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Re: [Bulk] The best screen resolution with JAWS

Dave Durber
 

Dave & David:

It is more than likely not JAWS that is bitching about the screen resolution.

Many programmers, for a lot of companies, have decided that their particular software, is best used with a higher resolution, than what you have set the screen resolution in Windows.

When a particular application detects that the Windows resolution is lower than that set by the software manufacturer, an error messsage is displayed telling you so. Refusing to accept the applications suggestion, that the resolution should be changed to the higher setting, does not, nor will not, necessarily mean that information on the screen will not be displayed correctly.

However, There are certain applications, where using a lower resolution, rather than a higher resolution, could or would compromize the quality of the data being displayed.

People who use screen-readers, should not allow themselves to be confused between error messages displayed by their screen-reader and error messages displayed by Windows and any particular software application. We should all learn, as far as possible, the error messages for each application.

One more thing, we as users of adaptive technology, must never fall into the able bodied persons' trap, that is blaming the adaptive technology for the majority of errors and problems on our computers. Able bodied people, are always looking to blame specialized software, especially when they cannot, or do not want to be bothered diagnosing the real problem. A bad workperson always blames their tools, while a stupid person, an ignorant person, or a lazy person, will always blame someone else or something else, to cover up their stupidity, ignorance and laziness.

Sincerely:

Dave durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] The best screen resolution with JAWS


David,

Sounds like a good start to a message to support@freedomscientific.com


Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 09:33
Subject: RE: [Bulk] The best screen resolution with JAWS


Hello Dave,

In most cases I agree with you,
Especially windows 7, the screen resolution shouldn't be an issue.

However, there's a couple client 64bit machine's I work on,
And with the screen resolution really high, jaws doesn't read didly squat
when I route jaws to pc.
However, wen I bring the resolution down to 1064 728 jaws reads fine.
Although jaws then starts to complain, that your not using the recommended
screen resolution settings.



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 12:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] The best screen resolution with JAWS

Anders,

You wrote: Earlier I used a screen resolution 1024*768, and sometime I still
use this


According to Freedom Scientific, it no longer matters what resolution you
use. I'm using 1920-1080, which is the recommended value for my laptop
display. No problems at all.

I think those days of having to worry about resolution are gone.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anders Boholdt-Petersen"
<english_correspondences@boholdt-petersen.dk>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 09:02
Subject: [Bulk] The best screen resolution with JAWS


Hi everyone,

What is the best screen resolution when I have JAWS 11 to JAWS 13 installed
on both my Windows XP and my Windows 7 64-bit computer?

Earlier I used a screen resolution 1024*768, and sometime I still use this
screen resolution.

I have tried the screen resolution Windows 7 recommended (1280*1024), but
here I could not see the Facebook Chat with JAWS.

Very thanks for the answer.

Regards,
Anders


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Re: Webvisum with Firefox

Adrian Spratt
 

Webvisum is working for me with FF8, the current version. However, I found I
had to re-enable it. Go to tools with alt-t, then o for options. You should
land on "general." If not, arrow up or down until you do.

Then shift-tab a few times until you land on the add-ons button. After this,
you may need to do some tabbing, some reading with the JAWS cursor and some
arrowing up and down. What you're looking for is extensions. When you do,
tab to a list of programs that Firefox calls extensions. Arrow down to
Webvisum, then tab. You should land on a button saying something to the
effect, "Enable Webvisum." Press the spacebar, then follow the prompt to
reboot Firefox.

Let us know if this works.

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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Swati Sinha
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:15 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Webvisum with Firefox

Dear list members,
As the subject line goes, I would like to know how to make webvisum work
with my fire fox. Earlier it used to, when I was using V3.5, then I updated
it to FF 6 then Webvisum didn't work.
To make it work for me, I again downgraded to V3.5 but still Webvisum is not
working.
Nothing is happening on pressing Control + F2, whereas, on opening FF tools
menu, I can find Webvisum submenu where I can find preference submenu, where
I get the option to log in but after filling the login details, nothing
happens. And I am not logged in to webvisum.
I am using JAWS 11.
Please help ASAP, as I have to do some capcha solving task.
I will be greatly thankful to all of you.



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Webvisum with Firefox

Swati Sinha
 

Dear list members,
As the subject line goes, I would like to know how to make webvisum work with my fire fox. Earlier it used to, when I was using V3.5, then I updated it to FF 6 then Webvisum didn't work.
To make it work for me, I again downgraded to V3.5 but still Webvisum is not working.
Nothing is happening on pressing Control + F2, whereas, on opening FF tools menu, I can find Webvisum submenu where I can find preference submenu, where I get the option to log in but after filling the login details, nothing happens. And I am not logged in to webvisum.
I am using JAWS 11.
Please help ASAP, as I have to do some capcha solving task.
I will be greatly thankful to all of you.



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Re: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Isn't there a setting in Preferences one has to engage first? I haven't
fooled with 10 yet, but remember that much from earlier posts.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Clark
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

That was my feeling as well. That's why it's mind boggling that Read Out
Loud can read it while JFW cannot. JFW is not saying that the document
is
empty it says blank as one is arrowing through the document.

Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

OK.
What is Read Out Loud? Someone has to do optical character recognition
on a
scanned picture of a document. I should think that, unless Read Out
Loud,
has built-in OCR capabilities, it would be as useless on scanned
documents
as JAWS is.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Rouillardmike@aol.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:23 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Re: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

This happens when the pdf is a scanned document. Jaws will say the
document
is empty because it is only a picture and adobe reader doesn't have OCR.
This issue can either be resolved by reading the document in read out
loud
or upgrading to jaws 13.
Mike



In a message dated 12/19/2011 4:19:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
sharonjackson03@comcast.net writes:

Hello,



I have a student who's attempting to open PDF documents found through
EBSCOhost to read using Adobe Reader 10.1. When the article is opened;
however, JAWS cannot read anything. We were able to read the document
with
Read Out Loud. Is there a setting that needs to be changed to allow
JAWS
to read the document? Your assistance is greatly appreciated concerning
this matter.



Sharon

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Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

Hi, I would suggest people try their onboard soundcards before going out and buying new ones as most laptops these days use either Intel or Realtek audio cards which have certainly worked fine for me. The headset is the main thing. I'm not sure what mine is but if I find out I'll pass it on. It works amazingly well out of the box. If you've got an Iphone you can even use that as the microphone and that works very well also.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under "options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create a set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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Re: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

Sharon Clark
 

I did try this one, but nothing happen. Thanks for the suggestion.

Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Clark Friedrichs
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 8:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Re: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

Also try this:
Start up Adobe
Under the edit menu, go to preferences
in the general menu go to internet
uncheck open pdf in browser

Good luck.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Bergen, Eric" <Eric.Bergen@mtsallstream.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:58 PM
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

Hi.
I am not sure if this will make a difference but try this.
Go to your start menu and open Adobe Reader.
Go to your edit menu and click on preferences.
Find General in the list and hit tab.
Keep tabbing until you find enable protected mode at startup and make
sure it is unchecked.
Tab to ok and hit enter.
This is what I did and I was able to read PDF documents after that.
As long as it is not a scanned document. In this case you will need OCR.
Hope this helps.
Eric.


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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Sharon Clark
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:17 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

Hello,



I have a student who's attempting to open PDF documents found through
EBSCOhost to read using Adobe Reader 10.1. When the article is opened;
however, JAWS cannot read anything. We were able to read the document
with Read Out Loud. Is there a setting that needs to be changed to
allow JAWS to read the document? Your assistance is greatly
appreciated concerning this matter.



Sharon

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Re: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

Clark Friedrichs <clark1f@...>
 

Also try this:
Start up Adobe
Under the edit menu, go to preferences
in the general menu go to internet
uncheck open pdf in browser

Good luck.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Bergen, Eric" <Eric.Bergen@mtsallstream.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:58 PM
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

Hi.
I am not sure if this will make a difference but try this.
Go to your start menu and open Adobe Reader.
Go to your edit menu and click on preferences.
Find General in the list and hit tab.
Keep tabbing until you find enable protected mode at startup and make sure it is unchecked.
Tab to ok and hit enter.
This is what I did and I was able to read PDF documents after that.
As long as it is not a scanned document. In this case you will need OCR.
Hope this helps.
Eric.


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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Clark
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:17 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

Hello,



I have a student who's attempting to open PDF documents found through EBSCOhost to read using Adobe Reader 10.1. When the article is opened; however, JAWS cannot read anything. We were able to read the document with Read Out Loud. Is there a setting that needs to be changed to allow JAWS to read the document? Your assistance is greatly appreciated concerning this matter.



Sharon

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Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Dave...
 

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

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From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under "options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create a set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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Dragon and JAWS 133

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I promised everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed Dragon Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed with its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using Naturally Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably an adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under "options," be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create a set of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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Re: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

OK.
Then it is probably a settings issue. I think Eric's suggestions may help. Hope so.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Clark
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

That was my feeling as well. That's why it's mind boggling that Read Out
Loud can read it while JFW cannot. JFW is not saying that the document is
empty it says blank as one is arrowing through the document.

Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

OK.
What is Read Out Loud? Someone has to do optical character recognition on a
scanned picture of a document. I should think that, unless Read Out Loud,
has built-in OCR capabilities, it would be as useless on scanned documents
as JAWS is.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Rouillardmike@aol.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:23 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Re: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

This happens when the pdf is a scanned document. Jaws will say the document
is empty because it is only a picture and adobe reader doesn't have OCR.
This issue can either be resolved by reading the document in read out loud
or upgrading to jaws 13.
Mike



In a message dated 12/19/2011 4:19:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
sharonjackson03@comcast.net writes:

Hello,



I have a student who's attempting to open PDF documents found through
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however, JAWS cannot read anything. We were able to read the document with
Read Out Loud. Is there a setting that needs to be changed to allow JAWS
to read the document? Your assistance is greatly appreciated concerning
this matter.



Sharon

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Re: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

Bergen, Eric <Eric.Bergen@...>
 

Hi.
I am not sure if this will make a difference but try this.
Go to your start menu and open Adobe Reader.
Go to your edit menu and click on preferences.
Find General in the list and hit tab.
Keep tabbing until you find enable protected mode at startup and make sure it is unchecked.
Tab to ok and hit enter.
This is what I did and I was able to read PDF documents after that.
As long as it is not a scanned document. In this case you will need OCR.
Hope this helps.
Eric.

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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:17 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

Hello,



I have a student who's attempting to open PDF documents found through EBSCOhost to read using Adobe Reader 10.1. When the article is opened; however, JAWS cannot read anything. We were able to read the document with Read Out Loud. Is there a setting that needs to be changed to allow JAWS to read the document? Your assistance is greatly appreciated concerning this matter.



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Re: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

Sharon Clark
 

That was my feeling as well. That's why it's mind boggling that Read Out
Loud can read it while JFW cannot. JFW is not saying that the document is
empty it says blank as one is arrowing through the document.

Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

OK.
What is Read Out Loud? Someone has to do optical character recognition on a
scanned picture of a document. I should think that, unless Read Out Loud,
has built-in OCR capabilities, it would be as useless on scanned documents
as JAWS is.


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On Behalf Of Rouillardmike@aol.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:23 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Re: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

This happens when the pdf is a scanned document. Jaws will say the document
is empty because it is only a picture and adobe reader doesn't have OCR.
This issue can either be resolved by reading the document in read out loud
or upgrading to jaws 13.
Mike



In a message dated 12/19/2011 4:19:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
sharonjackson03@comcast.net writes:

Hello,



I have a student who's attempting to open PDF documents found through
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Read Out Loud. Is there a setting that needs to be changed to allow JAWS
to read the document? Your assistance is greatly appreciated concerning
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Re: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

OK.
What is Read Out Loud? Someone has to do optical character recognition on a scanned picture of a document. I should think that, unless Read Out Loud, has built-in OCR capabilities, it would be as useless on scanned documents as JAWS is.

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Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 3:23 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Re: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

This happens when the pdf is a scanned document. Jaws will say the document
is empty because it is only a picture and adobe reader doesn't have OCR.
This issue can either be resolved by reading the document in read out loud
or upgrading to jaws 13.
Mike



In a message dated 12/19/2011 4:19:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
sharonjackson03@comcast.net writes:

Hello,



I have a student who's attempting to open PDF documents found through
EBSCOhost to read using Adobe Reader 10.1. When the article is opened;
however, JAWS cannot read anything. We were able to read the document with
Read Out Loud. Is there a setting that needs to be changed to allow JAWS
to
read the document? Your assistance is greatly appreciated concerning this
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Re: [Bulk] JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

Dave...
 

Sharon,

In response to one posting recommending upgrading to JAWS 13 I would caution
that the convenient OCR feature in JAWS 13 is not a full-blown document OCR
program for converting multiple pages -- it's good for a single page to
understand what's there, but that's about it.

Better to stick to the JAWS 12 and if available spend money on a standalone
OCR program like OmniPage, Openbook, or Kurzweil.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

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To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 13:17
Subject: [Bulk] JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1


Hello,



I have a student who's attempting to open PDF documents found through
EBSCOhost to read using Adobe Reader 10.1. When the article is opened;
however, JAWS cannot read anything. We were able to read the document with
Read Out Loud. Is there a setting that needs to be changed to allow JAWS to
read the document? Your assistance is greatly appreciated concerning this
matter.



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Re: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Whoops, I missed JFW 12 in the subject line. Ignore the bit I said about Jaws 13 then.
You need to run the pdf through OCR software to get text out of the page images.
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Re: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

Rouillardmike@...
 

This happens when the pdf is a scanned document. Jaws will say the document
is empty because it is only a picture and adobe reader doesn't have OCR.
This issue can either be resolved by reading the document in read out loud
or upgrading to jaws 13.
Mike

In a message dated 12/19/2011 4:19:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
sharonjackson03@comcast.net writes:

Hello,



I have a student who's attempting to open PDF documents found through
EBSCOhost to read using Adobe Reader 10.1. When the article is opened;
however, JAWS cannot read anything. We were able to read the document with
Read Out Loud. Is there a setting that needs to be changed to allow JAWS
to
read the document? Your assistance is greatly appreciated concerning this
matter.



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Re: JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

have you tried Jaws 13's Convenient OCR feature? Or, running the file through K1000, Openbook, or any third-party OCR package like Omnipage, FineReader, Textbridge, etc.?

If the pages are just images, pictures of text, not actual readable text (I know they look the same to your eye but they are not the same to the computer), you will need to run the file through OCR software to render readable text from the images.

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JFW 12 and Adobe Reader 10.1

Sharon Clark
 

Hello,



I have a student who's attempting to open PDF documents found through
EBSCOhost to read using Adobe Reader 10.1. When the article is opened;
however, JAWS cannot read anything. We were able to read the document with
Read Out Loud. Is there a setting that needs to be changed to allow JAWS to
read the document? Your assistance is greatly appreciated concerning this
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Re: reexplaining Outlook07 and finding next text stream

Dave...
 

Adrian,

Unfortunately There's no edit menu in Outlook 2007 so those common-sense
easy-to-use features are buried and apparently not utilized.

Ctrl+Shift+F now brings up the find dialog as I described before, with the
necessary expedient to use the Find Next button (Alt+F) to search again.

Ed's suggestion of F4 and Shift+F4 works perfectly, and is also used as
find/findNext in Excel and Word, so at least MS has become a bit more
consistent across their Office platform.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area

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From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 10:24
Subject: RE: reexplaining Outlook07 and finding next text stream


Have you checked the edit menu? I realize the find next function has either
changed or been lost since Outlook 2003, which I'm still using, but I see in
this edit menu the shortcuts for find and find next, along with ways you can
delimit searches.

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On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 12:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: reexplaining Outlook07 and finding next text stream

HI guys: Thanks for such great ideas on searching for next stream in
Outlook07! But let me reexplain how I use it hoping more ideas might come:
Suppose in a certain email I'd like to skip article via article or section
via section; each article or section is separated via a string of dashes,
asteris, number signs or other symbols. In Outlook Express I used to invoke
the Jaws Find dialogue via Insert+Control+f, set the dialogue to search for
the determined string, being safe to press Escape on finding the first
occurrence. When reading the section and wanting to go to the next one, I'd

do Insert+f3 and without having to reinvoke the Search command it'd put me
on the next occurrence of the string, thus being able to jump to the next
article or section without having to reenter the Find dialogue.

OK I'm wanting to accomplish the same in Outlook07 emails: I do
Insert+Control+f to invoke Outlook07's Find and search for the string
Insert+Control+once I
know what it uses to separate articles or sections; I read the first article
or section, and wanting to search for the next occurrence, I have to reenter
the Find dialogue with Insert+Control+f and do Enter on next; logic would
have it that via the Control+page up or page down like in Word, it'll find
the next occurrence, thus making it easier to read; yes sighted people can
click on the ribbon and click on the Find Next icon, but how would we do
this same task as Jaws users?

So my question is there another way to accomplish this task as I used to do
before with Outlook Express? Hope now we're on the same track having
explained in more detail my situation.

Thanks in advanced for any other great ideas! Lists like these really help a
lot to be able to use more efficiently our technologies!

Gerardo

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Adrian Spratt
 

Have you checked the edit menu? I realize the find next function has either
changed or been lost since Outlook 2003, which I'm still using, but I see in
this edit menu the shortcuts for find and find next, along with ways you can
delimit searches.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 12:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: reexplaining Outlook07 and finding next text stream

HI guys: Thanks for such great ideas on searching for next stream in
Outlook07! But let me reexplain how I use it hoping more ideas might come:
Suppose in a certain email I'd like to skip article via article or section
via section; each article or section is separated via a string of dashes,
asteris, number signs or other symbols. In Outlook Express I used to invoke
the Jaws Find dialogue via Insert+Control+f, set the dialogue to search for
the determined string, being safe to press Escape on finding the first
occurrence. When reading the section and wanting to go to the next one, I'd

do Insert+f3 and without having to reinvoke the Search command it'd put me
on the next occurrence of the string, thus being able to jump to the next
article or section without having to reenter the Find dialogue.

OK I'm wanting to accomplish the same in Outlook07 emails: I do
Insert+Control+f to invoke Outlook07's Find and search for the string
Insert+Control+once I
know what it uses to separate articles or sections; I read the first article
or section, and wanting to search for the next occurrence, I have to reenter
the Find dialogue with Insert+Control+f and do Enter on next; logic would
have it that via the Control+page up or page down like in Word, it'll find
the next occurrence, thus making it easier to read; yes sighted people can
click on the ribbon and click on the Find Next icon, but how would we do
this same task as Jaws users?

So my question is there another way to accomplish this task as I used to do
before with Outlook Express? Hope now we're on the same track having
explained in more detail my situation.

Thanks in advanced for any other great ideas! Lists like these really help a
lot to be able to use more efficiently our technologies!

Gerardo

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