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moderated Re: OCR software which works with jaws

 

Jaws Convenient OCR actually has been part of Jaws since version 13 so for about 6 years. In version 2018 it has been expanded to handle not just PDF image files, but also JPG and other formats. If you have a scanner you can scan any document, save it in PDF or JPG (most scanners nowadays probably save as PDF) and then use Jaws OCR on that file to recognize it.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 8:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OCR software which works with jaws

 

Paul,

 

Do you have JAWS 2018? If so, you should already have a built-in JAWS OCR capability.

 

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: paul lemm

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 08:12

Subject: OCR software which works with jaws

 

Hi,

 

I was wondering if anyone can recommend any good OCR software I can use to scan documents and turn them into text for Jaws to use. Not sure if there are any free OCR programs out there, if there are fantastic , but if not I’d be happy to look at paid versions to

 

Paul

 


moderated Re: OCR software which works with jaws

Dave...
 

Paul,
 
Do you have JAWS 2018? If so, you should already have a built-in JAWS OCR capability.
 
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
 
 

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From: paul lemm
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 08:12
Subject: OCR software which works with jaws

Hi,

 

I was wondering if anyone can recommend any good OCR software I can use to scan documents and turn them into text for Jaws to use. Not sure if there are any free OCR programs out there, if there are fantastic , but if not I’d be happy to look at paid versions to

 

Paul

 


moderated Re: OCR software which works with jaws

John Doering
 

Paul:

What version of JAWS are you running?

I believe as of version 17 JAWS has it’s own built in OCR.

Check your JAWS help files for how to use.

 

HTH,

 

 

 

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From: paul lemm [mailto:paul.lemm@...]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 10:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: OCR software which works with jaws

 

Hi,

 

I was wondering if anyone can recommend any good OCR software I can use to scan documents and turn them into text for Jaws to use. Not sure if there are any free OCR programs out there, if there are fantastic , but if not I’d be happy to look at paid versions to

 

Paul

 


moderated OCR software which works with jaws

paul lemm
 

Hi,

 

I was wondering if anyone can recommend any good OCR software I can use to scan documents and turn them into text for Jaws to use. Not sure if there are any free OCR programs out there, if there are fantastic , but if not I’d be happy to look at paid versions to

 

Paul

 


moderated Youtube-DL UI not launching

Mario
 

I have downloaded the latest version of YTDLUi from:
http://www.softcon.com/ytdlui.html

and youtube-dl from:
http://www.ytdl.org

and copied both executables to a YTDL folder, but am experiencing a
problem getting YTDLUi to start. I keep getting "Errors occurred, please
check YTDLUI.log for more details." but the LOG file is 0 k. is Travis
Siegel on this list anymore?


moderated Re: JAWS Losing Focus in Chrome Due to Ads

Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@...>
 

I am finding that flexable web doesn't work in chrome. Not sure if it is supposed to or whether there is something with my machine.
Tom Bisset

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonas Voll
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 7:40 AM
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Subject: Re: JAWS Losing Focus in Chrome Due to Ads

Pam this is what you can find in the Jaws help!
Flexible Web
Frequently, you will encounter Web pages that contain a lot of excess content which can make it difficult to locate the actual content you want, or interupts the flow when reading. For instance, many sites contain Google ad frames. These can be troublesome for JAWS users as they disrupt the reading order of surrounding content.

Flexible Web enables you to take more control of Web pages by allowing you to quickly find the content you are looking for, as well as hide content that interrupts the reading experience. You can hide sections of content, such as Google ad frames or other types of unnecessary content, for a smoother reading experience. In addition, you could have JAWS begin reading at a level one heading, or ARIA main region, as these may contain the most interesting content.

To use Flexible Web, open a Web page you want to customize in Internet Explorer or Firefox. Then, move the Virtual PC Cursor to the page element you want to hide, or from where you want to start reading when the page first loads. Activate the Flexible Web wizard by pressing the layered keystroke INSERT+SPACEBAR, X. Alternatively, press INSERT+F2 to open the Run JAWS Manager dialog box, then choose Flexible Web.

Through several easy-to-follow steps, The Flexible Web wizard that opens provides you with two options: hide, or start reading at the selected element. The wizard then guides you through the process of creating a temporary customization by giving you various choices about the selected element and how you want to hide it or from where exactly to start reading. Once the customization has been made, it is immediately applied to the page. For instance, if you choose to hide all frames containing advertisements, you will not see any advertisements when navigating the page after making this temporary customization.

If you are not happy with how a customization is working, you can open the Flexible Web wizard to undo the last customization you made. When you return to the page, you can choose a different element or the same one, then reactivate the Flexible Web wizard to retry the customization again perhaps with different criteria. For example, in the case of hiding those advertisement frames mentioned earlier, you probably want to hide all of them, not just the first one on the page. The wizard will provide you with choices about whether to hide just the first one or all of them.

You can create as many customizations for a page as you want. Once you have created one or more customizations, you can save them as a rule, which is applied every time you load the particular page or site. To indicate that a rule has been applied to a page, JAWS plays a sound after the page loads. Rules can be applied to the current Web page, entire Web site, or globally for all Web sites. Otherwise, customizations are only temporary and are lost as soon as you navigate away from the current Web page or close the browser. If you have made temporary customizations and you attempt to navigate to another page or close the browser, a dialog box opens asking if you want to save your customizations as a rule.

Creating Customizations and Rules
Following is an example of a situation where you might use Flexible Web to improve the reading experience on a Web page.

You frequently visit a news Web site where you would like to have JAWS start reading at the beginning of the article, which is the first level one heading on the page. Between the heading and the beginning of the text is an annoying frame called Social containing links to various social Web sites that you do not want to hear or read. You would first create two temporary customizations that start reading at the first level 1 heading and hide all frames named Social. You would then save these as a rule which will be applied each time you load a page from this Web site.

Creating Temporary Customizations
To customize this site so JAWS starts reading at the first level one heading and ignores the Social frame, do the following:

Move the Virtual PC Cursor to the first level one heading which contains the title of the article and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard. By default, the Create new customization radio button is selected.
Choose Next and you are prompted with the type of customization you want to create. Select Start reading at an element, then choose Next.
You are now asked what element you want to customize. The first item in the list is the level one heading containing the article title. Since this is the element where you want JAWS to start reading, choose Next.
In the list box, select a customization. In this case, select the option Start reading at heading 1, 1 from the top. This is because you want this customization to work for every article on the site, not just the current one.
Choose Finish and you are returned to the page.
Move the Virtual PC Cursor to the frame called Social and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard again. Since a customization has already been created, there are now several radio buttons that have become available, including Retry, Undo, and Save temporary customizations as a rule. However, the default radio button is still Create a new customization, so choose Next.
Select Hide an element, then choose Next.
From the list of elements you can customize, choose the Social frame, then choose Next.
In the list of possible choices for how to hide the selected element, select Hide all frames named Social. This hides all frames with the name Social no matter where they appear on the page.
Choose Finish to return to the page. As you navigate the page, the virtual buffer will no longer show the Social frame between the title of the article and its text.
Note: Customizations only apply for the current browser window or tab. This allows you to have the same page open in two browser windows at the same time so you can try customizations on one page, while leaving the other one unchanged.

Retrying a Customization
If you are not completely satisfied with how a customization is working, you can undo the customization and try creating it again. For instance, you may have created the customization using the wrong element.

To retry a customization, do the following:

Move the Virtual PC cursor to the element on the page you want to customize and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard.
Select the Retry radio button and choose Next.
The most recent customization you made is deleted. Follow the steps in the wizard to create a new customization.
If you want to delete the last customization you made without creating a new one, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard and choose the Undo radio button. Select Finish to remove the customization and return to the Web page.

Saving One or More Temporary Customizations as a Rule Currently,the customizations you made in this example are temporary. To save them as a permenant rule, do the following:

Press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard. Select the Save temporary customizations as a rule radio button, then choose Next.
In the Rule name edit field, enter a name for the rule, for example, "News Article Web Site".
Press TAB to move to the checkable list of customizations that will be included in the rule. By default, all customizations are selected. You can exclude a customization from the rule by pressing the SPACEBAR to clear its check mark.
Press TAB to move to the How would you like this rule to apply combo box. The available choices are Globally, To the current site, or To the current page. The default option is To the current site. If you want to apply the rule to the current page (such as the home page of a site), or globally, so it applies to all sites, move up or down through the combo box to select the option you want. In our example, we will choose the default so that the rule is applied to any page within the current site.
Choose Finish to create the new rule.
Now, when ever you visit any page on this site, JAWS will begin reading at the first level 1 heading and all frames named Social will not appear in the virtual view.

Rules are browser specific. This means that if you save rules for a page in Internet Explorer then access the same page in Firefox, the rules you created will not work. You will need to create the rule again in Firefox.

Managing Rules
You can manage rules by opening the Flexible Web wizard and choosing View and change where rules apply. In the dialog box that opens, you can rename, delete, enable,disable, or move existing rules from one page or site to another without having to re-create the entire rule.

The Flexible Web viewer dialog box contains a tree view and a checkable list view. The tree view lists the sites and pages for which you have saved Flexible Web rules. The top level is Global, level one is Current site, and level two is Current page. The list view shows all rules. Every rule has a check mark next to it. If a rule is supposed to be executed for a current location in the tree view, the rule is checked, otherwise it is unchecked.

For example, let’s say that you have created three different rules: "Rule A" to be applied globally for all sites, “Rule B” for google.com, and “Rule C” for a specific page on cnn.com. If Global is selected in the tree, you will find that only “Rule A” will be checked in the list of rules, which means that no matter how many saved rules there are, only “Rule A” will run on every single page.

If the currently selected item in the tree is google.com, then both “Rule A” and “Rule B” will be checked. “Rule A” is checked for google.com because it is supposed to run on all sites and “Rule B” is checked, because it was saved specifically for google.com. “Rule C” is not checked because it was saved for one of the pages on cnn.com and therefore does not apply to google.com.

From the list of rules, you can enable or disable rules as well as delete, rename, or view properties of the selected rule.

Enabling or Disabling a Rule
To enable or disable a rule for a site or page, do the following:

From the browser where you have created Flexible Web rules, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard.
Choose the View and change where rules apply radio button.
Move to the Finish button and press ENTER. This closes the wizard and opens a viewer that contains a treeview. Its root is Global, its level 1 branch is Current site, and its level 2 branch is Current page. The default location when the Viewer opens is Global.
Navigate the tree, opening the Current Site or Current page branch as desired. Each branch will include the name of the site or page of a site.
From the desired site or page whose rules you want to examine, press TAB to move to the next control. This is a checkable list view of rules. If the currently selected rule is being applied to the current page or site, it will be checked. Otherwise, any rules that appear in the list will be unchecked.
If the rule is currently checked – that is, it is applied to the current page, site, or globally, and you just want to disable it without deleting it, then uncheck the rule by pressing SPACEBAR. Otherwise, if the rule is unchecked – that is, it is not applied to the current page or site, but you do wish to apply it, then check it by pressing SPACEBAR.
When you are finished, press TAB to move to the Close button and press ENTER.
Deleting a Rule
To delete a rule, do the following:

From the browser where you have created Flexible Web rules, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard.
Choose the View and change where rules apply radio button and press ENTER.
When the Flexible Web viewer opens, press TAB to move to the list of rules.
Navigate to the rule you want to delete and press the DELETE Key. Alternatively, press the APPLICATIONS Key to open the context menu and choose Delete. When asked if you want to continue, choose Yes to delete the rule, or No to cancel the deletion.
Caution: If you choose Yes, the rule will be deleted and you will have to recreate it in order to use it again. This also means that if there were multiple sites or pages that were using this rule, they will no longer run it as well. If you need to temporarily stop a rule from being applied for a specific page or site, simply clear its check mark instead of deleting it. You can then select it again when you need it.

When you are finished, press TAB to move to the Close button and press ENTER.
Renaming a Rule
To rename a rule, do the following:

From the browser where you have created Flexible Web rules, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard.
Choose the View and change where rules apply radio button and press ENTER.
When the Flexible Web viewer opens, press TAB to move to the list of rules.
Navigate to the rule you want to rename and press F2 to rename the rule. Alternatively, you can press the APPLICATIONS Key to open the context menu and choose Rename. This opens a dialog box where you can edit the name of the rule similar to renaming a file in Windows Explorer.
Edit the rule name then press ENTER to confirm the change or ESC to cancel.
When you are finished, press TAB to move to the Close button and press ENTER.
Viewing the Customizations in a Rule
To view the list of customizations that are included in a rule, do the following:

From the browser where you have created Flexible Web rules, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard.
Choose the View and change where rules apply radio button and press ENTER.
When the Flexible Web viewer opens, press TAB to move to the list of rules.
Navigate to the rule you want to view, then press the APPLICATIONS Key to open the context menu and choose Properties.
When the Properties dialog box opens, you are on a read-only control that shows the name of the current rule whose settings you wish to examine. For example, you may have set several temporary customizations as a single rule. Therefore, the properties for the rule will include the various customizations made for that rule. Press TAB to move to the properties list and use the ARROW keys to navigate the list of properties associated with the rule.
When you are done examining the properties of the current rule, press TAB to move to the Close button and press ENTER to return to the viewer. Select the Close button once more to exit the viewer and return to the browser.
Using Other JAWS Features on a Web Page Where Flexible Web Rules are Applied Where applicable, other JAWS features such as PlaceMarkers, Custom Page Summary, and Personalized Settings will continue to be in effect for a page where Flexible Web rules have been applied to it. This depends on whether a setting applied as a Flexible Web rule conflicts with a setting that is not a Flexible Web rule. For example, if you have created a PlaceMarker for a page that is located on an element that has now been hidden because a Flexible Web rule has been applied to that page, the PlaceMarker will not be found when you attempt to move to it.

For pages that automatically update information frequently, any Flexible Web rules applied will still be in effect as the page updates. Additionally, if a page automatically sets focus to a control, such as an edit field for searching, this takes precedence over any rules that start reading at a specific element.

When selecting and copying text from a Web page where Flexible Web rules have been applied, if Select and Copy Full Content Using Onscreen Highlight is selected in Quick Settings, all content is copied, including any hidden content that was included in the selection. If you do not want to include any hidden content when selecting, choose the Select and Copy from Virtual Cursor option.

Turning Off Flexible Web
Flexible Web is on by default. To turn it off so rules are not applied when pages load, do the following:

Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center.
Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the JAWS default settings.
In the Search edit box, type "Flexible Web" without the quotes.
Press DOWN ARROW to move to Flexible Web in the filtered search results in the tree view.
Next, press SPACEBAR to enable or disable Flexible Web.



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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 4:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS Losing Focus in Chrome Due to Ads

Hi,

I am finding that if I am arrowing down through content on a web page with Chrome, focus can suddenly change to where an ad is being displayed, and then I have to find where the content I am interested in is again.

An example of a page where this is occurring is:
http://thewellflouredkitchen.com/2015/08/11/blueberry-phyllo-dough-turnovers/

Can anyone suggest a way to stop JAWS from doing this, or to get rid of the ads?

Thanks.

Pam




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moderated Re: Finding FaceBook Unfriend Button

Terrie Terlau
 

Thank you, Joe. This is exactly what I needed. Also, thanks for breaking down the process with the Find Link command.  This really helps.

Best,

Terrie Terlau

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joe DiNero
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 5:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Finding FaceBook Unfriend Button

 

I am not sure how fast your verbosity is I  find that elements/links are often read together . The more button is right after the message button/link. My suggestion is bring up your links list while you are on the page of the person that you want to unfriend and then find the message link listed and more is the very next link. I think that is the safe wayin case there is more than 1 more link on the page.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Terrie Terlau
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 10:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Finding FaceBook Unfriend Button

 

Using mobile FaceBook page with Jaws 18 and Windows 7, I looked up Help directions for unfriending. I am to go to a friend’s profile to unfriend. I should find a More button and then unfriend and confirm buttons. I don’t find a More button on the profile and therefore can’t do the rest. Can someone suggest how I can find this button? Or is there an easier way to unfriend using Jaws?

Thank you very very much!

Terrie Terlau

 

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moderated Re: Tandem Questions

Mario
 

so then, the answer for Mike is yes. go for it.

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From: Angel [mailto:angel238@...]
Sent: Friday, Mar 23, 2018 8:15 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Tandem Questions

Tandem began with Jaws 10.
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From: Jonas Voll
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: Tandem Questions


Your XP box needs to have a version of Jaws that supports Tandem!

I cant remember at what version Jaws started Tandem, but I think
the host your using just needs to have a newer version of Jaws (your
Windows 7 box).



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opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through
employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 11:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Tandem Questions



Hi All,



I'm running Windows 7 Pro with J16 as my oldest version of Jaws
installed. I need to Tandem into an XP computer to get some
information, but being that the latest version of Jaws that XP allows,
from what I understand is Jaws 15, can I Tandem into this XP computer
under these circumstances? All help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers!
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moderated Re: Tandem Questions

Angel
 

Tandem began with Jaws 10.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jonas Voll
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: Tandem Questions

Your XP box needs to have a version of Jaws that supports  Tandem!

I cant remember  at what version Jaws started Tandem, but I think the host your using just needs to have a newer version of Jaws (your Windows 7 box).

 

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Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration and opportunity for people who are blind or visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 11:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Tandem Questions

 

Hi All,

 

I'm running Windows 7 Pro with J16 as my oldest version of Jaws installed.  I need to Tandem into an XP computer to get some information, but being that the latest version of Jaws that XP allows, from what I understand is Jaws 15, can I Tandem into this XP computer under these circumstances?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

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moderated Re: JAWS Losing Focus in Chrome Due to Ads

Jonas Voll
 

Pam this is what you can find in the Jaws help!
Flexible Web
Frequently, you will encounter Web pages that contain a lot of excess content which can make it difficult to locate the actual content you want, or interupts the flow when reading. For instance, many sites contain Google ad frames. These can be troublesome for JAWS users as they disrupt the reading order of surrounding content.

Flexible Web enables you to take more control of Web pages by allowing you to quickly find the content you are looking for, as well as hide content that interrupts the reading experience. You can hide sections of content, such as Google ad frames or other types of unnecessary content, for a smoother reading experience. In addition, you could have JAWS begin reading at a level one heading, or ARIA main region, as these may contain the most interesting content.

To use Flexible Web, open a Web page you want to customize in Internet Explorer or Firefox. Then, move the Virtual PC Cursor to the page element you want to hide, or from where you want to start reading when the page first loads. Activate the Flexible Web wizard by pressing the layered keystroke INSERT+SPACEBAR, X. Alternatively, press INSERT+F2 to open the Run JAWS Manager dialog box, then choose Flexible Web.

Through several easy-to-follow steps, The Flexible Web wizard that opens provides you with two options: hide, or start reading at the selected element. The wizard then guides you through the process of creating a temporary customization by giving you various choices about the selected element and how you want to hide it or from where exactly to start reading. Once the customization has been made, it is immediately applied to the page. For instance, if you choose to hide all frames containing advertisements, you will not see any advertisements when navigating the page after making this temporary customization.

If you are not happy with how a customization is working, you can open the Flexible Web wizard to undo the last customization you made. When you return to the page, you can choose a different element or the same one, then reactivate the Flexible Web wizard to retry the customization again perhaps with different criteria. For example, in the case of hiding those advertisement frames mentioned earlier, you probably want to hide all of them, not just the first one on the page. The wizard will provide you with choices about whether to hide just the first one or all of them.

You can create as many customizations for a page as you want. Once you have created one or more customizations, you can save them as a rule, which is applied every time you load the particular page or site. To indicate that a rule has been applied to a page, JAWS plays a sound after the page loads. Rules can be applied to the current Web page, entire Web site, or globally for all Web sites. Otherwise, customizations are only temporary and are lost as soon as you navigate away from the current Web page or close the browser. If you have made temporary customizations and you attempt to navigate to another page or close the browser, a dialog box opens asking if you want to save your customizations as a rule.

Creating Customizations and Rules
Following is an example of a situation where you might use Flexible Web to improve the reading experience on a Web page.

You frequently visit a news Web site where you would like to have JAWS start reading at the beginning of the article, which is the first level one heading on the page. Between the heading and the beginning of the text is an annoying frame called Social containing links to various social Web sites that you do not want to hear or read. You would first create two temporary customizations that start reading at the first level 1 heading and hide all frames named Social. You would then save these as a rule which will be applied each time you load a page from this Web site.

Creating Temporary Customizations
To customize this site so JAWS starts reading at the first level one heading and ignores the Social frame, do the following:

Move the Virtual PC Cursor to the first level one heading which contains the title of the article and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard. By default, the Create new customization radio button is selected.
Choose Next and you are prompted with the type of customization you want to create. Select Start reading at an element, then choose Next.
You are now asked what element you want to customize. The first item in the list is the level one heading containing the article title. Since this is the element where you want JAWS to start reading, choose Next.
In the list box, select a customization. In this case, select the option Start reading at heading 1, 1 from the top. This is because you want this customization to work for every article on the site, not just the current one.
Choose Finish and you are returned to the page.
Move the Virtual PC Cursor to the frame called Social and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard again. Since a customization has already been created, there are now several radio buttons that have become available, including Retry, Undo, and Save temporary customizations as a rule. However, the default radio button is still Create a new customization, so choose Next.
Select Hide an element, then choose Next.
From the list of elements you can customize, choose the Social frame, then choose Next.
In the list of possible choices for how to hide the selected element, select Hide all frames named Social. This hides all frames with the name Social no matter where they appear on the page.
Choose Finish to return to the page. As you navigate the page, the virtual buffer will no longer show the Social frame between the title of the article and its text.
Note: Customizations only apply for the current browser window or tab. This allows you to have the same page open in two browser windows at the same time so you can try customizations on one page, while leaving the other one unchanged.

Retrying a Customization
If you are not completely satisfied with how a customization is working, you can undo the customization and try creating it again. For instance, you may have created the customization using the wrong element.

To retry a customization, do the following:

Move the Virtual PC cursor to the element on the page you want to customize and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard.
Select the Retry radio button and choose Next.
The most recent customization you made is deleted. Follow the steps in the wizard to create a new customization.
If you want to delete the last customization you made without creating a new one, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard and choose the Undo radio button. Select Finish to remove the customization and return to the Web page.

Saving One or More Temporary Customizations as a Rule
Currently,the customizations you made in this example are temporary. To save them as a permenant rule, do the following:

Press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard. Select the Save temporary customizations as a rule radio button, then choose Next.
In the Rule name edit field, enter a name for the rule, for example, "News Article Web Site".
Press TAB to move to the checkable list of customizations that will be included in the rule. By default, all customizations are selected. You can exclude a customization from the rule by pressing the SPACEBAR to clear its check mark.
Press TAB to move to the How would you like this rule to apply combo box. The available choices are Globally, To the current site, or To the current page. The default option is To the current site. If you want to apply the rule to the current page (such as the home page of a site), or globally, so it applies to all sites, move up or down through the combo box to select the option you want. In our example, we will choose the default so that the rule is applied to any page within the current site.
Choose Finish to create the new rule.
Now, when ever you visit any page on this site, JAWS will begin reading at the first level 1 heading and all frames named Social will not appear in the virtual view.

Rules are browser specific. This means that if you save rules for a page in Internet Explorer then access the same page in Firefox, the rules you created will not work. You will need to create the rule again in Firefox.

Managing Rules
You can manage rules by opening the Flexible Web wizard and choosing View and change where rules apply. In the dialog box that opens, you can rename, delete, enable,disable, or move existing rules from one page or site to another without having to re-create the entire rule.

The Flexible Web viewer dialog box contains a tree view and a checkable list view. The tree view lists the sites and pages for which you have saved Flexible Web rules. The top level is Global, level one is Current site, and level two is Current page. The list view shows all rules. Every rule has a check mark next to it. If a rule is supposed to be executed for a current location in the tree view, the rule is checked, otherwise it is unchecked.

For example, let’s say that you have created three different rules: "Rule A" to be applied globally for all sites, “Rule B” for google.com, and “Rule C” for a specific page on cnn.com. If Global is selected in the tree, you will find that only “Rule A” will be checked in the list of rules, which means that no matter how many saved rules there are, only “Rule A” will run on every single page.

If the currently selected item in the tree is google.com, then both “Rule A” and “Rule B” will be checked. “Rule A” is checked for google.com because it is supposed to run on all sites and “Rule B” is checked, because it was saved specifically for google.com. “Rule C” is not checked because it was saved for one of the pages on cnn.com and therefore does not apply to google.com.

From the list of rules, you can enable or disable rules as well as delete, rename, or view properties of the selected rule.

Enabling or Disabling a Rule
To enable or disable a rule for a site or page, do the following:

From the browser where you have created Flexible Web rules, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard.
Choose the View and change where rules apply radio button.
Move to the Finish button and press ENTER. This closes the wizard and opens a viewer that contains a treeview. Its root is Global, its level 1 branch is Current site, and its level 2 branch is Current page. The default location when the Viewer opens is Global.
Navigate the tree, opening the Current Site or Current page branch as desired. Each branch will include the name of the site or page of a site.
From the desired site or page whose rules you want to examine, press TAB to move to the next control. This is a checkable list view of rules. If the currently selected rule is being applied to the current page or site, it will be checked. Otherwise, any rules that appear in the list will be unchecked.
If the rule is currently checked – that is, it is applied to the current page, site, or globally, and you just want to disable it without deleting it, then uncheck the rule by pressing SPACEBAR. Otherwise, if the rule is unchecked – that is, it is not applied to the current page or site, but you do wish to apply it, then check it by pressing SPACEBAR.
When you are finished, press TAB to move to the Close button and press ENTER.
Deleting a Rule
To delete a rule, do the following:

From the browser where you have created Flexible Web rules, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard.
Choose the View and change where rules apply radio button and press ENTER.
When the Flexible Web viewer opens, press TAB to move to the list of rules.
Navigate to the rule you want to delete and press the DELETE Key. Alternatively, press the APPLICATIONS Key to open the context menu and choose Delete. When asked if you want to continue, choose Yes to delete the rule, or No to cancel the deletion.
Caution: If you choose Yes, the rule will be deleted and you will have to recreate it in order to use it again. This also means that if there were multiple sites or pages that were using this rule, they will no longer run it as well. If you need to temporarily stop a rule from being applied for a specific page or site, simply clear its check mark instead of deleting it. You can then select it again when you need it.

When you are finished, press TAB to move to the Close button and press ENTER.
Renaming a Rule
To rename a rule, do the following:

From the browser where you have created Flexible Web rules, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard.
Choose the View and change where rules apply radio button and press ENTER.
When the Flexible Web viewer opens, press TAB to move to the list of rules.
Navigate to the rule you want to rename and press F2 to rename the rule. Alternatively, you can press the APPLICATIONS Key to open the context menu and choose Rename. This opens a dialog box where you can edit the name of the rule similar to renaming a file in Windows Explorer.
Edit the rule name then press ENTER to confirm the change or ESC to cancel.
When you are finished, press TAB to move to the Close button and press ENTER.
Viewing the Customizations in a Rule
To view the list of customizations that are included in a rule, do the following:

From the browser where you have created Flexible Web rules, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, X to open the Flexible Web wizard.
Choose the View and change where rules apply radio button and press ENTER.
When the Flexible Web viewer opens, press TAB to move to the list of rules.
Navigate to the rule you want to view, then press the APPLICATIONS Key to open the context menu and choose Properties.
When the Properties dialog box opens, you are on a read-only control that shows the name of the current rule whose settings you wish to examine. For example, you may have set several temporary customizations as a single rule. Therefore, the properties for the rule will include the various customizations made for that rule. Press TAB to move to the properties list and use the ARROW keys to navigate the list of properties associated with the rule.
When you are done examining the properties of the current rule, press TAB to move to the Close button and press ENTER to return to the viewer. Select the Close button once more to exit the viewer and return to the browser.
Using Other JAWS Features on a Web Page Where Flexible Web Rules are Applied
Where applicable, other JAWS features such as PlaceMarkers, Custom Page Summary, and Personalized Settings will continue to be in effect for a page where Flexible Web rules have been applied to it. This depends on whether a setting applied as a Flexible Web rule conflicts with a setting that is not a Flexible Web rule. For example, if you have created a PlaceMarker for a page that is located on an element that has now been hidden because a Flexible Web rule has been applied to that page, the PlaceMarker will not be found when you attempt to move to it.

For pages that automatically update information frequently, any Flexible Web rules applied will still be in effect as the page updates. Additionally, if a page automatically sets focus to a control, such as an edit field for searching, this takes precedence over any rules that start reading at a specific element.

When selecting and copying text from a Web page where Flexible Web rules have been applied, if Select and Copy Full Content Using Onscreen Highlight is selected in Quick Settings, all content is copied, including any hidden content that was included in the selection. If you do not want to include any hidden content when selecting, choose the Select and Copy from Virtual Cursor option.

Turning Off Flexible Web
Flexible Web is on by default. To turn it off so rules are not applied when pages load, do the following:

Press INSERT+F2, and select Settings Center.
Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the JAWS default settings.
In the Search edit box, type "Flexible Web" without the quotes.
Press DOWN ARROW to move to Flexible Web in the filtered search results in the tree view.
Next, press SPACEBAR to enable or disable Flexible Web.



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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 4:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JAWS Losing Focus in Chrome Due to Ads

Hi,

I am finding that if I am arrowing down through content on a web page with Chrome, focus can suddenly change to where an ad is being displayed, and then I have to find where the content I am interested in is again.

An example of a page where this is occurring is:
http://thewellflouredkitchen.com/2015/08/11/blueberry-phyllo-dough-turnovers/

Can anyone suggest a way to stop JAWS from doing this, or to get rid of the ads?

Thanks.

Pam




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moderated Re: Tandem Questions

Jonas Voll
 

Your XP box needs to have a version of Jaws that supports  Tandem!

I cant remember  at what version Jaws started Tandem, but I think the host your using just needs to have a newer version of Jaws (your Windows 7 box).

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 11:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Tandem Questions

 

Hi All,

 

I'm running Windows 7 Pro with J16 as my oldest version of Jaws installed.  I need to Tandem into an XP computer to get some information, but being that the latest version of Jaws that XP allows, from what I understand is Jaws 15, can I Tandem into this XP computer under these circumstances?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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moderated Tandem Questions

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,
 
I'm running Windows 7 Pro with J16 as my oldest version of Jaws installed.  I need to Tandem into an XP computer to get some information, but being that the latest version of Jaws that XP allows, from what I understand is Jaws 15, can I Tandem into this XP computer under these circumstances?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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moderated Re: Reading column titles in Excel

Ann Byrne
 

Oops. Four keys, but they are
insert+ctrl+alt+c. It's a reall stretch.


moderated Re: Reading column titles in Excel

Ann Byrne
 

It's a four-key command: insert+ctrl+shift+c.

Good luck!

At 08:33 PM 3/22/2018, you wrote:
Due to problems with my new laptop and having to drop it off at the place I purchased it, I had to use my old one. This is Windows 7 and Excel 2010. The key strokes are Jaws key, alt, shift and the letter C. It now says unknown. When I tried the Jaws key, alt, control and the letter C it doesn't say anything. What is up?

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 8:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading column titles in Excel

Hello:
Place your focus in a cell in the column you have the titles you wish to have spoken. Then the key stroke is JAWS key + alt +control+ c. Which will toggle the title reading on and off.
Note it is control and not shift.

HTH,





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From: kevin meyers [<mailto:kman2020@...>mailto:kman2020@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 8:02 AM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading column titles in Excel


Hello,

I have tried reading column titles through many versions of Jaws and it never has worked. I'm using Jaws2018 and Windows 10. I press the keys jaws, alt, shift and the letter C and it says no column title. There is a column title. Do I need to turn on something else within Jaws to get this to work.

Cheers,

Kevin



moderated Re: Static problem has come back

kevin meyers
 

I took the laptop back to the computer store. I hope the problem shows up when they check it out. They told me if it does they may have to replace the mother board which has the sound card on it. Or they may just switch to a different laptop.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 7:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Static problem has come back

Hello Vaughn:

I think the sound card with which this person is having a problem, is the
sound card on their motherboard.

If that is the case, the only way they could change the sound card is, to
purchase a USB sound Card or, use a USB or Bluetooth headset.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

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From: "Vaughn Brown" <jazzdressage@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 4:00 AM
Subject: Re: Static problem has come back


This sounds like a pysical problem. I have JAWS and Duxbury and do not
have this issue. I, too, find this disturbing. What about replacing
the sound card?
Vaughn1

On 3/19/18, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:
Hello, As some of you may know I had the static problem when Jaws
speakes.
I
was able to stop this from occurring by disabling enhancements under the
sound card. I just installed Duxbury software for sending text to my
Braille
printer. When in Duxbury the static was back. I went into word and it was
static like it was before. Now it is not just when typing, it is all the
time. I closed out of everything and rebooted. The static noise went
away.
I
went into word and there was no static. I then went into Duxbury and the
static came back. I checked enhancements under the sound card and it was
still disabled. Now what? Is there something on the internet that gives
ratings for sound cards?


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moderated Re: Reading column titles in Excel

kevin meyers
 

Due to problems with my new laptop and having to drop it off at the place I purchased it, I had to use my old one.  This is Windows 7 and Excel 2010. The key strokes are Jaws key, alt, shift and the letter C. It now says unknown. When I tried the Jaws key, alt, control and the letter C it doesn’t say anything. What is up?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 8:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading column titles in Excel

 

Hello:

Place your focus in a cell in the column you have the titles you wish to have spoken.  Then the key stroke is JAWS key + alt +control+ c.  Which will toggle the title reading on and off.

Note it is control and not shift.

 

HTH,

 

 

 

John Doering

Administrative Pricing Specialist 

 

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From: kevin meyers [mailto:kman2020@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 8:02 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading column titles in Excel

 

 

Hello,

 

I have tried reading column titles through many versions of Jaws and it never has worked. I’m using Jaws2018 and Windows 10. I press the keys jaws, alt, shift and the letter  C and it says no column title. There is a column title. Do I need to turn on something else within Jaws to get this to work.

 

Cheers,

 

Kevin

 

 


moderated Re: Finding FaceBook Unfriend Button

Joe DiNero
 

I am not sure how fast your verbosity is I  find that elements/links are often read together . The more button is right after the message button/link. My suggestion is bring up your links list while you are on the page of the person that you want to unfriend and then find the message link listed and more is the very next link. I think that is the safe wayin case there is more than 1 more link on the page.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Terrie Terlau
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 10:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Finding FaceBook Unfriend Button

 

Using mobile FaceBook page with Jaws 18 and Windows 7, I looked up Help directions for unfriending. I am to go to a friend’s profile to unfriend. I should find a More button and then unfriend and confirm buttons. I don’t find a More button on the profile and therefore can’t do the rest. Can someone suggest how I can find this button? Or is there an easier way to unfriend using Jaws?

Thank you very very much!

Terrie Terlau


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moderated JAWS Losing Focus in Chrome Due to Ads

Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
 

Hi,

I am finding that if I am arrowing down through content on a web page with Chrome, focus can suddenly change to where an ad is being displayed, and then I have to find where the content I am interested in is again.

An example of a page where this is occurring is:
http://thewellflouredkitchen.com/2015/08/11/blueberry-phyllo-dough-turnovers/

Can anyone suggest a way to stop JAWS from doing this, or to get rid of the ads?

Thanks.

Pam


moderated Finding FaceBook Unfriend Button

Terrie Terlau
 

Using mobile FaceBook page with Jaws 18 and Windows 7, I looked up Help directions for unfriending. I am to go to a friend’s profile to unfriend. I should find a More button and then unfriend and confirm buttons. I don’t find a More button on the profile and therefore can’t do the rest. Can someone suggest how I can find this button? Or is there an easier way to unfriend using Jaws?

Thank you very very much!

Terrie Terlau


moderated Re: jaws saying listbox before each arrow key press

Michal Nowicki
 

John,

I have experienced exactly the same issue from time to time over the last
few months. Unfortunately, it has been so sporadic that I have not been able
to pinpoint the cause of the problem. I would, however, like to know what is
causing this annoying behavior. If anyone has any information, please post
it to this list.

Best,

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 12:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws saying listbox before each arrow key press

I have some more information, it seems only to happen in certain sections,
not the whole document. I have never seen this before.

On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 01:41:43 -0400,
John Covici wrote:

Hi. I am using word 2016 office 365 and Windows 10 1709. I am having
a problem when I press any arrow key jaws says listbox before saying
what the arrow key should say. This just started while reading a
manual about jaws scripting.

Any ideas on this would be appreciated.

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