for phone calls, but I know that one can do so for the built-in video calling
function, but that applies only to others who have Google Accounts.

My business number is a Google Voice number that I access exclusively via Hangouts. One can also use the native Google Voice webpage, too, but I haven't done that in ages because, for me, Hangouts is a superior interface.

Since it's free and not all that complicated to set up it's worth giving it a whirl and reporting back on what is, and is not, accessible via the various interfaces. If you want to talk to me off-list about this you know how
to reach me.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the
earth all one's lifetime.

~ Mark Twain

--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Checking remaining battery power + keyboard layout

Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...>
 

Tom and Bill,

 

Thanks for being so patient with me. Yes, I think I’ve got it now. J Sorry it took so much back and forth.

 

I’m assuming I don’t have laptop keyboard configuration because my laptop has a numpad like a free-standing keyboard. I didn’t think – didn’t know - to mention that when I first asked my question. There are so, so many things everyone else seems to know that I don’t have a clue about – makes me nervous to even ask.     

  

 

Again, many thanks.

 

Marilyn

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 9:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power

 

Bill:

 

Yes, I assumed that she already had Jaws set for the  laptop keyboard configuration.

 

As for the AC power notification when the computer is plugged in, I tried to indicate that this would tell her she was on normal electrical power, and that her battery was charging.

 

At least I think she’s got it now.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power

 

Hi, Tom. It didn’t work for her, because, although she has a laptop, she’s not using Laptop Keyboard Layout. In order for it to work for her, she needed to press JAWS key plus Shift key plus B. She got AC Connected, meaning, she is using her laptop with it plugged in, and is not on battery power.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 3:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power

 

Marilyn:

 

The percentage should just be announced.

 

Again, be sure you are hitting both the shift lock and shift keys together before pressing the letter B.

 

Not sure why this isn’t working for you.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power

 

Tom,

 

Well, still no luck. I have pressed the shift keys on both the left and right of the keyboard together with caps lock and then the letter b. The only thing that happens is that caps lock on and the b is announced, along with a little beep sound to indicate caps on or off.

 

Should I be arrowing to somewhere or should the percentage just be announced?

 

Thanks.

 

Marilyn

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 8:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power

 

Marilyn:

 

Yes, they should work.

 

Be sure to press the shift and shift lock key simultaneously, followed by the letter B. as in bravo.

 

Let us know if this still does not work for you.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power

 

Tom,

 

I am using Windows 7 and JAWS 17 latest update. Will the 3 keystrokes still be the same? I tried, but without success.  

 

Thanks.

 

Marilyn  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power

 

Marilyn:

 

When using my Windows 7 laptop with Jaws 2018 here, I hit shift capslock B. … This will give me the percentage of charge left in my battery.  If the computer is plugged in, it will indicate that the battery is charging.

 

The battery will charge while using your computer when plugged in.  However, it is good  to occasionally unplug the laptop in order to let the battery cycle through a charge to preserve its life as long as possible.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marilyn Bland
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 8:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Checking remaining battery power

 

Hello listers,

 

Please help –

 

I have a laptop and want to know – step by step please - how to find out how much battery power is left before I have to charge it again. Also, does the machine have to be off and plugged in to charge, or will it charge while plugged in and is in use?

 

Many thanks.

 

Marilyn

 


moderated Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

Cristóbal
 

I may in fact do that and subscribe to Mosen’s list to ask this.

I’m generally inclined to Google Voice and indeed, this is what I currently use for my existing set up. The GV number is the one I have out in the wild per say and as my businesses main contact number. I in turn have it forwarded to my paid Skype number as well as my business cell. This allows me to work off of whatever computer I’m on at the time for incoming and outgoing calls. Be it my main desktop or laptop. Skype for the PCs and GV for my business cell. The added benefit to GV and that I should have mentioned in my original post is that you have full texting functionality which for the field that I’m in is necessary. Although, I could always just grab a separate GV number just for texting if need be or if a VOIP service doesn’t offer this.

Anyway, for me, this works well, but for a couple of minor issues. Things like call waiting or taking a second incoming call, etc. are not really smooth or doable. That or I just haven’t figured it out.

For this separate entity though, 1. I’d like to see if there’s something a little more professional/better put together than what I currently slapped together and 2. It’s not just me this time who would necessarily need to have access to this number and all its functions.

So I guess on the surface, GV would check all these boxes, and even Skype/Skype for business but for the apparently yet unaddressed accessibility issues. Still though, if there’s something else out there that can accomplish this with full cross platform accessibility, it would be good to know.

 

Thanks,

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

For iOS Bria is definitely the way to go, Groundwire always used to be accessible as well, but I think Bria is better. They also hae a PC application, not sure how this all works now with Windows 10 and UWP apps and if desktop versions are still supported/developed. In any case, I never did try the desktop version.

This might be a good question also on Jonathan Mosen’s Blind Phones list.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

Cristóbal,

            If you have a Google account I would strongly suggest you at least try out getting a Google Voice number and then playing with the Hangouts app on iOS and possibly under Chrome.  One can also access the Hangouts functionality at hangouts.google.com.

            I do not believe a hold function is available, but I do know that a mute function is.  I also don't know if one can use it to do multi-way calling for phone calls, but I know that one can do so for the built-in video calling function, but that applies only to others who have Google Accounts.

            My business number is a Google Voice number that I access exclusively via Hangouts.  One can also use the native Google Voice webpage, too, but I haven't done that in ages because, for me, Hangouts is a superior interface.

            Since it's free and not all that complicated to set up it's worth giving it a whirl and reporting back on what is, and is not, accessible via the various interfaces.  If you want to talk to me off-list about this you know how to reach me.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

Michael Mote
 

Hi there!  Here is what I have.

The documentation is here if you’d like to look into it:

https://freeswitch.org/confluence/display/FREESWITCH/FSClient.

This also has hotkeys for answering calls (It also sets the focus of the window to the front when a call comes in, so if you’re doing something else, the answer call bubble will pop up on top), ending calls, and muting (It has a hold button too, but there’s no assigned hotkey). There’s also a hotkey for setting the focus back to the dial pad.

 

This is a direct download link to the zip file if you’d like to test it:

http://files.freeswitch.org/windows/installer/x86/FSClient.zip.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 1:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

Can’t find much when I google “FS Client” of “FS voip client” or other versions of that. Do you have a website?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 9:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

The most accessible VOIP application that I have found on the PC is called FS Client.  It has no affiliation with Freedom Scientific.  It is very user friendly, and works better than BRIA did on the computer in my case. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 11:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

For iOS Bria is definitely the way to go, Groundwire always used to be accessible as well, but I think Bria is better. They also hae a PC application, not sure how this all works now with Windows 10 and UWP apps and if desktop versions are still supported/developed. In any case, I never did try the desktop version.

This might be a good question also on Jonathan Mosen’s Blind Phones list.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

Cristóbal,

            If you have a Google account I would strongly suggest you at least try out getting a Google Voice number and then playing with the Hangouts app on iOS and possibly under Chrome.  One can also access the Hangouts functionality at hangouts.google.com.

            I do not believe a hold function is available, but I do know that a mute function is.  I also don't know if one can use it to do multi-way calling for phone calls, but I know that one can do so for the built-in video calling function, but that applies only to others who have Google Accounts.

            My business number is a Google Voice number that I access exclusively via Hangouts.  One can also use the native Google Voice webpage, too, but I haven't done that in ages because, for me, Hangouts is a superior interface.

            Since it's free and not all that complicated to set up it's worth giving it a whirl and reporting back on what is, and is not, accessible via the various interfaces.  If you want to talk to me off-list about this you know how to reach me.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Can’t find much when I google “FS Client” of “FS voip client” or other versions of that. Do you have a website?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 9:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

The most accessible VOIP application that I have found on the PC is called FS Client.  It has no affiliation with Freedom Scientific.  It is very user friendly, and works better than BRIA did on the computer in my case. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 11:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

For iOS Bria is definitely the way to go, Groundwire always used to be accessible as well, but I think Bria is better. They also hae a PC application, not sure how this all works now with Windows 10 and UWP apps and if desktop versions are still supported/developed. In any case, I never did try the desktop version.

This might be a good question also on Jonathan Mosen’s Blind Phones list.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

Cristóbal,

            If you have a Google account I would strongly suggest you at least try out getting a Google Voice number and then playing with the Hangouts app on iOS and possibly under Chrome.  One can also access the Hangouts functionality at hangouts.google.com.

            I do not believe a hold function is available, but I do know that a mute function is.  I also don't know if one can use it to do multi-way calling for phone calls, but I know that one can do so for the built-in video calling function, but that applies only to others who have Google Accounts.

            My business number is a Google Voice number that I access exclusively via Hangouts.  One can also use the native Google Voice webpage, too, but I haven't done that in ages because, for me, Hangouts is a superior interface.

            Since it's free and not all that complicated to set up it's worth giving it a whirl and reporting back on what is, and is not, accessible via the various interfaces.  If you want to talk to me off-list about this you know how to reach me.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Thanks for that, I will have to check that out as well since I am evaluating a Voip service right now called Jive.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 9:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

The most accessible VOIP application that I have found on the PC is called FS Client.  It has no affiliation with Freedom Scientific.  It is very user friendly, and works better than BRIA did on the computer in my case. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 11:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

For iOS Bria is definitely the way to go, Groundwire always used to be accessible as well, but I think Bria is better. They also hae a PC application, not sure how this all works now with Windows 10 and UWP apps and if desktop versions are still supported/developed. In any case, I never did try the desktop version.

This might be a good question also on Jonathan Mosen’s Blind Phones list.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

Cristóbal,

            If you have a Google account I would strongly suggest you at least try out getting a Google Voice number and then playing with the Hangouts app on iOS and possibly under Chrome.  One can also access the Hangouts functionality at hangouts.google.com.

            I do not believe a hold function is available, but I do know that a mute function is.  I also don't know if one can use it to do multi-way calling for phone calls, but I know that one can do so for the built-in video calling function, but that applies only to others who have Google Accounts.

            My business number is a Google Voice number that I access exclusively via Hangouts.  One can also use the native Google Voice webpage, too, but I haven't done that in ages because, for me, Hangouts is a superior interface.

            Since it's free and not all that complicated to set up it's worth giving it a whirl and reporting back on what is, and is not, accessible via the various interfaces.  If you want to talk to me off-list about this you know how to reach me.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: audio ducking and Jaws and cortanna

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

The alarm/Cortana sounds probably just dominate Jaws, this happens also sometimes when you go on a website where some video ad starts playing and suddenly you can hardly hear Jaws anymore because of the other audio.

If audio ducking works correctly it is actually supposed to duck/lower other audio not Jaws so that as soon as you use Jaws you can actually hear it and find a button or whatever to turn off the alarm or to stop the video from playing.

As I said before, there is no good solution without a separate sound card or USB sound device. I just received an email from AT Guys, they are selling an USB audio device which has a 3.5mm headphone speaker jack and a 3.5mm microphone jack for $10, here is the link:

 

Aluminum USB External Stereo Sound Adapter for Windows and Mac

 

I am considering ordering at least 3 or 4 of these things for my various computers so I can finally separate Jaws and other audio.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 9:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: audio ducking and Jaws and cortanna

 

What Nino wants is to find out how to prevent JAWS from being lowered when he gets an alarm notice from Cortana. When Nino gets a notice now, he can’t hear JAWS tell him for what time the alarm is set. Audio Ducking is not on, neither is the Communications tab set to reduce JAWS. We think this is a function of Cortana for which there is no way to prevent the JAWS audio from being lowered.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:37 AM
To:
main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: audio ducking and Jaws and cortanna

 

Hi,

If I’m understanding Nino’s post correctly, he wants JAWS to stay silent when interacting with Cortana, not the other way around. Is this correct?

It is tricky to implement application sleep mode for Cortana, because it’ll affect Start menu as well.

Technical: in Windows 10, Cortana and Start menu are housed inside one executable: SearchUI.exe. This is the reason why you’d hear “Cortana” when you open Start menu. If application sleep mode is applied to SearchUI.exe, not only JAWS would stay silent, Start menu interaction won’t work properly.

There is a way to let JAWS stay silent when you talk to Cortana: scripting SearchUI.exe (searchui.jss). The idea is to catch UIA events on a particular control and force JAWS to stay silent as long as a particular event is occurring on that UIA element (trust me, it took me months to get it right for another screen reader; talk to me privately if you have questions on how I did it for NVDA).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: audio ducking and Jaws and cortanna

 

I no longer have JAWS, so what follows is sketchy and from memory, but isn't it possible to put JAWS into "no voice" mode or actually sleep JAWS entirely when focus is on specific applications?  This ability exists in NVDA, and I could have sworn it existed in JAWS, too, but the details of implementing it have escaped me.  One generally wants JAWS to shut up when dealing with other apps that are self-voicing. 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: audio ducking and Jaws and cortanna

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

What Nino wants is to find out how to prevent JAWS from being lowered when he gets an alarm notice from Cortana. When Nino gets a notice now, he can’t hear JAWS tell him for what time the alarm is set. Audio Ducking is not on, neither is the Communications tab set to reduce JAWS. We think this is a function of Cortana for which there is no way to prevent the JAWS audio from being lowered.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: audio ducking and Jaws and cortanna

 

Hi,

If I’m understanding Nino’s post correctly, he wants JAWS to stay silent when interacting with Cortana, not the other way around. Is this correct?

It is tricky to implement application sleep mode for Cortana, because it’ll affect Start menu as well.

Technical: in Windows 10, Cortana and Start menu are housed inside one executable: SearchUI.exe. This is the reason why you’d hear “Cortana” when you open Start menu. If application sleep mode is applied to SearchUI.exe, not only JAWS would stay silent, Start menu interaction won’t work properly.

There is a way to let JAWS stay silent when you talk to Cortana: scripting SearchUI.exe (searchui.jss). The idea is to catch UIA events on a particular control and force JAWS to stay silent as long as a particular event is occurring on that UIA element (trust me, it took me months to get it right for another screen reader; talk to me privately if you have questions on how I did it for NVDA).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: audio ducking and Jaws and cortanna

 

I no longer have JAWS, so what follows is sketchy and from memory, but isn't it possible to put JAWS into "no voice" mode or actually sleep JAWS entirely when focus is on specific applications?  This ability exists in NVDA, and I could have sworn it existed in JAWS, too, but the details of implementing it have escaped me.  One generally wants JAWS to shut up when dealing with other apps that are self-voicing. 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

Michael Mote
 

The most accessible VOIP application that I have found on the PC is called FS Client.  It has no affiliation with Freedom Scientific.  It is very user friendly, and works better than BRIA did on the computer in my case. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 11:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

For iOS Bria is definitely the way to go, Groundwire always used to be accessible as well, but I think Bria is better. They also hae a PC application, not sure how this all works now with Windows 10 and UWP apps and if desktop versions are still supported/developed. In any case, I never did try the desktop version.

This might be a good question also on Jonathan Mosen’s Blind Phones list.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

Cristóbal,

            If you have a Google account I would strongly suggest you at least try out getting a Google Voice number and then playing with the Hangouts app on iOS and possibly under Chrome.  One can also access the Hangouts functionality at hangouts.google.com.

            I do not believe a hold function is available, but I do know that a mute function is.  I also don't know if one can use it to do multi-way calling for phone calls, but I know that one can do so for the built-in video calling function, but that applies only to others who have Google Accounts.

            My business number is a Google Voice number that I access exclusively via Hangouts.  One can also use the native Google Voice webpage, too, but I haven't done that in ages because, for me, Hangouts is a superior interface.

            Since it's free and not all that complicated to set up it's worth giving it a whirl and reporting back on what is, and is not, accessible via the various interfaces.  If you want to talk to me off-list about this you know how to reach me.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

For iOS Bria is definitely the way to go, Groundwire always used to be accessible as well, but I think Bria is better. They also hae a PC application, not sure how this all works now with Windows 10 and UWP apps and if desktop versions are still supported/developed. In any case, I never did try the desktop version.

This might be a good question also on Jonathan Mosen’s Blind Phones list.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible VOIP/softphone option for desktop and iOS mobile

 

Cristóbal,

            If you have a Google account I would strongly suggest you at least try out getting a Google Voice number and then playing with the Hangouts app on iOS and possibly under Chrome.  One can also access the Hangouts functionality at hangouts.google.com.

            I do not believe a hold function is available, but I do know that a mute function is.  I also don't know if one can use it to do multi-way calling for phone calls, but I know that one can do so for the built-in video calling function, but that applies only to others who have Google Accounts.

            My business number is a Google Voice number that I access exclusively via Hangouts.  One can also use the native Google Voice webpage, too, but I haven't done that in ages because, for me, Hangouts is a superior interface.

            Since it's free and not all that complicated to set up it's worth giving it a whirl and reporting back on what is, and is not, accessible via the various interfaces.  If you want to talk to me off-list about this you know how to reach me.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: audio ducking and Jaws and cortanna

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I would highly recommend you turn off audio ducking since that feature is not working correctly. I don’t even know why the feature is still there since FS seems to have abandoned it. I would also write to FS and ask them why they are not either decide to fix it or take it out.

When I just tried it again using the Windows 10 Audible app (the one from the Windows store) the audio book was quieter with audio ducking on, but the volume did not come up even if I didn’t touch the keuyboard. As soon as I turned audio ducking off with the layered key command Jaws Key+Spacebar and D, the audio book volume came up, as soon as I turned it on it went down and stayed down.

I am a Jaws beta tester as well and this has come up on the beta list not that long ago and there was no response from FS regarding this feature. It was first introduced I think maybe with Windows 8 or 8.1, at some point FS announced the feature was not working correctly and it would be disabled for now, now it does seem to do something except it is not how it is supposed to work.

With the support for multiple audio devices in Windows 10 April update I think the best solution is to have Jaws on a dedicated audio device.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: audio ducking and Jaws and cortanna

 

I no longer have JAWS, so what follows is sketchy and from memory, but isn't it possible to put JAWS into "no voice" mode or actually sleep JAWS entirely when focus is on specific applications?  This ability exists in NVDA, and I could have sworn it existed in JAWS, too, but the details of implementing it have escaped me.  One generally wants JAWS to shut up when dealing with other apps that are self-voicing. 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain