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moderated Re: Jaws and the MLB TV/Gameday Audio controls

Kelly <kelly@...>
 

Until these problems are corrected, you might be able to adjust the volume outside the app with the Windows volume control.  For example on Win10 I enter sndvol into the run dialog and then locate the volume setting for the web browser I’m using.  I lower the volume specific to that program.

 

Kelly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 5:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and the MLB TV/Gameday Audio controls

 

Ah, by pressing the b for button, I am able to find the unlabeled volume and pause buttons, though the volume buttons don't seem to work that well.

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
 
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis
 

On 4/15/2018 6:08 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:

Please explain where the volume buttons are, as the damn page keeps refreshing every 15 seconds as soon as I enter on a game.

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
 
"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis
 

On 4/15/2018 5:42 PM, dennis wrote:

yes they do work for live games too but i have had it freeze up on me trying to move around in the live stream. they work great on the archived games.

 

On 4/15/2018 4:35 PM, Kelly wrote:

Hi,

 

For me the buttons do work during a live game to be able to rewind, pause and such.

 

I’ve also reported the problems to MLB Accessibility via phone to 866-239-1284 and  email to 'access@...'.

 

They have  a help article that is out of date and needing updating at https://www.mlb.com/live-stream-games/help-center/gameday-how-can-i-reach-the-accessible-mlb-gameday-audio-player-page.

 

MLB’s accessibility page is at:

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/help/accessibility.jsp

 

Kelly

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 4:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and the MLB TV/Gameday Audio controls

 

if you are listening to a live game the buttons don't do anything. if you are listening to an archived game the 0 button is pause and play, the 1 button is rewind and the 2 button is forward. in settings i have the two choices that are there turned off so there isn't a bunch of stats on the screen. hope this helps.

 

On 4/14/2018 9:15 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:

Does anyone have any tips on setting the Major League Baseball TV Gameday Audio site to work better with speech?

The controls are Unlabled0 button, Unlabeled1 button, Unlabeled0 button, etc.

And it updates about every 15 seconds.

When I set place markers, they don’t work the next time I’m on the site.

Whenever I’m on the MLB.com site itself, not the Gameday audio site, each keystroke takes around 15 seconds to execute, such as up arrow, down arrow, Tab, etc.

The Gameday audio page worked fine until they combined it with the MLB TV page

I’m using the latest JAWS and IE11 with Windows 10.

Thanks,

Dennis

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: JAWS and volume control

Jim Rawls
 

See if your speakers are in the system tray. If they are, hit enter on them, and see if you can open up the master volume. If you can you can lower your volume. You can also do it in control panel in sound link. Jim

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and volume control

 

Hello all: I was working with another person in a remote session on my Win10 laptop, and JAWS was very loud.   I was frantically trying to find a hotkey for regulating that, but there seems to be nothing anymore. I checked in the JAWS commands as well. Anyone have a clue?

 

Gudrun

 

 


moderated Re: Jaws and the MLB TV/Gameday Audio controls

Maria Campbell
 

Ah, by pressing the b for button, I am able to find the unlabeled volume and pause buttons, though the volume buttons don't seem to work that well.

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 4/15/2018 6:08 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:

Please explain where the volume buttons are, as the damn page keeps refreshing every 15 seconds as soon as I enter on a game.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 4/15/2018 5:42 PM, dennis wrote:

yes they do work for live games too but i have had it freeze up on me trying to move around in the live stream. they work great on the archived games.


On 4/15/2018 4:35 PM, Kelly wrote:

Hi,

 

For me the buttons do work during a live game to be able to rewind, pause and such.

 

I’ve also reported the problems to MLB Accessibility via phone to 866-239-1284 and  email to 'access@...'.

 

They have  a help article that is out of date and needing updating at https://www.mlb.com/live-stream-games/help-center/gameday-how-can-i-reach-the-accessible-mlb-gameday-audio-player-page.

 

MLB’s accessibility page is at:

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/help/accessibility.jsp

 

Kelly

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 4:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and the MLB TV/Gameday Audio controls

 

if you are listening to a live game the buttons don't do anything. if you are listening to an archived game the 0 button is pause and play, the 1 button is rewind and the 2 button is forward. in settings i have the two choices that are there turned off so there isn't a bunch of stats on the screen. hope this helps.

 

On 4/14/2018 9:15 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:

Does anyone have any tips on setting the Major League Baseball TV Gameday Audio site to work better with speech?

The controls are Unlabled0 button, Unlabeled1 button, Unlabeled0 button, etc.

And it updates about every 15 seconds.

When I set place markers, they don’t work the next time I’m on the site.

Whenever I’m on the MLB.com site itself, not the Gameday audio site, each keystroke takes around 15 seconds to execute, such as up arrow, down arrow, Tab, etc.

The Gameday audio page worked fine until they combined it with the MLB TV page

I’m using the latest JAWS and IE11 with Windows 10.

Thanks,

Dennis

 

 

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moderated Re: Jaws and the MLB TV/Gameday Audio controls

Maria Campbell
 

Please explain where the volume buttons are, as the damn page keeps refreshing every 15 seconds as soon as I enter on a game.


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 4/15/2018 5:42 PM, dennis wrote:

yes they do work for live games too but i have had it freeze up on me trying to move around in the live stream. they work great on the archived games.


On 4/15/2018 4:35 PM, Kelly wrote:

Hi,

 

For me the buttons do work during a live game to be able to rewind, pause and such.

 

I’ve also reported the problems to MLB Accessibility via phone to 866-239-1284 and  email to 'access@...'.

 

They have  a help article that is out of date and needing updating at https://www.mlb.com/live-stream-games/help-center/gameday-how-can-i-reach-the-accessible-mlb-gameday-audio-player-page.

 

MLB’s accessibility page is at:

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/help/accessibility.jsp

 

Kelly

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 4:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and the MLB TV/Gameday Audio controls

 

if you are listening to a live game the buttons don't do anything. if you are listening to an archived game the 0 button is pause and play, the 1 button is rewind and the 2 button is forward. in settings i have the two choices that are there turned off so there isn't a bunch of stats on the screen. hope this helps.

 

On 4/14/2018 9:15 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:

Does anyone have any tips on setting the Major League Baseball TV Gameday Audio site to work better with speech?

The controls are Unlabled0 button, Unlabeled1 button, Unlabeled0 button, etc.

And it updates about every 15 seconds.

When I set place markers, they don’t work the next time I’m on the site.

Whenever I’m on the MLB.com site itself, not the Gameday audio site, each keystroke takes around 15 seconds to execute, such as up arrow, down arrow, Tab, etc.

The Gameday audio page worked fine until they combined it with the MLB TV page

I’m using the latest JAWS and IE11 with Windows 10.

Thanks,

Dennis

 

 

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moderated Re: Jaws and the MLB TV/Gameday Audio controls

dennis
 

yes they do work for live games too but i have had it freeze up on me trying to move around in the live stream. they work great on the archived games.


On 4/15/2018 4:35 PM, Kelly wrote:

Hi,

 

For me the buttons do work during a live game to be able to rewind, pause and such.

 

I’ve also reported the problems to MLB Accessibility via phone to 866-239-1284 and  email to 'access@...'.

 

They have  a help article that is out of date and needing updating at https://www.mlb.com/live-stream-games/help-center/gameday-how-can-i-reach-the-accessible-mlb-gameday-audio-player-page.

 

MLB’s accessibility page is at:

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/help/accessibility.jsp

 

Kelly

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 4:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and the MLB TV/Gameday Audio controls

 

if you are listening to a live game the buttons don't do anything. if you are listening to an archived game the 0 button is pause and play, the 1 button is rewind and the 2 button is forward. in settings i have the two choices that are there turned off so there isn't a bunch of stats on the screen. hope this helps.

 

On 4/14/2018 9:15 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:

Does anyone have any tips on setting the Major League Baseball TV Gameday Audio site to work better with speech?

The controls are Unlabled0 button, Unlabeled1 button, Unlabeled0 button, etc.

And it updates about every 15 seconds.

When I set place markers, they don’t work the next time I’m on the site.

Whenever I’m on the MLB.com site itself, not the Gameday audio site, each keystroke takes around 15 seconds to execute, such as up arrow, down arrow, Tab, etc.

The Gameday audio page worked fine until they combined it with the MLB TV page

I’m using the latest JAWS and IE11 with Windows 10.

Thanks,

Dennis

 

 

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moderated Re: Jaws and the MLB TV/Gameday Audio controls

Kelly <kelly@...>
 

Hi,

 

For me the buttons do work during a live game to be able to rewind, pause and such.

 

I’ve also reported the problems to MLB Accessibility via phone to 866-239-1284 and  email to 'access@...'.

 

They have  a help article that is out of date and needing updating at https://www.mlb.com/live-stream-games/help-center/gameday-how-can-i-reach-the-accessible-mlb-gameday-audio-player-page.

 

MLB’s accessibility page is at:

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/help/accessibility.jsp

 

Kelly

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 4:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and the MLB TV/Gameday Audio controls

 

if you are listening to a live game the buttons don't do anything. if you are listening to an archived game the 0 button is pause and play, the 1 button is rewind and the 2 button is forward. in settings i have the two choices that are there turned off so there isn't a bunch of stats on the screen. hope this helps.

 

On 4/14/2018 9:15 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:

Does anyone have any tips on setting the Major League Baseball TV Gameday Audio site to work better with speech?

The controls are Unlabled0 button, Unlabeled1 button, Unlabeled0 button, etc.

And it updates about every 15 seconds.

When I set place markers, they don’t work the next time I’m on the site.

Whenever I’m on the MLB.com site itself, not the Gameday audio site, each keystroke takes around 15 seconds to execute, such as up arrow, down arrow, Tab, etc.

The Gameday audio page worked fine until they combined it with the MLB TV page

I’m using the latest JAWS and IE11 with Windows 10.

Thanks,

Dennis

 

 

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moderated Re: Jaws and the MLB TV/Gameday Audio controls

dennis
 

if you are listening to a live game the buttons don't do anything. if you are listening to an archived game the 0 button is pause and play, the 1 button is rewind and the 2 button is forward. in settings i have the two choices that are there turned off so there isn't a bunch of stats on the screen. hope this helps.


On 4/14/2018 9:15 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:
Does anyone have any tips on setting the Major League Baseball TV Gameday Audio site to work better with speech?
The controls are Unlabled0 button, Unlabeled1 button, Unlabeled0 button, etc.
And it updates about every 15 seconds.
When I set place markers, they don’t work the next time I’m on the site.
Whenever I’m on the MLB.com site itself, not the Gameday audio site, each keystroke takes around 15 seconds to execute, such as up arrow, down arrow, Tab, etc.
The Gameday audio page worked fine until they combined it with the MLB TV page
I’m using the latest JAWS and IE11 with Windows 10.
Thanks,
Dennis


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moderated Re: JAWS and volume control

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

If you have Brian Hartgen’s Leasey Advanced scripts Control+Shift+Windows+Left arrow will decrease volume by 1% increments and the same with right arrow will increase.

I know this doesn’t answer the question as to whether there is a shortcut key in Windows or Jaws, but while I use a tiny percentage of Leasey’s functionality, it does definitely contain a lot of good stuff.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 1:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and volume control

 

Hi, Gudron. There’s no hotkey for that. You just need to either lower your system volume, or lower the separate JAWS volume under the system mixer.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and volume control

 

Hello all: I was working with another person in a remote session on my Win10 laptop, and JAWS was very loud.   I was frantically trying to find a hotkey for regulating that, but there seems to be nothing anymore. I checked in the JAWS commands as well. Anyone have a clue?

 

Gudrun

 

 


moderated Re: JAWS and volume control

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Gudron. There’s no hotkey for that. You just need to either lower your system volume, or lower the separate JAWS volume under the system mixer.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 12:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS and volume control

 

Hello all: I was working with another person in a remote session on my Win10 laptop, and JAWS was very loud.   I was frantically trying to find a hotkey for regulating that, but there seems to be nothing anymore. I checked in the JAWS commands as well. Anyone have a clue?

 

Gudrun

 

 


moderated JAWS and volume control

Gudrun Brunot
 

Hello all: I was working with another person in a remote session on my Win10 laptop, and JAWS was very loud.   I was frantically trying to find a hotkey for regulating that, but there seems to be nothing anymore. I checked in the JAWS commands as well. Anyone have a clue?

 

Gudrun

 

 


moderated Re: Touch Cursor

Richard Turner <richardturner42@...>
 

As always Sieghard, thanks for such good information.

 

That does make quite a difference.  I’ll explore things with the touch cursor when I think there should be more information available from now on.

 

Thanks again,

Richard

 

 

 

 

“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Touch Cursor

 

Hi Richard,

 

Yes, it is usable from the keyboard and often the only way to get to certain information.

You turn it on by pressing Shift+PC cursor. I think earlier I said doubl epress the PC cursor twice quickly, but that is how you turn it off again.

Try the Settings, go there with Control+I, tab once and press End to go to Update and Security, press enter to open it.

As soon as I press enter I hear Jaws say the following:

 

Your device is up to date. Last checked: Yesterday, ‏‎9:46 PM

Search box, Find a setting edit

 

Now, this information about your device is up to date and when it was checked is read, but if you now tab through all the options for Windows Update, the first item in “Upgrade and Security” you never hear it again, here is what you get:

 

Update & Security List box

Windows Update, 1 of 9

Check for updates Button

View installed update history Link

Change active hours Link

Restart options Link

Advanced options Link

Get help with your updates Link

Learn more Link

Check Storage Link

OS build info Link

Get help Link

Give us feedback Link

Home Button – this is the last item, tab once more and you are back in the settings search box:

Search box, Find a setting edit

 

Now, let’s do this:

I tab once from when I’m on “Windows Update”, the first of nine items in Update and Security, this puts me on “Check for Updates”.

Now turn on the touch cursor and arrow left once and bingo:

Check for updates Button – I just tabbed from the main list

Touch – I now turned on the touch cursor with Shift+PC cursor

Your device is up to date. Last checked: Yesterday, ‏‎9:46 PM – I arrowed left once and Jaws reads the information. You can now press NumPad Slash, the left mouse button to enter review mode and read that message word by word or character by character, pressing escape takes you out of review mode and you again are using th etouch cursor.

Check for updates button, has focus – I pressed right arrow again and will continue to do so, you notice at times Jaws now reads additional information from when you just tabbed through thes eoptions:

View installed update history link

Update settings

We’ll automatically download and install updates, except on metered connections (where charges may apply). In that case, we’ll automatically download only those updates required to keep Windows running smoothly.

Change active hours link – if you tab you go directly from View Update history to ACtive hours, the above text is not read

 

You get the point, just give it a try. Also, try to press enter on “Check for updates”, then turn on the touch cursor and arrow left.

Lastly, one app you may have to use from time to time is the Store app and as it is a UWP (universal windows platform) app you really need the touch cursor here.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Touch Cursor

 

OK, time for revealing my jaws ignorance again.

Using Windows 10 Home 64 bit, Jaws 2018, no touch screen; is the touch cursor usable from the keyboard?

If so, when would you turn it on and perhaps more importantly, how to turn it on.

 

Quickly tapping the numpad plus, doesn’t say anything about a touch cursor, nor does double tapping the numpad-minus key, though it does say Invisible.

 

I tried searching Jaws quick keys with insert+v and searching for touch, but the only thing that came up did not help.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

 

 

 

“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

 


moderated Re: Jaws and the MLB TV/Gameday Audio controls

Maria Campbell
 

It was the ACB that took on the MLB site and made it accessible, until this year.  I guess the ACB will have to get back on their case again--maybe?


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 4/14/2018 10:15 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:

Does anyone have any tips on setting the Major League Baseball TV Gameday Audio site to work better with speech?
The controls are Unlabled0 button, Unlabeled1 button, Unlabeled0 button, etc.
And it updates about every 15 seconds.
When I set place markers, they don’t work the next time I’m on the site.
Whenever I’m on the MLB.com site itself, not the Gameday audio site, each keystroke takes around 15 seconds to execute, such as up arrow, down arrow, Tab, etc.
The Gameday audio page worked fine until they combined it with the MLB TV page
I’m using the latest JAWS and IE11 with Windows 10.
Thanks,
Dennis


moderated Re: JAWS voices

Mario
 

ditto.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Sieghard Weitzel [mailto:sieghard@...]
Sent: Sunday, Apr 15, 2018 12:49 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS voices

That would be a sad day indeed.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS voices

Get rid of Eloquence?  Oh please! never!


Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 4/15/2018 12:20 PM, Andrew Diederick wrote:
Hello all:
Thank you for the information. I was afraid that everything would have
to be done one word at a time. I am not going to correct thousands of
words in the jaws dictionary for a vocalizer voice. I hope the makers
at freedom scientific never get rid of eloquence.
On Apr 15, 2018, at 9:05 AM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
wrote:

Hi, Mario. What I am saying is that, even if you put the same entries
into the dictionary of the Vocalizer voices as they were in the
Elequence voice, they won't be pronounced the same way as they were in
Eloquence. This is because the Vocalizer voices pronounce the same
groups of letters differently from the way Eloquence pronounces the same
groups of letters.

I wasn't saying that there aren't pronunciation dictionaries for the
Vocalizer voices, only that you will need to find completely different
spellings to make the Vocalizer voices pronounce words the same way they
were pronounced with Eloquence.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mario
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS voices

oh yes there is.

start the dictionary manager,
press control+shift+d if you want the changes to apply to all
programs you decide to use, press tab to skip past the add button, if
the entry you want to "transfer" is in a language folder, arrow to it
and press right arrow to reveal it's entries.), arrow to the entry
you want to transfer, note that there maybe entries that apply to all
languages, which are not found in any language folder but at the
bottom of this list.

tab to and space bar on the change button or just press alt+c, tab
until you get to a language combo box or just press alt+l.
from here, you can make the appropriate changes including the next 2,
3, or 4 combo boxes by subsequently tabbing to them and making the
appropriate choice, and finally space barring on the ok button.

unfortunately, I know of no way to "transfer" a group of
words/pronunciations at one shot. it looks like you'll have to do
each one by one. tedious to say the least.

I hope this is what is wanted. good luck.
-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@...]
Sent: Sunday, Apr 15, 2018 12:54 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS voices

I don't think it is possible to transfer the Eloquence pronunciation
dictionaries to the Vocalizer engine.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Andrew Diederick
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 9:28 PM
To: main
Subject: JAWS voices

Hello All,

I have been a jaws user for almost 15 years now. I like the
vocalizer voices but do not care for their pronunciation. It is not
the same as eloquence. That is the only thing that stops me from
using the vocalizer voices. Does anyone know how to transfer the
complete pronunciation dictionary from eloquence to a vocalizer
voice? -Andrew-









.


moderated Re: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

Ann Byrne
 

It does sound strange, but when I wrote FS about the table result, that was the instruction ... and it worked. I suppose a person could find the setting and change it from what it is to what is left, and that should work. (LOL)

At 01:21 PM 4/15/2018, you wrote:
Hi, Ann. I believe you mean the reverse. It needs to be changed from Copy Full Content to Copy from Vertual Cursor. Copy Full Content means that it will copy all formatting, including table layout.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

You can copy it into Word without the silly
tables by going into quick settings, virtual
cursor options, and changing the setting
"from virtual cursor"
to
"select and copy fulll content using screen highlight."



At 01:04 PM 4/15/2018, you wrote:
Yes. Instead of pasting it into Word, paste it
into Notepad. The table will go away. It will be straight text.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

thanks, everyone. Just one question: I use JAWS OCR in such situations
sometimes. However, when I paste the result into a word document, it
appears in the form of a table. Is there any way to prevent this?

On 15/04/2018, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:
Convenient OCR was introduced in Jaws 2013.
Using the "Recognize with Jaws" option from
the context menu is not what I
would call "Opening the PDF". Yes, it will
perform the OCR and display the
result in the PDF viewer, but you aren't
actually opening the file. I always
try Adobe first and only use the Jaws OCR feature if the document doesn't
read or only partially reads. I get a lot of invoices from supplier and
often they open up and seem accessible but then I sometimes realize it's
only the invoice header and all the information about the products
(description, quantity, price and so on) are missing. If I then bring up
Jaws OCR and let it do its thing I can
usually get this information and more
often than not properly presented in a table.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

Steve,
I'm not sure that is any more direct than
opening it in Adobe and using the
OCR keystrokes.
I knew one could do that, but I thought the
person was wanting a way to do
it from Adobe.
I learned from Ann that the OCR was
available at least as far back as Jaws
16.
As you know, Im fairly new to using Jaws ...

Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but t to make the world
quieter.â€






moderated Jaws and the MLB TV/Gameday Audio controls

Dennis Brown
 

Does anyone have any tips on setting the Major League Baseball TV Gameday Audio site to work better with speech?
The controls are Unlabled0 button, Unlabeled1 button, Unlabeled0 button, etc.
And it updates about every 15 seconds.
When I set place markers, they don’t work the next time I’m on the site.
Whenever I’m on the MLB.com site itself, not the Gameday audio site, each keystroke takes around 15 seconds to execute, such as up arrow, down arrow, Tab, etc.
The Gameday audio page worked fine until they combined it with the MLB TV page
I’m using the latest JAWS and IE11 with Windows 10.
Thanks,
Dennis


moderated Re: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Ann. I believe you mean the reverse. It needs to be changed from Copy Full Content to Copy from Vertual Cursor. Copy Full Content means that it will copy all formatting, including table layout.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

You can copy it into Word without the silly
tables by going into quick settings, virtual
cursor options, and changing the setting
"from virtual cursor"
to
"select and copy fulll content using screen highlight."



At 01:04 PM 4/15/2018, you wrote:
Yes. Instead of pasting it into Word, paste it
into Notepad. The table will go away. It will be straight text.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

thanks, everyone. Just one question: I use JAWS OCR in such situations
sometimes. However, when I paste the result into a word document, it
appears in the form of a table. Is there any way to prevent this?

On 15/04/2018, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:
Convenient OCR was introduced in Jaws 2013.
Using the "Recognize with Jaws" option from the context menu is not what I
would call "Opening the PDF". Yes, it will perform the OCR and display the
result in the PDF viewer, but you aren't
actually opening the file. I always
try Adobe first and only use the Jaws OCR feature if the document doesn't
read or only partially reads. I get a lot of invoices from supplier and
often they open up and seem accessible but then I sometimes realize it's
only the invoice header and all the information about the products
(description, quantity, price and so on) are missing. If I then bring up
Jaws OCR and let it do its thing I can
usually get this information and more
often than not properly presented in a table.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

Steve,
I'm not sure that is any more direct than opening it in Adobe and using the
OCR keystrokes.
I knew one could do that, but I thought the person was wanting a way to do
it from Adobe.
I learned from Ann that the OCR was available at least as far back as Jaws
16.
As you know, Im fairly new to using Jaws ...

Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world
quieter.â€


moderated Re: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

Ann Byrne
 

You can copy it into Word without the silly tables by going into quick settings, virtual cursor options, and changing the setting
"from virtual cursor"
to
"select and copy fulll content using screen highlight."

At 01:04 PM 4/15/2018, you wrote:
Yes. Instead of pasting it into Word, paste it into Notepad. The table will go away. It will be straight text.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

thanks, everyone. Just one question: I use JAWS OCR in such situations
sometimes. However, when I paste the result into a word document, it
appears in the form of a table. Is there any way to prevent this?

On 15/04/2018, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:
Convenient OCR was introduced in Jaws 2013.
Using the "Recognize with Jaws" option from the context menu is not what I
would call "Opening the PDF". Yes, it will perform the OCR and display the
result in the PDF viewer, but you aren't
actually opening the file. I always
try Adobe first and only use the Jaws OCR feature if the document doesn't
read or only partially reads. I get a lot of invoices from supplier and
often they open up and seem accessible but then I sometimes realize it's
only the invoice header and all the information about the products
(description, quantity, price and so on) are missing. If I then bring up
Jaws OCR and let it do its thing I can
usually get this information and more
often than not properly presented in a table.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

Steve,
I'm not sure that is any more direct than opening it in Adobe and using the
OCR keystrokes.
I knew one could do that, but I thought the person was wanting a way to do
it from Adobe.
I learned from Ann that the OCR was available at least as far back as Jaws
16.
As you know, Im fairly new to using Jaws ...

Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world
quieter.â€


moderated Re: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Yes. Instead of pasting it into Word, paste it into Notepad. The table will go away. It will be straight text.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:09 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

thanks, everyone. Just one question: I use JAWS OCR in such situations
sometimes. However, when I paste the result into a word document, it
appears in the form of a table. Is there any way to prevent this?

On 15/04/2018, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:
Convenient OCR was introduced in Jaws 2013.
Using the "Recognize with Jaws" option from the context menu is not what I
would call "Opening the PDF". Yes, it will perform the OCR and display the
result in the PDF viewer, but you aren't actually opening the file. I always
try Adobe first and only use the Jaws OCR feature if the document doesn't
read or only partially reads. I get a lot of invoices from supplier and
often they open up and seem accessible but then I sometimes realize it's
only the invoice header and all the information about the products
(description, quantity, price and so on) are missing. If I then bring up
Jaws OCR and let it do its thing I can usually get this information and more
often than not properly presented in a table.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

Steve,
I'm not sure that is any more direct than opening it in Adobe and using the
OCR keystrokes.
I knew one could do that, but I thought the person was wanting a way to do
it from Adobe.
I learned from Ann that the OCR was available at least as far back as Jaws
16.
As you know, Im fairly new to using Jaws ...

Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world
quieter.”
- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

Hi Richard,

You can already force it.

Simply find your PDF file in explorer, press the applications key and select
Recognise With JAWS.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 14 April 2018 16:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

Tom, it is not designed to do that because if it is not a scanned image, it
shouldn't require OCR.
If you want to try the scan, you will have to envoke it with the
keystrokes.
I suppose someone could write a script to force it, but that could bring
some unintended problems and slow things down if it is a large PDF.
But, what do I know, I've only really used Jaws since they killed
Window-Eyes.

HTH,
Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world
quieter.”
- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 8:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

Bill:

Regarding "recognize with Jaws", I have found that sometimes, if the file is
a scanned image file, recognize with Jaws will come up automatically.

In other cases, like the one we are dealing with here, this does not seem to
happen.

Does anyone know of a way to get "Recognize With Jaws" to come up
automatically for all PDF Documents?

Once again, I'm using the latest build of Jaws 2018 here on this Windows 7
machine.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

If you have JAWS 2018, try highlighting the PDF, press either the
Applications key or SHIFT plus F10, arrow down to recognize with JAWS, and
press ENTER. Wait for a few minutes, and your document should be rendered
and readable.

To save the document, open Word, notepad or some other program which will
save text, paste from the clipboard into the program, and save. This often
gives better results than Acrobat Reader DC.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul
Bajaj
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 2:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

Hi, the former - using it with Acrobat reader. it is a searchable pdf.

On 14/04/2018, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:
Hi, Rahul. How are you rendering the pdf document? are you using
Acrobat Reader DC, or are you using the OCR recognition feature of
JAWS to render the document into text? This might have a bearing on
how the document is displayed.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 11:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS Reading Multiple Words Together in PDF Documents

Hi everyone,

I am using JAWS 16 on a Windows 10 machine. Very often, JAWS reads
several words together in a PDF document, which makes it impossible to
figure out what it is saying. Is there a way to fix this, except by
way of converting the document into word?

Best,
Rahul




































moderated Re: Jaws losing focus

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Press INSERT plus V. In the search box that comes up, type Focus. The result which comes up will be Focus Loss Announcement. Space once to turn it off. TAB to OK, and press ENTER. It will now be off.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus

How do you turn it off?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus

Hi, Val. Here's what I do concerning the Lost Focus message. I turn it on for specific applications. I have it off for the Windows configuration, which is what loads when the system first boots up. I keep the Lost Focus message on for any application that requires editing, such as Notepad, Word, Wordpad, HJPad, Outlook, Internet Explorer, etc. This way, if I'm attempting to stay in an edit field, and the window loses focus, I won't waste my time typing into a non-focused window without an edit field.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus

Exactly. You don't even need the message, because you know it loses focus every time you boot up.

But it is a personal choice, if you like extra babble, leave it on.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: 13 April 2018 16:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus

Val, don't worry about the lack of focus message. My JAWS gives the same message when I turn on the computer and I just press my shortcut keys to open my email and go into Word.

Have a happy day.

Don


moderated Re: Jaws losing focus

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Thanks, I was looking for it in the main Settings, Jaws Key+6. Apparently this only applies to specific applications because typing “focus” in the search box in the main Settings Centre does not find such an option.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus

 

Hi Sieghard,

 

While in any application open Jaws quick settings with, Jaws key + V, type, focus, into the Search field, or down arrow to the, Focus loss announcement, checkbox.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:33 AM

Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus

 

How do you turn it off?


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus

Hi, Val. Here's what I do concerning the Lost Focus message. I turn it on for specific applications. I have it off for the Windows configuration, which is what loads when the system first boots up. I keep the Lost Focus message on for any application that requires editing, such as Notepad, Word, Wordpad, HJPad, Outlook, Internet Explorer, etc. This way, if I'm attempting to stay in an edit field, and the window loses focus, I won't waste my time typing into a non-focused window without an edit field.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:25 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus

Exactly.  You don't even need the message, because you know it loses focus every time you boot up.

But it is a personal choice, if you like extra babble, leave it on.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: 13 April 2018 16:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws losing focus

Val, don't worry about the lack of focus message.  My JAWS gives the same message when I turn on the computer and I just press my shortcut keys to open my email and go into Word.

Have a happy day.

Don

















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