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moderated Re: best way to read email with tables?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

OK, Thanks for the clarification, Sieghard.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 8:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best way to read email with tables?

 

Very strange, I also use the latest Jaws 2018 and Jaws Key+X toggles between “Off” and “Controls and Tables”. However, it only does this where it applies, e.g. if I press this in this message as I am writing/compiling it, it doe snothing, but when I pressed it after opening your message the toggle worked.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 8:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best way to read email with tables?

 

Hi, Sieghard. I am using the latest update of JAWS 2018. JAWS key plus X no longer does anything at all for me. It does not toggle smart navigation, and it does not give any announcement when pressed.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 8:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best way to read email with tables?

 

Make sure you have turned off smart navigation, you can do this permanently in Settings or just on the fly with Jaws Key+X.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 12:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best way to read email with tables?

 

When this gibberish happens to me, I close outlook and reopen and then it is ok

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 3:04 PM
To: JFW list (main@jfw.groups.io) <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: best way to read email with tables?

 

All,

As an example of the dilemma I am having, I was trying to read an email in Outlook 2010 containing my itinerary for an upcoming flight.   I needed to find my arrival time to give someone.  I wanted to arrow down through the email, but I kept hearing stuff like “nesting level 8” and really couldn’t find the information.  I seemed to find a lot on what you’d call the fine print of the email, but not the information that I’m guessing was presented in a table.  I also tried the Say All approach, hoping that would skip the clutter, but that didn’t’ work.   I turned off JAWS And went to Window Eyes where I was able to arrow down through the message with no extra clutter language and easily find the information I needed.   What could I do with JAWS to accomplish this?   I’m still very new to JAWS. 

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager

Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance

720-304-1060 | Robin_Van_Lant@...

 



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moderated Re: best way to read email with tables?

 

Very strange, I also use the latest Jaws 2018 and Jaws Key+X toggles between “Off” and “Controls and Tables”. However, it only does this where it applies, e.g. if I press this in this message as I am writing/compiling it, it doe snothing, but when I pressed it after opening your message the toggle worked.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 8:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best way to read email with tables?

 

Hi, Sieghard. I am using the latest update of JAWS 2018. JAWS key plus X no longer does anything at all for me. It does not toggle smart navigation, and it does not give any announcement when pressed.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 8:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best way to read email with tables?

 

Make sure you have turned off smart navigation, you can do this permanently in Settings or just on the fly with Jaws Key+X.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 12:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best way to read email with tables?

 

When this gibberish happens to me, I close outlook and reopen and then it is ok

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 3:04 PM
To: JFW list (main@jfw.groups.io) <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: best way to read email with tables?

 

All,

As an example of the dilemma I am having, I was trying to read an email in Outlook 2010 containing my itinerary for an upcoming flight.   I needed to find my arrival time to give someone.  I wanted to arrow down through the email, but I kept hearing stuff like “nesting level 8” and really couldn’t find the information.  I seemed to find a lot on what you’d call the fine print of the email, but not the information that I’m guessing was presented in a table.  I also tried the Say All approach, hoping that would skip the clutter, but that didn’t’ work.   I turned off JAWS And went to Window Eyes where I was able to arrow down through the message with no extra clutter language and easily find the information I needed.   What could I do with JAWS to accomplish this?   I’m still very new to JAWS. 

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager

Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance

720-304-1060 | Robin_Van_Lant@...

 



This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

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moderated JAWS and Google Chrome

Private Email
 

Hey Guys, I am a new group member and have a specific question about google chrome and jaws 2018.  I understand that Alt is supposed to take you to the menu bar however I seem to get stuck in the address edit box and am unable to get to that alt menu.  My main issue with this is trying to open my bookmarks so I can go to a certain page.  Anyone got any suggestions?  I am running JAWS 2018 and the latest version of chrome.  


moderated Re: best way to read email with tables?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Sieghard. I am using the latest update of JAWS 2018. JAWS key plus X no longer does anything at all for me. It does not toggle smart navigation, and it does not give any announcement when pressed.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 8:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best way to read email with tables?

 

Make sure you have turned off smart navigation, you can do this permanently in Settings or just on the fly with Jaws Key+X.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 12:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best way to read email with tables?

 

When this gibberish happens to me, I close outlook and reopen and then it is ok

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 3:04 PM
To: JFW list (main@jfw.groups.io) <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: best way to read email with tables?

 

All,

As an example of the dilemma I am having, I was trying to read an email in Outlook 2010 containing my itinerary for an upcoming flight.   I needed to find my arrival time to give someone.  I wanted to arrow down through the email, but I kept hearing stuff like “nesting level 8” and really couldn’t find the information.  I seemed to find a lot on what you’d call the fine print of the email, but not the information that I’m guessing was presented in a table.  I also tried the Say All approach, hoping that would skip the clutter, but that didn’t’ work.   I turned off JAWS And went to Window Eyes where I was able to arrow down through the message with no extra clutter language and easily find the information I needed.   What could I do with JAWS to accomplish this?   I’m still very new to JAWS. 

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager

Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance

720-304-1060 | Robin_Van_Lant@...

 



This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114


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moderated Re: best way to read email with tables?

 

Make sure you have turned off smart navigation, you can do this permanently in Settings or just on the fly with Jaws Key+X.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 12:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: best way to read email with tables?

 

When this gibberish happens to me, I close outlook and reopen and then it is ok

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 3:04 PM
To: JFW list (main@jfw.groups.io) <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: best way to read email with tables?

 

All,

As an example of the dilemma I am having, I was trying to read an email in Outlook 2010 containing my itinerary for an upcoming flight.   I needed to find my arrival time to give someone.  I wanted to arrow down through the email, but I kept hearing stuff like “nesting level 8” and really couldn’t find the information.  I seemed to find a lot on what you’d call the fine print of the email, but not the information that I’m guessing was presented in a table.  I also tried the Say All approach, hoping that would skip the clutter, but that didn’t’ work.   I turned off JAWS And went to Window Eyes where I was able to arrow down through the message with no extra clutter language and easily find the information I needed.   What could I do with JAWS to accomplish this?   I’m still very new to JAWS. 

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager

Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance

720-304-1060 | Robin_Van_Lant@...

 



This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114


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moderated Re: Total Recorder

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

I use the curnel mode driver, but I don't uncheck the filter mode driver either.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 1:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Total Recorder

Hi Bill:

I baught total recorder and tried to set it up the way they said and I cant get it to work.

What driver do you use?

Thank you.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 12:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Total Recorder

Hi, Amanda. I currently use Total Recorder for recording captured Internet streams. I am using Windows 10, and JAWS 2018. Specifically, I use Total Recorder Professional Edition for audio only. I don't turn off JAWS while recording. Instead, I start Total recorder, put in the link for the website for which I want to record the stream, press JAWS key plus SPACE, then S to turn speech off, then press ENTER to go to the website.

I know there is supposed to be a way to get Total Recorder to exclude JAWS from what it records, but this has not worked well for me. What happens when I try to do this is this. I follow the instructions for installing Total Recorder the way you're supposed to, to only install the Curnel mode driver. When I start Total recorder that way, it does not record JAWS. It also records the stream, when I can get it to play. Often, though, the stream will not play in this mode, plus, when I want to use WinAmp to play my music, the music won't play. This is why I just let JAWS record at the beginning, and edit JAWS off the beginning of the recording, after I have completed the recording.

I have used Total recorder for about eight years now, and although there have been bugs now and then, I am satisfied with its operation.

If you should decide to purchase Total Recorder Professional Edition, which is about $39, I would be happy to help you with the learning curve. I will send a private message to your gmail account with my telephone number. I hope the information I have provided may be of help to you.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amanda Berkley
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 9:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Total Recorder

I was wondering if anyone has experience with the Total Recorder application while using JFW? I currently have JFW 18 and was told that Total Recorder would be good for recording system sound. I see mention of screen reader users on their website, but wanted others opinions before making the purchase.

Thanks,
Amanda


moderated Re: Total Recorder

Nino Dagostino
 

Hi Bill:

I baught total recorder and tried to set it up the way they said and I cant get it to work.

What driver do you use?

Thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 12:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Total Recorder

Hi, Amanda. I currently use Total Recorder for recording captured Internet streams. I am using Windows 10, and JAWS 2018. Specifically, I use Total Recorder Professional Edition for audio only. I don't turn off JAWS while recording. Instead, I start Total recorder, put in the link for the website for which I want to record the stream, press JAWS key plus SPACE, then S to turn speech off, then press ENTER to go to the website.

I know there is supposed to be a way to get Total Recorder to exclude JAWS from what it records, but this has not worked well for me. What happens when I try to do this is this. I follow the instructions for installing Total Recorder the way you're supposed to, to only install the Curnel mode driver. When I start Total recorder that way, it does not record JAWS. It also records the stream, when I can get it to play. Often, though, the stream will not play in this mode, plus, when I want to use WinAmp to play my music, the music won't play. This is why I just let JAWS record at the beginning, and edit JAWS off the beginning of the recording, after I have completed the recording.

I have used Total recorder for about eight years now, and although there have been bugs now and then, I am satisfied with its operation.

If you should decide to purchase Total Recorder Professional Edition, which is about $39, I would be happy to help you with the learning curve. I will send a private message to your gmail account with my telephone number. I hope the information I have provided may be of help to you.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amanda Berkley
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 9:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Total Recorder

I was wondering if anyone has experience with the Total Recorder application while using JFW? I currently have JFW 18 and was told that Total Recorder would be good for recording system sound. I see mention of screen reader users on their website, but wanted others opinions before making the purchase.

Thanks,
Amanda


moderated Re: best way to read email with tables?

Alan Robbins
 

When this gibberish happens to me, I close outlook and reopen and then it is ok

 

Al

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 3:04 PM
To: JFW list (main@jfw.groups.io) <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: best way to read email with tables?

 

All,

As an example of the dilemma I am having, I was trying to read an email in Outlook 2010 containing my itinerary for an upcoming flight.   I needed to find my arrival time to give someone.  I wanted to arrow down through the email, but I kept hearing stuff like “nesting level 8” and really couldn’t find the information.  I seemed to find a lot on what you’d call the fine print of the email, but not the information that I’m guessing was presented in a table.  I also tried the Say All approach, hoping that would skip the clutter, but that didn’t’ work.   I turned off JAWS And went to Window Eyes where I was able to arrow down through the message with no extra clutter language and easily find the information I needed.   What could I do with JAWS to accomplish this?   I’m still very new to JAWS. 

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager

Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance

720-304-1060 | Robin_Van_Lant@...

 



This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114


If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key
send an e-mail to mailto:DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.


moderated best way to read email with tables?

Van Lant, Robin
 

All,

As an example of the dilemma I am having, I was trying to read an email in Outlook 2010 containing my itinerary for an upcoming flight.   I needed to find my arrival time to give someone.  I wanted to arrow down through the email, but I kept hearing stuff like “nesting level 8” and really couldn’t find the information.  I seemed to find a lot on what you’d call the fine print of the email, but not the information that I’m guessing was presented in a table.  I also tried the Say All approach, hoping that would skip the clutter, but that didn’t’ work.   I turned off JAWS And went to Window Eyes where I was able to arrow down through the message with no extra clutter language and easily find the information I needed.   What could I do with JAWS to accomplish this?   I’m still very new to JAWS. 

 

 

 

 

Robin Van Lant | Sr. Program Manager

Strategy & Performance Management | Key Equipment Finance

720-304-1060 | Robin_Van_Lant@...

 



This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114


If you prefer not to receive future e-mail offers for products or services from Key
send an e-mail to mailto:DNERequests@... with 'No Promotional E-mails' in the SUBJECT line.


moderated Re: Update On Outlook 2016 e-mail Attachment Issue

 

I now use Windows 10 exclusively although I wish I had stuck with Windows 7 at my retail store. But that is a different topic, the point is that attaching files by copying and pasting has never caused me problems and it has never made OUtlook crash even in Windows 7. I remember at some point I couldn’t use Control+Y and some other shortcuts, but attaching files this way has always worked flawlessly.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 4:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Update On Outlook 2016 e-mail Attachment Issue

 

Sieghard:

 

Are you using Windows 10 or Windows 7?

 

I’m using Windows 7 here with a Dell Lattitude laptop.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 11:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Update On Outlook 2016 e-mail Attachment Issue

 

I have 5 PC’s, 4 are desktops and at home I have a laptop and my Outlook never crashes when I attach one or multiple files. Not sure why this happens on your machine, it’s also not something I have come across on the various lists I am on and that includes the Jaws beta list.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 1:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; 'jfw list' <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: Update On Outlook 2016 e-mail Attachment Issue

 

No issues with NVDA…

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Donnerstag, 7. Juni 2018 20:47
To: 'jfw list' <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Update On Outlook 2016 e-mail Attachment Issue

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I just installed the latest build of Jaws 2018—version 1805.33, and I am now able to attach documents to an e-mail at least some of the time.

 

What I mean is that the process works, but not consistently.

 

I have tried the various suggestions I have been given for attaching files, and they all seem to work at least most of the time.

 

However, there still are some times when Outlook e-mail completely crashes, irrespective of the attachment method I use.

 

My next steps will likely be to see what happens with either NVDA or Narrator to help determine if this is a Jaws issue.

 

Will keep everyone posted.

 

Once again, I’m using Outlook 2016 with Office 365 here, along with Jaws 2018 on this windows 7 computer.

 

Tom Behler

 

 


moderated Re: Total Recorder

Amanda Berkley
 

Which version would I need if I just want to record something through
windows media player or iTunes, and want the recording to auto cut off
when the track is over?

Thanks

On 6/8/18, Ray T. Mahorney via Groups.Io
<mahorney.r.t=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
can you put JAWS on another sound device. I run JAWS on a stand alone device

with TR and do not encounter these problems. I also use it as a soundbite
editor. The thing I like about total recorder is that it does not
destructively edit mp3 files. It appears to do direct conversion rather than

converting to wave from mp3 and back to mp3. It's a good program. You should

have no difficulty with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 00:57
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Total Recorder

Hi, Amanda. I currently use Total Recorder for recording captured Internet
streams. I am using Windows 10, and JAWS 2018. Specifically, I use Total
Recorder Professional Edition for audio only. I don't turn off JAWS while
recording. Instead, I start Total recorder, put in the link for the website

for which I want to record the stream, press JAWS key plus SPACE, then S to

turn speech off, then press ENTER to go to the website.

I know there is supposed to be a way to get Total Recorder to exclude JAWS
from what it records, but this has not worked well for me. What happens when

I try to do this is this. I follow the instructions for installing Total
Recorder the way you're supposed to, to only install the Curnel mode driver.

When I start Total recorder that way, it does not record JAWS. It also
records the stream, when I can get it to play. Often, though, the stream
will not play in this mode, plus, when I want to use WinAmp to play my
music, the music won't play. This is why I just let JAWS record at the
beginning, and edit JAWS off the beginning of the recording, after I have
completed the recording.

I have used Total recorder for about eight years now, and although there
have been bugs now and then, I am satisfied with its operation.

If you should decide to purchase Total Recorder Professional Edition, which

is about $39, I would be happy to help you with the learning curve. I will
send a private message to your gmail account with my telephone number. I
hope the information I have provided may be of help to you.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amanda
Berkley
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 9:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Total Recorder

I was wondering if anyone has experience with the Total Recorder
application while using JFW? I currently have JFW 18 and was told that
Total Recorder would be good for recording system sound. I see mention
of screen reader users on their website, but wanted others opinions
before making the purchase.

Thanks,
Amanda










Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA





moderated Re: Total Recorder

Ray T. Mahorney
 

can you put JAWS on another sound device. I run JAWS on a stand alone device with TR and do not encounter these problems. I also use it as a soundbite editor. The thing I like about total recorder is that it does not destructively edit mp3 files. It appears to do direct conversion rather than converting to wave from mp3 and back to mp3. It's a good program. You should have no difficulty with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 00:57
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Total Recorder

Hi, Amanda. I currently use Total Recorder for recording captured Internet streams. I am using Windows 10, and JAWS 2018. Specifically, I use Total Recorder Professional Edition for audio only. I don't turn off JAWS while recording. Instead, I start Total recorder, put in the link for the website for which I want to record the stream, press JAWS key plus SPACE, then S to turn speech off, then press ENTER to go to the website.

I know there is supposed to be a way to get Total Recorder to exclude JAWS from what it records, but this has not worked well for me. What happens when I try to do this is this. I follow the instructions for installing Total Recorder the way you're supposed to, to only install the Curnel mode driver. When I start Total recorder that way, it does not record JAWS. It also records the stream, when I can get it to play. Often, though, the stream will not play in this mode, plus, when I want to use WinAmp to play my music, the music won't play. This is why I just let JAWS record at the beginning, and edit JAWS off the beginning of the recording, after I have completed the recording.

I have used Total recorder for about eight years now, and although there have been bugs now and then, I am satisfied with its operation.

If you should decide to purchase Total Recorder Professional Edition, which is about $39, I would be happy to help you with the learning curve. I will send a private message to your gmail account with my telephone number. I hope the information I have provided may be of help to you.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amanda Berkley
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 9:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Total Recorder

I was wondering if anyone has experience with the Total Recorder
application while using JFW? I currently have JFW 18 and was told that
Total Recorder would be good for recording system sound. I see mention
of screen reader users on their website, but wanted others opinions
before making the purchase.

Thanks,
Amanda










Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


moderated Re: Update On Outlook 2016 e-mail Attachment Issue

Tom Behler
 

Sieghard:

 

Are you using Windows 10 or Windows 7?

 

I’m using Windows 7 here with a Dell Lattitude laptop.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2018 11:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Update On Outlook 2016 e-mail Attachment Issue

 

I have 5 PC’s, 4 are desktops and at home I have a laptop and my Outlook never crashes when I attach one or multiple files. Not sure why this happens on your machine, it’s also not something I have come across on the various lists I am on and that includes the Jaws beta list.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 1:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; 'jfw list' <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: Update On Outlook 2016 e-mail Attachment Issue

 

No issues with NVDA…

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Donnerstag, 7. Juni 2018 20:47
To: 'jfw list' <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Update On Outlook 2016 e-mail Attachment Issue

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I just installed the latest build of Jaws 2018—version 1805.33, and I am now able to attach documents to an e-mail at least some of the time.

 

What I mean is that the process works, but not consistently.

 

I have tried the various suggestions I have been given for attaching files, and they all seem to work at least most of the time.

 

However, there still are some times when Outlook e-mail completely crashes, irrespective of the attachment method I use.

 

My next steps will likely be to see what happens with either NVDA or Narrator to help determine if this is a Jaws issue.

 

Will keep everyone posted.

 

Once again, I’m using Outlook 2016 with Office 365 here, along with Jaws 2018 on this windows 7 computer.

 

Tom Behler

 

 


moderated Re: Total Recorder

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, John. When I first got my computer, about 14 months ago, I tried going
the second soundcard route. It didn't work for me. I use Windows 10, and I
kept having the problem of losing my soundcard drivers. Without soundcard
drivers, and being totally blind, I was lost. I live by myself, and I
couldn't even use speech to reinstall the drivers for the soundcard.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 10:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Total Recorder

I solved the problem of Jaws getting in the way by getting a hardware
synth for Jaws. Or you could get a second sound card just for jaws.

On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 00:57:24 -0400,
Bill White wrote:

Hi, Amanda. I currently use Total Recorder for recording captured Internet
streams. I am using Windows 10, and JAWS 2018. Specifically, I use Total
Recorder Professional Edition for audio only. I don't turn off JAWS while
recording. Instead, I start Total recorder, put in the link for the website
for which I want to record the stream, press JAWS key plus SPACE, then S to
turn speech off, then press ENTER to go to the website.

I know there is supposed to be a way to get Total Recorder to exclude JAWS
from what it records, but this has not worked well for me. What happens when
I try to do this is this. I follow the instructions for installing Total
Recorder the way you're supposed to, to only install the Curnel mode driver.
When I start Total recorder that way, it does not record JAWS. It also
records the stream, when I can get it to play. Often, though, the stream
will not play in this mode, plus, when I want to use WinAmp to play my
music, the music won't play. This is why I just let JAWS record at the
beginning, and edit JAWS off the beginning of the recording, after I have
completed the recording.

I have used Total recorder for about eight years now, and although there
have been bugs now and then, I am satisfied with its operation.

If you should decide to purchase Total Recorder Professional Edition,
which is about $39, I would be happy to help you with the learning curve. I
will send a private message to your gmail account with my telephone number.
I hope the information I have provided may be of help to you.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amanda
Berkley
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 9:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Total Recorder

I was wondering if anyone has experience with the Total Recorder
application while using JFW? I currently have JFW 18 and was told that
Total Recorder would be good for recording system sound. I see mention
of screen reader users on their website, but wanted others opinions
before making the purchase.

Thanks,
Amanda









--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Total Recorder

John Covici
 

I solved the problem of Jaws getting in the way by getting a hardware
synth for Jaws. Or you could get a second sound card just for jaws.

On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 00:57:24 -0400,
Bill White wrote:

Hi, Amanda. I currently use Total Recorder for recording captured Internet streams. I am using Windows 10, and JAWS 2018. Specifically, I use Total Recorder Professional Edition for audio only. I don't turn off JAWS while recording. Instead, I start Total recorder, put in the link for the website for which I want to record the stream, press JAWS key plus SPACE, then S to turn speech off, then press ENTER to go to the website.

I know there is supposed to be a way to get Total Recorder to exclude JAWS from what it records, but this has not worked well for me. What happens when I try to do this is this. I follow the instructions for installing Total Recorder the way you're supposed to, to only install the Curnel mode driver. When I start Total recorder that way, it does not record JAWS. It also records the stream, when I can get it to play. Often, though, the stream will not play in this mode, plus, when I want to use WinAmp to play my music, the music won't play. This is why I just let JAWS record at the beginning, and edit JAWS off the beginning of the recording, after I have completed the recording.

I have used Total recorder for about eight years now, and although there have been bugs now and then, I am satisfied with its operation.

If you should decide to purchase Total Recorder Professional Edition, which is about $39, I would be happy to help you with the learning curve. I will send a private message to your gmail account with my telephone number. I hope the information I have provided may be of help to you.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amanda Berkley
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 9:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Total Recorder

I was wondering if anyone has experience with the Total Recorder
application while using JFW? I currently have JFW 18 and was told that
Total Recorder would be good for recording system sound. I see mention
of screen reader users on their website, but wanted others opinions
before making the purchase.

Thanks,
Amanda









--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com


moderated Re: Total Recorder

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Amanda. I currently use Total Recorder for recording captured Internet streams. I am using Windows 10, and JAWS 2018. Specifically, I use Total Recorder Professional Edition for audio only. I don't turn off JAWS while recording. Instead, I start Total recorder, put in the link for the website for which I want to record the stream, press JAWS key plus SPACE, then S to turn speech off, then press ENTER to go to the website.

I know there is supposed to be a way to get Total Recorder to exclude JAWS from what it records, but this has not worked well for me. What happens when I try to do this is this. I follow the instructions for installing Total Recorder the way you're supposed to, to only install the Curnel mode driver. When I start Total recorder that way, it does not record JAWS. It also records the stream, when I can get it to play. Often, though, the stream will not play in this mode, plus, when I want to use WinAmp to play my music, the music won't play. This is why I just let JAWS record at the beginning, and edit JAWS off the beginning of the recording, after I have completed the recording.

I have used Total recorder for about eight years now, and although there have been bugs now and then, I am satisfied with its operation.

If you should decide to purchase Total Recorder Professional Edition, which is about $39, I would be happy to help you with the learning curve. I will send a private message to your gmail account with my telephone number. I hope the information I have provided may be of help to you.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amanda Berkley
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 9:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Total Recorder

I was wondering if anyone has experience with the Total Recorder
application while using JFW? I currently have JFW 18 and was told that
Total Recorder would be good for recording system sound. I see mention
of screen reader users on their website, but wanted others opinions
before making the purchase.

Thanks,
Amanda


moderated Total Recorder

Amanda Berkley
 

I was wondering if anyone has experience with the Total Recorder
application while using JFW? I currently have JFW 18 and was told that
Total Recorder would be good for recording system sound. I see mention
of screen reader users on their website, but wanted others opinions
before making the purchase.

Thanks,
Amanda


moderated Re: Update On Outlook 2016 e-mail Attachment Issue

 

I have 5 PC’s, 4 are desktops and at home I have a laptop and my Outlook never crashes when I attach one or multiple files. Not sure why this happens on your machine, it’s also not something I have come across on the various lists I am on and that includes the Jaws beta list.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 1:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; 'jfw list' <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Re: Update On Outlook 2016 e-mail Attachment Issue

 

No issues with NVDA…

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Donnerstag, 7. Juni 2018 20:47
To: 'jfw list' <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Update On Outlook 2016 e-mail Attachment Issue

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I just installed the latest build of Jaws 2018—version 1805.33, and I am now able to attach documents to an e-mail at least some of the time.

 

What I mean is that the process works, but not consistently.

 

I have tried the various suggestions I have been given for attaching files, and they all seem to work at least most of the time.

 

However, there still are some times when Outlook e-mail completely crashes, irrespective of the attachment method I use.

 

My next steps will likely be to see what happens with either NVDA or Narrator to help determine if this is a Jaws issue.

 

Will keep everyone posted.

 

Once again, I’m using Outlook 2016 with Office 365 here, along with Jaws 2018 on this windows 7 computer.

 

Tom Behler

 

 


moderated Re: CTRL+NumPad Star and Firefox versus Chrome

Cristóbal
 

That sort of tab behavior is something that has to do with the browser settings if I remember correctly. I’m not a  Chrome user, but I’m pretty sure there are a few checkboxes having to do with it in Firefox.

Sometimes when a link is acting funky, I’ll tab once or twice to make sure Jaws is on the right link. Maybe turn off the virtual cursor and do the same and or use the Jaws cursor and mouse click on it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 5:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: CTRL+NumPad Star and Firefox versus Chrome

 

Nermin,

          Using NVDA, which is all I have at hand, CTRL+ENTER works beautifully to force a link that has focus to open in a new tab.  It does not, however, force the focus to move from the originating tab to the newly open browsing tab.

          That being said, CTRL+TAB can be used to change focus to the next (rightward) browsing tab and CTRL+SHIFT+TAB to do the same for the previous (leftward) browsing tab.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: CTRL+NumPad Star and Firefox versus Chrome

 

Nermin,

          Using NVDA, which is all I have at hand, CTRL+ENTER works beautifully to force a link that has focus to open in a new tab.  It does not, however, force the focus to move from the originating tab to the newly open browsing tab.

          That being said, CTRL+TAB can be used to change focus to the next (rightward) browsing tab and CTRL+SHIFT+TAB to do the same for the previous (leftward) browsing tab.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain