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moderated Ms Word comments

Sabahudin Tricic
 

Hi,

I am using Ms word 2016, JFW 17, Windows 10.

Can somebody please  explain how I can  reply to a comment that is already posted in Ms Word document?  Is it there a shortcut?

 

Thanks

 


Re: Two JAWS Questions

Mario
 

Barbara, the last time I came across a website that had that "I'm not a
robot" checkbox, I had to enter some preliminary info and activate the
submit bu tton. then I had to enter some more info and activate a "get
an audio challenge", listen to it and enter the words it played, then
activate the verify button. if the verification was successful, I then
was returned to the beginning to the "I'm not a robot" checkbox, which
now I could check with a press of the spacebar and then the submit. now
if I return to that website, the checkbox should not appear because I
have been verified to not be a robot. I think this verification process
is stored on the server that stores your preliminary and intermediate
info, but am not sure if clearing the browser's cache or deleting the
cookie for that site wipes out the verification, in which you'll have to
start all over.
I think this is what Google calls their Invisible CAPTCHA project. not
all sites are using it yet.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Randy Barnett [mailto:randy@soundtique.net]
Sent: Sunday, Mar 11, 2018 8:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Two JAWS Questions

Sometimes this happens and you need to try a different browser or even
get sighted help.
On 3/10/2018 1:01 PM, Barbara wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I am a person who migrated from Window-Eyes, so these questions may be
basic.  I am using Windows 7, IE11, and JAWS 2018.

I am trying to set up a login at a website.  It has a checkbox which
says I am not a robot.  I cannot figure out how to check this.  I have
tried space bar, enter, routing the JAWS key  and pressing the left
mouse button, trying the context key and checking the file menu using
the alt key.  I do not find anything which refers to an audio option
or at least nothing is apparent.  Smile.  What to do?

Next both in IE and sometimes in Outlook 2013, JAWS appears to be
slightly off.  In IE, there is nothing on the screen when I use the
arrows.  However often, not always, if I alt-tab away and then alt-tab
back, the screen reads.  Is there a hot key to do this instead of
using the alt-tab?  On a similar vein, I will open an email which has
headings.  I use the h hotkey to move among the information. Sometimes
I get a table view instead.  If I close the email, maybe move up or
down my message list and then reopen the email, it reads fine.  Again
is there a hot key to resolve this without me performing the extra key
strokes?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Barbara


Re: 2018 Authorization Question

Jonas Voll
 

I have the same problem on about 5 pc's!
No fix from FS

Jonas Voll
Support Technician I
Envision, Inc.
2301 S Water ST
Wichita, KS 67213
O: 316-425-7141
F: 316-267-4312
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Envision: To improve the quality of life and provide inspiration for the blind and visually impaired through employment, outreach, rehabilitation, education and research.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Ruby
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2018 Authorization Question

Hi,, was there ever a resolution to this? I am having a problem like this on ly laptop and so far no resolution.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 11:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2018 Authorization Question

Hi,
Have you tried restarting JAWS?



On 10/28/17, Mark Arnold ABG <markarnold.abg@gmail.com> wrote:
Group,



I checked my upgrade status on the Freedom Scientific website and I am
entitled to an upgrade. I downloaded the appropriate 64 bit version
and installed JAWS 2018. I went through the steps to activate the
program and JAWS informed me that activation was successful. I then
migrated settings from JAWS 18. When I went to the JAWS window and
activated the help menu and then to about. To my surprise, it informs
me that JAWS is running in demonstration mode. Anyone have any ideas why this is occurring?



Thanks in advance,

Mark







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moderated Re: jfw and win scp

Steve Matzura
 

WinSCP accessibility has declined in recent versions of it and JAWS. For example, it no longer appears possible to read the dialog or menu, I don't even know which it is any more, to change drives.

On 3/11/2018 8:25 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
Hey guys,

OK, are there any linux users out there? I'd like to chat with some
of you guys off list about linux and using jfw with programs like win
scp. Would like to get your input on accessibility and all that.

Cheers,
Jed


moderated About Speech and Sounds Schemes

DaWoon Jeong <woonii@...>
 

Hello Everyone,

I want to know about "Speech And Sounds Schemes".
I have tested font size several version of windows and MS Word.
Jaws says "Font Name" but don't say "Font Size".

Does anyone know about that?

Thanks.

Dawoon


moderated Re: jfw and win scp

Vlad Dragomir
 

Hello,

I'm very curious about Linux, but also a total beginner. So I'm afraid you'll have nothing to learn from me. I wish I were more advanced though. Good luck anyway!

Vlad.


Re: Two JAWS Questions

Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Sometimes this happens and you need to try a different browser or even get sighted help.
On 3/10/2018 1:01 PM, Barbara wrote:

Hello Everyone,

 

I am a person who migrated from Window-Eyes, so these questions may be basic.  I am using Windows 7, IE11, and JAWS 2018.

 

I am trying to set up a login at a website.  It has a checkbox which says I am not a robot.  I cannot figure out how to check this.  I have tried space bar, enter, routing the JAWS key  and pressing the left mouse button, trying the context key and checking the file menu using the alt key.  I do not find anything which refers to an audio option or at least nothing is apparent.  Smile.  What to do?

 

Next both in IE and sometimes in Outlook 2013, JAWS appears to be slightly off.  In IE, there is nothing on the screen when I use the arrows.  However often, not always, if I alt-tab away and then alt-tab back, the screen reads.  Is there a hot key to do this instead of using the alt-tab?  On a similar vein, I will open an email which has headings.  I use the h hotkey to move among the information.  Sometimes I get a table view instead.  If I close the email, maybe move up or down my message list and then reopen the email, it reads fine.  Again is there a hot key to resolve this without me performing the extra key strokes?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Barbara


-- 
Sincerely: Randy Barnett
Owner of Soundtique.
Grants Pass, Or. 


moderated jfw and win scp

Jed Barton <jedbarton@...>
 

Hey guys,

OK, are there any linux users out there? I'd like to chat with some
of you guys off list about linux and using jfw with programs like win
scp. Would like to get your input on accessibility and all that.

Cheers,
Jed


Re: 2018 Authorization Question

Pat Seed
 

Hi Jim,
First I went through the registration properly, and then I made the speech adjustments that I wanted, and made sure that everything was saved. Then I restarted the computer, and JAWS came up properly.
I wonder if that whole settings thing that people have been talking about is causing problems with the proper JAWS registration.
Right now, my computer comes up showing the (settings) windows, and it wants me to choose a setting.
Of course, I do not want to do that.
I am not able to get out of that window properly. I am not able to use (alt F4) properly.
I have to use (alt F) and then arrow up to (exit).
I hope that all this stuff gets sorted out with the next JAWS update.
Let us know what you get.
If what I suggested does not solve the problem, and you do solve it, let us know what you did. Thanks.
Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat
(807) 473-0909

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Ruby" <jim@v-community.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: 2018 Authorization Question


Hi,, was there ever a resolution to this? I am having a problem like this on ly laptop and so far no resolution.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 11:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2018 Authorization Question

Hi,
Have you tried restarting JAWS?



On 10/28/17, Mark Arnold ABG <markarnold.abg@gmail.com> wrote:
Group,



I checked my upgrade status on the Freedom Scientific website and I am
entitled to an upgrade. I downloaded the appropriate 64 bit version
and installed JAWS 2018. I went through the steps to activate the
program and JAWS informed me that activation was successful. I then
migrated settings from JAWS 18. When I went to the JAWS window and
activated the help menu and then to about. To my surprise, it informs
me that JAWS is running in demonstration mode. Anyone have any ideas why this is occurring?



Thanks in advance,

Mark






Re: 2018 Authorization Question

Jim Ruby <jim@...>
 

Hi,, was there ever a resolution to this? I am having a problem like this on ly laptop and so far no resolution.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 11:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: 2018 Authorization Question

Hi,
Have you tried restarting JAWS?



On 10/28/17, Mark Arnold ABG <markarnold.abg@gmail.com> wrote:
Group,



I checked my upgrade status on the Freedom Scientific website and I am
entitled to an upgrade. I downloaded the appropriate 64 bit version
and installed JAWS 2018. I went through the steps to activate the
program and JAWS informed me that activation was successful. I then
migrated settings from JAWS 18. When I went to the JAWS window and
activated the help menu and then to about. To my surprise, it informs
me that JAWS is running in demonstration mode. Anyone have any ideas why this is occurring?



Thanks in advance,

Mark


Two JAWS Questions

Barbara <batterseye@...>
 

Hello Everyone,

 

I am a person who migrated from Window-Eyes, so these questions may be basic.  I am using Windows 7, IE11, and JAWS 2018.

 

I am trying to set up a login at a website.  It has a checkbox which says I am not a robot.  I cannot figure out how to check this.  I have tried space bar, enter, routing the JAWS key  and pressing the left mouse button, trying the context key and checking the file menu using the alt key.  I do not find anything which refers to an audio option or at least nothing is apparent.  Smile.  What to do?

 

Next both in IE and sometimes in Outlook 2013, JAWS appears to be slightly off.  In IE, there is nothing on the screen when I use the arrows.  However often, not always, if I alt-tab away and then alt-tab back, the screen reads.  Is there a hot key to do this instead of using the alt-tab?  On a similar vein, I will open an email which has headings.  I use the h hotkey to move among the information.  Sometimes I get a table view instead.  If I close the email, maybe move up or down my message list and then reopen the email, it reads fine.  Again is there a hot key to resolve this without me performing the extra key strokes?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

Barbara


Re: Amazon echo

James Bentley
 

Here you go.
 
 
 
 

From: Val Paul
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: Amazon echo
 
Hi James!
Could you send me the link to subscribe to this group as I didn't take a
note of it wondering if it was genuine.

Val.




Re: Amazon echo

Val Paul
 

Hi James!
Could you send me the link to subscribe to this group as I didn't take a
note of it wondering if it was genuine.

Val.


Re: Amazon echo

James Bentley
 

This is a legitimate group for the Echo devices.  And it’s a very good group. 
 
James B
 
 
 

From: Val Paul
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 6:59 AM
Subject: Amazon echo
 
Don't think this is the correct list I should be asking, but I was on google
searching for a list for the echo, and google came up with a list at the
following address:
Mainsubscribe@echoing.groups.io Is there such a list?

Val.






Amazon echo

Val Paul
 

Don't think this is the correct list I should be asking, but I was on google
searching for a list for the echo, and google came up with a list at the
following address:
Mainsubscribe@echoing.groups.io Is there such a list?

Val.


outlook

Val Paul
 

Hi everyon!
When I go to the delete folder some of the messages have gone into the
importat folder, which means I've got to delete messages from one, then, go
to the other and delete the messages from the next one.
Is there any way I can get all the messages to go into the delete folder?
By the way, using outlook 2016.

Val.e


Text saying blank in Outlook and word with Jaws 2018

James Malone
 

Hello all, I have a client that has office 2016  365 on his system.

He also is doing a Jaws repair on his system, but we are finding out that when opening a word document Jaws says nothing.

Has anyone experienced this issue, and if so, what did you do to fix the problem?

This problem happens on Outlook as well.

Thanks.

Best:

James


Re: Connecting Braille-Edge 40 With Screen Readers and iDevices

Peter Donahue
 

Hello Everyone,

 

                Glad we're finally getting somewhere with this issue. We're getting lots of advice, advice we should have gotten from Hims when we called them yesterday. I talked to someone with VFO who indicated that Hims has a habbit of ping-ponging their customers around when it comes to technical issues. Maybe it would be right to do so since we're trying to get the Braille-Edge to work with JFW but such advice coming directly from Hims and their own tech support would have been far better and more business-like. Thanks again for the help,.

 

Peter Donahue

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Sandoval
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 12:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Connecting Braille-Edge 40 With Screen Readers and iDevices

 

Peter,

 

First I’m assuming that you are trying to connect it via USB?

If so make sure that the switch on the left side of the Edge is forward, or switched away from the braille B. The other piece of advice is that you always want the Edge in terminal mode before activating Jaws. Jaws will not recognize the Edge if connected when Jaws is already loaded. This is an annoying quirk with Jaws.

 

As for pairing it to her iPhone, start by switching the switch on the left side toward the braille B, or toward the back of the device. Again make sure the Edge is in Terminal Mode. Next, go to Settings, General, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Braille, and double tap on the Edge in this list. You will be prompted for a pairing code on the phone, enter 0000(that’s four zeros) and double tap Pair in the upper right corner. I advise that she uses the phone with a Bluetooth connection and USB connection for the computer.

 

I hope this helps, I wrote this in a hurry, but I wanted to assist you.

 

Paul Sandoval

Blind Tech Training

Expanding Possibilities Using Technology

720-620-8007

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 10:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: braille@...; napub@...; peel-the-apple@groups.io
Subject: Connecting Braille-Edge 40 With Screen Readers and iDevices

 

Good morning everyone,

 

                My wife Mary began working from home in January. Until she's been using her Pack Mate for reading book files to be proofread. She's a Braille Proofreader with the Education Service Center Region 20. Thanks to our networking business we bought a Braille-Edge 40 from Hims Inc. and paid cash on the nail for it along with the executive case. When the deal was done we spent over $3000.00. Thanks again to our networking business we were able to skip the rehab line. Hims has been paid in full for this device and the executive case.

 

                In order to do her work more efficiently when she works here she wants to connect the Braille-Edge 40 to her laptop in order to read files directly from that computer.

 

                Yesterday we tried connecting the Braille-Edge 40 to the laptop and interface it with Jaws for Windows 2018. First we're not sure if the Braille-Edge driver is included in JFW 2018 or if we still need to install the driver on the CD that shipped with the unit.

 

                First we selected the "Braille-Edge" driver in Braille Options in JFW and added it to the list of Braille Displays and made the Braille-Edte the default Braille display. At no time did JFW prompt us to install the Braille-Edge driver leading us to believe that the driver shipped with Jaws 2018. We also restarted Jaws after adding the Braille-Edge so these settings would take effect as directed.

 

                After this process was completed Mary turned on the Braille-Edge 40 and attempted to put it into "Terminal Mode." She was able to select terminal mode but could not activate it using the commands given in the Braille-Edge 40 manual. We're not sure if the Braille-Edge 40 should have been turned on before or after JFW was restarted so Jaws would recognize it so Mary could begin reading her documents directly from the laptop.

 

                We attempted to contact both VFO and Hims for assistance with resolving this issue. VFO kept us on hold for ages and we gave up in disgust. When Mary tried calling Hims all she got was a recorded message. We have already had negative tech support experiences with Hims. Mary had some other questions. Instead of receiving a callback all she got from them was an E-Mail message giving her the steps to address the issue in question. At least VFO keeps their support lines manned with live agents who can be very helpful when you can connect with them. Considering what we spent with Hims wee expect the same level of service from any assistive technology company we do business with.

 

                Since Hims has an office in Austin and San Antonio is only a 2-hour drive from Austin there should be no problem for them to send someone down here to help us resolve this issue particularly since it's an employment-related matter. The only Braille-Edge user we know lives in Dallas. If there are Braille-Edge users in the San Antonio area that can assist us please contact us so Mary can have this situation resolved before she starts work when her spring break is over. Here is our contact information:

 

Peter and Mary Donahue:

Phone: (210) 826-9579

E-Mail:

Mary: braille@...

Peter: pdonahue2@...

 

                Here is where you Peel the Apple List members also come in. We need to pare the Braille-Edge 40 with our iDevices. We each have the iPhone 6+ and an iPad Air 2. If someone could tell us how to properly pair the Braille-Edge 40 with our iDevices that will be very helpful. It wouldn't hurt to have directions on how to pair it with the Mac should we decide to buy a Mac to avoid a situation like this in the future.

 

                We thought that the inability to reach tech support might have been due to their being at CSUN as that conference occurs in March. Further investigation indicated that CSUN doesn't begin until later this month. Hims should have never left itself volnuurable to being called out on the Internet. Having their phones manned with live tech support would have insured that this message would never have been posted to these lists particularly since we paid cash for the Braille-Edge 40 and the executive case. Had Mary been able to reach someone to help us resolve these issues over the phone or if necessary anon-site visit from Hims this message wouldn't be here today. When these issues are resolved we'll be fixed too. Thanks for reading. Here's hoping someone particularly someone from Hims will contact us to help us out. All the best.

 

Peter Donahue

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 10:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Dodos are actually diricals, so ...

 

Yes, this is quite off topic and out of the perameters of this list.  Why waste our time with it?

 

Don

 

From: Ashleigh Piccinino

Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 6:25 AM

Subject: Dodos are actually diricals, so ...

 

Hello,

     This is totally off topic, but the dodo bird is actually something called a diricawl. Of course, that last bird name might be spelled incorrectly, but look it up when you can/FBWFT. Look this up as well/good book but can’t say any more for fear of being kicked off list. My thread ends here!

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of John Gurd via Groups.Io <j.gurd@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 3:29:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password manager programs that work with jfw

 

So is it still possible to buy version 4  of 1Password or has it gone the way of the Dodo?

John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: 08 March 2018 14:29
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password manager programs that work with jfw

Quick and easy answer: you can't, because it doesn't. Version 4 is not cloud-based, which is why I got it. The more I can stay out of the proverbial cloud, the better. That's the reason why version 6 is subscription-based. You're paying that monthly fee for somebody to maintain your password vault on somebody else's server, which, in my unhumble opinion, is a compromise. I don't like, never have liked, the idea that cloud-based backup means you give your data to somebody else to hold for you, somebody you don't know and think you should trust just because they say you should. Take this to its ultimate extreme, and you'd be right in saying that I don't like banks either. Having worked for two for twenty-six years, what goes on behind the teller's window could fill a book. Yes, they pay you for the privilege of parking your money there, but the things for which that money is used, and how the return on your loan of that money to the bank, called and investment, is gotten, well, it'd curl your hair. It sure curled mine! So keep your data out of the cloud as much as you can. Back up your password vault and give it to a relative to hold, or someone else whom you can really trust, someone who won't charge you for the service.


On 3/7/2018 9:04 AM, John Gurd via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hi Steve
> I already use 1Password on IOS and like it. But when I went to get it for Windows the only paid version I can find is a subscription version where there is a monthly charge paid annually. I am happy to pay, but only once. Where do I get the version without the extra features, and can it still sync with my IOS version using iCloud?
>
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve
> Matzura
> Sent: 07 March 2018 13:09
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: password manager programs that work with jfw
>
> No, it is not free. There are two versions,.Verion 4 keeps your passwords in a  encrypted file locally. Version 6 is cloud-based.
>
>
> In 1Password, when a appsword is entered on a Website, 1Password
> displayws a dialg asking whether it should save that password. If
> that's what you want, you enter the master unlock password, then
> 1Password prompts you with a name under which to save the Web
> password. This name is usually the address of the Website for which
> the password is required. You can accept the default, or type any name
> you wish, then press ENTER. The way you get 1Password to enter
> passwords for you is by pressing CTRL plus BACKSLASH. 1Password
> prompts for the master unlock password, you enter it, and 1Password does the rest.
>
>
> On 3/7/2018 12:07 AM, Jed Barton wrote:
>> Hey guys.
>> OK, so with 1 password, say i have something bookmarked in favorites,
>> i go to that web page, how do i save it in 1password?  I'm assuming
>> it's a free program?
>> The accessibility pretty good?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jed
>>
>> On 3/6/18, Steve Matzura <number6@...> wrote:
>>> 1Password.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/6/2018 12:05 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
>>>> Hey guys,
>>>> Any good programs out there for managing passwords with jfw? We've
>>>> all delt with this.  You go to a website and they make you put in a
>>>> crazy password, (not a bad thing) but then you for get.  Sound familiar?
>>>> Any good ideas would be welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>






Re: Dodos are actually digicams, so ...

David & his pack of dogs
 

This message was found in my spam folder.  I thought it was something entirely different. Don and al, if you want a fire to go out, don’t put gas on it. 

 

David & his pack of dogs. Benny, Sheena both no longer with us, Champ, Kendra, Richie, and Carmine.

From The Diamond Touch dog Rehabilitation Centre. Privacy Disclaimer This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary, and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited.

 

1-844-21PUPPY   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: March 9, 2018 8:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Dodos are actually diricals, so ...

 

Yes, this is quite off topic and out of the perameters of this list.  Why waste our time with it?

 

Don

 

From: Ashleigh Piccinino

Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 6:25 AM

Subject: Dodos are actually diricals, so ...

 

Hello,

     This is totally off topic, but the dodo bird is actually something called a diricawl. Of course, that last bird name might be spelled incorrectly, but look it up when you can/FBWFT. Look this up as well/good book but can’t say any more for fear of being kicked off list. My thread ends here!

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of John Gurd via Groups.Io <j.gurd@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 3:29:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password manager programs that work with jfw

 

So is it still possible to buy version 4  of 1Password or has it gone the way of the Dodo?

John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: 08 March 2018 14:29
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password manager programs that work with jfw

Quick and easy answer: you can't, because it doesn't. Version 4 is not cloud-based, which is why I got it. The more I can stay out of the proverbial cloud, the better. That's the reason why version 6 is subscription-based. You're paying that monthly fee for somebody to maintain your password vault on somebody else's server, which, in my unhumble opinion, is a compromise. I don't like, never have liked, the idea that cloud-based backup means you give your data to somebody else to hold for you, somebody you don't know and think you should trust just because they say you should. Take this to its ultimate extreme, and you'd be right in saying that I don't like banks either. Having worked for two for twenty-six years, what goes on behind the teller's window could fill a book. Yes, they pay you for the privilege of parking your money there, but the things for which that money is used, and how the return on your loan of that money to the bank, called and investment, is gotten, well, it'd curl your hair. It sure curled mine! So keep your data out of the cloud as much as you can. Back up your password vault and give it to a relative to hold, or someone else whom you can really trust, someone who won't charge you for the service.


On 3/7/2018 9:04 AM, John Gurd via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hi Steve
> I already use 1Password on IOS and like it. But when I went to get it for Windows the only paid version I can find is a subscription version where there is a monthly charge paid annually. I am happy to pay, but only once. Where do I get the version without the extra features, and can it still sync with my IOS version using iCloud?
>
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve
> Matzura
> Sent: 07 March 2018 13:09
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: password manager programs that work with jfw
>
> No, it is not free. There are two versions,.Verion 4 keeps your passwords in a  encrypted file locally. Version 6 is cloud-based.
>
>
> In 1Password, when a appsword is entered on a Website, 1Password
> displayws a dialg asking whether it should save that password. If
> that's what you want, you enter the master unlock password, then
> 1Password prompts you with a name under which to save the Web
> password. This name is usually the address of the Website for which
> the password is required. You can accept the default, or type any name
> you wish, then press ENTER. The way you get 1Password to enter
> passwords for you is by pressing CTRL plus BACKSLASH. 1Password
> prompts for the master unlock password, you enter it, and 1Password does the rest.
>
>
> On 3/7/2018 12:07 AM, Jed Barton wrote:
>> Hey guys.
>> OK, so with 1 password, say i have something bookmarked in favorites,
>> i go to that web page, how do i save it in 1password?  I'm assuming
>> it's a free program?
>> The accessibility pretty good?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jed
>>
>> On 3/6/18, Steve Matzura <number6@...> wrote:
>>> 1Password.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/6/2018 12:05 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
>>>> Hey guys,
>>>> Any good programs out there for managing passwords with jfw? We've
>>>> all delt with this.  You go to a website and they make you put in a
>>>> crazy password, (not a bad thing) but then you for get.  Sound familiar?
>>>> Any good ideas would be welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>








Re: Connecting Braille-Edge 40 With Screen Readers and iDevices

Paul Sandoval
 

Peter,

 

First I’m assuming that you are trying to connect it via USB?

If so make sure that the switch on the left side of the Edge is forward, or switched away from the braille B. The other piece of advice is that you always want the Edge in terminal mode before activating Jaws. Jaws will not recognize the Edge if connected when Jaws is already loaded. This is an annoying quirk with Jaws.

 

As for pairing it to her iPhone, start by switching the switch on the left side toward the braille B, or toward the back of the device. Again make sure the Edge is in Terminal Mode. Next, go to Settings, General, Accessibility, VoiceOver, Braille, and double tap on the Edge in this list. You will be prompted for a pairing code on the phone, enter 0000(that’s four zeros) and double tap Pair in the upper right corner. I advise that she uses the phone with a Bluetooth connection and USB connection for the computer.

 

I hope this helps, I wrote this in a hurry, but I wanted to assist you.

 

Paul Sandoval

Blind Tech Training

Expanding Possibilities Using Technology

720-620-8007

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 10:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: braille@...; napub@...; peel-the-apple@groups.io
Subject: Connecting Braille-Edge 40 With Screen Readers and iDevices

 

Good morning everyone,

 

                My wife Mary began working from home in January. Until she's been using her Pack Mate for reading book files to be proofread. She's a Braille Proofreader with the Education Service Center Region 20. Thanks to our networking business we bought a Braille-Edge 40 from Hims Inc. and paid cash on the nail for it along with the executive case. When the deal was done we spent over $3000.00. Thanks again to our networking business we were able to skip the rehab line. Hims has been paid in full for this device and the executive case.

 

                In order to do her work more efficiently when she works here she wants to connect the Braille-Edge 40 to her laptop in order to read files directly from that computer.

 

                Yesterday we tried connecting the Braille-Edge 40 to the laptop and interface it with Jaws for Windows 2018. First we're not sure if the Braille-Edge driver is included in JFW 2018 or if we still need to install the driver on the CD that shipped with the unit.

 

                First we selected the "Braille-Edge" driver in Braille Options in JFW and added it to the list of Braille Displays and made the Braille-Edte the default Braille display. At no time did JFW prompt us to install the Braille-Edge driver leading us to believe that the driver shipped with Jaws 2018. We also restarted Jaws after adding the Braille-Edge so these settings would take effect as directed.

 

                After this process was completed Mary turned on the Braille-Edge 40 and attempted to put it into "Terminal Mode." She was able to select terminal mode but could not activate it using the commands given in the Braille-Edge 40 manual. We're not sure if the Braille-Edge 40 should have been turned on before or after JFW was restarted so Jaws would recognize it so Mary could begin reading her documents directly from the laptop.

 

                We attempted to contact both VFO and Hims for assistance with resolving this issue. VFO kept us on hold for ages and we gave up in disgust. When Mary tried calling Hims all she got was a recorded message. We have already had negative tech support experiences with Hims. Mary had some other questions. Instead of receiving a callback all she got from them was an E-Mail message giving her the steps to address the issue in question. At least VFO keeps their support lines manned with live agents who can be very helpful when you can connect with them. Considering what we spent with Hims wee expect the same level of service from any assistive technology company we do business with.

 

                Since Hims has an office in Austin and San Antonio is only a 2-hour drive from Austin there should be no problem for them to send someone down here to help us resolve this issue particularly since it's an employment-related matter. The only Braille-Edge user we know lives in Dallas. If there are Braille-Edge users in the San Antonio area that can assist us please contact us so Mary can have this situation resolved before she starts work when her spring break is over. Here is our contact information:

 

Peter and Mary Donahue:

Phone: (210) 826-9579

E-Mail:

Mary: braille@...

Peter: pdonahue2@...

 

                Here is where you Peel the Apple List members also come in. We need to pare the Braille-Edge 40 with our iDevices. We each have the iPhone 6+ and an iPad Air 2. If someone could tell us how to properly pair the Braille-Edge 40 with our iDevices that will be very helpful. It wouldn't hurt to have directions on how to pair it with the Mac should we decide to buy a Mac to avoid a situation like this in the future.

 

                We thought that the inability to reach tech support might have been due to their being at CSUN as that conference occurs in March. Further investigation indicated that CSUN doesn't begin until later this month. Hims should have never left itself volnuurable to being called out on the Internet. Having their phones manned with live tech support would have insured that this message would never have been posted to these lists particularly since we paid cash for the Braille-Edge 40 and the executive case. Had Mary been able to reach someone to help us resolve these issues over the phone or if necessary anon-site visit from Hims this message wouldn't be here today. When these issues are resolved we'll be fixed too. Thanks for reading. Here's hoping someone particularly someone from Hims will contact us to help us out. All the best.

 

Peter Donahue

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 10:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Dodos are actually diricals, so ...

 

Yes, this is quite off topic and out of the perameters of this list.  Why waste our time with it?

 

Don

 

From: Ashleigh Piccinino

Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 6:25 AM

Subject: Dodos are actually diricals, so ...

 

Hello,

     This is totally off topic, but the dodo bird is actually something called a diricawl. Of course, that last bird name might be spelled incorrectly, but look it up when you can/FBWFT. Look this up as well/good book but can’t say any more for fear of being kicked off list. My thread ends here!

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of John Gurd via Groups.Io <j.gurd@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 3:29:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password manager programs that work with jfw

 

So is it still possible to buy version 4  of 1Password or has it gone the way of the Dodo?

John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: 08 March 2018 14:29
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password manager programs that work with jfw

Quick and easy answer: you can't, because it doesn't. Version 4 is not cloud-based, which is why I got it. The more I can stay out of the proverbial cloud, the better. That's the reason why version 6 is subscription-based. You're paying that monthly fee for somebody to maintain your password vault on somebody else's server, which, in my unhumble opinion, is a compromise. I don't like, never have liked, the idea that cloud-based backup means you give your data to somebody else to hold for you, somebody you don't know and think you should trust just because they say you should. Take this to its ultimate extreme, and you'd be right in saying that I don't like banks either. Having worked for two for twenty-six years, what goes on behind the teller's window could fill a book. Yes, they pay you for the privilege of parking your money there, but the things for which that money is used, and how the return on your loan of that money to the bank, called and investment, is gotten, well, it'd curl your hair. It sure curled mine! So keep your data out of the cloud as much as you can. Back up your password vault and give it to a relative to hold, or someone else whom you can really trust, someone who won't charge you for the service.


On 3/7/2018 9:04 AM, John Gurd via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hi Steve
> I already use 1Password on IOS and like it. But when I went to get it for Windows the only paid version I can find is a subscription version where there is a monthly charge paid annually. I am happy to pay, but only once. Where do I get the version without the extra features, and can it still sync with my IOS version using iCloud?
>
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve
> Matzura
> Sent: 07 March 2018 13:09
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: password manager programs that work with jfw
>
> No, it is not free. There are two versions,.Verion 4 keeps your passwords in a  encrypted file locally. Version 6 is cloud-based.
>
>
> In 1Password, when a appsword is entered on a Website, 1Password
> displayws a dialg asking whether it should save that password. If
> that's what you want, you enter the master unlock password, then
> 1Password prompts you with a name under which to save the Web
> password. This name is usually the address of the Website for which
> the password is required. You can accept the default, or type any name
> you wish, then press ENTER. The way you get 1Password to enter
> passwords for you is by pressing CTRL plus BACKSLASH. 1Password
> prompts for the master unlock password, you enter it, and 1Password does the rest.
>
>
> On 3/7/2018 12:07 AM, Jed Barton wrote:
>> Hey guys.
>> OK, so with 1 password, say i have something bookmarked in favorites,
>> i go to that web page, how do i save it in 1password?  I'm assuming
>> it's a free program?
>> The accessibility pretty good?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jed
>>
>> On 3/6/18, Steve Matzura <number6@...> wrote:
>>> 1Password.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/6/2018 12:05 PM, Jed Barton wrote:
>>>> Hey guys,
>>>> Any good programs out there for managing passwords with jfw? We've
>>>> all delt with this.  You go to a website and they make you put in a
>>>> crazy password, (not a bad thing) but then you for get.  Sound familiar?
>>>> Any good ideas would be welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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