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moderated Re: Winamp documentation

Steve Matzura
 

What is it about Winamp that you need to know that's not covered in the JAWS help topic for it?


On 5/25/2018 6:15 AM, Nino Dagostino wrote:

Good morning:

 

Does anybody know where I can get a Winamp manual in document form?

 

Thank you very mutch

 

 

 



moderated Winamp or another program

Nino Dagostino
 

Good morning:

 

M y tutor wants me to lesson to some audio files.

 

What she want me to do is to mark the spot in the audio file that I am haveint trouble with.

 

If you folks think there is another program that would work better just let me know.

 

Thank you for all of your help.

 

 


moderated Winamp documentation

Nino Dagostino
 

Good morning:

 

Does anybody know where I can get a Winamp manual in document form?

 

Thank you very mutch

 

 

 


moderated Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

 

Thanks CathyAnne.

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     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

Dan Longmore
 

The windows update has caused a longer time to reach sign in screen, for me, I have found that Fast Startup being on has not hindered and I seemed to have more trouble with it off. At times you may have to repair JAWS after a major Windows update.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 4:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

Hi Sieghard,

Should fast startup be on or off. Sometimes Jaws speaks, sometimes it doesn't when cold booting. Also, since updating to the Spring Creators update, it seems to take longer for me to get to the sign-in screen. Right now, fast startup is on. Thanks.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

Are you sure you have turned off fast startup, most of the time when Jaws doesn't speak at the login screen that one is to blame. I have 4 desktop PC's and a laptop and Jaws speaks just fine at startup and the Windows startup sounds oplays consistently.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of paul lemm
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 3:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

Hi,

I had the same problem, it ended up becoming really annoying , so I disabled password at log in. if you're happy to remove the password at log in, it can be done. on older builds of windows there used to be a option in user settings to disable password, but for some reason that’s gone in the latest windows versions. because of not having speech at the log in with jaws I googled around for a solution, I found a few websites all suggesting this as a fix, bring up start and type netplwiz, and hit enter , or bring up the run command and type it there and press enter, it will then bring up a window where you can amend whether windows asks for a password or not. I gave this ago and it worked fine for me and allowed me to disable password at log in and now takes me straight to the desktop when I first turn on my PC.

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: 23 May 2018 15:34
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

Hi,
I’m not sure if this has been covered before. At my work, I have 15 computers in a lab, all running Windows 10, with JAWS 2018 and/or Fusion 2018. They are all networked and all log into a domain. When cold booting them, , The lock screens and login screens don’t always speak in spite of Jaws or Fusion being told to start at login. This is a royal pain both for me, and especially for my students who are new to using computers with Jaws. Is there a way to dispense with lock screens altogether and just go straight to a login prompt that will consistently speak?? Our local IT guys say no. What say you?
Best regards,
Tom


moderated Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

Dan Longmore
 

For me I leave it on as turning off has caused some JAWS issues at start up.

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 5:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

 

Fast start should be off to totally shut the computer down like in Windows seven!

David Moore

    Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Les Kriegler
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 4:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

 

Hi Sieghard,

 

Should fast startup be on or off.  Sometimes Jaws speaks, sometimes it doesn't when cold booting.  Also, since updating to the Spring Creators update, it seems to take longer for me to get to the sign-in screen.  Right now, fast startup is on.  Thanks.

 

Les

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:53 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

 

Are you sure you have turned off fast startup, most of the time when Jaws doesn't speak at the login screen that one is to blame. I have 4 desktop PC's and a laptop and Jaws speaks just fine at startup and the Windows startup sounds oplays consistently.

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of paul lemm

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 3:21 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

 

Hi,

 

I had the same problem, it ended up becoming  really annoying , so I disabled password at log in. if you're happy to remove the password at log in, it can be done. on older builds of windows there used to be a option in user settings to disable password, but for some reason that’s gone in the latest windows versions. because of not having speech at the log in with jaws I googled around for a solution, I found a few websites all suggesting this  as a fix, bring up start and type netplwiz, and hit enter , or bring up the run command  and type it there and press enter, it will then bring up a window where you can amend whether windows asks  for a password or not. I gave this ago and it worked fine for me and allowed me to disable password at log in and now takes me straight to the desktop when I first turn on my PC.

 

Paul

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Lange

Sent: 23 May 2018 15:34

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

 

Hi,

I’m not sure if this has been covered before. At my work, I have 15 computers in a lab, all running Windows 10, with JAWS 2018 and/or Fusion 2018. They are all networked and all log into a domain. When cold booting them, , The lock screens and login screens don’t always speak in spite of Jaws or Fusion being told to  start at login. This is a royal pain both for me, and especially for my students who are new to using computers with Jaws.  Is there a way to dispense with lock screens altogether and just go straight to a login prompt that will consistently speak?? Our local IT guys say no. What say you?

Best regards,

Tom

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

CathyAnne Murtha <cathy@...>
 

You can do this using the “Say All” Scheme of the JAWS for Windows Quick Settings.

 

  1. Open the browser and focus on the page  you’d like to read
  2. Open JAWS for Windows Quick Settings (JAWS KEY-V)
  3. In the search-edit field, input ”Scheme” without the quotes. This searches for the “Say All” scheme
  4. Within the search results, focus on the first “Scheme” result. This is the Scheme for “Say All”
  5. Rotor among the options with SPACEBAR. You want to focus on “Say All Text Only”
  6. Navigate to the OK button and activate it to save the changes

 

You can now read the web page without link notifications. 

 

Return to the standard link echo by repeating the steps above but select “No Change.”

 

 

CathyAnne

 

 

CathyAnne Murtha

Access Technology Institute, LLC

cathy@...

www.blind.training

(520) 300-7859

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

 

Thank you to everyone who has replied, and may be yet to reply, for giving a range of options to address this issue.

I certainly wouldn't have known about any of them otherwise.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

 

Thank you to everyone who has replied, and may be yet to reply, for giving a range of options to address this issue.

I certainly wouldn't have known about any of them otherwise.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

Douglas C. DeCamp
 

The web-rent-a-crowd scheme will acomphlish  the desired result here if you don’t mind the various voices it uses for headings & links.  I personally have always preferred this sound scheme and have used it for years.

  • Hth ---

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

 

Hi, James. I don’t think Flexible Web would work in this instance. Flexible Web is for telling JAWS which sections of a web page to display. It doesn’t change which elements of that page will be announced, or how they are to be announced.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 7:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

 

Hi Brian,

This might be a long shot, but would flexable web work in this instants?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 6:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

 

Steve,

            Thanks very much.  Even if it's only for Say All that's really the only circumstance I'm concerned about since you can start and stop Say All at will.

             I figured there had to be some way to do this, as there are many pages, including many newspapers, where if all you wanted to do was get a read through of an article as though you were reading the actual newspaper you'd want to turn link announcements off during that reading.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: Braille input using a Braille Edge 40

John Gurd
 

Hi Richard

I don’t have the Braille Edge but with the Focus displays there is no special command for input and I’d be surprised if one was needed for the Edge.

 

John

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 24 May 2018 14:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Braille input using a Braille Edge 40

 

Hi,

I have not used braille input since I am relatively new to Jaws, as of the end of Window-Eyes…

I think I have the braille settings correct.  I have it to UEB Grade 2 input and output.

But, when I try to write in a Word 2016 document, I end up bringing up all kinds of Jaws options instead of inputting text.

Is there a command that needs to precede inputting from a braille display?

 

Thanks for any help,

Richard

 

 

 

 

“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

 


moderated Re: Braille Translation Errors

John Gurd
 

Thanks Randy

You will only see the ‘little’ error if you switch to UK English grade 2 – which, of course, in the US would be silly. J

 

John

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Meyer
Sent: 24 May 2018 15:52
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Braille Translation Errors

 

John:

 

You are correct, this is not a hardware problem.  The Braille translation tables will need to be updated, which is not directly in the control of VFO.

 

I experienced a similar error that was eventually corrected, and I am experiencing the first two errors you mentioned, but not the error with little.

 

Randy Meyer

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Gurd via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 1:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Braille Translation Errors

 

If it is what I think it is it will affect any braille device that uses the Liblious 3.3  and 3.5 Braille translation tables which are open source. I don’t think it is the hardware as such, although I could be wrong, I think it is VFO’s decision to use the Liblious translation table in Jaws. In theory it was a good decision as long as the tables are correctly implemented. It affects the Focus displays but should affect others that use this open source table.

 

John

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Tessore
Sent: 24 May 2018 00:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Braille Translation Errors

 

Sorry to hear this John. And I am sorry to have to say I don’t know, because I am not a Focus refresh a bowl braille display or El Braille User. However, perhaps the focus 40 generation  5 will resolve that problem. Of course, if you are using a focus 14, then I guess that unless Freedom Scientific comes out with a corresponding version of the 14 cell refreshable braille device, then that   won’t help either. Shalom,

 

Bill Tessore

 

 


On May 23, 2018, at 3:10 PM, John Gurd via Groups.Io <j.gurd@...> wrote:

It occurs in my ElBraille and using a Focus 40 with my PC. I know of another person with the same issues. Someone who works with the Liblious project confirmed there was an issue some months ago with 3.3. but I was hoping it would be fixed in Liblious 3.5.0. I just wonder why it doesn’t come up: are people finding work-arounds or just not using UEB grade 2 as an input method. Maybe no one is experiencing it. I’d like to know.

 

John

 

 

John

 

 

John

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Tessore
Sent: 23 May 2018 21:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Braille Translation Errors

 

John, are you using a refreshable braille display, or an ElBraille? Or are
 You reading something written by someone using one of these? Shalom,

Bill tessore

 


On May 23, 2018, at 1:27 PM, John Gurd via Groups.Io <j.gurd@...> wrote:

I got really excited when I read Jaws has the new LIBLOUIS available. Sadly, the strrange translation issues I  was hoping would be fixed relating to UEB English are still there. And there are two in UK English grade 2. It makes me wonder why noone else appears to be picking them up? Does everyone else input in Computer Braille? I really would like to know if this is the case as maybe I should learn to do that too because these errors are quite big and long-standing.

 

So the word ‘first’ comes out as first's  if you use the contraction f and st sign. The word it’s comes out as x’s if you use the letter x with apostrophe s.

 

In UK English grade 2 anything with a double L comes out with the word little in it. So ball becomes balittle and so on. Strangely the word ‘first’ translates fine but the word ‘it’s’ has the same error.  I would really like to hear if anyone experiences this? It only happens if contracted input is used so if everyone is using computer Braille for input and UEB or UK English for display they will not see it.

 

Thanks.

John

 


moderated Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, James. I don’t think Flexible Web would work in this instance. Flexible Web is for telling JAWS which sections of a web page to display. It doesn’t change which elements of that page will be announced, or how they are to be announced.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Malone
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 7:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

 

Hi Brian,

This might be a long shot, but would flexable web work in this instants?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 6:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

 

Steve,

            Thanks very much.  Even if it's only for Say All that's really the only circumstance I'm concerned about since you can start and stop Say All at will.

             I figured there had to be some way to do this, as there are many pages, including many newspapers, where if all you wanted to do was get a read through of an article as though you were reading the actual newspaper you'd want to turn link announcements off during that reading.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I think the answer here are reader modes such as are available on iOS or in the Edge browser and also with extensions like “Just Read” in Chrome. I assume Firefox mahy have them as well. These are supposed to just present the text of an article without any interruptive links and other stuff.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 6:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

 

Steve,

            Thanks very much.  Even if it's only for Say All that's really the only circumstance I'm concerned about since you can start and stop Say All at will.

             I figured there had to be some way to do this, as there are many pages, including many newspapers, where if all you wanted to do was get a read through of an article as though you were reading the actual newspaper you'd want to turn link announcements off during that reading.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I can’t remember when it was introduced, probably in Jaws 16 or so, if you go back through the list of FS Casts you’ll find one which goes over it and of course there is documentation in the Jaws help topics.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 8:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

 

James, the "flexible web" feature is something I have never heard of and have no familiarity with.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

Cristóbal
 

My scheme is “say all with sounds”. Instead of the word “link” being announced for every link, there’s a slight and unobtrusive click noise indicating that a link is present.

My only complain about this particular scheme is that there’s no differentiating sound for visited links. Otherwise, it works for me.

TO quickly switch between schemes, I use the Jaws command alt plus insert plus S to bring up the associated combo box. I know you can go into the Jaws settings to really dig deep into schemes, but bleh.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 6:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

 

Steve,

            Thanks very much.  Even if it's only for Say All that's really the only circumstance I'm concerned about since you can start and stop Say All at will.

             I figured there had to be some way to do this, as there are many pages, including many newspapers, where if all you wanted to do was get a read through of an article as though you were reading the actual newspaper you'd want to turn link announcements off during that reading.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

I would definitely disable fast startup.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

 

Hi,

Actually, it’ll depend on your needs. Both Windows 8.x and 10 will let you enable or disable fast startup (technically known as hybrid boot).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 5:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

 

What about Windows 10.  I Have the Pro Edition.

 

Les

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 5:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

 

Fast start should be off to totally shut the computer down like in Windows seven!

David Moore

    Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Les Kriegler
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 4:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

 

Hi Sieghard,

 

Should fast startup be on or off.  Sometimes Jaws speaks, sometimes it doesn't when cold booting.  Also, since updating to the Spring Creators update, it seems to take longer for me to get to the sign-in screen.  Right now, fast startup is on.  Thanks.

 

Les

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:53 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

 

Are you sure you have turned off fast startup, most of the time when Jaws doesn't speak at the login screen that one is to blame. I have 4 desktop PC's and a laptop and Jaws speaks just fine at startup and the Windows startup sounds oplays consistently.

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of paul lemm

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 3:21 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

 

Hi,

 

I had the same problem, it ended up becoming  really annoying , so I disabled password at log in. if you're happy to remove the password at log in, it can be done. on older builds of windows there used to be a option in user settings to disable password, but for some reason that’s gone in the latest windows versions. because of not having speech at the log in with jaws I googled around for a solution, I found a few websites all suggesting this  as a fix, bring up start and type netplwiz, and hit enter , or bring up the run command  and type it there and press enter, it will then bring up a window where you can amend whether windows asks  for a password or not. I gave this ago and it worked fine for me and allowed me to disable password at log in and now takes me straight to the desktop when I first turn on my PC.

 

Paul

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Lange

Sent: 23 May 2018 15:34

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

 

Hi,

I’m not sure if this has been covered before. At my work, I have 15 computers in a lab, all running Windows 10, with JAWS 2018 and/or Fusion 2018. They are all networked and all log into a domain. When cold booting them, , The lock screens and login screens don’t always speak in spite of Jaws or Fusion being told to  start at login. This is a royal pain both for me, and especially for my students who are new to using computers with Jaws.  Is there a way to dispense with lock screens altogether and just go straight to a login prompt that will consistently speak?? Our local IT guys say no. What say you?

Best regards,

Tom

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

 

Hi,

Actually, it’ll depend on your needs. Both Windows 8.x and 10 will let you enable or disable fast startup (technically known as hybrid boot).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 5:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

 

What about Windows 10.  I Have the Pro Edition.

 

Les

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 5:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

 

Fast start should be off to totally shut the computer down like in Windows seven!

David Moore

    Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Les Kriegler
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 4:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

 

Hi Sieghard,

 

Should fast startup be on or off.  Sometimes Jaws speaks, sometimes it doesn't when cold booting.  Also, since updating to the Spring Creators update, it seems to take longer for me to get to the sign-in screen.  Right now, fast startup is on.  Thanks.

 

Les

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:53 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

 

Are you sure you have turned off fast startup, most of the time when Jaws doesn't speak at the login screen that one is to blame. I have 4 desktop PC's and a laptop and Jaws speaks just fine at startup and the Windows startup sounds oplays consistently.

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of paul lemm

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 3:21 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

 

Hi,

 

I had the same problem, it ended up becoming  really annoying , so I disabled password at log in. if you're happy to remove the password at log in, it can be done. on older builds of windows there used to be a option in user settings to disable password, but for some reason that’s gone in the latest windows versions. because of not having speech at the log in with jaws I googled around for a solution, I found a few websites all suggesting this  as a fix, bring up start and type netplwiz, and hit enter , or bring up the run command  and type it there and press enter, it will then bring up a window where you can amend whether windows asks  for a password or not. I gave this ago and it worked fine for me and allowed me to disable password at log in and now takes me straight to the desktop when I first turn on my PC.

 

Paul

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Lange

Sent: 23 May 2018 15:34

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

 

Hi,

I’m not sure if this has been covered before. At my work, I have 15 computers in a lab, all running Windows 10, with JAWS 2018 and/or Fusion 2018. They are all networked and all log into a domain. When cold booting them, , The lock screens and login screens don’t always speak in spite of Jaws or Fusion being told to  start at login. This is a royal pain both for me, and especially for my students who are new to using computers with Jaws.  Is there a way to dispense with lock screens altogether and just go straight to a login prompt that will consistently speak?? Our local IT guys say no. What say you?

Best regards,

Tom

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

 

James, the "flexible web" feature is something I have never heard of and have no familiarity with.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

James Malone
 

Hi Brian,

This might be a long shot, but would flexable web work in this instants?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 6:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

 

Steve,

            Thanks very much.  Even if it's only for Say All that's really the only circumstance I'm concerned about since you can start and stop Say All at will.

             I figured there had to be some way to do this, as there are many pages, including many newspapers, where if all you wanted to do was get a read through of an article as though you were reading the actual newspaper you'd want to turn link announcements off during that reading.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: Braille Translation Errors

Randy Meyer
 

John:

 

You are correct, this is not a hardware problem.  The Braille translation tables will need to be updated, which is not directly in the control of VFO.

 

I experienced a similar error that was eventually corrected, and I am experiencing the first two errors you mentioned, but not the error with little.

 

Randy Meyer

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Gurd via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 1:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Braille Translation Errors

 

If it is what I think it is it will affect any braille device that uses the Liblious 3.3  and 3.5 Braille translation tables which are open source. I don’t think it is the hardware as such, although I could be wrong, I think it is VFO’s decision to use the Liblious translation table in Jaws. In theory it was a good decision as long as the tables are correctly implemented. It affects the Focus displays but should affect others that use this open source table.

 

John

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Tessore
Sent: 24 May 2018 00:10
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Braille Translation Errors

 

Sorry to hear this John. And I am sorry to have to say I don’t know, because I am not a Focus refresh a bowl braille display or El Braille User. However, perhaps the focus 40 generation  5 will resolve that problem. Of course, if you are using a focus 14, then I guess that unless Freedom Scientific comes out with a corresponding version of the 14 cell refreshable braille device, then that   won’t help either. Shalom,

 

Bill Tessore

 

 


On May 23, 2018, at 3:10 PM, John Gurd via Groups.Io <j.gurd@...> wrote:

It occurs in my ElBraille and using a Focus 40 with my PC. I know of another person with the same issues. Someone who works with the Liblious project confirmed there was an issue some months ago with 3.3. but I was hoping it would be fixed in Liblious 3.5.0. I just wonder why it doesn’t come up: are people finding work-arounds or just not using UEB grade 2 as an input method. Maybe no one is experiencing it. I’d like to know.

 

John

 

 

John

 

 

John

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill Tessore
Sent: 23 May 2018 21:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Braille Translation Errors

 

John, are you using a refreshable braille display, or an ElBraille? Or are
 You reading something written by someone using one of these? Shalom,

Bill tessore

 


On May 23, 2018, at 1:27 PM, John Gurd via Groups.Io <j.gurd@...> wrote:

I got really excited when I read Jaws has the new LIBLOUIS available. Sadly, the strrange translation issues I  was hoping would be fixed relating to UEB English are still there. And there are two in UK English grade 2. It makes me wonder why noone else appears to be picking them up? Does everyone else input in Computer Braille? I really would like to know if this is the case as maybe I should learn to do that too because these errors are quite big and long-standing.

 

So the word ‘first’ comes out as first's  if you use the contraction f and st sign. The word it’s comes out as x’s if you use the letter x with apostrophe s.

 

In UK English grade 2 anything with a double L comes out with the word little in it. So ball becomes balittle and so on. Strangely the word ‘first’ translates fine but the word ‘it’s’ has the same error.  I would really like to hear if anyone experiences this? It only happens if contracted input is used so if everyone is using computer Braille for input and UEB or UK English for display they will not see it.

 

Thanks.

John