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moderated Re: automatic update feature question

Francisco Salvador Crespo
 

Right. You have to say yes and then press the install button to start the download.

Enviado desde mi iPhone

El 20 abr 2018, a las 20:30, David Pearson <dshawnpearson@suddenlink.net> escribió:

Hello all:

Am I correct in understanding that it's only the notification of an available update that's "automatic", and not the download itself?

Thank you,



David S. Pearson




moderated automatic update feature question

David Pearson
 

Hello all:

Am I correct in understanding that it's only the notification of an available update that's "automatic", and not the download itself?

Thank you,



David S. Pearson


moderated Maybe ot: Focus Blue with NVDA

Gudrun Brunot
 

Hi guys: Apologies if this is off topic, but I am using JAWS with a Focus 14 braille display on a laptop to try to access the WordFinder dictionary suite. My local tech support guy installed a driver for the Focus Blue, so it works with JAWS. I also am trying out NVDA, and it seems that both screen readers have pluses and minuses. I can use the Focus with JAWS, but not with NVDA. I’ve downloaded the Freedom Scientific braille package installer,, but it just hangs.

 

Any hints gratefully appreciated.

 

Gudrun

 


moderated Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

Shirley Tracy
 

Thank you so much. This is great.             

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 11:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

 

Hi Shirley!

Here is the tutorial pasted right below into the email. You can just start reading it right here.

I am not sure about the reading area.

I hope this helps.

Let me know how it goes.

Here is the start of the tutorial.

Tutorial on Using the Mail, People, and Calendar Apps.

By

David Moore

All key commands for all three apps, Mail, People, and Calendar, are at the end of this tutorial.

Intruduction:

 

I will Let you know this first. When you import your email accounts into the win10 Mail app,

your contacts are automatically imported into the People app. All calendar information, is imported into the Calendar app.

So, if you want to work with your contacts, you have to do so in the people app and not the mail app. Think of it like this. Three apps work together to give you that MS outlook client experience.

The people app has all of your contacts. The mail app is where you work with and send your email messages. The Calendar app has all of your appointments and much more.

Now, while you are in the win10 mail app, you can switch to the Calendar app or the People app.

Many of the commands are the same as in WLM.

Mail for Windows 10 supports most types of email services.  You can add any of these Microsoft accounts:

Exchange, Office 365, Outlook.com, Hotmail, Live.com, and MSN.com.  You can also add any of these accounts:

Gmail, Yahoo Mail, iCloud, or an account with a POP or IMAP server.

 

Section One

Launching the Windows 10 Mail App

So, let us consider how you can launch the mail app for the first time. The way I did it, was to press the windows key or CTRL+Escape and type mail. I heard windows mail app trusted windows store app.

Now, press enter, and the mail app will open. There you go, you have launched the mail app for the first time. The first time you open Mail, you'll land on the Welcome screen. Press Enter on Get Started. Now, you are ready to start using the Win10 Mail App. If you have a Microsoft Account, your MS email account should already be imported into the mail app.

 

Section Two:

Putting the Mail, Calendar, and People apps on your Desktop, or pinning them to your taskbar:

Finally, let us begin to learn how to use these three apps.

You may want to pin all three apps, Mail, Calendar, and People, to your taskbar, or put them on your desktop as short cuts.

To put them as short cuts on your Desktop, press Windows key+R to open the run dialog.

just type:

shell:appsfolder

In a second, all of your apps will be in a list. Just press the first letter of the one you want until you hear, Mail, for example.

Now, press your applications key or Shift+F10.

Now, press the up arrow key once to hear:

Create short cut.

Enter on that, and you will hear:

Short cut cannot be created here, do you want to put it on the desktop instead?

Just press enter, and the Mail app will be on your Desktop.

To pen it to the taskbar, just press the Windows Key or CTRL+Escape and type Mail, for example.

When you hear Mail, just press the appllications key or Shift+F10 and arrow down to:

Pin to taskbar and press enter.

The Mail app will be on your Taskbar.

You can do the same for the Calendar and People apps.

 

Section Three

A Few Key Commands to get started:

Here are a few commands to use the mail app. Tab key: The tab key will get you anywhere you need to go in the mail app. Also, F6 will take you to different sections of the app. These three apps, mail, people, and calendar apps have been made so accessible, that you can use the PC cursor with JAWS. Also, no object navigation needs to be done in these three apps with NVDA. Narrator works great as well.

When you read messages with Narrator, Scan mode needs to be activated by pressing:

Caps Lock+Spacebar.

That command toggles the Scan Mode on and off with Narrator.

You only want to turn on Scan Mode to read messages.

You want it off the rest of the time. Even when you type a message, Scan Mode needs to be turnned off.

Scan Mode is just for reading.

When a message is opened with JAWS, you are put in a virtual viewer so you can use the virtual cursor, just like in a web page.

Now, to work with messages:

to send your message, press

alt+S.

To reply to a message:

press ctrl+R.

to forward a message:

press CTRL+F.

to create a new message:

press CTRL+N.

As you type the email address, choices will populate to choose from.

To insert an attachment, press Alt+I.

You can then brows for the file you want to attach.

All other key commands for all three of these apps, will be put at the end of this tutorial.

 

Section Four:

Importing your first account into the Mail App

Now, let us add our first account.

From the list of messages for your MS account, tab to manage accounts and press enter.

If you do not have an MS email account imported in to the Mail app, just Tab to Manage Accounts and press enter.

Next, tab to the Add account button and press enter.

You will be in a list of account types you can add. In the Choose an account dialog, use the Down Arrow key to go through the list of account types (Outlook.com, Exchange, Google, Yahoo Mail, and so

on). When you hear the name of your account type, press Enter. For example, if you want to add a Gmail account, press enter on Google. Next, Enter the email address for the account that you want to add. Now, tab to the password box, and enter your password.

Press the Tab key to move to the Sign in button and press enter.

Now, press enter again on the:

done button.

Your email account should import into the Mail app in seconds, and your emails will be in your in box from the last three months.

Now, if it does not work to import an account by choosing Google, for example, any account will import into this choice:

Go to the account choice:

other account, IMAP or POP.

Any account, Pop or IMAP, will import under this choice, even a Google account.

Only a few POP email Accounts will have to be imported by hand with all of the settings.

For most accounts, your email and password will be enough to import the account.

The last account choice, is the advanced account. Enter on this last choice if you need to enter in all of your account settings by hand.

The only reason why you need the advanced account choice is to import a few older POP 3 accounts and set them up by hand.

To import all of your accounts:

Just follow the same instructions written above.

You will need to press enter on Manage Accounts, and enter on Add account, for each account you import.

It is important that you know that your contacts for your accounts, are imported into the People app.

You can get to the People App right from the Mail app.

Also, all calendar data partaning to your accounts, is imported into the Calendar App.

This is how all three apps work together to give you the entire Email Client experience.

After you add your accounts, notice in the manage accounts menu, you will see a choice to link accounts. This means, that you could have all messages from all of your accounts go into one inbox. I would not do this. Each account should have its own inbox.

Now, let us press enter on one of the accounts that you just added and see what happens.

If you press enter on one of your accounts, there is a choice to delete the account if you decide you do not want it in the mail app anymore.

Also, if you press enter on the sync settings, you will see that your emails from three months ago will import. You can change this if you want.

Also, You can change some settings about how the emails are synced in the mail app, but I would not mess with that at all.

Now, just press escape to get out of that, and you will be back in your list of accounts. Press escape to close the manage accounts pane.

We are all done with the Manage accounts option.

 

Section Five:

Navigating the Maiol App with the Tab Key

Now, we have all of our accounts imported intothe Mail App.

Make sure that you are on a folder list of messages for one of your accounts.

A list of messages will be our starting point, and we will begin to tab.

Now I will Tab.

I am on my list of emails for my MS Outlook account.

Tabbing:

I hear Navigation button collapsed.

You want to press enter to hear:

Navigation button expanded.

If you do not do this, you will not see everything in the Mail app.

Tab again, and you hear:

New Mail Button.

This is what you activate by pressing the key command:

CTRL+N

You do not need this button.

Tab: and you hear:

Manage accounts.

That is where we just were when you imported and customized all of your email accounts.

Tab:

You will see a list of all of your accounts once you import them into the Mail app.

If you press enter on an account, the In Box of messages for that account will open and you are put in the inbox of messages.

Now, we will tab from your list of accounts.

You have Folders Button.

Sub Section:

Folders Button.

When you press enter on Folders Button, there is a lot you can do in here.

In this Sub Section, We will talk about all you can do after you press enter on Folders Button.

Press enter on Folders Button:

The first thing you will be on, is a virticle list of all of your folders for that email account.

You can just up and down arrow to the folder you want, and press enter.

You are then put right in the list of messages for that folder.

Instead of pressing enter on a folder, if you tab once, you can press enter on:

Create New Folder

As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the new folder.

This will create a new folder for that account.

This is all in the Folders Button.

Press enter on Folders Button, again, if you are not still in that pane.

On your list of folders, you can arrow to a folder, and press:

Applications Key or Shift+F10.

You can now down arrow through the following choices:

Add to Favorites Button

Pressing Enter will put that folder on your favorites list of folders, so you do not have to keep coming into the Folders Button to find a folder.

Next choice when pressing applications Key:

, Create new subfolder Button

Pressing enter on that choice, will allow you to create a sub folder under that main folder you arrowed to.

As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the sub folder, and press enter.

The third choice:

Rename Button

The fourth choice:

Delete Button

Pressing enter there wil delete the folder.

Fifth Choice:

Move Button

Sixth Choice:

Empty folder Button

Seventh and last Choice:

Pin to Start Button

To review:

When you arrow to a folder, you can press:

Applications Key or Shift+F10,

and you get a menu of seven choices listed above.

You can press enter on any of those choices to do the action that it says.

We are all done with the Folders Button.

Now, make sure that you are on the Folders Button, and we will start tabbing again.

If you tab from the Folders Button,

You are on your list of Favorite Folders I mentioned.

You can just arrow down through this list of folders that you chose to be your favorite folders.

You do not have to enter on the Folders Button to get to these.

They are right here in a list.

I have my In Box folder, Sent Folder, Trash Folder, and a Saved folder that I created, in my Favorites list.

I keep those four folders in that favorites list, so I do not have to keep pressing enter on the Folders Button to get to those Folders.

I can just tab over to this list of four folders that I use the most.

Pressing enter on one of those four folders will put me right in the list of messages for that folder.

You always get put right on the list of messages when you enter on any folder.

Now, we will tab from this favorites list, and we get:

Moore Button.

This is the exact copy of the Folders Button LOL!

Forget the More Button LOL!

Tab again:

Switch to Calendar Button:

Tab:

Switch to People Button:

Pressing enter on one of those buttons, will Open one of those apps.

You can have all three opened at the same time.

Tab:

Settings Button:

 

Sub Section:

We have important stuff here, if we press enter on Settings Button, so this will be another sub section, like Folders Button.

Settings Button

Press Enter on Settings Button.

Now, let us look at the settings in the mail app. There are some settings that you might want to change or work with in these groups of settings . The two groups of settings you should open are the reading and signature settings. Do not mess with the other groups of settings.

Reading Settings

There are two choices you might want to change in this settings group.

You can check or uncheck carrot browsing.

I would leave carrot browsing unchecked in the reading settings group.

Now, in this reading group, there is also a button that turns on and off conversation view.

You definitely want this button checked, because your messages will be grouped into their respective threads.

You can delete the entire thread if your messages are in conversation view.

Press enter on the back button to close the reading group.

Each group of Settings has a back button you can press enter on to get out of that group, and you are taken back to the groups of settings.

Signature Settings Group:

This is the only other group of settings where you need to do anything.

Press Enter on Signature Settings.

In here, you can add a signature, or check all accounts to have the same signature

If you check to have a signature, and press Tab, there is a signature that is there by default.

It says:

sent from mail for windows 10.

If you want to create your own signature, check the signature, and over right that default signature to add your own signature you want to appear after every message that you send.

You can have different signatures for each account, or have the same signature for all accounts by checking all accounts.

If you want no signature, you can just press Spacebar to uncheck the signature toggle.

Press the Back Button, to get out of the Signature Settings Group.

If you press:

Escape

You are back on the Settings Button, where we were tabbing across the Mail App.

That is pretty much all I would worry about in settings.

There are just a few more tabs, before we are back to the list of messages.

Tab from Settings Button:

There is a search edit box.

If you type any name, or phrase, and so on in that search box,

it will narrow down the list of email messages that have that Name or phrase in them.

This is a great way to find a particular message very quickly.

I use this a lot.

You can get right to that search box,

by pressing:

CTRL+E

You do not have to tab to that LOL!

Tab, and you have:

Sync this View Button.

If you press that, your messages will load more quickly, but they load quickly anyway for me, and I do not have to press enter on that:

sync this View button.

Tab again, and you have:

Enter Selection Mode Button.

This is important.

When you press enter on that button, you are on your list of messages in that folder, but now, there is a difference.

There is now a check box before each message that you can press spacebar on to check that message. You can check as many messages as you want.

Now, if you shift tab twice, you are back to where the:

Enter sellection Mode Button was.

Now, there is a check box there that says, Select all, check box not checked.

you can press spacebar to check all of your messages. You have to tab twice to get back to the list of messages, but now, they are all checked.

After you check messages, you can press the:

applications Key or Shift+F10

and you will have the following choices:

Archive, Delete, Move, and a few less important choices in that context menu.

If you press enter on delete, all messages that are selected will be deleted. If you press enter on move, your list of all folders come up, and you can move your selected messages to another folder.

Just press enter on the folder, and the selected messages are moved to that folder.

 

Section Six:

Working with your messages:

Now, we can start working with with our email messages for what ever account you pick from the list of accounts. All the accounts will be in a virticle list, and you just press enter on what ever account you want to work with, and you will be placed in the inbox and the messages will load.

Here we go LOL!

Let us arrow through the messages in the inbox and read some of our messages.

Just enter on the message you want to open. To read messages with NVDA, you must be in brows mode.

When you type a message, you must be in focus mode.

The only time you want to be in Brows Mode, is to read the messages. To attach a file to the message, for example, you want to be in Focus mode with NVDA.

With Narrator, you want to be in scan mode to read messages.

To do everything else, even type a message, you need to turn off scan mode. Narrator works very well with the mail app.

Now, with JAWS, you are put in a virtual environment just like on the Internet. The virtual PC cursor, will allow you to select and copy information that is right in the message.

when you are done reading that message, just press escape to get out of the message and back to the list of messages

You do not have to do anything with JAWS to do all that you want to do in the mail app, even type a message.

Now, let me give you some important key commands right here.

tab gets you anywhere in the mail app you want to be. Tabbing will get you to the list of your accounts, and the folders button, that you enter on to get a full list of folders for that account. When you are on the list of folders, tab to the more button and press enter to do more with your folders, like create a new folder. To create a sub folder for a particular folder Tab to the more button again, and press enter. Down arrow to creat a sub folder. and arrow to which folder you want to create the sub folder for and tab to create, and press enter. . Now, you can type the name of the sub folder you want, and press enter. That is how you create a sub folder of a folder that is already there. When you are on a message in the list, you can press the applications key or shift+F10 and get choices of what you can do with that message. One of these choices is move. If you enter on move, you will get a list of folders you can move that message to. I created a folder called saved messages. So when I want to save a message, I just move the message to my saved messages folder. If you press delete, the message goes in the trash folder. To send a message, press ctrl+N. You are put in the to: edit box. Just type in the email, tab to subject, and tab to write your message. To send a message, press Alt+S, and you are back on the list of messages in your inbox. After you open a message and read it, you can reply to it by pressing CTRL+R. Just type your message, and press alt+S to send your reply. You will be in the list of messages, and just press the delete key to delete that message. To forward a message, just press ctrl+F. To spell check your message before sending, just press F7.

Tabs on the ribbon of the mail app:

Here we go with the ribbon. When you are in a message, three tabs show up on the ribbon. Just press the alt key to get to the ribbon. The first tab you will hear is the format tab. Right arrow to the insert tab, and right arrow again to the third and last tab, the options tab. Now, if you press alt a second time while you are still in the mail app, you will be on the tab that you were last working with. If you were working with the options tab lastly, the options tab will show up, and you will have to left arrow to get back to insert and format. You do wrap around in a circle with a couple of other choices in there as you wrap. On any of these tabs, just press the down arrow to get to all of the choices for that tab. Then, press tab to tab through all of the choices. For example, to insert an attachment into an email, press the alt key, and arrow to the insert tab. Then, press the down arrow, and you are right on the files choice. It will not say attach, this is very important. Pressing down arrow on the insert tab, allows you to insert different things into your email. Remember, you can just press:

Alt+I to attach a file.

To attach anything else, you must go to the insert tab on the ribbon. The ribbon is not important, unless you want to insert different things into the email, or if you want to format the email.

Other choices to insert, are table, link, and so on. These are different things that you can insert in your email. Press enter on files, and you can brows your computer to find a file to insert or attach, and press enter on the open button. Now, you are put back on your message you are composing. If you press Shift+tab one time, you will be on your file that you attached to your email. That is how people will find your attachments. They will just shift tab to hear all of the files you inserted or attached to your email. Now, Use Shift+Tab again to move focus to the subject line, and press Shift+Tab again to hear the sender’s name. In other words, when you are in a message, press Shift+tab to hear all of the information like the subject, the sender, the time and date, and so on. There are not key commands to read this information to you like in other clients. When you finish reading the message, press the Escape key to return to the message list. That is the key. If you just press escape, you go back to your list of messages. If you press delete on a message in the list, it goes to the trash folder right away. Now, if you select some text in your email, just press alt, and arrow to the format tab, and press down arrow to the format choices if you want to format your email. just tab through the choices. There are many, you can do about anything here to format your email text. For example, if you down arrow on the format tab, there will be choices to bold, underline, and to do other things to the text that you select in your email that you are composing. Now, for the options tab, the third and last tab, you will not need to use, but feel free to check out the options. The option for Spell Checking, is the same as pressing F7 in your message. Now, here is the thing about spell checking in the mail app. You can go to the win10 settings app, by pressing windows+I to have win10 correct much of your spelling as you type. This only works though, in a win10 app. The mail app qualifies for that. So, in settings, arrow to the devices group and press enter. Then, go to the type choice and press enter. Check two check boxes. The first says something like correct spelling, and the second one says something like high light words that are misspelled. Check those two check boxes and press enter. Now, when you are in the mail app, most of the words will be automatically corrected as you type them. However, this feature will not correct all misspelled words. This is where you press F7 to do a total spell check. Important: There is not a way to have the mail app spell check every message automatically when you send it like with WLM. You definitely have to spell check every message that you compose before you send it just like with each document in Word.

Well, we have covered everything with the mail app itself.

Now, I will show you quickly how to use the people app and calendar app, and then you can use all three apps together as one email client.

People app:

Launch the People app, and tab a few times. You will tab by a new button, where you can manually enter the information for a new contact. If you tab passed the new button, you will come to a list of contacts. You cannot use first letter navigation to jump to a certain contact, but here is what you can do. Tab one more time, and you will be in a list of letters of the alphabet. Again, you cannot use first letter navigation, like you can now use in the all apps. Just arrow down to the letter you want, and shift+tab back to the list of contact starting with that letter. Find the name you want, and tab a few more times. There will be an edit where you can edit the contact's information. Tab passed that, and you will come to profile. Tab one more time, and you will be on their email. To copy that email, you have to press the applications key, or shift+F10, and press enter on copy. You will then have that person's email copied to the clip board. You can go to the mail app, and paste that into the to: edit box to send them an email. That is it with the people app. Remember, your contacts are imported into the people app. As you type an email into the mail app, the populated choices come from the people app.

Calendar app:

Launch the calendar app, and press alt+ctrl+4 to get into month view. You are put on a grid of days of the week. You will land on to day. It will say the date as well. For example, you will hear Friday, October 28. You also hear how many events are linked with that day, like birthday's of your contacts and so on. Tab to each event, and press enter on the event to get the details of the event. If you shift+tab, you will go back to the day of those events. If you press right and left arrow, you will go forward a day or back a day. Up arrow takes you a week before from that day, and downarrow takes you a week ahead of that day. If you want to schedule an event for a certain day, just press enter on that day, and a dialog will come up for you to enter all of the information for the appointment or event, and there is an okay or done button. There you go! That is how you read days, the events for those days, and how to schedule an event for that day. That is about it for the calendar app.

 

Here are many keyboard shortcuts to use all three apps:

Account Manual Sync (Send and retrieve new mail)

CTRL+M

Or

F9

Mark as read

CTRL+Q

Mark as unread

CTRL+U

Toggle the important property on a conversation

CTRL+SHIFT+G

Delete a conversation

CTRL+D

Or

DEL

Archive a conversation

BACKSPACE

Reply to current mail

CTRL+R

Reply all

CTRL+SHIFT+R

Forward current mail

CTRL+F

Search

CTRL+E

Or

F3

Create a new mail

CTRL+N

Or

CTRL+SHIFT+M

Add Attachment

ALT+I

Send mail

ALT+S

Or

Ctrl + Enter

Switch to Inbox

CTRL+SHIFT+I

Switch to Outbox

CTRL+SHIFT+O

Zoom in

CTRL++ (Plus key on numpad)

Zoom out

CTRL+- (Minus key on numpad)

Move between regions

F6

Toggle Caret Browsing

F7

Key commands for the Calendar app:

Accept Meeting Invitation

Alt+C

Decline Meeting Invitation

Alt+D

Tentative Meeting Invitation

Alt+N

Move to View

CTRL+SHIFT+V

Switch to the calendar in the mail app

CTRL+2

 

Well, I hope you get so much good out of this tutorial , and you can get a lot out of using the mail app, people, and calendar apps. You can do a lot with three apps. I would pin all three of them to the taskbar, and have them all opened at the same time

Take care,

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shirley Tracy
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 11:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

 

                David, I would appreciate the tutorial. Today, I had trouble with the reading pane not being spoken in JAWS. I called Microsoft and the rep ran a repair for JAWS (not sure if that was needed or not, but now it works). Since it worked yesterday, I can’t understand what went wrong.

 

Thanks again.

Shirley

 

Stracy5@...

 

  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 3:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

 

Hi!

I am so glad you are using the Mail app in Windows 10. I have a tutorial if you want it. It is a text tutorial.

Often, I have to shift+Tab back to my inbox of messages.

Also, if you want to create filters, you can get on the email web site, like Gmail, for example, and easily create the Labels, there, they are called, and they will be synced with the mail app.

Narrator does a great job at reading the search results when you start typing in an email address. You can turn Narrator on right over JAWS, and turn it back off after you find the right email address.

Those are a few tricks that I use.

Take care, and ask any questions.

I fly through a thousand emails a day, and respond, forward, and add attachments.

The mail app is very usable.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shirley Tracy
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

 

                Hi Steve and all,

 

I am actually using Microsoft Mail for Windows 10 now. Yesterday, I couldn’t use it, but today, I’ve got it down. (At least I think I have).

 

Persistence pays—plus I found something on the web from Microsoft that describes how to use it with screen readers like JAWS. While things aren’t totally as described, I’ve been able to figure out how to make it work—but I’m sure I’m far from using it fully.

 

Thank you all again for your input. This list has really helped.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 8:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

 

Instead of using a browser for email, why not try a regular Windows mail

program, like Thunderbird, or Windows Live Mail. I would not, however,

recommend the native Windows 10 email client.

 

 

Your JAWS will tell you when there is an update, and invite you to

download and install it by activating the appropriate button in the

dialog. Ditto FSCast podcast episodes.

 

 

On 4/17/2018 8:32 PM, Shirley Tracy wrote:

> Hi everyone,

> I posted earlier I had bought an all-in-one computer, but got chicken and returned it. The one I have set up now is much more powerful--refurbished but works really well.

> Here are my questions:

> 1. Do you all have trouble using EDGE? I generally use Internet Explorer or I used to sometimes use Firefox. When trying to read email today, I discovered that Edge will show me the messages but won't open the links. Is there a JAWS key that will open them? I'm using Roadrunner email through Mail.brighthouse.com. I'm using Internet Explorer right now, but I'd use Edge if it's possible.

> 2. I installed JAWS 1820 from the disk. I then downloaded the March update from the website. Do I need to download each of the other updates? Or will they be in the March update?

> Windows 10 doesn't seem too difficult. It's just the learning curve that makes it seem daunting.

> Thank you all for your patience. At least I'm trying to learn. (smile).

>   Shirley

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Reading columns in word with 2016 with jaws

Mario
 

what version of JAWS?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Ivan Gonzalez [mailto:guitarchants@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, Apr 20, 2018 8:49 AM EST
To: Jaws Support
Subject: Reading columns in word with 2016 with jaws

Hi guys! Question: how do I read a document with columns? It's not a
table, but the list is devided into left column and right. What's the
command to read them in order?



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moderated Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

David Moore
 

Hi Shirley!

Here is the tutorial pasted right below into the email. You can just start reading it right here.

I am not sure about the reading area.

I hope this helps.

Let me know how it goes.

Here is the start of the tutorial.

Tutorial on Using the Mail, People, and Calendar Apps.

By

David Moore

All key commands for all three apps, Mail, People, and Calendar, are at the end of this tutorial.

Intruduction:

 

I will Let you know this first. When you import your email accounts into the win10 Mail app,

your contacts are automatically imported into the People app. All calendar information, is imported into the Calendar app.

So, if you want to work with your contacts, you have to do so in the people app and not the mail app. Think of it like this. Three apps work together to give you that MS outlook client experience.

The people app has all of your contacts. The mail app is where you work with and send your email messages. The Calendar app has all of your appointments and much more.

Now, while you are in the win10 mail app, you can switch to the Calendar app or the People app.

Many of the commands are the same as in WLM.

Mail for Windows 10 supports most types of email services.  You can add any of these Microsoft accounts:

Exchange, Office 365, Outlook.com, Hotmail, Live.com, and MSN.com.  You can also add any of these accounts:

Gmail, Yahoo Mail, iCloud, or an account with a POP or IMAP server.

 

Section One

Launching the Windows 10 Mail App

So, let us consider how you can launch the mail app for the first time. The way I did it, was to press the windows key or CTRL+Escape and type mail. I heard windows mail app trusted windows store app.

Now, press enter, and the mail app will open. There you go, you have launched the mail app for the first time. The first time you open Mail, you'll land on the Welcome screen. Press Enter on Get Started. Now, you are ready to start using the Win10 Mail App. If you have a Microsoft Account, your MS email account should already be imported into the mail app.

 

Section Two:

Putting the Mail, Calendar, and People apps on your Desktop, or pinning them to your taskbar:

Finally, let us begin to learn how to use these three apps.

You may want to pin all three apps, Mail, Calendar, and People, to your taskbar, or put them on your desktop as short cuts.

To put them as short cuts on your Desktop, press Windows key+R to open the run dialog.

just type:

shell:appsfolder

In a second, all of your apps will be in a list. Just press the first letter of the one you want until you hear, Mail, for example.

Now, press your applications key or Shift+F10.

Now, press the up arrow key once to hear:

Create short cut.

Enter on that, and you will hear:

Short cut cannot be created here, do you want to put it on the desktop instead?

Just press enter, and the Mail app will be on your Desktop.

To pen it to the taskbar, just press the Windows Key or CTRL+Escape and type Mail, for example.

When you hear Mail, just press the appllications key or Shift+F10 and arrow down to:

Pin to taskbar and press enter.

The Mail app will be on your Taskbar.

You can do the same for the Calendar and People apps.

 

Section Three

A Few Key Commands to get started:

Here are a few commands to use the mail app. Tab key: The tab key will get you anywhere you need to go in the mail app. Also, F6 will take you to different sections of the app. These three apps, mail, people, and calendar apps have been made so accessible, that you can use the PC cursor with JAWS. Also, no object navigation needs to be done in these three apps with NVDA. Narrator works great as well.

When you read messages with Narrator, Scan mode needs to be activated by pressing:

Caps Lock+Spacebar.

That command toggles the Scan Mode on and off with Narrator.

You only want to turn on Scan Mode to read messages.

You want it off the rest of the time. Even when you type a message, Scan Mode needs to be turnned off.

Scan Mode is just for reading.

When a message is opened with JAWS, you are put in a virtual viewer so you can use the virtual cursor, just like in a web page.

Now, to work with messages:

to send your message, press

alt+S.

To reply to a message:

press ctrl+R.

to forward a message:

press CTRL+F.

to create a new message:

press CTRL+N.

As you type the email address, choices will populate to choose from.

To insert an attachment, press Alt+I.

You can then brows for the file you want to attach.

All other key commands for all three of these apps, will be put at the end of this tutorial.

 

Section Four:

Importing your first account into the Mail App

Now, let us add our first account.

From the list of messages for your MS account, tab to manage accounts and press enter.

If you do not have an MS email account imported in to the Mail app, just Tab to Manage Accounts and press enter.

Next, tab to the Add account button and press enter.

You will be in a list of account types you can add. In the Choose an account dialog, use the Down Arrow key to go through the list of account types (Outlook.com, Exchange, Google, Yahoo Mail, and so

on). When you hear the name of your account type, press Enter. For example, if you want to add a Gmail account, press enter on Google. Next, Enter the email address for the account that you want to add. Now, tab to the password box, and enter your password.

Press the Tab key to move to the Sign in button and press enter.

Now, press enter again on the:

done button.

Your email account should import into the Mail app in seconds, and your emails will be in your in box from the last three months.

Now, if it does not work to import an account by choosing Google, for example, any account will import into this choice:

Go to the account choice:

other account, IMAP or POP.

Any account, Pop or IMAP, will import under this choice, even a Google account.

Only a few POP email Accounts will have to be imported by hand with all of the settings.

For most accounts, your email and password will be enough to import the account.

The last account choice, is the advanced account. Enter on this last choice if you need to enter in all of your account settings by hand.

The only reason why you need the advanced account choice is to import a few older POP 3 accounts and set them up by hand.

To import all of your accounts:

Just follow the same instructions written above.

You will need to press enter on Manage Accounts, and enter on Add account, for each account you import.

It is important that you know that your contacts for your accounts, are imported into the People app.

You can get to the People App right from the Mail app.

Also, all calendar data partaning to your accounts, is imported into the Calendar App.

This is how all three apps work together to give you the entire Email Client experience.

After you add your accounts, notice in the manage accounts menu, you will see a choice to link accounts. This means, that you could have all messages from all of your accounts go into one inbox. I would not do this. Each account should have its own inbox.

Now, let us press enter on one of the accounts that you just added and see what happens.

If you press enter on one of your accounts, there is a choice to delete the account if you decide you do not want it in the mail app anymore.

Also, if you press enter on the sync settings, you will see that your emails from three months ago will import. You can change this if you want.

Also, You can change some settings about how the emails are synced in the mail app, but I would not mess with that at all.

Now, just press escape to get out of that, and you will be back in your list of accounts. Press escape to close the manage accounts pane.

We are all done with the Manage accounts option.

 

Section Five:

Navigating the Maiol App with the Tab Key

Now, we have all of our accounts imported intothe Mail App.

Make sure that you are on a folder list of messages for one of your accounts.

A list of messages will be our starting point, and we will begin to tab.

Now I will Tab.

I am on my list of emails for my MS Outlook account.

Tabbing:

I hear Navigation button collapsed.

You want to press enter to hear:

Navigation button expanded.

If you do not do this, you will not see everything in the Mail app.

Tab again, and you hear:

New Mail Button.

This is what you activate by pressing the key command:

CTRL+N

You do not need this button.

Tab: and you hear:

Manage accounts.

That is where we just were when you imported and customized all of your email accounts.

Tab:

You will see a list of all of your accounts once you import them into the Mail app.

If you press enter on an account, the In Box of messages for that account will open and you are put in the inbox of messages.

Now, we will tab from your list of accounts.

You have Folders Button.

Sub Section:

Folders Button.

When you press enter on Folders Button, there is a lot you can do in here.

In this Sub Section, We will talk about all you can do after you press enter on Folders Button.

Press enter on Folders Button:

The first thing you will be on, is a virticle list of all of your folders for that email account.

You can just up and down arrow to the folder you want, and press enter.

You are then put right in the list of messages for that folder.

Instead of pressing enter on a folder, if you tab once, you can press enter on:

Create New Folder

As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the new folder.

This will create a new folder for that account.

This is all in the Folders Button.

Press enter on Folders Button, again, if you are not still in that pane.

On your list of folders, you can arrow to a folder, and press:

Applications Key or Shift+F10.

You can now down arrow through the following choices:

Add to Favorites Button

Pressing Enter will put that folder on your favorites list of folders, so you do not have to keep coming into the Folders Button to find a folder.

Next choice when pressing applications Key:

, Create new subfolder Button

Pressing enter on that choice, will allow you to create a sub folder under that main folder you arrowed to.

As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the sub folder, and press enter.

The third choice:

Rename Button

The fourth choice:

Delete Button

Pressing enter there wil delete the folder.

Fifth Choice:

Move Button

Sixth Choice:

Empty folder Button

Seventh and last Choice:

Pin to Start Button

To review:

When you arrow to a folder, you can press:

Applications Key or Shift+F10,

and you get a menu of seven choices listed above.

You can press enter on any of those choices to do the action that it says.

We are all done with the Folders Button.

Now, make sure that you are on the Folders Button, and we will start tabbing again.

If you tab from the Folders Button,

You are on your list of Favorite Folders I mentioned.

You can just arrow down through this list of folders that you chose to be your favorite folders.

You do not have to enter on the Folders Button to get to these.

They are right here in a list.

I have my In Box folder, Sent Folder, Trash Folder, and a Saved folder that I created, in my Favorites list.

I keep those four folders in that favorites list, so I do not have to keep pressing enter on the Folders Button to get to those Folders.

I can just tab over to this list of four folders that I use the most.

Pressing enter on one of those four folders will put me right in the list of messages for that folder.

You always get put right on the list of messages when you enter on any folder.

Now, we will tab from this favorites list, and we get:

Moore Button.

This is the exact copy of the Folders Button LOL!

Forget the More Button LOL!

Tab again:

Switch to Calendar Button:

Tab:

Switch to People Button:

Pressing enter on one of those buttons, will Open one of those apps.

You can have all three opened at the same time.

Tab:

Settings Button:

 

Sub Section:

We have important stuff here, if we press enter on Settings Button, so this will be another sub section, like Folders Button.

Settings Button

Press Enter on Settings Button.

Now, let us look at the settings in the mail app. There are some settings that you might want to change or work with in these groups of settings . The two groups of settings you should open are the reading and signature settings. Do not mess with the other groups of settings.

Reading Settings

There are two choices you might want to change in this settings group.

You can check or uncheck carrot browsing.

I would leave carrot browsing unchecked in the reading settings group.

Now, in this reading group, there is also a button that turns on and off conversation view.

You definitely want this button checked, because your messages will be grouped into their respective threads.

You can delete the entire thread if your messages are in conversation view.

Press enter on the back button to close the reading group.

Each group of Settings has a back button you can press enter on to get out of that group, and you are taken back to the groups of settings.

Signature Settings Group:

This is the only other group of settings where you need to do anything.

Press Enter on Signature Settings.

In here, you can add a signature, or check all accounts to have the same signature

If you check to have a signature, and press Tab, there is a signature that is there by default.

It says:

sent from mail for windows 10.

If you want to create your own signature, check the signature, and over right that default signature to add your own signature you want to appear after every message that you send.

You can have different signatures for each account, or have the same signature for all accounts by checking all accounts.

If you want no signature, you can just press Spacebar to uncheck the signature toggle.

Press the Back Button, to get out of the Signature Settings Group.

If you press:

Escape

You are back on the Settings Button, where we were tabbing across the Mail App.

That is pretty much all I would worry about in settings.

There are just a few more tabs, before we are back to the list of messages.

Tab from Settings Button:

There is a search edit box.

If you type any name, or phrase, and so on in that search box,

it will narrow down the list of email messages that have that Name or phrase in them.

This is a great way to find a particular message very quickly.

I use this a lot.

You can get right to that search box,

by pressing:

CTRL+E

You do not have to tab to that LOL!

Tab, and you have:

Sync this View Button.

If you press that, your messages will load more quickly, but they load quickly anyway for me, and I do not have to press enter on that:

sync this View button.

Tab again, and you have:

Enter Selection Mode Button.

This is important.

When you press enter on that button, you are on your list of messages in that folder, but now, there is a difference.

There is now a check box before each message that you can press spacebar on to check that message. You can check as many messages as you want.

Now, if you shift tab twice, you are back to where the:

Enter sellection Mode Button was.

Now, there is a check box there that says, Select all, check box not checked.

you can press spacebar to check all of your messages. You have to tab twice to get back to the list of messages, but now, they are all checked.

After you check messages, you can press the:

applications Key or Shift+F10

and you will have the following choices:

Archive, Delete, Move, and a few less important choices in that context menu.

If you press enter on delete, all messages that are selected will be deleted. If you press enter on move, your list of all folders come up, and you can move your selected messages to another folder.

Just press enter on the folder, and the selected messages are moved to that folder.

 

Section Six:

Working with your messages:

Now, we can start working with with our email messages for what ever account you pick from the list of accounts. All the accounts will be in a virticle list, and you just press enter on what ever account you want to work with, and you will be placed in the inbox and the messages will load.

Here we go LOL!

Let us arrow through the messages in the inbox and read some of our messages.

Just enter on the message you want to open. To read messages with NVDA, you must be in brows mode.

When you type a message, you must be in focus mode.

The only time you want to be in Brows Mode, is to read the messages. To attach a file to the message, for example, you want to be in Focus mode with NVDA.

With Narrator, you want to be in scan mode to read messages.

To do everything else, even type a message, you need to turn off scan mode. Narrator works very well with the mail app.

Now, with JAWS, you are put in a virtual environment just like on the Internet. The virtual PC cursor, will allow you to select and copy information that is right in the message.

when you are done reading that message, just press escape to get out of the message and back to the list of messages

You do not have to do anything with JAWS to do all that you want to do in the mail app, even type a message.

Now, let me give you some important key commands right here.

tab gets you anywhere in the mail app you want to be. Tabbing will get you to the list of your accounts, and the folders button, that you enter on to get a full list of folders for that account. When you are on the list of folders, tab to the more button and press enter to do more with your folders, like create a new folder. To create a sub folder for a particular folder Tab to the more button again, and press enter. Down arrow to creat a sub folder. and arrow to which folder you want to create the sub folder for and tab to create, and press enter. . Now, you can type the name of the sub folder you want, and press enter. That is how you create a sub folder of a folder that is already there. When you are on a message in the list, you can press the applications key or shift+F10 and get choices of what you can do with that message. One of these choices is move. If you enter on move, you will get a list of folders you can move that message to. I created a folder called saved messages. So when I want to save a message, I just move the message to my saved messages folder. If you press delete, the message goes in the trash folder. To send a message, press ctrl+N. You are put in the to: edit box. Just type in the email, tab to subject, and tab to write your message. To send a message, press Alt+S, and you are back on the list of messages in your inbox. After you open a message and read it, you can reply to it by pressing CTRL+R. Just type your message, and press alt+S to send your reply. You will be in the list of messages, and just press the delete key to delete that message. To forward a message, just press ctrl+F. To spell check your message before sending, just press F7.

Tabs on the ribbon of the mail app:

Here we go with the ribbon. When you are in a message, three tabs show up on the ribbon. Just press the alt key to get to the ribbon. The first tab you will hear is the format tab. Right arrow to the insert tab, and right arrow again to the third and last tab, the options tab. Now, if you press alt a second time while you are still in the mail app, you will be on the tab that you were last working with. If you were working with the options tab lastly, the options tab will show up, and you will have to left arrow to get back to insert and format. You do wrap around in a circle with a couple of other choices in there as you wrap. On any of these tabs, just press the down arrow to get to all of the choices for that tab. Then, press tab to tab through all of the choices. For example, to insert an attachment into an email, press the alt key, and arrow to the insert tab. Then, press the down arrow, and you are right on the files choice. It will not say attach, this is very important. Pressing down arrow on the insert tab, allows you to insert different things into your email. Remember, you can just press:

Alt+I to attach a file.

To attach anything else, you must go to the insert tab on the ribbon. The ribbon is not important, unless you want to insert different things into the email, or if you want to format the email.

Other choices to insert, are table, link, and so on. These are different things that you can insert in your email. Press enter on files, and you can brows your computer to find a file to insert or attach, and press enter on the open button. Now, you are put back on your message you are composing. If you press Shift+tab one time, you will be on your file that you attached to your email. That is how people will find your attachments. They will just shift tab to hear all of the files you inserted or attached to your email. Now, Use Shift+Tab again to move focus to the subject line, and press Shift+Tab again to hear the sender’s name. In other words, when you are in a message, press Shift+tab to hear all of the information like the subject, the sender, the time and date, and so on. There are not key commands to read this information to you like in other clients. When you finish reading the message, press the Escape key to return to the message list. That is the key. If you just press escape, you go back to your list of messages. If you press delete on a message in the list, it goes to the trash folder right away. Now, if you select some text in your email, just press alt, and arrow to the format tab, and press down arrow to the format choices if you want to format your email. just tab through the choices. There are many, you can do about anything here to format your email text. For example, if you down arrow on the format tab, there will be choices to bold, underline, and to do other things to the text that you select in your email that you are composing. Now, for the options tab, the third and last tab, you will not need to use, but feel free to check out the options. The option for Spell Checking, is the same as pressing F7 in your message. Now, here is the thing about spell checking in the mail app. You can go to the win10 settings app, by pressing windows+I to have win10 correct much of your spelling as you type. This only works though, in a win10 app. The mail app qualifies for that. So, in settings, arrow to the devices group and press enter. Then, go to the type choice and press enter. Check two check boxes. The first says something like correct spelling, and the second one says something like high light words that are misspelled. Check those two check boxes and press enter. Now, when you are in the mail app, most of the words will be automatically corrected as you type them. However, this feature will not correct all misspelled words. This is where you press F7 to do a total spell check. Important: There is not a way to have the mail app spell check every message automatically when you send it like with WLM. You definitely have to spell check every message that you compose before you send it just like with each document in Word.

Well, we have covered everything with the mail app itself.

Now, I will show you quickly how to use the people app and calendar app, and then you can use all three apps together as one email client.

People app:

Launch the People app, and tab a few times. You will tab by a new button, where you can manually enter the information for a new contact. If you tab passed the new button, you will come to a list of contacts. You cannot use first letter navigation to jump to a certain contact, but here is what you can do. Tab one more time, and you will be in a list of letters of the alphabet. Again, you cannot use first letter navigation, like you can now use in the all apps. Just arrow down to the letter you want, and shift+tab back to the list of contact starting with that letter. Find the name you want, and tab a few more times. There will be an edit where you can edit the contact's information. Tab passed that, and you will come to profile. Tab one more time, and you will be on their email. To copy that email, you have to press the applications key, or shift+F10, and press enter on copy. You will then have that person's email copied to the clip board. You can go to the mail app, and paste that into the to: edit box to send them an email. That is it with the people app. Remember, your contacts are imported into the people app. As you type an email into the mail app, the populated choices come from the people app.

Calendar app:

Launch the calendar app, and press alt+ctrl+4 to get into month view. You are put on a grid of days of the week. You will land on to day. It will say the date as well. For example, you will hear Friday, October 28. You also hear how many events are linked with that day, like birthday's of your contacts and so on. Tab to each event, and press enter on the event to get the details of the event. If you shift+tab, you will go back to the day of those events. If you press right and left arrow, you will go forward a day or back a day. Up arrow takes you a week before from that day, and downarrow takes you a week ahead of that day. If you want to schedule an event for a certain day, just press enter on that day, and a dialog will come up for you to enter all of the information for the appointment or event, and there is an okay or done button. There you go! That is how you read days, the events for those days, and how to schedule an event for that day. That is about it for the calendar app.

 

Here are many keyboard shortcuts to use all three apps:

Account Manual Sync (Send and retrieve new mail)

CTRL+M

Or

F9

Mark as read

CTRL+Q

Mark as unread

CTRL+U

Toggle the important property on a conversation

CTRL+SHIFT+G

Delete a conversation

CTRL+D

Or

DEL

Archive a conversation

BACKSPACE

Reply to current mail

CTRL+R

Reply all

CTRL+SHIFT+R

Forward current mail

CTRL+F

Search

CTRL+E

Or

F3

Create a new mail

CTRL+N

Or

CTRL+SHIFT+M

Add Attachment

ALT+I

Send mail

ALT+S

Or

Ctrl + Enter

Switch to Inbox

CTRL+SHIFT+I

Switch to Outbox

CTRL+SHIFT+O

Zoom in

CTRL++ (Plus key on numpad)

Zoom out

CTRL+- (Minus key on numpad)

Move between regions

F6

Toggle Caret Browsing

F7

Key commands for the Calendar app:

Accept Meeting Invitation

Alt+C

Decline Meeting Invitation

Alt+D

Tentative Meeting Invitation

Alt+N

Move to View

CTRL+SHIFT+V

Switch to the calendar in the mail app

CTRL+2

 

Well, I hope you get so much good out of this tutorial , and you can get a lot out of using the mail app, people, and calendar apps. You can do a lot with three apps. I would pin all three of them to the taskbar, and have them all opened at the same time

Take care,

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shirley Tracy
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 11:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

 

                David, I would appreciate the tutorial. Today, I had trouble with the reading pane not being spoken in JAWS. I called Microsoft and the rep ran a repair for JAWS (not sure if that was needed or not, but now it works). Since it worked yesterday, I can’t understand what went wrong.

 

Thanks again.

Shirley

 

Stracy5@...

 

  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 3:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

 

Hi!

I am so glad you are using the Mail app in Windows 10. I have a tutorial if you want it. It is a text tutorial.

Often, I have to shift+Tab back to my inbox of messages.

Also, if you want to create filters, you can get on the email web site, like Gmail, for example, and easily create the Labels, there, they are called, and they will be synced with the mail app.

Narrator does a great job at reading the search results when you start typing in an email address. You can turn Narrator on right over JAWS, and turn it back off after you find the right email address.

Those are a few tricks that I use.

Take care, and ask any questions.

I fly through a thousand emails a day, and respond, forward, and add attachments.

The mail app is very usable.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shirley Tracy
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

 

                Hi Steve and all,

 

I am actually using Microsoft Mail for Windows 10 now. Yesterday, I couldn’t use it, but today, I’ve got it down. (At least I think I have).

 

Persistence pays—plus I found something on the web from Microsoft that describes how to use it with screen readers like JAWS. While things aren’t totally as described, I’ve been able to figure out how to make it work—but I’m sure I’m far from using it fully.

 

Thank you all again for your input. This list has really helped.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 8:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

 

Instead of using a browser for email, why not try a regular Windows mail

program, like Thunderbird, or Windows Live Mail. I would not, however,

recommend the native Windows 10 email client.

 

 

Your JAWS will tell you when there is an update, and invite you to

download and install it by activating the appropriate button in the

dialog. Ditto FSCast podcast episodes.

 

 

On 4/17/2018 8:32 PM, Shirley Tracy wrote:

> Hi everyone,

> I posted earlier I had bought an all-in-one computer, but got chicken and returned it. The one I have set up now is much more powerful--refurbished but works really well.

> Here are my questions:

> 1. Do you all have trouble using EDGE? I generally use Internet Explorer or I used to sometimes use Firefox. When trying to read email today, I discovered that Edge will show me the messages but won't open the links. Is there a JAWS key that will open them? I'm using Roadrunner email through Mail.brighthouse.com. I'm using Internet Explorer right now, but I'd use Edge if it's possible.

> 2. I installed JAWS 1820 from the disk. I then downloaded the March update from the website. Do I need to download each of the other updates? Or will they be in the March update?

> Windows 10 doesn't seem too difficult. It's just the learning curve that makes it seem daunting.

> Thank you all for your patience. At least I'm trying to learn. (smile).

>   Shirley

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

Shirley Tracy
 

                David, I would appreciate the tutorial. Today, I had trouble with the reading pane not being spoken in JAWS. I called Microsoft and the rep ran a repair for JAWS (not sure if that was needed or not, but now it works). Since it worked yesterday, I can’t understand what went wrong.

 

Thanks again.

Shirley

 

Stracy5@...

 

  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 3:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

 

Hi!

I am so glad you are using the Mail app in Windows 10. I have a tutorial if you want it. It is a text tutorial.

Often, I have to shift+Tab back to my inbox of messages.

Also, if you want to create filters, you can get on the email web site, like Gmail, for example, and easily create the Labels, there, they are called, and they will be synced with the mail app.

Narrator does a great job at reading the search results when you start typing in an email address. You can turn Narrator on right over JAWS, and turn it back off after you find the right email address.

Those are a few tricks that I use.

Take care, and ask any questions.

I fly through a thousand emails a day, and respond, forward, and add attachments.

The mail app is very usable.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shirley Tracy
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

 

                Hi Steve and all,

 

I am actually using Microsoft Mail for Windows 10 now. Yesterday, I couldn’t use it, but today, I’ve got it down. (At least I think I have).

 

Persistence pays—plus I found something on the web from Microsoft that describes how to use it with screen readers like JAWS. While things aren’t totally as described, I’ve been able to figure out how to make it work—but I’m sure I’m far from using it fully.

 

Thank you all again for your input. This list has really helped.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 8:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

 

Instead of using a browser for email, why not try a regular Windows mail

program, like Thunderbird, or Windows Live Mail. I would not, however,

recommend the native Windows 10 email client.

 

 

Your JAWS will tell you when there is an update, and invite you to

download and install it by activating the appropriate button in the

dialog. Ditto FSCast podcast episodes.

 

 

On 4/17/2018 8:32 PM, Shirley Tracy wrote:

> Hi everyone,

> I posted earlier I had bought an all-in-one computer, but got chicken and returned it. The one I have set up now is much more powerful--refurbished but works really well.

> Here are my questions:

> 1. Do you all have trouble using EDGE? I generally use Internet Explorer or I used to sometimes use Firefox. When trying to read email today, I discovered that Edge will show me the messages but won't open the links. Is there a JAWS key that will open them? I'm using Roadrunner email through Mail.brighthouse.com. I'm using Internet Explorer right now, but I'd use Edge if it's possible.

> 2. I installed JAWS 1820 from the disk. I then downloaded the March update from the website. Do I need to download each of the other updates? Or will they be in the March update?

> Windows 10 doesn't seem too difficult. It's just the learning curve that makes it seem daunting.

> Thank you all for your patience. At least I'm trying to learn. (smile).

>   Shirley

>

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Reading columns in word with 2016 with jaws

Ivan Gonzalez <guitarchants@...>
 

Hi guys! Question: how do I read a document with columns? It's not a table, but the list is devided into left column and right. What's the command to read them in order?


moderated Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

David Moore
 

Hi!

I am so glad you are using the Mail app in Windows 10. I have a tutorial if you want it. It is a text tutorial.

Often, I have to shift+Tab back to my inbox of messages.

Also, if you want to create filters, you can get on the email web site, like Gmail, for example, and easily create the Labels, there, they are called, and they will be synced with the mail app.

Narrator does a great job at reading the search results when you start typing in an email address. You can turn Narrator on right over JAWS, and turn it back off after you find the right email address.

Those are a few tricks that I use.

Take care, and ask any questions.

I fly through a thousand emails a day, and respond, forward, and add attachments.

The mail app is very usable.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shirley Tracy
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

 

                Hi Steve and all,

 

I am actually using Microsoft Mail for Windows 10 now. Yesterday, I couldn’t use it, but today, I’ve got it down. (At least I think I have).

 

Persistence pays—plus I found something on the web from Microsoft that describes how to use it with screen readers like JAWS. While things aren’t totally as described, I’ve been able to figure out how to make it work—but I’m sure I’m far from using it fully.

 

Thank you all again for your input. This list has really helped.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 8:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

 

Instead of using a browser for email, why not try a regular Windows mail

program, like Thunderbird, or Windows Live Mail. I would not, however,

recommend the native Windows 10 email client.

 

 

Your JAWS will tell you when there is an update, and invite you to

download and install it by activating the appropriate button in the

dialog. Ditto FSCast podcast episodes.

 

 

On 4/17/2018 8:32 PM, Shirley Tracy wrote:

> Hi everyone,

> I posted earlier I had bought an all-in-one computer, but got chicken and returned it. The one I have set up now is much more powerful--refurbished but works really well.

> Here are my questions:

> 1. Do you all have trouble using EDGE? I generally use Internet Explorer or I used to sometimes use Firefox. When trying to read email today, I discovered that Edge will show me the messages but won't open the links. Is there a JAWS key that will open them? I'm using Roadrunner email through Mail.brighthouse.com. I'm using Internet Explorer right now, but I'd use Edge if it's possible.

> 2. I installed JAWS 1820 from the disk. I then downloaded the March update from the website. Do I need to download each of the other updates? Or will they be in the March update?

> Windows 10 doesn't seem too difficult. It's just the learning curve that makes it seem daunting.

> Thank you all for your patience. At least I'm trying to learn. (smile).

>   Shirley

>

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: JAWS friendly way to translate English into Spanish.

Cristóbal
 

My work is mainly focused in interpreting, but for the occasional translating stuff, I’ll go lazy and use this site: http://www.spanish-translator-services.com/espanol/traductor-gratis.htm

It’s actually pretty solid. The Microsoft built in translator is also surprisingly good. ProZ.com works too, but that site is a little more funky to get around in with a screen reader last I tried.

Keeping in mind other factors like localization and register. I.E. The Spanish spoken in Mexico or Argentina, Cuba, Spain, etc will vary in idioms/slang and the level of education and so on.

The services I mentioned above are good for a foundation to work off of, but for more formal translation work, it’s not just a copy and paste job. You have to know what you’re talking about. But for casual communication or in a pinch, they’d more or less get the job done.

This is off the PC of course. The Google translate iOS app would be my choice for mobile, but they for whatever reason only offer Castilian Spanish which for the Latin American Spanish ear can be . . . tedious to listen to. That probably wouldn’t matter in this case though.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CathyAnne Murtha
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS friendly way to translate English into Spanish.

 

If you have an iPhone (and probably Android), the Google Translate app is pretty amazing.

 

You can either type or speak and have the app instantly translate into dozens of language options.

 

I was playing with it at a Chinese restaurant the other day. Both the staff and I were amazed at how well it worked.

 

CathyAnne

 

---

 

CathyAnne Murtha

CEO

Access Technology Institute, LLC

Phone: (520) 300-7859



On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:09 PM -0700, "Tim Ford" <ttford@...> wrote:

Hello All,

 

I am using JAWS 17 with Windows 10.  I have a friend whose English is no better than my Spanish.  Is there a web site, Word feature, stand-alone software, or some other way for she and I to type and hit a button to translate?  It could be just reading the screen, or better yet, a button to press to have the computer speak the translation.  Any ideas are much appreciated!

 

Sincerely,

Tim Ford

 


moderated Re: JAWS friendly way to translate English into Spanish.

Dave...
 


Wow. This is very cool. I can practice my Swedish.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 21:19
Subject: Re: JAWS friendly way to translate English into Spanish.

If you have an iPhone (and probably Android), the Google Translate app is pretty amazing.

You can either type or speak and have the app instantly translate into dozens of language options.

I was playing with it at a Chinese restaurant the other day. Both the staff and I were amazed at how well it worked.

CathyAnne

---

CathyAnne Murtha
CEO
Access Technology Institute, LLC
www.blind.training
cathy@...
Phone: (520) 300-7859



On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:09 PM -0700, "Tim Ford" <ttford@...> wrote:

Hello All,

I am using JAWS 17 with Windows 10.  I have a friend whose English is no better than my Spanish.  Is there a web site, Word feature, stand-alone software, or some other way for she and I to type and hit a button to translate?  It could be just reading the screen, or better yet, a button to press to have the computer speak the translation.  Any ideas are much appreciated!

Sincerely,

Tim Ford


moderated Re: JAWS friendly way to translate English into Spanish.

CathyAnne Murtha <cathy@...>
 

If you have an iPhone (and probably Android), the Google Translate app is pretty amazing.

You can either type or speak and have the app instantly translate into dozens of language options.

I was playing with it at a Chinese restaurant the other day. Both the staff and I were amazed at how well it worked.

CathyAnne

---

CathyAnne Murtha
CEO
Access Technology Institute, LLC
www.blind.training
cathy@...
Phone: (520) 300-7859



On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:09 PM -0700, "Tim Ford" <ttford@...> wrote:

Hello All,

 

I am using JAWS 17 with Windows 10.  I have a friend whose English is no better than my Spanish.  Is there a web site, Word feature, stand-alone software, or some other way for she and I to type and hit a button to translate?  It could be just reading the screen, or better yet, a button to press to have the computer speak the translation.  Any ideas are much appreciated!

 

Sincerely,

Tim Ford

 


moderated Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

Shirley Tracy
 

                Hi Steve and all,

 

I am actually using Microsoft Mail for Windows 10 now. Yesterday, I couldn’t use it, but today, I’ve got it down. (At least I think I have).

 

Persistence pays—plus I found something on the web from Microsoft that describes how to use it with screen readers like JAWS. While things aren’t totally as described, I’ve been able to figure out how to make it work—but I’m sure I’m far from using it fully.

 

Thank you all again for your input. This list has really helped.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 8:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finally got windows 10 and have questions

 

Instead of using a browser for email, why not try a regular Windows mail

program, like Thunderbird, or Windows Live Mail. I would not, however,

recommend the native Windows 10 email client.

 

 

Your JAWS will tell you when there is an update, and invite you to

download and install it by activating the appropriate button in the

dialog. Ditto FSCast podcast episodes.

 

 

On 4/17/2018 8:32 PM, Shirley Tracy wrote:

> Hi everyone,

> I posted earlier I had bought an all-in-one computer, but got chicken and returned it. The one I have set up now is much more powerful--refurbished but works really well.

> Here are my questions:

> 1. Do you all have trouble using EDGE? I generally use Internet Explorer or I used to sometimes use Firefox. When trying to read email today, I discovered that Edge will show me the messages but won't open the links. Is there a JAWS key that will open them? I'm using Roadrunner email through Mail.brighthouse.com. I'm using Internet Explorer right now, but I'd use Edge if it's possible.

> 2. I installed JAWS 1820 from the disk. I then downloaded the March update from the website. Do I need to download each of the other updates? Or will they be in the March update?

> Windows 10 doesn't seem too difficult. It's just the learning curve that makes it seem daunting.

> Thank you all for your patience. At least I'm trying to learn. (smile).

>   Shirley

>

 

 

 

 


moderated JAWS friendly way to translate English into Spanish.

Tim Ford
 

Hello All,

 

I am using JAWS 17 with Windows 10.  I have a friend whose English is no better than my Spanish.  Is there a web site, Word feature, stand-alone software, or some other way for she and I to type and hit a button to translate?  It could be just reading the screen, or better yet, a button to press to have the computer speak the translation.  Any ideas are much appreciated!

 

Sincerely,

Tim Ford

 


moderated Re: Trouble updating jaws

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

So far, I haven’t had any issues with the auto update.

 

Melissa

 

From: marvin kotler
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 1:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Trouble updating jaws

 

Good morning list; marv here.  I cannot update jaws with autoupdate; always have to uninstall him and reinstall the update.  Just wonder if anyone else has this problem.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


moderated Re: Fixing JAWS OCR accuracy?

Mario
 

Shannon, MiFi is actually a brand name used for a portable broadband
device that allows multiple end users and mobile devices to share a 3G
or 4G mobile broadband internet connection and create an ad hoc network,
i.e. a mobile hotspot.

to understand it a bit better, visit:
https://www.truconnect.com/blog/difference-between-mifi-and-wifi/

-------- Original Message --------
From: Shannon [mailto:shannon@bartchroofing.com]
Sent: Thursday, Apr 19, 2018 12:53 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Fixing JAWS OCR accuracy?

Joshua , Dave,



Thanks for answering so quickly, even though it was not what I wanted to
hear. Smile



I have the KNFB reader app on my phone along with the seeing aAI and Prizmo
but.

I never seme to get usable documents from any of them.

I probably need a stand but no one seems to know where I can get one?

I also am not sure how the documents from any of those programs get saved
using a phone. If I use any of them and then OCR so I can read the document,
when the document is saved or shared, is it only the OCR results ,(which may
or may not be accurate,) or is the original image also saved? I not only
need to read these documents but I have to save and store them so others can
see them.

With all this cool stuff that is out there.. I sure wish I could be sure
that it would be right. I question myself as it is.

Joshua, what is a MiFi device? I don't think I have one of those?



Thanks for the assist. I was hopeing that there was a display setting I
needed to use or a way to adjust for fonts or something in windows that
would make OCR with JAWS work better.

Shannon



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joshua
Hori
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Fixing JAWS OCR accuracy?



The OCR is only as accurate as the document provided. Garbage in, garbage
out. Fonts can also play a role in messing up OCR and arial type fonts are
preferred, although italic fonts can play havoc on OCR.

There may be a few alternatives to rely on in this case. Seeing AI is a app
for iPhone which has a document reader on it. Great for OCR'ing paper which
hasn't been folded. There is also the OrCam which is a camera worn on the
side of glasses which can read content in front of you within seconds, but
then dumps the information from the device to maintain privacy. Or there is
the Aira service which comes with a pair of Google glasses, and a AT&T MiFi
device, which has KNFB reader built in for OCR'ing content, or connects to a
live person for assistance. At $90 for 100 minutes, Aira is a cheap personal
assistant.



~Joshua



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:46 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Fixing JAWS OCR accuracy?



Hello all,

I was just using the OCR on a pdf. I noticed that there was a problem.

This happened to be an invoice that I need to pay.

I got down to the Sub total line and all was fine until the taxes were
added and the line that said Balance Due.

The final balance Due was not correct.

The OCR cut off the line.

If I had believed this and not questioned it and found a pair of eyes to
confirm I would have miss paid the bill.

Subtotal was 202.65 and the balance Due said 202



I would have short paid .65 to the vendor.

How can I make the OCR be accurate?

I also notice this on the time tracking software we use. There is a screen
that JAWS will not read with the virtual curser, mouse curser, and not even
the touch curser. There is no PC curser in the window.

I have to OCR the window to get any info from it.

Often and very often it will lie to me and cut off parts of the time
entries. It may say something like

Time in 7:00am

Out time 10:30AM

4/18/2018 56 38am (it Left off the leading 6)

4/18/18/2018 0:28:12AM(it left off the leading 1)

This is the "Raw" time of the actual punch into the clock. The system rounds
to the nearest 15 minute.

When JAWS doesn't tell me the truth I am forced to get someone over here to
look over my shoulder and tell me what is really on the screen.

Why can't it be accurate?

Is there any settings that I can do/change to correct this?





I just don't feel good that my screen reader is not telling me the truth and
I can't rely on it.



Thanks for any pointers.

Shannon


moderated Jaws April Update, J2018.1804.26 Download Links + What's New

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,
 
Below is the latest Jaws April update, J2018.1804.26, download links plus what's new with this release.
 
32 Bit:
 
 
64 Bit:
 
 
Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1804.26 (April 2018)
 
The following is a list of improvements made in JAWS 2018 between the March 2018 update and the April 2018 update.
 
JAWS
list of 7 items
• Resolved an issue with dongle authorization not working in the Windows 10 Spring 2018 Creators update. Customers who authorize using a dongle must install
this JAWS update to continue authorizing JAWS or Fusion after Windows is updated. See the
Freedom Scientific Blog
 for more information about Freedom Scientific software and the Microsoft Windows 10 Spring Creators Update.
• For the past several releases, users have been able to press CTRL+WINDOWS Key+K in Microsoft Word, HTML pages, or PDF documents to set a temporary PlaceMarker,
move the cursor to a different location in the document or web page, and then press INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by M to instantly select the text between
the mark and the cursor. This update further enhances this functionality by now enabling you to select between a temporary PlaceMarker and the cursor location
in standard text editing applications including Notepad or WordPad, or in Internet Explorer or Chrome when focused in edit fields on web pages or in web-based
editing applications with Forms Mode active. For example, if you are reading a document in Google Docs and you want to select a couple sentences, press
CTRL+WINDOWS Key+K at the location in the document where you want to begin the selection, move the cursor to where you want to end the selection, and then
press INSERT+SPACEBAR, M to select the text. You can then apply any formatting as well as copy or cut the text for pasting in another location in the document
or in a different application. To have JAWS read the currently selected text, press INSERT+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW. Note that due to current limitations with
Chrome, text selection in Google Docs only works reliably when performed in the same paragraph.
• A new option, "Use Accessibility Driver for Screen Capture", is now available in the Miscellaneous group of Settings Center and is selected by default.
The accessibility driver is a system level driver installed by our software that has been used for many years to provide screen information to JAWS. This
information is known as the Off-Screen Model (OSM) and is used primarily by review cursors like the JAWS Cursor and Invisible Cursor as well as by JAWS
scripts. As Windows 10 increasingly uses different methods of displaying information, this legacy accessibility driver no longer works in many cases. Clearing
this check box configures JAWS to use new API Accessibility Monitor technology we developed to help overcome the missing information previously obtained
from the Accessibility Driver.
• Resolved a reported issue with the Business Search Research It lookup source not returning any results as expected.
• JAWS no longer announces the current character when DELETE or BACKSPACE is pressed in a read-only edit field or the Virtual Cursor. Since nothing is
being deleted, it is not necessary to speak the character.
• Resolved a reported issue where JAWS was not reading properly in certain edit fields in Visual Studio 2017.
• In the Spanish version of JAWS, resolved an issue where layered command help (INSERT+SPACEBAR, QUESTION MARK) was not being displayed.
list end
 
Microsoft Office
list of 5 items
• Resolved an issue in the Spellchecker for Word and Outlook where JAWS was reading the misspelled word as a suggestion even after announcing there were
no suggestions.
• When starting the Spellchecker in the latest Word 365 updates, which places focus into the sentence containing the misspelled word, resolved an issue
where JAWS was not reading the whole sentence if it wrapped to a new line.
• Addressed multiple reports where JAWS would unexpectedly stop reading in Excel in some situations.
• Addressed an issue in Excel where pressing a braille display Cursor Router was not moving the cursor as expected when editing a cell.
• When pressing CTRL+TAB from the Outlook Calendar to move focus to the Navigation Bar, resolved an issue where JAWS was not reading the buttons as you
navigated.
list end
 
Web Browsers
list of 5 items
• JAWS 2018 now includes improvements necessary for users who move to Mozilla FireFox version 60, expected to release within the month. It is advised that
JAWS users remain on the ESR version of FireFox until Mozilla officially releases version 60.
• When typing in the Edge address bar, resolved an issue where JAWS would stop responding and eventually close.
• When navigating a table in Edge using the JAWS table reading commands, addressed an issue where JAWS would not identify buttons. In addition, resolved
an issue where the contents of a cell were not being read if the cell only contained a check box.
• Addressed a reported issue where the JAWS ARIA Text Filter, which enables you to specify how live regions containing certain content are announced, was
not working as expected. To use this feature, press CTRL+WINDOWS Key+DASH to open the ARIA Live Region text filter dialog box, enter some text that may
appear in a live region on a web page, and then choose whether JAWS announces or ignores any updates that contain the filtered text.
• Resolved an issue with the SLASH Navigation Quick Key not moving to clickable elements on certain web pages as expected.
list end
 
Windows 10
list of 5 items
• Improved JAWS responsiveness when using ALT+TAB to move between apps.
• When focused on the Desktop and a Windows Explorer window is minimized, resolved an issue where INSERT+T was reading the title of the Explorer window
instead of the Desktop.
• JAWS now announces the current calculator mode when the app starts, or when moving focus to it using ALT+TAB.
• Improved JAWS support for the Windows Update screen accessed through the Settings app (WINDOWS Key+I). Status messages should now be spoken and shown
in braille when checking for and downloading updates.
• Improved JAWS responsiveness when navigating in the Windows Task Manager.
list end
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


moderated Re: Trouble updating jaws

Michal Nowicki
 

I don’t have any problems with the AutoUpdate.

 

Michal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 12:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble updating jaws

 

Yes, and that’s why Freedom Scientific recommends downloading and installing the latest JAWS updates through the website instead of using the autoUpdate feature.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of marvin kotler
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Trouble updating jaws

 

Good morning list; marv here.  I cannot update jaws with autoupdate; always have to uninstall him and reinstall the update.  Just wonder if anyone else has this problem.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: Issue with JAWS and MS Word 2010

Van Lant, Robin
 

It does have print view, depending on your default zoom level, I find it will often slip back into displaying pages side by side.  Even if I got to the View ribbon and click the button to view only one page, it will happen again at times.  So, really there are three ways to deal with the problem at hand:

                1 – change the zoom level to something larger so it forces only one page to be displayed,

                2 – Select the button on the View ribbon to only display one page, not the neighboring two pages button

                3 – Select a different document display option on the View ribbon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Issue with JAWS and MS Word 2010

 

Hi Bill,

 

Doesn't Word 2016 have Print View like it's predecessors?  If so, wouldn't this be the chosen view for best reading?  Just trying to learn a little more about Word 2016 for possible future use.  Thanks much.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:07 AM

Subject: Re: Issue with JAWS and MS Word 2010

 

Because Word 2016 doesn’t have draft view anymore, but they still call web layout view draft view in the advanced settings. It’s kind of confusing to me, too. You’ll know if you did it right, though, because your pages will come in order instead of only odd numbers.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 8:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Issue with JAWS and MS Word 2010

 

Bill,

Ok I did it and I am pretty sure I got the right check box for the draft view. Geeeeee there a bunch of choices!

Now just a little confused. I just told it to allow viewing in draft mode with the check box. Why do I want to use the F6 and then choose Web layout and not draft? The particular document I had open only had two pages so I am not sure if I did this correctly just yet but I’ll look for a longer one.

Just wondering why draft in one place and web view in the other?

Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 7:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Issue with JAWS and MS Word 2010

 

Hi, Shannon. ALT plus W, 1, makes the entire document one column. This will accomplish what you want, but if you change the default setting to either draft view or Web layout, all new documents you create will remain as a one-page-per-screen document. Plus, if you make one change, such as inserting a blank line, then take it out, change the document to Web Layout, and resave the document, it will open in Web Layout view after that. This is a more permanent solution than ALT plus W, 1. Try it and let me know how it works out. Just remember to press F6 until it says Status Pane. That’s where the print and web layout check boxes are located.

 

Bill White

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 5:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Issue with JAWS and MS Word 2010

 

Hi Bill,

I have this problem too but I use the Alt W and then press 1 to get it to display a single page at a time.

I don’t know what I am actually doing when I do this but it works. I just wish I could get all multi page documents to display in this mannor all the time.

I wish it would be the default. I am using Office 2010 here at work.

Is this what you are doing with your steps?

Will your steps set that behavior as the default for all multi page documents?

Thanks

Shannon

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 10:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Issue with JAWS and MS Word 2010

 

Hi again, Gezim. I left out a step before number 6. After Step 5, press F6, then TAB to the Web View button and press ENTER.

 

Bill White

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 6:19 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Issue with JAWS and MS Word 2010

 

Hi list,

 

When down or up arrowing in a Word document, the cursor skips the next page and moves to the other page, for example from page 1 to page 3. The only way how I can access the next page is to right or left arrow if I know that I am approaching the bottom of the page.

 

I am facing this issue in my workplace, where I am using the latest JAWS with MS Word 2010, whereas I am not facing this issue on my personal computer, using the latest JAWS with MS Word 2016.

 

I am looking forward to your advice.

 

Cheers,

Gezim

 



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moderated change in voice and speed at login screen

Van Lant, Robin
 

Please point me in the right direction.  I recently got JAWS installed on my Windows 7 laptop for work. I’ve been playing with the voice I want to use and the speed I like.  When I hit Control Alt Delete to lock my computer as I walk away, the JAWS voice changes to a different female voice and a slower speed.  I’ve also noticed this on my Windows 10 laptop at home.  Is this a  default setting I can change somewhere?  If it matters, I am the primary user at home and here at work I have to get my IT guy to give me admin rights to make installations.  I’m also pretty sure that I do not have JAWS set to load at login yet; Window Eyes is still my primary screen reader on my work laptop and I’m not sure that either program loads by default on my home laptop while I’m in this transition phase.

 

 

 



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