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Re: Designing an Accessible User Interface
Annabelle Susan Morison
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These controls of Atmosphere Deluxe, when examined in the
Window Classes dialog box, appear mostly as "ThunderRT6UserControlDC", which I'm
not sure what that's supposed to be, and there's even one called a
"ThunderRT6PictureBoxDC", which if I'm not mistaken, is supposed to be something
along the lines of the main window.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Ingram Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 2:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Designing an Accessible User Interface hI HOW
ARE YOU? mAYBE THERE IS SOMEONE WHO CAN WRITE JAWS SCRIPTS FOR THIS PROGRAM THAT
WILL BE ABLE TO DO THE PROPER LABELING OF THE GRAPHICS AND BUTTONS. also
IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT PROGRAMS LIKE THIS. I CAN BE REACHED
AT DINGRAM269@....
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Re: Designing an Accessible User Interface
Andre Polykanine <andre@...>
Hi Annabelle,
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Well, a perfect way would be using native Windows controls, whatever library, framework or technology you plan to use. It is close to impossible to talk further without any knowledge about what stack you're developing on. -- With best regards from Ukraine, Andre Skype: menelion_elensule Twitter (English only): @AndrePolykanine
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From: Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@comcast.net> To: main@jfw.groups.io Date created: , 10:42:32 AM Subject: Designing an Accessible User Interface Hi, it's Annabelle. I'm not sure how to put this, so for now, I'll just make it short and sweet. I want to design a user interface that is accessible to both sighted and blind folks alike, and I'm wondering, what is the perfect way to design the controls so they look like those found on the browser of the Windows Operating System? Also, how do you change colors for foreground and background so they'll be recognized when the button or control is navigated to by either the PC Cursor or the JAWS cursor, then press JAWSKey+5? For example, I want to make a button that is "Light Sky Blue" on "Forest Green". How would I program those parameters? Is there a way to make the program in a plain text editor like Notepad? Specifically, I'm making a program where you can toggle sounds by checking/unchecking checkboxes, and load them by pressing "Open" buttons in each slot. You can then adjust the Volume, Volume Range, Rate Of Change, and L/R Balance with sliders. There'll be left-right sliders for the "L/R Balance" slots, and Up/Down Sliders for the "Volume", "Volume Range", and "Rate Of Change" slots. I'm also wanting to put other common controls like Radio Buttons, "Open" dialogs, Listboxes, Dials, and other user-friendly controls.
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Re: Designing an Accessible User Interface
David Ingram
hI HOW ARE YOU? mAYBE THERE IS SOMEONE WHO CAN WRITE JAWS SCRIPTS FOR THIS PROGRAM THAT WILL BE ABLE TO DO THE PROPER LABELING OF THE GRAPHICS AND BUTTONS. also IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT PROGRAMS LIKE THIS. I CAN BE REACHED AT DINGRAM269@....
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Re: Anyone familiar with Zoom?
Amanda Berkley
Hi Mike,
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Thanks for your input, no screen sharing is required, this is a coaching session; so it will be all dialogue. I think I'll try it on the PC first, and move to the iPhone if that doesn't work. Thanks, Amanda
On 6/19/18, Michael Mote <miketmote73@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Amanda! I've used it both ways. If I'm being honest, the PC version
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Re: Anyone familiar with Zoom?
Michael Mote
Hi Amanda! I've used it both ways. If I'm being honest, the PC version seems to work better, but it really depends on what you're going to be doing in your session. If it requires you to share your screen, then by all means, use your computer.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amanda Berkley Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:00 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Anyone familiar with Zoom? Hi Mike, Do you suggest using it on a computer or via a mobile device such as the iPhone? I've looked at the Zoom site, and it seems very confusing as to which platform I would need to connect 1 on 1 with a person. Thanks, Amanda On 6/19/18, Michael Mote <miketmote73@gmail.com> wrote: Hi there! I have used Zoom several times, both as a host, and as an
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Re: Can I Copy & print just the table in a web site?
Jerry Berrier <jerry.berrier@...>
You have to be on the very top line of the table to use it. It’s the line that says how many columns and rows there are in the table. So if you hit t for table, you should be in the right place. I just tried it with Chrome running Windows 7. On one table it worked fine, but on a different one I could not get it to copy to the clipboard. No idea why.
Jerry Berrier Director of Education Technology Perkins School for the Blind
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:23 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Can I Copy & print just the table in a web site?
Hello, I thought I might try this out on my credit card site, Citicards.com I am in the table of Charges and hear the rows and columns. I pressed F8 and I heard a number of charactors selected but pressing ctrl C gets nothing at all. Jaws 2018 stays silent. I went to paste this into excel and nothing at all was actually copied to the clipboard.
I tried refreshing the buffer with insert escape but it didn’t help. I am using chrome as the browser. Does this not work in chrome? Thanks Shannon From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Hi, Try using the paste feature in the context menu Shift + F10 or app key. For best results, choose one of the paste option. That usually works for me.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
And only the table “should be” selected and copied. I find this feature sometimes works great and other times it does not. What makes it work or what makes it not work I don’t know.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Hi Peter,
Try this. On the top or beginning of each table JAWS announces the number of rows and columns in the table. On this announcement press F8. Then control+C and only the table will be selected and copied. HTH
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Hello Groups,
I know that Jaws uses the virtual cursor in order to simplify readability. This means that each column item is on a separate line.
I have tried these 2 Quick Setting options (for Firefox 52ESR): Select and copy from the virtual cursor and Select and copy full content using onscreen highlight
Using both settings, I have selected from the beginning of the table, using shift plus down-arrow, to select 30 rows, and then copying to the clipboard. 30 is not enough for the whole table but just enough for sample purposes.
Pasting the clipboard into Word results in each column entry on a separate line.
Is there a way to select and copy only the table and have it appear in Word as a multi column table? If this is possible, then Word would probably print it in a table structure. Is there another way without using Word?
Thanks,
Peter T.
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Re: Taking a snapshot of an open program
Mario,
That is correct, and if your Windows 10 system is set up "as per usual" they should immediately open the MS Feedback Hub, as this is the only way to view the content. That message most often comes up if you have a default web browser other than Edge and there's typically something that shows up along with it (but whether it ever becomes visible to the screen reader or not I cannot say) that allows you to say that if you receive a link of this type it should open in Feedback Hub. I have Chrome set as my default web browser and had to do that. Those links will open a tab in Chrome but then Chrome "hands off" to Feedback Hub and it opens to the piece of feedback that the link points to. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. ~ Mark Twain
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Re: Taking a snapshot of an open program
Mario
FYI, it appears these links to the articles result in:
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"This content is available only in the FeedbackHub app through the Windows 10."
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From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, Jun 19, 2018 11:57 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Taking a snapshot of an open program Mario, You're quite welcome. My partner's laptop, which is the "hardware twin" of the one I'm typing on, just updated to Version 1803, latest build, from Version 1709 over this past weekend. His, too, takes the windowed screenshot via WinKey + ALT + PrtSc and it's somehow run through the Xbox part of Windows 10 to place the screenshot in the Videos\Captures folder. What's interesting is that you get auditory feedback when the notification comes up that the screenshot has been captured and saved when you use this method. When you use WinKey + PrtSc to do a whole screen capture, there is no auditory feedback. The screen itself does a momentary dimming when the screenshot is taken and placed in the Pictures\Screenshots folder. That's perfectly fine for those of us that can see it, and I have yet to see WinKey + PrtSc fail to work, but you have to trust that it did and just go check what you got in Pictures\Screenshots afterward. I have filed feedback with Microsoft about both the odd placement of a windowed screenshot and the fact that the full screen screenshot mechanism does not give auditory feedback, which is an accessibility issue. If anyone wishes to review either piece of feedback, or upvote same, here are the links: Windows Key + Prt Sc does not provide auditory feedback - MS Feedback Hub ( https://aka.ms/AA1n5vd ) Windowed Screenshot using Windows Key + ALT + PrtSc - Why Xbox and why Videos\Capture? - MS Feedback Hub ( https://aka.ms/AA1my6a ) -- Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. ~ Mark Twain
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Re: Anyone familiar with Zoom?
Steve Matzura
Zoom accessibility is first-rate. They can send you the meeting URL, or even create a small, and I really do mean small, application which can sit on your Desktop, and when clicked on, will immediately/instantly connect you to their meeting.
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On 6/19/2018 12:15 PM, Amanda Berkley wrote:
Hi,
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Re: Can I Copy & print just the table in a web site?
Shannon
Hello, I thought I might try this out on my credit card site, Citicards.com I am in the table of Charges and hear the rows and columns. I pressed F8 and I heard a number of charactors selected but pressing ctrl C gets nothing at all. Jaws 2018 stays silent. I went to paste this into excel and nothing at all was actually copied to the clipboard.
I tried refreshing the buffer with insert escape but it didn’t help. I am using chrome as the browser. Does this not work in chrome? Thanks Shannon
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:52 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Can I Copy & print just the table in a web site?
Hi, Try using the paste feature in the context menu Shift + F10 or app key. For best results, choose one of the paste option. That usually works for me.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
And only the table “should be” selected and copied. I find this feature sometimes works great and other times it does not. What makes it work or what makes it not work I don’t know.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of HH. Smith Jr.
Hi Peter,
Try this. On the top or beginning of each table JAWS announces the number of rows and columns in the table. On this announcement press F8. Then control+C and only the table will be selected and copied. HTH
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
Hello Groups,
I know that Jaws uses the virtual cursor in order to simplify readability. This means that each column item is on a separate line.
I have tried these 2 Quick Setting options (for Firefox 52ESR): Select and copy from the virtual cursor and Select and copy full content using onscreen highlight
Using both settings, I have selected from the beginning of the table, using shift plus down-arrow, to select 30 rows, and then copying to the clipboard. 30 is not enough for the whole table but just enough for sample purposes.
Pasting the clipboard into Word results in each column entry on a separate line.
Is there a way to select and copy only the table and have it appear in Word as a multi column table? If this is possible, then Word would probably print it in a table structure. Is there another way without using Word?
Thanks,
Peter T.
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Re: Anyone familiar with Zoom?
Amanda Berkley
Hi Mike,
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Do you suggest using it on a computer or via a mobile device such as the iPhone? I've looked at the Zoom site, and it seems very confusing as to which platform I would need to connect 1 on 1 with a person. Thanks, Amanda
On 6/19/18, Michael Mote <miketmote73@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi there! I have used Zoom several times, both as a host, and as an
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Re: Anyone familiar with Zoom?
Michael Mote
Hi there! I have used Zoom several times, both as a host, and as an attendee. It is very user friendly, and has a lot of shortcut keys that you can take advantage of when using the application.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amanda Berkley Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:15 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Anyone familiar with Zoom? Hi, I have someone who wants to connect with me via the Zoom platform. Does anyone know of it's accessibility? Just wondering if anyone has experience using it with JAWS 18. Thanks, Amanda
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Listen to vocalizer v2 voice samples?
Ann Byrne
I can download the vocalizer voices without a problem. However, I cannot find a place to listen to samples so I can decide whether I *want to download them.
Where are the samples hiding???? thx,
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Anyone familiar with Zoom?
Amanda Berkley
Hi,
I have someone who wants to connect with me via the Zoom platform. Does anyone know of it's accessibility? Just wondering if anyone has experience using it with JAWS 18. Thanks, Amanda
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Re: Taking a snapshot of an open program
Mario,
You're quite welcome. My partner's laptop, which is the "hardware twin" of the one I'm typing on, just updated to Version 1803, latest build, from Version 1709 over this past weekend. His, too, takes the windowed screenshot via WinKey + ALT + PrtSc and it's somehow run through the Xbox part of Windows 10 to place the screenshot in the Videos\Captures folder. What's interesting is that you get auditory feedback when the notification comes up that the screenshot has been captured and saved when you use this method. When you use WinKey + PrtSc to do a whole screen capture, there is no auditory feedback. The screen itself does a momentary dimming when the screenshot is taken and placed in the Pictures\Screenshots folder. That's perfectly fine for those of us that can see it, and I have yet to see WinKey + PrtSc fail to work, but you have to trust that it did and just go check what you got in Pictures\Screenshots afterward. I have filed feedback with Microsoft about both the odd placement of a windowed screenshot and the fact that the full screen screenshot mechanism does not give auditory feedback, which is an accessibility issue. If anyone wishes to review either piece of feedback, or upvote same, here are the links: Windows Key + Prt Sc does not provide auditory feedback - MS Feedback Hub Windowed Screenshot using Windows Key + ALT + PrtSc - Why Xbox and why Videos\Capture? - MS Feedback Hub -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. ~ Mark Twain
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Re: Taking a snapshot of an open program
Mario
thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.
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From: Brian [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, Jun 19, 2018 10:26 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Taking a snapshot of an open program My reading was not that he necessarily wanted a windowed snapshot, but that the window in question was somehow not what was showing "front an center" on his desktop at the time. On my computer, as of one of the latest version 1803 cumulative updates, WinKey + ALT + PrtSC is taking a snapshot of the Window with focus and placing it, very oddly, in Videos\Captures and assigning it the name of the window title using PNG format. I have been told that this behavior, when it occurs, has been consistent so far but what's inconsistent is whether it occurs at all. I am hoping that this gets fixed, since a screenshot is an image, not a video, but it's still handy once you know where the thing actually ends up. The old PrtSc key hit to take a full screen screenshot and place it on the clipboard, and ALT + PrtSc to take a windowed screenshot and place it on the clipboard, have remained completely unchanged in Windows 10. But you then have to open some image manipulation program, and I typically use good, old-fashioned Paint, and paste from the clipboard and save the resulting image file in the format of your choosing. That's always been the case using this method, too. -- Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. ~ Mark Twain
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Re: Taking a snapshot of an open program
Nino Dagostino
Good morning "smile" Thanks for helping me out. I think you explained it beter.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:08 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Taking a snapshot of an open program according to his post, Nino wants to take a snapshot of the program window. is there a way to just take a snapshot of the active window like it was possible with alt+prt sc in Windows 7? -------- Original Message -------- From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, Jun 19, 2018 9:44 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Taking a snapshot of an open program WinKey + PrtSc takes a full screen screenshot and places it in the Pictures\Screenshots folder. It will take the screenshot of whatever arrangement is active on the screen at the time. If you want a specific program to be "front and center" then make sure you've placed focus on it via ALT+TAB and, possibly, maximized it if necessary. -- Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. ~ Mark Twain
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Re: Taking a snapshot of an open program
My reading was not that he necessarily wanted a windowed snapshot, but that the window in question was somehow not what was showing "front an center" on his desktop at the time.
On my computer, as of one of the latest version 1803 cumulative updates, WinKey + ALT + PrtSC is taking a snapshot of the Window with focus and placing it, very oddly, in Videos\Captures and assigning it the name of the window title using PNG format. I have been told that this behavior, when it occurs, has been consistent so far but what's inconsistent is whether it occurs at all. I am hoping that this gets fixed, since a screenshot is an image, not a video, but it's still handy once you know where the thing actually ends up. The old PrtSc key hit to take a full screen screenshot and place it on the clipboard, and ALT + PrtSc to take a windowed screenshot and place it on the clipboard, have remained completely unchanged in Windows 10. But you then have to open some image manipulation program, and I typically use good, old-fashioned Paint, and paste from the clipboard and save the resulting image file in the format of your choosing. That's always been the case using this method, too. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. ~ Mark Twain
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Re: Taking a snapshot of an open program
Chris
Its alt+Print screen to take a snapshot of the currently focused window BUT it only copies the image to the clipboard, So you have to paste it into a imaging program like paint and save it It wont do it automatically like windows+print screen
From: Nino Dagostino
Sent: 19 June 2018 14:36 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Taking a snapshot of an open program
Good morning:
When I use the windows key and the printscreen keys windows10 puts a snapshot in the pictures saved images.
When the picture is taken it just takes a snapshot of the desktop I want it to take a snapshot of the program that I have open.
I am not sure what I am doing wrong.
Thank you.
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Re: Taking a snapshot of an open program
Mario
according to his post, Nino wants to take a snapshot of the program
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window. is there a way to just take a snapshot of the active window like it was possible with alt+prt sc in Windows 7?
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From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, Jun 19, 2018 9:44 AM EST To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Taking a snapshot of an open program WinKey + PrtSc takes a full screen screenshot and places it in the Pictures\Screenshots folder. It will take the screenshot of whatever arrangement is active on the screen at the time. If you want a specific program to be "front and center" then make sure you've placed focus on it via ALT+TAB and, possibly, maximized it if necessary. -- Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. ~ Mark Twain
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