Date   

moderated Re: Wire shark

charleseblack@...
 

There is something called tShark. This will give you information in textual
format. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bissett, Tom
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 10:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Wire shark

Hi Nino, I haven't used wire shark for quite a few years. What I did find
is that the information was displayed in two windows. You would locate an
information line with the pc cursor and then you would have to use the jaws
cursor to read the bottom pain that held all the related information. Not
very practical. I found by exporting the information it was very readable
only there was so much information it again was not very practical.

Its colour scheme was all grey and you had to do custom colours for
everything including menus. It can be used in a pinch but really not very
useful on an ongoing basis.

I don't know whether it has changed much since I had to use it. I don't
know of any other tools like that.

Regards

Tom Bisset



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino
Dagostino
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Wire shark



Good morming"



Happy mothers day to all those moms.



I was wondering if anybody new if Jaws works with wireshark, if not what
could be used in its place.



Thank you.


moderated Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

Dale Alton <blinkydale@...>
 

Thank you Dave. Once I went with remainder and not decimal, bingo bango

Denver Dale

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 9:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

remainder, not decimal, Dale. Use even division and note the remainder.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Alton" <blinkydale@comcast.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 19:33
Subject: Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?


I must be some thing wrong. Take November 23, 2018.
The formula I come up with is: 17+4+6+23=68, 68/7=9.7. If Sunday is 0 and
Monday is 1 where is 7?

Denver Dale

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Chaffin
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 6:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

Hello Mario,

As far as step 1 and why you use 17, You just use one number less than the
last 2 digits of the year. So since that was 18, you would use the number
17. So if you were looking at a date with the year 2020, then you would use
19. Again, one less than the last 2 digits of the year.

Now, as far as step 3, you basically add 3 for each month that has 31 days,
2 for each month that has 30 days, and 1 for February if it has 29 days.
Now you only count the months up to the month with the date you are looking
for. For example, if your date is in May, then you would do this for
January through April. If your date is in October, then you would do this
for January through September.
And finally, you would add the days in the month up to the date you are
looking for. For example, if your date is the 13th of the month, then you
would add 13, if your date is the 25th, then you would add 25.

Now step 4 is just the result from adding the numbers from step 3. Step 3
was the instructions, and step 4 is the calculation of step 3.

Step 5 is just doing the final calculation. The important part of the
calculation is the remainder. In the example given, the remainder was 2, so
that is what determined the day of the week.
For all calculations, if your remainder is 0 then your day is Sunday, 1 then
Monday, 2 then Tuesday, and so on.

Hope this has been helpful.

Chris


On May 13, 2018, at 7:24 PM, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:

I always wondered how some individuals can do this. but can someone
clearly explain it to me step by step because I don't follow how it's
done. yes, it is written, but I just don't understand like in step 1,
why do you arrive at using 17 and not 18? is it because 2018 is not an
odd year? and for step 3 and 4, I am lost.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Dave... [mailto:dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 7:33 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

Clever and ingenious.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: inamuddin khan
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 16:26
Subject: Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?


Suppose, you don’t have anything computer, cell phone or any kind of
calendar, are you not able to tell the day of the week of any date?

Let me tell you how you can do it!

Suppose your date is 12/25/2018.

1.

Take 17 that is 17 years of 21st century.

2.

Take 4 meaning that from year 1 to year 17, there are 4 leap years.

3.

Take 3 from the months which have 31 days, 2 from the months which have
30 days and take 1 from the month which have 29 days.

4.

From that calculations, there are 6 months having 31 days meaning 18
days, 4 months having 30 days meaning 8 days and take 25 days from
December.

5.

Now final calculation is:

17+4+18+8+25=72 divided by 7=10 remaining 2.

6.

Now you can count them as, Sunday 0 Monday 1 and Tuesday 2.

So December 25 2018 will be Tuesday!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1





Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 9:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?



Actually, if you want to know what day a particular date is, just type
the date in a cell, e.g. in A1 type 12/24/2018, then press Control+1 to
format the cell and select the date format, then from the available
options select the one that has the weekday included (for me it’s the
second from the top).

If, for example, I enter 12/25/2018 into A1 and then apply that format,
it will read “Tuesday, December 25, 2018” so I now know that Christmas
day this year is on a Tuesday.

Now, if I want to know how many days it is until Christmas from today
(May 11), I type 5/11/2018 into cell A2, then in cell A3 I subtract the
larger date (Christmas) from the smaller date (today), so I put =A1-A2
and the result in this case will be 228 which is the correct number of
days from May 11 until December 25.



the day



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 6:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?



Hi,

Following is a formula to calculate the day of the week from an input
date.

In the first cell, in this case A4, type in 3/12/1988 and the cell with
the formula will display the week day.



=TEXT(A4,"dddd")



Depending on where you live and the date format, you may need to change
the formula a little. This formula works on 3 December 1988 and not
December 12 format. But then it may not need to be altered at all.
You’ll just need to experiment.



HTH

Tom











From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Minor
Sent: Saturday, 12 May 2018 9:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?



Hi.



I’m looking for a source to learn about the different formulas for
Excel. I purchased the book that CathyAnne Murtha wrote, but it doesn’t
contain all the formulas that I’m looking for. Essentially, I’d like a
kind of Excel for Dummies where all the formulas are listed and how they
work. As an example, I’d like to know how to have Excel tell me the day
of the week a date will be. Also, I’d like to know how many days are
between dates. I looked through the book I got from Ms. Murtha, but it
doesn’t list all the formulas.



Thanks for any help. Dates aren’t the only thing I’m looking for. I
know Excel is a very powerful program, and I’d like to learn how to use
it to its fullest potential.



Thanks for any info.



Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY









moderated Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

inamuddin khan
 

1.

Take 5 days from each century that’s 5 from 17, 5 from 18 and 5 from 19.

2.

Take 90 days from year 1901 to year 1990.

3.

Take 22 days as leap years because from year 19901 to year 1990, there are 22 leap years.

4.

Take 3 days each from January, March, May, July,  August and October.

5.

Take 2 days each from April, June and September.

6.

Take 11 days from November.

7.

The final calculation will be:

5+5+5+90+22+3+3+2+3+2+3+3+2+3+11=162 Divide into 7=23 remainder 1.

8.

Now count it as Sunday 0 Monday 1.

November 11 1991 was Monday.

Hope that make sense!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mario
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 11:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

 

ok, how would a date like 11/11/1991 be handled?

 

-------- Original Message --------

From: inamuddin khan [mailto:inamuddin09@...]

Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 9:45 PM EST

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

 

Yes dear, you misunderstood the calculation.

1.

Take 19 days from year 2001 to year 2019.

2.

Take 4 days because from year 2001 to year 2019, there are 4 leap years.

3.

Take 3 days each  from January, March, May that will be 9 days.

4.

Take 2 days each from April and June that will be 4.

5.

Take 1 from February because the year 2020 will be leap year.

6.

Take 8 days from July.

7.

The total will be 45 not 36.

The final calculation will be:

19+4+3+1+3+2+3+2+8=45 divide into 7 iquals 6 remainder 3.

So counting will Sunday 0, Monday 1, Tuesday 2, and Wednessday 3.

So July 8th 2020 will be Wednessday!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mario

Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 5:46 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

 

date is 7/8/2020

2020 - 1 = 2019. so start with 19.

4 leap years within those 19 years. so add a 4.

starting from January 2020:

January, March and May have 31 days. so add a 3.

April and June have 30 days. so add a 2.

add the 8 days of July.

total is 36 divided by 7 (days in a week?) = 5.142 = 5.1.

so 7/8/2020 is a Monday. but it's not. where did I go wrong, or is

something missing?

 

 

-------- Original Message --------

From: Chris Chaffin [mailto:chaffin102468@...]

Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 8:00 PM EST

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

 

Hello Mario,

 

As far as step 1 and why you use 17, You just use one number less than

the last 2 digits of the year.  So since that was 18, you would use the

number 17.  So if you were looking at a date with the year 2020, then

you would use 19.  Again, one less than the last 2 digits of the year.

 

Now, as far as step 3, you basically add 3 for each month that has 31

days, 2 for each month that has 30 days, and 1 for February if it has 29

days.

Now you only count the months up to the month with the date you are

looking for.  For example, if your date is in May, then you would do

this for January through April.  If your date is in October, then you

would do this for January through September.

And finally, you would add the days in the month up to the date you are

looking for.  For example, if your date is the 13th of the month, then

you would add 13, if your date is the 25th, then you would add 25.

 

Now step 4 is just the result from adding the numbers from step 3.  Step

3 was the instructions, and step 4 is the calculation of step 3.

 

Step 5 is just doing the final calculation.  The important part of the

calculation is the remainder.  In the example given, the remainder was

2, so that is what determined the day of the week.

For all calculations, if your remainder is 0 then your day is Sunday, 1

then Monday, 2 then Tuesday, and so on.

 

Hope this has been helpful.

 

Chris

 

 

On May 13, 2018, at 7:24 PM, Mario <mrb620@...> wrote:

 

I always wondered how some individuals can do this. but can someone

clearly explain it to me step by step because I don't follow how it's

done. yes, it is written, but I just don't understand like in step 1,

why do you arrive at using 17 and not 18? is it because 2018 is not an

odd year? and for step 3 and 4, I am lost.

 

-------- Original Message --------

From: Dave... [mailto:dgcarlson@...]

Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 7:33 PM EST

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

 

Clever and ingenious.

 

Dave

Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: inamuddin khan

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 16:26

Subject: Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

 

 

Suppose, you don’t have anything computer, cell phone or any kind of

calendar, are you not able to tell the day of the week of any date?

 

Let me tell you how you can do it!

 

Suppose your date is 12/25/2018.

 

1.

 

Take 17 that is 17 years of 21st century.

 

2.

 

Take 4 meaning that from year 1 to year 17, there  are 4 leap years.

 

3.

 

Take 3 from the months which have 31 days, 2 from the months which have

30 days and take 1 from the month which have 29 days.

 

4.

 

    From that calculations, there are 6 months having 31 days meaning 18

days, 4 months having 30 days meaning 8 days and take 25 days from December.

 

5.

 

Now final calculation is:

 

17+4+18+8+25=72 divided by 7=10 remaining 2.

 

6.

 

Now you can count them as, Sunday 0 Monday 1 and Tuesday 2.

 

So December 25 2018 will be Tuesday!

 

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

 

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 9:49 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

 

 

 

Actually, if you want to know what day a particular date is, just type

the date in a cell, e.g. in A1 type 12/24/2018, then press Control+1 to

format the cell and select the date format, then from the available

options select the one that has the weekday included (for me it’s the

second from the top).

 

If, for example, I enter 12/25/2018 into A1 and then apply that format,

it will read “Tuesday, December 25, 2018” so I now know that Christmas

day this year is on a Tuesday.

 

Now, if I want to know how many days it is until Christmas from today

(May 11), I type 5/11/2018 into cell A2, then in cell A3 I subtract the

larger date (Christmas) from the smaller date (today), so I put =A1-A2

and the result in this case will be 228 which is the correct number of

days from May 11 until December 25.

 

 

 

the day

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom

Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 6:18 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

 

 

 

Hi,

 

Following is a formula to calculate the day of the week  from an input date.

 

In the first cell, in this case A4, type in 3/12/1988 and the cell with

the formula will display the week day.

 

 

 

=TEXT(A4,"dddd")

 

 

 

Depending on where you live and the date format, you may need to change

the formula a little.  This formula  works on 3 December 1988 and not

December 12 format.  But then it may not need to be altered at all.

You’ll just need to experiment.

 

 

 

HTH

 

Tom

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin

Minor

Sent: Saturday, 12 May 2018 9:31 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

 

 

 

Hi.

 

 

 

I’m looking for a source to learn about the different formulas for

Excel.  I purchased the book that CathyAnne Murtha wrote, but it doesn’t

contain all the formulas that I’m looking for.  Essentially, I’d like a

kind of Excel for Dummies where all the formulas are listed and how they

work.  As an example, I’d like to know how to have Excel tell me the day

of the week a date will be.  Also, I’d like to know how many days are

between dates.  I looked through the book I got from Ms. Murtha, but it

doesn’t list all the formulas.

 

 

 

Thanks for any help.  Dates aren’t the only thing I’m looking for.  I

know Excel is a very powerful program, and I’d like to learn how to use

it to its fullest potential.

 

 

 

Thanks for any info.

 

 

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

 

Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: start jaws automatically after log in

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

The fix for this seems to be to set logon to always, as opposed to As Global Settings.

 

I have seen this problem too.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 11 May 2018 20:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

 

Very strange, Richard, yours and the other person’s report about this is the first I hear about it and I’m also part of the Jaws Beta where some people have been running the Insider/Beta builds of 1803 for a while. I myself have upgraded 5 computers (of 3 different makes and 5 different models with 1803 and have no issues with Jaws not speaking after logon.

On the other hand on one of my work PC’s Jaws or Windows or whichever decided not to read the start menu or the content of the Settings app any more, I can go to Settings and it will say “System” as I tab into it from the search box, but then as I arrow around the highlight moves but Jaws is utterly silent. If I down arrow twice and press enter it does open “Personalisation” or if I press End and enter it goes into Update and Security, but once there and I tab it again reads/speaks nothing and the same happens in the start menu, visually it’s there but Jaws speaks nothing.

It must be a weird glitch which wasn’t there after I first installed Windows 10 on that PC, but it persisted through several Jaws updates, I have uninstalled Jaws including shared components and user settings several times and even the Windows 1803 upgrade did not fix this. I am still talking to FS elevated support, but I have a feeling that nothing short of a complete reset or new installation of Windows would solve this and that is difficult since this PC happens to be our main register PC at my store and getting it all set up again is a major headache and would require my payment provider to connect and install their plugin to my point of sale software etc. It is however mostly a Jaws issue since if I unload Jaws and start Narrator it reads the Settings and start menu just fine. For now this is my work-around, I am not using that PC all that much anyways and if I use it then I don’t usually need the start menu and Jaws does work in the old control panel where I can access most things as well.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 12:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

 

 

I have the same settings as Bill, but since the last Windows update to 1803, JAWS never talks after logon.

I have to manually start JAWS.

I'll be reporting this to Microsoft and VFO.

Richard

 

 

“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1


On May 11, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:

Mine are basically the same except I don’t usually check the “Start Jaws after logon for all users” since if you set the “for this user” to always that should suffice.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: start jaws automatically after log in

 

Hi, Stan. Here’s how I have my options in JAWS set for Start JAWS Automatically. Probably all of these don’t necessarily need to be set the same way as I have them for JAWS to start successfully at login, but for what it’s worth, here’s my settings. If you don’t have them set this way, you might want to try these settings to see if anything improves.

 

Start JAWS at the Logon screen check box checked

 

Start JAWS after logon for all users check box checked

 

Start JAWS after logon for this user: Combo box

Always

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 8:56 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: start jaws automatically after log in

 

I am running j2018 and windows 10.

 

Using the options/basics dialogue in j2018 I cannot get jaws to open automatically after log in. I can get it to load before sign in but then it is not running after I have logged in. I really don’t need or want to load before sign In, but I do want it to load after log in.

 

Appreciate your help.

 

Stan

 


moderated Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

Steve Nutt
 

Yes, there is.  See my previous message.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 09 May 2018 15:25
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

 

Hi, David. I believe what John is asking is if there is a way to search for files in Windows 10 based on words contained inside files. This used to be possible in Windows XP, and I believe it is one thing we cannot now do since Windows 7. I miss this feature. I used to have a folder of recipes, and I could, for example, search for any of those text files that contain the word pistachio. This was nice, because it made it easy to find anything on the drive. It also used to be easier to change which drive was searched.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 1:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

 

Hi John,
assuming that the files are somewhere in your personal folder, you can do this from the search box in the start menu. Normally when you search for files using the start menu, it only searches the names of files. However, if you filter the search results for documents, then the contents are searched as well. To do this:
1. In the search box, type in a word or phrase as normal.
2. Tab twice to move to the filters list, which is laid out as a row of items.
3. Press right arrow to move to find results in documents, and press enter. The focus returns to the search box, and Jaws reads out the first item in the filtered list of results.

David.

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 03:40 am, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. wrote:

How can I find files in windows 10 by their content and not just their names.  

Thank you.


moderated Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

Steve Nutt
 

Hi David,

 

Or you could type Doc: before your search term  So if you were looking for “David”, and typed “doc:David”, it would only search in documents.  No tabbing, just remembering three characters.

 

If you want to do the reverse and look for files by name, rather than content, then file: is your friend.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: 09 May 2018 09:39
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: File find in windows 10 with jaws 2018, looking for content not the names of files

 

Hi John,
assuming that the files are somewhere in your personal folder, you can do this from the search box in the start menu. Normally when you search for files using the start menu, it only searches the names of files. However, if you filter the search results for documents, then the contents are searched as well. To do this:
1. In the search box, type in a word or phrase as normal.
2. Tab twice to move to the filters list, which is laid out as a row of items.
3. Press right arrow to move to find results in documents, and press enter. The focus returns to the search box, and Jaws reads out the first item in the filtered list of results.

David.

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 03:40 am, John J. Fioravanti, Jr. wrote:

How can I find files in windows 10 by their content and not just their names.  

Thank you.


moderated Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

Stan Bobbitt
 

Yes, and where do you come up with the numbers like 5 from 17, and 4 from 17.
Stan B

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 7:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

I always wondered how some individuals can do this. but can someone clearly explain it to me step by step because I don't follow how it's done. yes, it is written, but I just don't understand like in step 1, why do you arrive at using 17 and not 18? is it because 2018 is not an odd year? and for step 3 and 4, I am lost.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Dave... [mailto:dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 7:33 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

Clever and ingenious.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: inamuddin khan
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 16:26
Subject: Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?


Suppose, you don’t have anything computer, cell phone or any kind of calendar, are you not able to tell the day of the week of any date?

Let me tell you how you can do it!

Suppose your date is 12/25/2018.

1.

Take 17 that is 17 years of 21st century.

2.

Take 4 meaning that from year 1 to year 17, there are 4 leap years.

3.

Take 3 from the months which have 31 days, 2 from the months which have
30 days and take 1 from the month which have 29 days.

4.

From that calculations, there are 6 months having 31 days meaning 18 days, 4 months having 30 days meaning 8 days and take 25 days from December.

5.

Now final calculation is:

17+4+18+8+25=72 divided by 7=10 remaining 2.

6.

Now you can count them as, Sunday 0 Monday 1 and Tuesday 2.

So December 25 2018 will be Tuesday!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1





Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 9:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?



Actually, if you want to know what day a particular date is, just type the date in a cell, e.g. in A1 type 12/24/2018, then press Control+1 to format the cell and select the date format, then from the available options select the one that has the weekday included (for me it’s the second from the top).

If, for example, I enter 12/25/2018 into A1 and then apply that format, it will read “Tuesday, December 25, 2018” so I now know that Christmas day this year is on a Tuesday.

Now, if I want to know how many days it is until Christmas from today (May 11), I type 5/11/2018 into cell A2, then in cell A3 I subtract the larger date (Christmas) from the smaller date (today), so I put =A1-A2 and the result in this case will be 228 which is the correct number of days from May 11 until December 25.



the day



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 6:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?



Hi,

Following is a formula to calculate the day of the week from an input date.

In the first cell, in this case A4, type in 3/12/1988 and the cell with the formula will display the week day.



=TEXT(A4,"dddd")



Depending on where you live and the date format, you may need to change
the formula a little. This formula works on 3 December 1988 and not
December 12 format. But then it may not need to be altered at all.
You’ll just need to experiment.



HTH

Tom











From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Minor
Sent: Saturday, 12 May 2018 9:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?



Hi.



I’m looking for a source to learn about the different formulas for
Excel. I purchased the book that CathyAnne Murtha wrote, but it doesn’t
contain all the formulas that I’m looking for. Essentially, I’d like a
kind of Excel for Dummies where all the formulas are listed and how they
work. As an example, I’d like to know how to have Excel tell me the day
of the week a date will be. Also, I’d like to know how many days are
between dates. I looked through the book I got from Ms. Murtha, but it
doesn’t list all the formulas.



Thanks for any help. Dates aren’t the only thing I’m looking for. I
know Excel is a very powerful program, and I’d like to learn how to use
it to its fullest potential.



Thanks for any info.



Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY


moderated Maria, please respond off-list

Sandra Streeter
 

Message for Maria Campbell:
 
Tried to get in touch with you re a non-JAWS-related thing, but my message bounced back, something to the effect that I wasn’t allowed to send to your address. Ah, tech—can’t live with it, can’t live without! Hope to hear back soon!
 
 
Sandra

"Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced."
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moderated Accessibility Development & Testing Resources

 

Hello All,
 
         What follows will be posted on the JAWS for Windows, NVDA, and Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users groups on Groups.io.  So anyone who might be participating on more than one of the above need only respond on a single one of those venues.
 
         As some of you know, I have a bachelor's degree in computer science and well over a decade of professional experience (now somewhat distant) as a programmer, analyst, and database administrator.  When I did my career switch, which turned out to be a semi-switch, to speech and language pathology I ended up having some focus on assistive technology in that realm and then expanded into blindness and low-vision areas when I came to work at the Virginia School for the Deaf and the Blind a few years back.  Since then I've been doing quite a bit of freelance work for the Technology Tutor Network of the Virginia Department for the Blind and Visually Impaired (DBVI).
 
         One of the things that's now coming to the fore is that accessibility is no longer an afterthought, but organizations are trying to design it in from the start.  So, that leads to my first question:   What are the standards, conventions, and other resources those of you involved in software development would point someone to who's trying to get a grasp on what is involved in "designing in accessibility" from the get go?  There are probably resources that you all may know about that I certainly do not, at least not yet.
 
         I have also been asked to assist with accessibility testing, which I am willing to do, but even I realize that as a sighted user of a screen reader that I am not, by far, the most skilled nor the most realistic model as far as this goes.  It would seem that there is a huge business potential for accessibility testing by those who actually use screen reading software as their primary access method to the computer and to the internet.   If anyone knows of either established organizations or individuals who are doing this sort of work freelance, would you please share this information with me either via private message or on the group?
 
         I just received a call from the head of the DBVI Technology Tutor Network and we had a lengthy discussion of both of these things.   I realized that I do not have the degree of expertise in either one of these arenas that many who participate on this group may have.  I will pass along the information I receive unless a specific request that such not be shared is made.
 
         Thanks in advance for your insights.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

         ~ Mark Twain


moderated Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

Mario
 

ok, how would a date like 11/11/1991 be handled?

-------- Original Message --------
From: inamuddin khan [mailto:inamuddin09@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 9:45 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

Yes dear, you misunderstood the calculation.
1.
Take 19 days from year 2001 to year 2019.
2.
Take 4 days because from year 2001 to year 2019, there are 4 leap years.
3.
Take 3 days each from January, March, May that will be 9 days.
4.
Take 2 days each from April and June that will be 4.
5.
Take 1 from February because the year 2020 will be leap year.
6.
Take 8 days from July.
7.
The total will be 45 not 36.
The final calculation will be:
19+4+3+1+3+2+3+2+8=45 divide into 7 iquals 6 remainder 3.
So counting will Sunday 0, Monday 1, Tuesday 2, and Wednessday 3.
So July 8th 2020 will be Wednessday!
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Mario
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 5:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

date is 7/8/2020
2020 - 1 = 2019. so start with 19.
4 leap years within those 19 years. so add a 4.
starting from January 2020:
January, March and May have 31 days. so add a 3.
April and June have 30 days. so add a 2.
add the 8 days of July.
total is 36 divided by 7 (days in a week?) = 5.142 = 5.1.
so 7/8/2020 is a Monday. but it's not. where did I go wrong, or is
something missing?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Chris Chaffin [mailto:chaffin102468@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 8:00 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

Hello Mario,

As far as step 1 and why you use 17, You just use one number less than
the last 2 digits of the year. So since that was 18, you would use the
number 17. So if you were looking at a date with the year 2020, then
you would use 19. Again, one less than the last 2 digits of the year.

Now, as far as step 3, you basically add 3 for each month that has 31
days, 2 for each month that has 30 days, and 1 for February if it has 29
days.
Now you only count the months up to the month with the date you are
looking for. For example, if your date is in May, then you would do
this for January through April. If your date is in October, then you
would do this for January through September.
And finally, you would add the days in the month up to the date you are
looking for. For example, if your date is the 13th of the month, then
you would add 13, if your date is the 25th, then you would add 25.

Now step 4 is just the result from adding the numbers from step 3. Step
3 was the instructions, and step 4 is the calculation of step 3.

Step 5 is just doing the final calculation. The important part of the
calculation is the remainder. In the example given, the remainder was
2, so that is what determined the day of the week.
For all calculations, if your remainder is 0 then your day is Sunday, 1
then Monday, 2 then Tuesday, and so on.

Hope this has been helpful.

Chris


On May 13, 2018, at 7:24 PM, Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> wrote:

I always wondered how some individuals can do this. but can someone
clearly explain it to me step by step because I don't follow how it's
done. yes, it is written, but I just don't understand like in step 1,
why do you arrive at using 17 and not 18? is it because 2018 is not an
odd year? and for step 3 and 4, I am lost.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Dave... [mailto:dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 7:33 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

Clever and ingenious.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: inamuddin khan
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 16:26
Subject: Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?


Suppose, you don’t have anything computer, cell phone or any kind of
calendar, are you not able to tell the day of the week of any date?

Let me tell you how you can do it!

Suppose your date is 12/25/2018.

1.

Take 17 that is 17 years of 21st century.

2.

Take 4 meaning that from year 1 to year 17, there are 4 leap years.

3.

Take 3 from the months which have 31 days, 2 from the months which have
30 days and take 1 from the month which have 29 days.

4.

From that calculations, there are 6 months having 31 days meaning 18
days, 4 months having 30 days meaning 8 days and take 25 days from December.

5.

Now final calculation is:

17+4+18+8+25=72 divided by 7=10 remaining 2.

6.

Now you can count them as, Sunday 0 Monday 1 and Tuesday 2.

So December 25 2018 will be Tuesday!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1





Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 9:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?



Actually, if you want to know what day a particular date is, just type
the date in a cell, e.g. in A1 type 12/24/2018, then press Control+1 to
format the cell and select the date format, then from the available
options select the one that has the weekday included (for me it’s the
second from the top).

If, for example, I enter 12/25/2018 into A1 and then apply that format,
it will read “Tuesday, December 25, 2018” so I now know that Christmas
day this year is on a Tuesday.

Now, if I want to know how many days it is until Christmas from today
(May 11), I type 5/11/2018 into cell A2, then in cell A3 I subtract the
larger date (Christmas) from the smaller date (today), so I put =A1-A2
and the result in this case will be 228 which is the correct number of
days from May 11 until December 25.



the day



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 6:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?



Hi,

Following is a formula to calculate the day of the week from an input date.

In the first cell, in this case A4, type in 3/12/1988 and the cell with
the formula will display the week day.



=TEXT(A4,"dddd")



Depending on where you live and the date format, you may need to change
the formula a little. This formula works on 3 December 1988 and not
December 12 format. But then it may not need to be altered at all.
You’ll just need to experiment.



HTH

Tom











From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Minor
Sent: Saturday, 12 May 2018 9:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?



Hi.



I’m looking for a source to learn about the different formulas for
Excel. I purchased the book that CathyAnne Murtha wrote, but it doesn’t
contain all the formulas that I’m looking for. Essentially, I’d like a
kind of Excel for Dummies where all the formulas are listed and how they
work. As an example, I’d like to know how to have Excel tell me the day
of the week a date will be. Also, I’d like to know how many days are
between dates. I looked through the book I got from Ms. Murtha, but it
doesn’t list all the formulas.



Thanks for any help. Dates aren’t the only thing I’m looking for. I
know Excel is a very powerful program, and I’d like to learn how to use
it to its fullest potential.



Thanks for any info.



Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin Minor and the amazing Jilly, Lexington, KY












.


moderated Re: Email inbox

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Alternatively  you can keep your Inbox clean by moving messages you have dealt with but want to keep into other folders, those which are not important get deleted and only those you still want to reply to or need for something else in the short term stay in the Inbox. I think that is what an “Inbox” is supposed to be, a temporary place to keep incoming emails until you no longer need them or file them I n their proper place. After all, you don’t throw all your paper mail into a big box and leave it there.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 8:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Email inbox

 

Hi, Nino. If I have an email which I know I will want to act on in the future, and know it may be difficult to find, here’s what I do. I use F12 to save the email as a file. Once it saves, the name resembles the subject line, and it is usually saved as a file in Documents with an .msg extension. If you click on the file, it opens outlook, and you are in the body of the email you saved. You can do all the things you can normally do with an email, including, reply, forward, etc.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 4:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Email inbox

 

Hi:

 

I was wondering if anybody new how to move the posission of an email that is quite far down on the lists of emails in the inbox.

 

Is there a way to move that message further up in the list of emails?

 

I hope I explained it properly.

 

 


moderated Re: Email inbox

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Nino. If I have an email which I know I will want to act on in the future, and know it may be difficult to find, here’s what I do. I use F12 to save the email as a file. Once it saves, the name resembles the subject line, and it is usually saved as a file in Documents with an .msg extension. If you click on the file, it opens outlook, and you are in the body of the email you saved. You can do all the things you can normally do with an email, including, reply, forward, etc.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 4:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Email inbox

 

Hi:

 

I was wondering if anybody new how to move the posission of an email that is quite far down on the lists of emails in the inbox.

 

Is there a way to move that message further up in the list of emails?

 

I hope I explained it properly.

 

 


moderated Re: Casper

netbat66
 

version 8 does and is the most accessible.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nino Dagostino
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 4:11 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Casper



Hi:



Will the older versions of Casper work in windows10?



Thanks


moderated Re: Email inbox

Nino Dagostino
 

Hi:

 

That’s a good idea, thanks

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of paul lemm
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Email inbox

 

Hi,

 

I’m not sure that’s possible since most  email clients sort emails in a specific order (usually by date received), however, although this isn’t a perfect solution by anymeans, as a work around you can just forward the email to yourself, this way it will show as a new message at the top of your inbox and then you could keep that copy an delete the older one.

 

Hope this helps

 

Paul

 

 

Paul

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: 14 May 2018 12:24
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Email inbox

 

Hi:

 

I was wondering if anybody new how to move the posission of an email that is quite far down on the lists of emails in the inbox.

 

Is there a way to move that message further up in the list of emails?

 

I hope I explained it properly.

 

 


moderated Re: Using JAWS to Resume a Download from BARD

Dan Longmore
 

I don’t believe that BARD, except perhaps BARD express, will allow you to pause and resume.  You need to re start the download.

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 12:00 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Using JAWS to Resume a Download from BARD

 

Dear Listers:

 

When a download I am trying to make from the BARD web site is interrupted, I try to get it to resume by finding the Resume button and using a left mouse click.  But instead of picking up where the download left off, it starts it all over again.  Is there a way using JAWS that you can resume an interrupted download where the download will resume from where it left off?

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 


moderated Re: Email inbox

paul lemm
 

Hi,

 

I’m not sure that’s possible since most  email clients sort emails in a specific order (usually by date received), however, although this isn’t a perfect solution by anymeans, as a work around you can just forward the email to yourself, this way it will show as a new message at the top of your inbox and then you could keep that copy an delete the older one.

 

Hope this helps

 

Paul

 

 

Paul

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: 14 May 2018 12:24
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Email inbox

 

Hi:

 

I was wondering if anybody new how to move the posission of an email that is quite far down on the lists of emails in the inbox.

 

Is there a way to move that message further up in the list of emails?

 

I hope I explained it properly.

 

 


moderated Re: Wire shark

Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@...>
 

Hi Nino,  I haven’t used wire shark for quite a few years.  What I did find is that the information was displayed in two windows.  You would locate an information line with the pc cursor and then you would have to use the jaws cursor to read the bottom pain that held all the related information.  Not very practical.  I found by exporting the information it was very readable only there was so much information it again was not very practical.

Its colour scheme was all grey and you had to do custom colours for everything including menus.  It can be used in a pinch but really not very useful on an ongoing basis.

I don’t know whether it has changed much since I had to use it.  I don’t know of any other tools like that.

Regards

Tom Bisset

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Wire shark

 

Good morming”

 

Happy mothers day to all those moms.

 

I was wondering if anybody new if Jaws works with wireshark, if not what could be used in its place.

 

Thank you.

 

 


moderated Re: Email inbox

david
 

Hello;

if your using outlook, the answer is no. you can move messages to another folder, you can't move messages up/down within a mail box.

 

 

       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of george b
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 7:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Email inbox

 

Whooo!!!

 

With all the email clients out there it would be helpful if you told us what email you are using

 

thanks

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nino Dagostino
Sent: May 14, 2018 4:24
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Email inbox

 

Hi:

 

I was wondering if anybody new how to move the posission of an email that is quite far down on the lists of emails in the inbox.

 

Is there a way to move that message further up in the list of emails?

 

I hope I explained it properly.

 

 


moderated Sorry about that I wasn't thinging

Nino Dagostino
 

I am using Outlook 2016

 

Thank you

 

 


moderated Re: Where can I learn about formulas for Excel?

R&J
 

If you are trying to find the numeric day of the week for any date, there are Excel functions that will do this for you.

Key the following into a cell excluding the square brakets [] [=WEEKDAY(DATE(2018,5,14))] or if you have a properly formatted date in a cell, let's say "A1", then key [=Weekday(A1)].

The result will be a numeral from 1 to 7, where 1=Sunday and 7=Saturday.  This is not what most folk desire, so if you would like the week to start on Monday=1 and end on Sunday=7, key the following formula
[=Mod(WEEKDAY(DATE(2018,5,14))+1,7)] or
[=Mod(Weekday(A1)+1,7)].

By adding 1 and using the MOD function with a devisor of 7, the MOD function results in the remainder of the first argument divided by the second argument (7).