Good morning:

 

Does anybody know where I can get a Winamp manual in document form?

 

Thank you very mutch

 

 

 

Fast start should be off to totally shut the computer down like in Windows seven!

David Moore

    Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hi Sieghard,

Should fast startup be on or off.  Sometimes Jaws speaks, sometimes it doesn't when cold booting.  Also, since updating to the Spring Creators update, it seems to take longer for me to get to the sign-in screen.  Right now, fast startup is on.  Thanks.

Les

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:53 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

Are you sure you have turned off fast startup, most of the time when Jaws doesn't speak at the login screen that one is to blame. I have 4 desktop PC's and a laptop and Jaws speaks just fine at startup and the Windows startup sounds oplays consistently.

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of paul lemm

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 3:21 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

Hi,

I had the same problem, it ended up becoming  really annoying , so I disabled password at log in. if you're happy to remove the password at log in, it can be done. on older builds of windows there used to be a option in user settings to disable password, but for some reason that’s gone in the latest windows versions. because of not having speech at the log in with jaws I googled around for a solution, I found a few websites all suggesting this  as a fix, bring up start and type netplwiz, and hit enter , or bring up the run command  and type it there and press enter, it will then bring up a window where you can amend whether windows asks  for a password or not. I gave this ago and it worked fine for me and allowed me to disable password at log in and now takes me straight to the desktop when I first turn on my PC.

Paul

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Lange

Sent: 23 May 2018 15:34

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

Hi,

I’m not sure if this has been covered before. At my work, I have 15 computers in a lab, all running Windows 10, with JAWS 2018 and/or Fusion 2018. They are all networked and all log into a domain. When cold booting them, , The lock screens and login screens don’t always speak in spite of Jaws or Fusion being told to  start at login. This is a royal pain both for me, and especially for my students who are new to using computers with Jaws.  Is there a way to dispense with lock screens altogether and just go straight to a login prompt that will consistently speak?? Our local IT guys say no. What say you?

Best regards,

Tom

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

Thank you to everyone who has replied, and may be yet to reply, for giving a range of options to address this issue.

I certainly wouldn't have known about any of them otherwise.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain

Hi, James. I don’t think Flexible Web would work in this instance. Flexible Web is for telling JAWS which sections of a web page to display. It doesn’t change which elements of that page will be announced, or how they are to be announced.

Hi Brian,

This might be a long shot, but would flexable web work in this instants?

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 6:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

Steve,

            Thanks very much.  Even if it's only for Say All that's really the only circumstance I'm concerned about since you can start and stop Say All at will.

             I figured there had to be some way to do this, as there are many pages, including many newspapers, where if all you wanted to do was get a read through of an article as though you were reading the actual newspaper you'd want to turn link announcements off during that reading.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain

Hi,

I have not used braille input since I am relatively new to Jaws, as of the end of Window-Eyes…

I think I have the braille settings correct.  I have it to UEB Grade 2 input and output.

But, when I try to write in a Word 2016 document, I end up bringing up all kinds of Jaws options instead of inputting text.

Is there a command that needs to precede inputting from a braille display?

Thanks for any help,

Richard

“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

John:

You are correct, this is not a hardware problem.  The Braille translation tables will need to be updated, which is not directly in the control of VFO.

I experienced a similar error that was eventually corrected, and I am experiencing the first two errors you mentioned, but not the error with little.

Randy Meyer

If it is what I think it is it will affect any braille device that uses the Liblious 3.3  and 3.5 Braille translation tables which are open source. I don’t think it is the hardware as such, although I could be wrong, I think it is VFO’s decision to use the Liblious translation table in Jaws. In theory it was a good decision as long as the tables are correctly implemented. It affects the Focus displays but should affect others that use this open source table.

John

Sorry to hear this John. And I am sorry to have to say I don’t know, because I am not a Focus refresh a bowl braille display or El Braille User. However, perhaps the focus 40 generation  5 will resolve that problem. Of course, if you are using a focus 14, then I guess that unless Freedom Scientific comes out with a corresponding version of the 14 cell refreshable braille device, then that   won’t help either. Shalom,

Hi Brian,

This might be a long shot, but would flexable web work in this instants?

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 6:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

Steve,

            Thanks very much.  Even if it's only for Say All that's really the only circumstance I'm concerned about since you can start and stop Say All at will.

             I figured there had to be some way to do this, as there are many pages, including many newspapers, where if all you wanted to do was get a read through of an article as though you were reading the actual newspaper you'd want to turn link announcements off during that reading.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain

Steve,

            Thanks very much.  Even if it's only for Say All that's really the only circumstance I'm concerned about since you can start and stop Say All at will.

             I figured there had to be some way to do this, as there are many pages, including many newspapers, where if all you wanted to do was get a read through of an article as though you were reading the actual newspaper you'd want to turn link announcements off during that reading.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain

James, the "flexible web" feature is something I have never heard of and have no familiarity with.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 6:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

Steve,

            Thanks very much.  Even if it's only for Say All that's really the only circumstance I'm concerned about since you can start and stop Say All at will.

             I figured there had to be some way to do this, as there are many pages, including many newspapers, where if all you wanted to do was get a read through of an article as though you were reading the actual newspaper you'd want to turn link announcements off during that reading.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain

Hi,

Actually, it’ll depend on your needs. Both Windows 8.x and 10 will let you enable or disable fast startup (technically known as hybrid boot).

Cheers,

Joseph

What about Windows 10.  I Have the Pro Edition.

Les

Fast start should be off to totally shut the computer down like in Windows seven!

David Moore

    Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hi Sieghard,

Should fast startup be on or off.  Sometimes Jaws speaks, sometimes it doesn't when cold booting.  Also, since updating to the Spring Creators update, it seems to take longer for me to get to the sign-in screen.  Right now, fast startup is on.  Thanks.

Les

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:53 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

Are you sure you have turned off fast startup, most of the time when Jaws doesn't speak at the login screen that one is to blame. I have 4 desktop PC's and a laptop and Jaws speaks just fine at startup and the Windows startup sounds oplays consistently.

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of paul lemm

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 3:21 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

Hi,

I had the same problem, it ended up becoming  really annoying , so I disabled password at log in. if you're happy to remove the password at log in, it can be done. on older builds of windows there used to be a option in user settings to disable password, but for some reason that’s gone in the latest windows versions. because of not having speech at the log in with jaws I googled around for a solution, I found a few websites all suggesting this  as a fix, bring up start and type netplwiz, and hit enter , or bring up the run command  and type it there and press enter, it will then bring up a window where you can amend whether windows asks  for a password or not. I gave this ago and it worked fine for me and allowed me to disable password at log in and now takes me straight to the desktop when I first turn on my PC.

Paul

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Lange

Sent: 23 May 2018 15:34

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

Hi,

I’m not sure if this has been covered before. At my work, I have 15 computers in a lab, all running Windows 10, with JAWS 2018 and/or Fusion 2018. They are all networked and all log into a domain. When cold booting them, , The lock screens and login screens don’t always speak in spite of Jaws or Fusion being told to  start at login. This is a royal pain both for me, and especially for my students who are new to using computers with Jaws.  Is there a way to dispense with lock screens altogether and just go straight to a login prompt that will consistently speak?? Our local IT guys say no. What say you?

Best regards,

Tom

What about Windows 10.  I Have the Pro Edition.

Les

Fast start should be off to totally shut the computer down like in Windows seven!

David Moore

    Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hi Sieghard,

Should fast startup be on or off.  Sometimes Jaws speaks, sometimes it doesn't when cold booting.  Also, since updating to the Spring Creators update, it seems to take longer for me to get to the sign-in screen.  Right now, fast startup is on.  Thanks.

Les

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:53 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

Are you sure you have turned off fast startup, most of the time when Jaws doesn't speak at the login screen that one is to blame. I have 4 desktop PC's and a laptop and Jaws speaks just fine at startup and the Windows startup sounds oplays consistently.

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of paul lemm

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 3:21 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

Hi,

I had the same problem, it ended up becoming  really annoying , so I disabled password at log in. if you're happy to remove the password at log in, it can be done. on older builds of windows there used to be a option in user settings to disable password, but for some reason that’s gone in the latest windows versions. because of not having speech at the log in with jaws I googled around for a solution, I found a few websites all suggesting this  as a fix, bring up start and type netplwiz, and hit enter , or bring up the run command  and type it there and press enter, it will then bring up a window where you can amend whether windows asks  for a password or not. I gave this ago and it worked fine for me and allowed me to disable password at log in and now takes me straight to the desktop when I first turn on my PC.

Paul

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Lange

Sent: 23 May 2018 15:34

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: Windows 10 Lock Screens and Login Prompts

Hi,

I’m not sure if this has been covered before. At my work, I have 15 computers in a lab, all running Windows 10, with JAWS 2018 and/or Fusion 2018. They are all networked and all log into a domain. When cold booting them, , The lock screens and login screens don’t always speak in spite of Jaws or Fusion being told to  start at login. This is a royal pain both for me, and especially for my students who are new to using computers with Jaws.  Is there a way to dispense with lock screens altogether and just go straight to a login prompt that will consistently speak?? Our local IT guys say no. What say you?

Best regards,

Tom

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 6:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2018 and Wikipedia

Steve,

            Thanks very much.  Even if it's only for Say All that's really the only circumstance I'm concerned about since you can start and stop Say All at will.

             I figured there had to be some way to do this, as there are many pages, including many newspapers, where if all you wanted to do was get a read through of an article as though you were reading the actual newspaper you'd want to turn link announcements off during that reading.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain

If it is what I think it is it will affect any braille device that uses the Liblious 3.3  and 3.5 Braille translation tables which are open source. I don’t think it is the hardware as such, although I could be wrong, I think it is VFO’s decision to use the Liblious translation table in Jaws. In theory it was a good decision as long as the tables are correctly implemented. It affects the Focus displays but should affect others that use this open source table.

John

Sorry to hear this John. And I am sorry to have to say I don’t know, because I am not a Focus refresh a bowl braille display or El Braille User. However, perhaps the focus 40 generation  5 will resolve that problem. Of course, if you are using a focus 14, then I guess that unless Freedom Scientific comes out with a corresponding version of the 14 cell refreshable braille device, then that   won’t help either. Shalom,